Council members could outlaw guns in Davidson County parks

Friday, June 5, 2009 at 1:41am

If state legislation to allow guns in parks is enacted, Metro Council members are prepared to respond by bringing forward legislation that would maintain the status quo in Davidson County.

Legislation has been approved by both Houses that would allow gun carry permit holders to bring guns into parks. It is awaiting a signature from Gov. Phil Bredesen.

Last week Bredesen vetoed similar legislation to allow guns in restaurants and bars, but legislators overrode that veto Thursday. The new law allowing guns in restaurants will go into effect July 14.

If Bredesen signs off on guns in parks, or if his veto is over-ridden again, then Council will respond by filing legislation that would again make carrying guns into Davidson County parks illegal.

“It is horrible public policy. The day the governor signs it, that same day I’m filing legislation to outlaw it locally,” at-large Councilman Jerry Maynard said.

Metro Council already passed a memorializing resolution opposing guns in parks. The bill was co-sponsored by Maynard and fellow at-large Council member Megan Barry.

Metro oversees its own parks and would by charter be able to outlaw guns in parks, according to Maynard, if Council passed a law of its own.

The bill has support of other Council members as well, including District 7 Councilman Erik Cole. Mayor Karl Dean signed the memorializing resolution sponsored by Barry and Maynard.

Dean said he believes guns in both parks and bars is “a bad idea.”

“I think there’s a general feeling that our parks are highly populated, highly utilized,” Cole said. “We are a large county and we have some rural areas but it seems like by and large the opinions I hear are folks would rather not have weapons in the parks at all.”

The movement against guns in parks by Council comes at the same time that at-large Councilman Charlie Tygard is pursuing legislation that would allow Metro to pull beer permits of establishments that allow customers to carry guns.

81 Comments on this post:

By: Cookie47 on 6/5/09 at 1:24

THANK YOU, PROMOSFRIEND!!!!!

Cookie47
Handgun Carry Permit Holder

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 1:24

well, i don't dine with thugs, so it's irrelevant. i've dined in many restaurants throughout the U.S. and NEVER ONCE had to deal with a thug in a restaurant. I've never had Pulp Fiction incident. Cookie, i'm sure you're a responsible gun owner, but there's a lot of people who are not and would be carrying guns. i'd be scared to death to think of someone as unstable as sid carrying a gun into a restaurant where i'm dining. she'd be angry enough and trigger happy enough to create a catastrophe where there otherwise wouldn't be one. i don't need someone to "cowboy up" during my dining experience because they perceive a "threat." that's what i'm saying.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 1:26

btw, why did you bring up the Centennial Park incident if you were not using it to justify carrying a gun?

By: Cookie47 on 6/5/09 at 1:41

I was bringing it up to point out there's parts of Nashville I will not go without being armed. I've also conceded there are some parks where guns should not be, Centennial Park being one of them.

Because of my experience with the guy slapping the hell out my window because I would not give him money, I simply avoid the place now.

I avoid the Shelby Park area due to news stories of people being robbed on the golf course. The green way is in the same area.

For me, these are good reasons to avoid these areas. If you know different (I'll turn the tables here). convince me.

Cookie47
Handgun Carry Permit Holder

By: Kosh III on 6/5/09 at 1:43

So, not only is there NO evidence of lief-threatening danger in parks, there is no evidence that restaurants are filled with gun-toting thugs.

However, if the gun gang can provide hard facts, statistics and proof, "bring it on."

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 1:54

Cookie, i know different because i go to Centennial Park all the time and have for years. i've never felt unsafe. many of my friends hang out there too and have had no problems. i don't know what else to tell you.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 1:55

i've even been in Centennial Park at night when i wanted quiet conversation with a friend. again, no problem.

By: dogmrb on 6/5/09 at 1:56

Cookie47, with your logic, you should stay locked up in your compound. None of us get out of this thing alive and you'll probably get some disease from a germ and die without ever having the ability to shoot it.

By: Cookie47 on 6/5/09 at 2:00

Kosh,

For the love of your God, take a chill pill!!! I don't have the "statistics" but I don't need the anal-retentive numbers to make every one of my decisions. Sometimes I go with what I see on the news as well as my gut.

And before you say anything smart ass, my gut feelings have kept me out of more than a few bad situations. You should try listening to your own some time.

Look, I agree with PromosFriend. I'm not going to change your minds. Just know I do carry and I hope I never have to use it for anything other than target practice.

Cookie47
Handgun Carry Permit Holder

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 2:02

i go hiking by myself at Radnor Lake. nope, not one problem. i've gone hiking at Percy Warner and Edwin Warner. no problem. Fannie Maye Dees? Again, no problem. Sevier Park? Nope.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 2:05

Cookie, i listen to my gut feelings all the time. i'm 41 years old and have not had a gun pulled on me or anyone else while in a restaurant or park. sheesh.

By: Cookie47 on 6/5/09 at 2:05

" By: dogmrb on 6/5/09 at 2:56

Cookie47, with your logic, you should stay locked up in your compound. None of us get out of this thing alive and you'll probably get some disease from a germ and die without ever having the ability to shoot it."

As long as you stay out of the "Compound", there will be nothing for you to worry about.

Now, if you'd like to have a logical, adult conversation, lets talk. If not, crawl back under your rock, dogmrb.

Cookie47
Handgun Carry Permit Holder

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 2:10

it's a shame that we live in such a fear based society.

http://www.trans4mind.com/life-coach/life-challenge1/ong3.shtml

there is nothing to fear but fear itself. and stray bullets from sid's gun.

By: Cookie47 on 6/5/09 at 2:13

Blanketnazi2,

I'm 47 and I have had a gun pulled on me. Not in a park or a restaurant but by someone I thought was a friend. I vowed then not to let it happen again. I guess you have to stare down the barrels of a double-barrel shotgun to understand. I sincerely hope you never have that experience but that's the main reason I carry.

Cookie47
Handgun Carry Permit Holder

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 2:13

The media acts as if it is its purpose to spread fear among people all the time. The reports of rape, child molestation, murder, robbery, assault are daily in mainstream media. The media does not take the time out to balance them appropriately by location or per population statistics. Daily diet of horror stories subliminally act on the psyche of the viewer and leave an impression that the world is a very dangerous place. The children in school are also filled with books and stories, which have horrible things happening to their characters, and very rarely, have happy endings. There are also no heroes in the children's stories, leaving an impression that the bad people rule all over the world and there is nobody good to stop them, or that good people cannot win.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_liberty_122002_fear.html

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 2:15

i'm sorry you had that experience, Cookie but you bring up a good point. most gun violence is caused by someone an individual is familiar with, such as in a case of domestic violence. that does not mean that gungo cowboy types need to carry guns into parks and restaurants.

again, i am very sorry for your experience. i'm glad you were not hurt. had you had a gun in your hand, however, that person may have followed through and shot you or took your gun away from you and shot you with it. just something to think about.

By: Cookie47 on 6/5/09 at 2:17

Or I could protected myself.

Cookie47
Handgun Carry Permit Holder

By: scraigtn on 6/5/09 at 2:20

"I'm 47 and I have had a gun pulled on me. Not in a park or a restaurant but by someone I thought was a friend. I vowed then not to let it happen again. I guess you have to stare down the barrels of a double-barrel shotgun to understand. I sincerely hope you never have that experience but that's the main reason I carry."

Just curious, Cookie, but was alcohol involved?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 2:21

or you could have ended up dead. i'm glad you didn't.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 2:33

violence begets violence.

By: Cookie47 on 6/5/09 at 2:38

scraigtn,

Nope, he was stone-cold sober as was I. The person was having an affair with my now ex-wife. I was unarmed and they just wanted me out of the picture. If he'd just asked, I'd let him have her. We were getting a divorce anyway. That was a little over seven years ago.

Cookie47
Handgun Carry Permit Holder

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 2:42

so, it was domestic violence.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 2:53

well, it made national news:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31122117/

By: Cookie47 on 6/5/09 at 2:53

Not on my part. The gun in my face and the conversation that followed was the way I found out about the affair. I left and let the courts sort it out.

Cookie47
Handgun Carry Permit Holder

By: Cookie47 on 6/5/09 at 2:56

Have a good weekend, Gentlemen. I've enjoyed the conversation. We'll just have to agree to disagree,

Sincerely,

Cookie47
Handgun Carry Permit Holder

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 3:01

makes me wonder if cookie feels more like a man now that he can carry a gun after the person who stole his wife had to pull a gun on him to make him go away. something to ponder.

By: Cookie47 on 6/5/09 at 3:13

Not gone yet, Nazi, and, no, I don't need a gun in my hand or on my hip to make me feel like a man. Enough said.

Besides, I got the better end of that deal. He got her and I got my freedom. Poor bastard!!!

Now, that's something to ponder.

Cookie47
Handgun Carry Permit Holder

By: eljs on 6/5/09 at 4:38

Simply put there should not be guns in bars and parks. Common sense people.

By: nashpar on 6/5/09 at 4:42

People should have a right to carry, but I think this situation poses a real threat to the innocent bystander, and the children in the parks. I hope that the ban goes through. I agree with Dean, my councilwoman Barry and Bredesen.

By: sidneyames on 6/7/09 at 8:44

Well, all you negatives, I didn't shoot him. In the long run I am the single reason he got to NOT get convicted. It was his first offense. He had NO gun permit; no legal right to on a hand gun. It was not his property; he was a renter. BUT I felt sorry for his wife and begged the prosecutor to drop the charges. His wife would have suffered if he was convicted of a felony. He had no other misdemeanor or felony charges in the entire country. So I asked for the charges to be dropped. His attorney told me that the guy was scared of his neighbors and that's why he acted out so wildly. I was there only in the course of my job. I had a right to be there because I was representing the Federal govt. Anyway, he got apologize to me; I accepted his apology; he moved to a safer neighborhood and got to keep his job. All that without a felony charge of aggravated assault. So if you people don't like me, you can stuff it. I don't write on this forum to make friends. I just do it to express what I want to express -- whether it's sweet or angry. And NO, actually I would not have shot him. That was a mis-statement -- sort of like Obama and his cronies are doing.

By: old pappy on 4/9/10 at 12:34

old pappy, I have carried a handgun 50 years. to protect my life i have pulled it 3 times & that was all it took. I did not have to shoot anyone. If I had not had the handgun i would have been bad hurt or dead. the fighting men of our country gave us the freedom we have today & if we sit on our a-- & do nothing, we will lose that freedom & taking our guns is the first step. we need to vote for men who support our right to bear arms & send the others packing. I believe myself & a lot more davidson Co. folks are smart enough to go armed.
I do have a carry permit. Pappy