Anti-Islam Dutch politician to headline Madison church event

Wednesday, May 11, 2011 at 7:29pm

A controversial Dutch politician known for his radical views on Islam is the headline speaker Thursday night at an event in Madison organized by the political-right group the Tennessee Freedom Coalition.

Geert Wilders, a Party For Freedom member of the House of Representatives in the Netherlands, is speaking Thursday at Cornerstone Church in Madison as part of an event called “A Warning to America.”

“I don’t hate Muslims,” Wilders is quoted in The Observer as saying. “I hate Islam.

“Islam is not a religion. It’s an ideology, the ideology of a retarded culture.”

Emceed by local right-wing radio personality Steve Gill, the event begins at 7 p.m. Other participants include Professor Sam Solomon, author of books such as “The Mosque Exposed,” and Bill Warner, who runs politicalislam.com.

The executive director of the Tennessee Freedom Coalition is Lou Ann Zelenik, the Murfreesboro businesswoman who lost last year to Diane Black in a heated congressional Republican primary. A Tea Party follower, Zelenik is an ardent opponent of the construction of an Islamic community center planned for Rutherford County.

Many publications overseas call Wilders –– known for his populist, firebrand style –– a potential Dutch prime minister candidate. 

According to an invitation posted on Tennessee Freedom Coalition’s website, Wilders has been “outspoken in his warnings to the West about the dangers of ‘Islamisation’ creeping across the continent.”

“Islam deprives Muslims of their freedom,” Wilders’ most recent entry on his website reads. “That is a shame, because free people are capable of great things, as history has shown. The Arab, Turkish, Iranian, Indian, Indonesian peoples have tremendous potential.

“It they were not captives of Islam, if they could liberate themselves from the yoke of Islam, if they would cease to take Muhammad as a role model and if they got rid of the evil Koran, they would be able to achieve great things which would benefit not only them but the entire world.”     

100 Comments on this post:

By: revo-lou on 5/11/11 at 8:42

Cornerstone "church"? No surprise there. If there is any church that should have it's tax exempt status revoked, it is this one.

By: pswindle on 5/11/11 at 10:25

Why isn't the church's tax exempt status already revoked? How do they get away with this? This is a church one should be concerned about. The members have to be brain-washed to believe this extreme religion.

By: Loner on 5/12/11 at 5:46

The Tennessee Freedom Coalition, like most political entities, is named after what it is trying to destroy, in this case, the target is simply "Freedom".

This Dutch bigot-preacher is probably staying in five-star hotels, dining on the finest cuisine, as he works the bigoted backwaters of the USA...whipping the slack-jawed scumbags into a rabid and righteous lather...for Jesus.

We know how Christ hated the Arabs...it's all He ever talked about, right?... that and the homosexuals.

In the thirties, German pastors were similarly fanning the flames of anti-Semitism; looks like the modern Dutch are emulating their Nazi teachers. Take out "Jew", and substitute, "Muslim", and the hate speech is nearly identical to that which resulted in the Holocaust. Same crap, new Christian wrapper.

I wonder, are hoods & sheets required wearing, when the Dutch hate-monger addresses the Tennessee crowds....or is a coonskin cap acceptable?

By: budlight on 5/12/11 at 5:55

Yeah, Loner, I guess those Dutch are some real haters. Seems to me, you, Swindle and others are the haters. Where is your tolerance? You seem to always bring up the clan; is that because you are a member or what?

You don't have a clue who or what Christ talked about. You purport to be a bible scholar when all you are is a doubting thomas. So the Dutchman is a bigot? You seem to label everyone who does not see your point of view as a bigot. Sounds fishey to me.

I hope that when the day of reckoning comes, I'm in the audience when you have to explain all your hatred towards Christians and more importantly your hatred towards God and Christ. You say you do not need prayer; I disagree with you. Lord have mercy.

By: Loner on 5/12/11 at 5:59

The executive director of the Tennessee Freedom Coalition is Lou Ann Zelenik, a Muslim-hating, Jesus-loving, Murfreesboro businesswoman, can someone please list her businesses, so that decent Americans can boycott them? Thanks.

By: budlight on 5/12/11 at 6:08

Can someone please list anything that Loner has to do with, so decent Americans can boycott them? Thanks.

And can someone please get Loner's hate mongering banned permanently from CP so that the ears and eyes and hearts of decent people can be spared from his spewing his brand of anti-Christian hatred? Please

Loner, go back to bed. You always wake up on the wrong side of life - the hate filled side is getting boring. You are never happy and never positive and never say a good thing about anyone but your Muslim friends. Go back to bed, Loner.

By: Loner on 5/12/11 at 6:17

Thank you, for your concern, Budlight; but I never claimed to be a "Bible Scholar" and I never said that I hated God and Christ. We all need prayer, Bud, the problem is, God cannot grant ever prayer, every time...the competing interests are beyond our ability to fathom.

Every militant thinks he has God on his side; every manifesto author thinks so too. The Nazis who ran the gas chambers and ovens thought that they too were doing the Lord's work. Even the Confederate army had its chaplains.

"Yeah, Loner, I guess those Dutch are some real haters."

The Dutch colonies in Africa and the new world were scenes of unspeakable acts of human depravity, Budlight...as colonial masters, the Dutch were sometimes among the cruelest and most exploitative.

The Dutch were mostly happy to send their Jewish citizens to the camps during the Holocaust. I'm sure there were exceptions to the rule, but generally, the Dutch complied with Hitler's wishes...Belgium, Luxembourg & the Netherlands - they don't call them "the low countries", for nothing.

And they stick their fingers into dikes.....what more can I say?

By: Loner on 5/12/11 at 6:33

Bud, decent folks have little tolerance for intolerance. They go with: Live and let live...different strokes....to each his/her own.... "Judge not, lest ye be judged"....etc.

If we treat our neighbors, even our enemies, as we would like to be treated, things will work out fine....that's the Christian theory, as I understand it.

Blowing a corner off of Bin Laden's skull, as he stood there unarmed and defeated, was not what Jesus had in mind, IMO.... but the so-called Christians danced in the streets when they heard the bloody news....they just do not get Christ's message....they are Christian heretics?

By: Loner on 5/12/11 at 6:43

Bud, they banned me once before...maybe you can get the Editors to repeat the shame; but I doubt it - the NCP got rid of the knuckleheads who pulled off that purge... a guy named Clint Brewer was running the NCP at the time...they sacked his sorry @ss, and re-instated the banned posters. Ben Dover, Nemo and others were all banned too.

You can give it a shot...just email them with your complaint....they'll find it entertaining, if nothing else. The City Paper is one of the most open and tolerant sites out there....for now, anyway.

By: marinedd on 5/12/11 at 7:02

As I understand----Cornerstone Church is being use for the meeting because it can seat a large audience. Maybe, maybe just maybe, some of you should attend church there sometime like I have. You might just feel the True Love in the church.

I lived in a muslem country for two years where most of the Christians had been killed 30 years before and the Christians that the government / muslems could still find were still being arrested and would then disappear. So much for a loving religion.

God Bless America and all of us

By: revo-lou on 5/12/11 at 7:16

marinedd - GET HELP.

By: marinedd on 5/12/11 at 7:22

Thank you revo-lou for your kind reply------I have Jesus for my help and you have?

By: LizzyD on 5/12/11 at 7:23

You GO, Loner!

The spewing of disinformation. irrational hatred, and lies will be no worse from the Dutchman than it is from that business's "owner" on a weekly basis. What a con artist!

By: BenDover on 5/12/11 at 7:24

Islam is a political movement. If we don't wake up to it we risk being over-run like Western Europe and pilloried on the tip of our democratic values as western culture is out bred and immigrated out of existence.

By: revo-lou on 5/12/11 at 7:27

{marinedd on 5/12/11 at 8:22
Thank you revo-lou for your kind reply------I have Jesus for my help and you have?}

Reality.

By: marinedd on 5/12/11 at 7:32

I understand your pain revo-lou I will pray for you Just remember Jesus love You

By: feefifofum on 5/12/11 at 7:37

I will be there. Islam is an evil religion, period.

The City Paper touched all of the hot points. "Right Wing". "Tea Party". Love to get those reference points in there. Of course, if it were abortion rights and groups were meeting, they would write that the groups were "Left Wing" and "Radical". Correct? Yeah, right.

For a religion that SO subjugates women, applies capital punishment/dismemberment, and severely restricts freedom of all kinds, its the liberals who viciously attack those speak against it. But Jesus? Christians? They pile on and rip them apart.

Liberalism is indeed a form of mental illness.

By: Funditto on 5/12/11 at 7:40

Whoa - I see ya'll are still going at it. The Cicada's must have flown into bl's ears or something as she seems particular agitated.

By: revo-lou on 5/12/11 at 7:41

{marinedd on 5/12/11 at 8:32
I understand your pain revo-lou I will pray for you Just remember Jesus love You}

What would your prayer's be, since you do not know me? Just remember, it is impolite to speak for others.

By: revo-lou on 5/12/11 at 7:43

{feefifofum on 5/12/11 at 8:37
I will be there. Islam is an evil religion, period.

The City Paper touched...apart.

Liberalism is indeed a form of mental illness.}

Cornerstone "followers" are indeed "drunkards of the religous kind". But, they are sure fun to toy with.

By: morpheus120 on 5/12/11 at 7:46

What a bunch of bed-wetting cowards conservatives are.

Maybe its time people wake up and smell the coffee:

The threat to world peace and stability isn't Islam. It isn't Christianity. It isn't even athiesm.

It's CONSERVATIVISM of all creeds and colors. The one thing that Lou Ann Zelenik, Steve Gill, and Osama Bin Laden have in common is hatred for people who aren't like them and who don't believe in their holy book. THAT's the threat to all the free peoples of the world.

It's time to recognize who the real enemy to America is and its about time progressives start organizing across the world to stamp these bigoted, ignorant, deviants no matter which flag they salute or which God they pray to.

By: Loner on 5/12/11 at 7:47

Marinedd? When I served, US Army 67-69, dd=dishonorable discharge....just sayin'.

Again, thank you Lizzy D. You may like my blog:
http://new-york-loner.livejournal.com/

Ben, I'm having trouble visualizing, "pilloried on the tip of our democratic values"...perhaps "impaled" would be a better choice, compared with "pilloried".

Hillary was pilloried.

I see the fanatical Mohammadan armies akin to the evil minions commanded by Vlad, the Impaler...not as Puritans with their public pillories. Demonization should be consistent, right?

By: house_of_pain on 5/12/11 at 7:47

This is what happens when people can't keep their religious BS to themselves.
*sigh*

By: BenDover on 5/12/11 at 7:47

It's not mental illness. It's just critical theory gone wild. It's more important to attack and destroy the cultural norms of our society than it is to consider what they will likely be replaced by. So we end up with some very interesting bedfellows in Islam and Western Liberalism. Oh well... first against the wall and all that; but when you're dealing with a philosophy of moral relativism that morphs into whatever suits oneself and that sees our social and cultural heritage as its enemy... well that's a moving target that's hard pin down.

By: BenDover on 5/12/11 at 7:50

Yeah... I even looked it up but I kept pilloried because it sounded good, loner. I started to say 'with the tip' but it didn't read right. You are correct though.

By: Loner on 5/12/11 at 8:00

Amen, Morpheus.

Question: Would you also classify the Israeli "settlers" as being "bigoted, ignorant, deviants"? Their faith-based, race-based brand of apartheid in the occupied territories is certainly "conservative" in nature. The Jewish Jim Crow, for Arab Israelis in Israel proper is also "conservative" in nature.

Most Americans believe in a double standard for the Israelis, with respect to these human and civil rights issues....do you grant the Jewish state special dispensation on these moral and legal matters?

By: Community-carl-... on 5/12/11 at 8:01

Cornerstone Church has an extremely charismatic minister, Maury Davis, who has grown his church (and personal wealth) by telling the masses what they want to hear and fanning the flames of mass hysteria. The leadership of this church seems to thrive on controversy and media attention, and has obvious lack of respect and tolerance for anyone who dares have an opinion or viewpoint differing from theirs. To me, it seems strangely similar to a cult. Sure, Maury Davis has a huge following, but just because a large number of people are engaging in an activity doesn't necessarily mean that it is right or appropriate.

In the Bible, Jesus consistantly taught love and tolerance, not hatred and intolerance.

I think Maury Davis needs to concentrate on following the Three Year Lectionary rather than stirring up hatred by focusing on his pet projects and political agendas.
.....But then, the people might not come. Hmmmmmm.........what does this say about his followers? And what does this say about him? I suspect a lot of people like to avoid self examination and accountability by directing their focus toward others' weaknesses and errors rather than their own.

We are all weak and lacking. We are born into a sinful world. But for God's Grace, we would all be lost forever. Thanks Be To God for loving us all in spite of our human failings.

By: Loner on 5/12/11 at 8:05

Thank you, Ben, how's this: "Pilloried by our own legal system and flagellated with the tips of our own democratic values"?

By: Ingleweird on 5/12/11 at 8:10

Feefifofum: I smell the blood of a foolish man.

Budlight: you wouldn't understand the definitions of "tolerance" or "hate," if they were crucified, buried in a cave, and reincarnated on the 3rd day.

To paraphrase BenDover:
Christianity is a political movement. If we don't wake up to it, we risk being over-run like Western Europe and pilloried on the tip of our democratic values as western culture is out bred and immigrated out of existence.

Jesus died for somebody's sins, but not mine. -Patti Smith

By: Radix on 5/12/11 at 8:10

LOL at the complete irony and hypocrisy on here as usual. People on here trashing Christianity and this church in Madison, why? Because they are supposedly trashing Islam? How are you any better if you're doing the same thing you accuse this church of? Interesting. Its 'extreme religion' to host an event on the perils of radical islam?

This article was clearly written to be inflammatory, and worked judging by Loners posts. Does this country not deal with a threat from radical Islam? Holland dealt with this threat quite a bit.

And Loner you are one of the most bigoted and intolerant posters here. And since you accuse everyone else of that, that also makes you a hypocrite.

By: budlight on 5/12/11 at 8:13

revo-lou on 5/12/11 at 8:27
{marinedd on 5/12/11 at 8:22
Thank you revo-lou for your kind reply------I have Jesus for my help and you have?}

Reality.

Break 1-9, can I get a reality check? Revo's out there driving around and his life is a wreck. Revo, reality is Jesus. You have surely got to stop being so mean. Love is the way to go.

Community Carl- you are correct. Keep up the good news.

By: budlight on 5/12/11 at 8:14

By: Ingleweird on 5/12/11 at 9:10
Feefifofum: I smell the blood of a foolish man.

Budlight: you wouldn't understand the definitions of "tolerance" or "hate," if they were crucified, buried in a cave, and reincarnated on the 3rd day.

To paraphrase BenDover:

And you are the resident expert, Ingleweird! At least I hear that's what you think.

By: Radix on 5/12/11 at 8:16

Ingleweird, I know your definition of 'tolerance' means putting up with anything you support. And your definition of hate is what people do when they disagree with YOU.

Note how you slam Christianity and BudLight in the same post you talk about tolerance? QED. The opposite of hate is love. Which one are you doing?

By: Radix on 5/12/11 at 8:20

Community Carl said: "...has obvious lack of respect and tolerance for anyone who dares have an opinion or viewpoint differing from theirs. To me, it seems strangely similar to a cult. "

So Loner and Ingleweird must be a cult too? LOL

By: budlight on 5/12/11 at 8:20

Loner, I will tell you one more time how I really "feel" about Ben's death at the hand of Navy Seals:

"I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." --Martin Luther King Jr.

Martin Luther King, Jr. was a true Christian. Does that bother you haters? If so, why?

By: revo-lou on 5/12/11 at 8:21

Sorry radix, it is you that miss the irony/hypocrisy of a church (and I use that term loosely) bringing in a speaker to tout hate and anger towards another group. I am in no way defending Islam/Muslims with my comments, but I am calling this “misguided” leader and his gullible followers out on the “message of love” that they are putting forth.

By: Loner on 5/12/11 at 8:22

A suggestion for Cornerstone Church:

Host a new kind of Pig-Roast, a pork feast in which the pig is roasted on a fire built from burning Korans...invite Pastor Terry Jones to the spiritual shin-dig...the "pig" could be a wild boar, primitively killed by Ted Nugent....hire some well-mannered Negros to do the cooking, so as not to look like a hoe-down for white supremacists....you'll be pulling pork for Christ....and cashing in on the hunger for hate.

By: revo-lou on 5/12/11 at 8:23

budlite, you are a lost little soul, but, rest in the comfort that there are many like you. The saddest part is that you know that you would not be the person one should be, without the "drug" you use.

By: Radix on 5/12/11 at 8:27

Lou, I don't miss it at all. I haven't seen this guy speak, but let's assume he is intolerant of good Muslims, he is only a hypocrite if he labels other people of intolerance at the same time.

You on the other hand are being intolerant of this church, and the speaker, while accusing him of the same thing. That is hypocrisy. BTW, have you heard the guy speak? If he is speaking on fact and experience, and warning of the perils of radical Islam, then you have falsely accused him, in addition to being a hypocrite.

By: Radix on 5/12/11 at 8:28

"By: revo-lou on 5/12/11 at 9:23
budlite, you are a lost little soul, but, rest in the comfort that there are many like you. The saddest part is that you know that you would not be the person one should be, without the "drug" you use."

How tolerant and loving Lou!!!

By: Loner on 5/12/11 at 8:32

Radix raves: "And Loner you are one of the most bigoted and intolerant posters here. And since you accuse everyone else of that, that also makes you a hypocrite."

I am intolerant of intolerance, Radix, in that sense, yes, I am intolerant...but, I do not accuse "everyone else" of being intolerant, just those who are unjustifiably intolerant.

I believe that we all have a right to express our opinions, but we should be prepared to defend them, if we express them.

The current tsunami of Islam-bashing that has swept across this nation has stripped away the veneer of our American values - especially our sense of fair play and tolerance.

All this hate is attributable to our entanglement with foreign theocracies, in direct contravention of what the Founders had in mind.

Holy Wars Suck.

By: revo-lou on 5/12/11 at 8:34

radi, you seem to be quite confused about the word tolerant. Maybe you should get somebody that you can understand, explain it to you.

By: Radix on 5/12/11 at 8:35

"By: revo-lou on 5/12/11 at 9:23
The saddest part is that you know that you would not be the person one should be, without the "drug" you use."

So Christianity is a drug, but the guy who wants to liberate Muslims from Islam is an intolerant hater? Do I have that right? Truly you have a dizzying intellect...

By: Houston on 5/12/11 at 8:36

Islamist immigrants are a real problem for the Netherlands--it is an ethnic state, composed of North Sea littoral Germanics, predominantly Calvinist, and it is losing its identity through massive immigration. Geert Wilders is arguably playing a positive role in his own country.
But what is he doing here? The United States is not an ethnic state--our ancestors come from all parts of Europe, Africa, the Americas, and Asia. Our national identity does not rest on religion or race. Our institutions give us the freedom to practice our religion, as we wish, and do not permit us to impose our beliefs on others. If I choose to pray to Baal or Shiva, it's my own business, and will hardly harm anyone else.

By: Radix on 5/12/11 at 8:38

A little obfuscation Lou? The thing about tolerance, is that unless you are a narcissist, it goes both ways. You are not exempt, so I would try to be more tolerant yourself, if you're going to preach it so much.

By: revo-lou on 5/12/11 at 8:38

All religion is a drug, you tool. I am sure this guy "feels" it is his duty to "liberate" all religions from what they are, to what he wants them to be. I wonder how much cornerstone is paying him to speak here?

By: revo-lou on 5/12/11 at 8:41

No, you fool, tolerance does not mean the acceptance of others spreading messages of hate. I would not have been “tolerant” of Hitler, though it seems that you would have. Strange indeed.

By: BenDover on 5/12/11 at 8:43

Ingleweird, To draw a moral equivalence between Christianity in modern western culture and Islam is just plain stupid. As I said, Critical Theory gone wild.

By: Ingleweird on 5/12/11 at 8:44

Radix:
You are a religious zealot. I have no tolerance for political/religious activism from tax-exempt entities. You can decide how you want to live your life. I am perfectly tolerant of that. The moment you begin espousing and proselytizing your beliefs upon and judging others is where my tolerance spontaneously combusts. I apologize that my pointed satire is too dull to penetrate your thick skull.

By: BenDover on 5/12/11 at 8:48

By: Loner on 5/12/11 at 9:05

Thank you, Ben, how's this: "Pilloried by our own legal system and flagellated with the tips of our own democratic values"?

That's good loner but it takes away from the connotation I was after. Basically I was trying to say that Islam is using our own liberties against us to try to accomplish a world-wide caliphate for a world wholly inconsistent with those liberties.

Islam IS a political movement with very oppressive aims; yet western liberals aren't smart enough (or are either too smart) to realize that our system is worth keeping.