Fairgrounds bill fails to clear council committee

Monday, November 15, 2010 at 6:17pm

By a resounding vote, the Metro Council Budget and Finance Committee voted on Monday to recommend disapproval of a bill that seeks to preserve the city-owned fairgrounds.

The ordinance, sponsored by council members Duane Dominy and Robert Duvall, received only one vote in committee, with 11 council members voting against it.

The bill, which would effectively stop Mayor Karl Dean’s plans to redevelop the fairgrounds, is scheduled to go before the council for the second of three votes on Tuesday night.

Interestingly, neither Dominy nor Duvall showed up to the committee meeting to speak on behalf of their bill.

Normally, by rule, a bill is deferred automatically when the bill’s sponsors are not present. However, at the last-minute, At-large Councilman Jerry Maynard, usually seen as an ally of Dean and the administration, signed the legislation to allow for the vote.

Some council members are speculating the mayor’s office is maneuvering to defeat the bill permanently at Tuesday’s meeting.

One of the key concerns council members cited is the bill’s lack of support from Metro Finance Director Richard Riebeling, who said the ordinance lacks a funding source.

Dean has previously called Dominy’s bill an “unfunded mandate.”

A competing bill, proposed by the Dean administration, outlines a set of leases to enable events currently held at the fairgounds’ expo center to relocate to Hickory Hollow Mall in Antioch.

The Hickory Hollow bill is to be considered Tuesday night on the first of three votes.

 

22 Comments on this post:

By: MAmom on 11/15/10 at 8:33

Dear Mr. Garrison,

Please give us a breakdown of the voting on these Fairgrounds bills.

We deserve to know how Metro's representatives are voting.

Thanks.

By: @antiochchicken on 11/15/10 at 10:16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1nORaNa3sI

By: JohnR on 11/15/10 at 10:36

So Maynard torpedoed the bill. I am not surprised. He is a puppet of Karl Dean.

Go to this website. It seems that he has had his law license suspended.

http://www.tbpr.org/Consumers/AttorneySearch/AttorneyDetails.aspx?id=ef9fc6f5-fe60-de11-8b1d-00221913b451

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/16/10 at 7:09

Smearing Maynard just shows your lack of character - it has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Maynard is/was a good councilman before Dean was elected into office.

Dominy and Duvall knew their bill would be vetoed, that's why they did their slimey tactic of not showing up and hoping it would get deferred. They know they don't have the support and they were hoping to buy time to extend their 15 minutes of fame.

By: racer84 on 11/16/10 at 7:39

I don't know who much blinder you can be to support criminals and liars.

The mayor turns to a EX- attorney who lost his law license not once, but several times and now can no longer practice law after suspension for ETHICAL VIOLATIONS.

So he's a convicted LIAR ?

Sounds like a true dean partner in CRIME.

By: MAmom on 11/16/10 at 7:54

"One vote in committee, with 11 council members voting against it."

Dominy and Duvall did not show because they did not want to waste their time.

By: girliegirl on 11/16/10 at 8:03

I agree with Blanket! Back off of Maynard totally. The guy's very respectable and trustworthy. Furthermore, if you sponsor a bill, for gosh sakes, SHOW UP. (duh) LOL

By: girliegirl on 11/16/10 at 8:13

This is all "procedural" stuff now. Wait until tonight. ;-)

By: judyboodo@yahoo.com on 11/16/10 at 8:20

NASHVILLE'S FOR SALE, NASHVILLE'S FOR SALE! Everybody come on down, big sale in Nashville is on the market. Peruse around the former Tennessee State Fairgrounds, see what's available for your pleasure and pocketbook. Endorsed by the Metro Council Budget and Finance Committee supported by 11 as yet unnamed council members and blessed by the Mayor. Then stick around for the next effort to ressurict the dead. May Town is back! Don't miss out on your chance to be a part of decimation of part of Nashville's undevolped land. Help to destroy the city's core so as later to be able to witness the decline of toursim in the city. Do your part, be a part of history, there's money to be made for the astute and connected!

By: Nashvillian50 on 11/16/10 at 8:20

Looking forward to seeing Darden, ole W and the Man who killed Dale ( #3) in the chicken outfit tonight. You will have to take the mask off guys to clear security at the courthouse.

Actually this is ONLY about the racetrack. Dominy lives next door to the race promotor and the whole entire effort is being paid for by former racers Waltrip and Marlin who have hired political opertive Darden Copeland to gin up a bunch of fake e-mails and non existent support for the "fairgrounds" and get a small crowd to show up at the courthouse. They could care less about the fairgrounds.......they want racing and would get rid of the rest of the "history" in a heartbeat. In fact they have proposed, in the past, making the facility a race only venue, expanding the track, etc.

All the flea market and Expo center supporters are being lead like sheep by the rich racers and their hired gun "grass roots" organizers. Sad.

By: Activate on 11/16/10 at 8:29

Most of Nashville has already been sold...

Do you know who owns (and profits from) the parking meters in our city?

(Hint: It isn't Metro.)

By: Community-carl-... on 11/16/10 at 8:30

......And so, the Karl Dean machine continues "steam-rolling" over everything in its path.

Watching this Fairgounds controversy is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. The vast majority of my acquaintances are against disturbing the Fairgrounds (except for maintenence and reasonable/modest upgrades). For Mayor Dean's administration to obligate public funds to relocate Fairground activities to Hickory Hollow Mall (Which will amount to a bailout of privately owned interests ) is outrageous.

The citizens and taxpayers should be allowed to vote on this issue. (But of course, Dean's administration will block this because he knows he is going against what the majority of the Nashville citizens want.

Dean should be satisfied with the MCC as a monument to himself........He'll be rememmbered for years to come as we, the people of Nashville, struggle to pay for it.

By: racer84 on 11/16/10 at 8:31

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By: girliegirl on 11/16/10 at 8:03
I agree with Blanket! Back off of Maynard totally. The guy's very respectable and trustworthy. Furthermore, if you sponsor a bill, for gosh sakes, SHOW UP. (duh) LOL

His law license has been suspended, not once, but several times. Currently he is suspended for ETHICAL VIOLATIONS !

Respectable and trustworthy attorney's don't have get suspended.

Is there NO COMMON SENSE on the side that is arguing to do away with the fairgrounds.

Lies are rampant as well.

Nashville 50, Please post proof of your accusations. Never has it been proposed to increase the size of the track. It's the perfect size and people in racing know better.

Ya'll will say anything won't you ?

Nashville 50 is apparently in deans pocket as well, Your words give you away as a liar and a crook.

By: bfra on 11/16/10 at 8:44

The joke of the day got posted on the board "Maynard is trustworthy". Doesn't take much to fool some people!

By: Nashvillian50 on 11/16/10 at 8:48

RACER84.....TIME FOR YOUR MEDS.....NURSE PLEASE GET HIM HIS MEDS HE IS LOSING IT. THIS IS WAHT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HIT THE WALL TO HARD TOO MANY TIME I GUESS.

I actaully agree with some of what you say Racer( Thanks for calling me a liar and crook when you don't know me) but have you been to the fairgrounds? It sits on the side of a really big hill. How do you "fit up"that? The problem is not just WHERE the Fairgrounds is, the problem is that the proprety just plain sucks as a fairgrounds because you can't walk from parking lot to the buildings. Have you ever had to take something from the flea market to your car and then walk back to flea market? You better have been training for a marathon if you do. Most can't. do it, me included.

Just saying that all this " the fairgrounds is wonderful" stuff must be coming from folks who have never been to the fairgrounds. Every building could be brand new and the fact of the gaint hill is in the middle would still be a huge problem.

Debate is fine but all this " I hate the mayor therefore this will destroy the city" is getting tiresome and is just silly. As you can see from my comment above however this is what you get when the "debate" is being driven by special interest ( rich NASCAR Racers) and their hired guns and not the folks who have a stake in the decision. It is true by the way. Sorry to bust your bubble but it is. Hope you get to felling better soon.

By: racer84 on 11/16/10 at 9:00

I'm glad you agree with me. Keep copying and pasting. Having your own thoughts and making your own decisions is tough to do for you I'm sure.

Even without meds, I know the difference in the truth, and lies, and even the usage of the word to, and too.

So maybe you're an uneducated crook, but nothing you've posted is true or makes sense.

Keep proving to all of Nashville what's wrong with this plan and the types of people behind it.

By: Nashvillian50 on 11/16/10 at 9:48

Racer84:

It's "TYPE" of people, not TYPES.

N50

By: racer84 on 11/16/10 at 10:58

50, So you can post that, but no proof of your accusations ?

Typical of you types

By: airvols on 11/16/10 at 11:45

The fat lady is singing! Finally!

By: yucchhii on 11/16/10 at 4:45

I wonder if any of the clowns in city hall alley read this paper and the comments? If so, then so be it, Here is a bit of TRUTH and for those POLITICIANS who do read this, and bear in mind, that for those who mislead on purpose this applies to "YOU!" The "LOVE" of MONEY is the ROOT of all evil. You people are "EVIL" and you ALL DISGUST ME!!!!!!! No need to tell you that YOU WORK FOR "US" and NOT for YOU!!!

By: MAmom on 11/17/10 at 12:40

" By: girliegirl on 11/16/10 at 8:13 - This is all "procedural" stuff now. Wait until tonight. ;-) "

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You were right. It was a great meeting.

At tonight's Council meeting the public was finally allowed to speak. Four people spoke in favor of the CBL leases and "redevelopment". THEN APPROXIMATELY 30 TO 40 PEOPLE spoke out AGAINST the CBL leases & the mayors plans. Some of these were Fairground supporters, flea market vendors, event organizers, race supporters, opponents to Dean's HH plans, lease opponents, etc.

I suspect Dean will do his best to try to prevent THAT from happening again. Watch for shenanigans by Dean's cronies at the next meeting.

An interesting point: one Councilman said something like he was offended by the departure from normal procedures. Said that in a Democracy ... people had to follow the rules... and letting the public speak was evidently offensive to him. I was told this representative - who doesn't want the public to talk - represents the Paragon Mills area.

One Fairgrounds supporter was a former member of the Fair Board, said that at the time he worked with the Fairgrounds there were over 700 "activity days" (i think that was the term) - where multiple events occurred at the same time in different buildings. The Fairgrounds were so busy they had to turn away business. The Fair had good financials back then, too.

That was then. Now the Fair Board (led by Weaver) chases away business & runs up expenses.

By: RickTNRebel on 11/18/10 at 10:44

It seems like SOMEONE wants to develop along the Lebanon Road Corridor...
(1) The "new" speedway is losing money...solution? shut down the old one completely!... even if "super" speedways are on their way out...short tracks are the NASCAR future.
(2) Lebanon wants the state fair...solution? shut down the historic state fairgrounds!...even though state fairs all over the country are in decline and are becoming as endangered as the family farm that created the fairs to begin with.
(3) "train to nowhere"...enough said there...why does it run out Lebanon Road and not north along the I-65 corridor?
(4) Urban Malls (read Hickory Hollow here) are losing money...solution? Let the Nashville taxpayers pay the rent!...even though internet shopping, Wal-Mart and the great driving distances are killing "malls". People want centralized shopping now...It's the environmentally sensible thing to do.
(5) Too many people are getting on the "Preserve Nashville History" wagon...solution? move metro archives to a remote, obscure location so the preservationists won't interfere with our plans to turn Nashville into the east coast "Las Vegas"!
(6)...New Convention Center...
(7)...MayTown...(on the flood plain)
Does anyone remember when "Deano" tried to integrate the Public Library and the Metro school system libraries to blur the lines between donated money and city money? What kind of crooked jerk dreams up crap like this? Greedy jerks and their greedy friends.
(8) ...Fort Nashboro...