Mayor’s office: Fairgrounds park proposal unrelated to racetrack

Tuesday, January 4, 2011 at 6:21pm

The mayor’s office is rejecting a charge slung by a group working to preserve the Metro-owned fairgrounds that suggests the process to begin the demolition of the property’s racetrack has already initiated.

Early Tuesday, Darden Copeland, a paid public relations operative representing the organization Save My Fairgrounds, issued a press release that alerted media members to a Metro-issued request for proposals, or RFP, in search of an architectural firm to carry out master planning and design services for a new 40-acre park at the fairgrounds, located off Nolensville Pike.

In the fall, the Metro Council unanimously approved Mayor Karl Dean’s capital spending plan, which set aside $2 million to begin the park’s planning process, part of which would cover a floodplain that sits on roughly one-third of the 117-acre property. During a series of public meetings, many fairgrounds neighbors advocated for a park along bordering Browns Creek.

Specifically, Copeland pointed out the RFP describes the fairgrounds and its racetrack in the past tense, using phrases such as “a former racetrack” in its description of the site.

The RFP, issued Dec. 15 with proposals due Jan. 14, comes as the council is set to consider on the second of three votes later this month a bill that would formally call for demolition of the racetrack, but maintain the state fair and the fairgrounds expo center for at least one more year.

“Save My Fairgrounds respectfully calls on Mayor Dean, and Parks Department head Tommy Lynch to suspend the RFP process out of respect for the Metro Council, the public, and the legislative process,” Copeland wrote in the release.  

But mayor’s office press secretary Janel Lacy says the RFP for the new park is not connected with the fate of the racetrack.

“The RFP is to hire a consultant to develop the master plan for the park and has nothing to do with the demolition of the racetrack,” Lacy said in a written statement. “There are no plans on what the park should be.

“Perhaps this group [Save My Fairgrounds] does not understand the normal process for capital improvement projects, but their claim that we are moving ahead with the demolition of the racetrack is inaccurate,” she added.

The fairgrounds’ floodplain — where the park would be located — covers primarily parking lots. 

61 Comments on this post:

By: caravangt on 1/4/11 at 7:46

WELL IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME KARL DEAN IS OVER THE HOLIDAYS AND READY TO PULL SOME MORE UNDERHANED TRICKS AGAIN
HES GOOD HE HAS HIS TRAINED PUPPETS WORKING FOR HIM AND NOW HES TRYING MAGIC TRICKS LIKE THE GOOD OLE SLIDE OF THE HAND TRICK
ONE MINUTE THE RACE TRACK IS THERE THE NEXT ITS GONE THANKS TO KARL DEAN & HIS TRAINED PUPPETS
GOD I WISH SOME ONE WAS RUNNING AGAINST THIS IDIOT, WE HAVE GOT TO GETSOMEONE IT THERE THAT IS NOT SO SPEND HAPPY AND WILL LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT PUT HIM THERE
HES DETERMENED TO DESTROY A PART OF HISTORY, WE HAVE GOT TO SAVE THE FAIRGROUNDS & RACETRACK AND GET RID OF HIS SORRY BUTT !!!!!!
HE HAS ALREADY PROVED TO ME YOU CANT TRUST HIM AND I VOTED FOR HIM AND GOD IM SO SORRY FOR IT
HE SURE TALKED A GOOD TALK DURING THE ELECTION, NEVER DREAMED HE WOULD TURN AS HE HAS
PEOPLE IF YOU VALUE THE FAIRGROUNDS & RACETRACK WE HAVE GOT TO STICK TOGEATHER AND SAVE IT
AND GET RID OF KARL DEAN & HIS TRAINED PUPPETS, GOD BLESS !

By: las04 on 1/4/11 at 8:16

Once again we the supporters of the Fairgrounds have basically been called dumb asses. Let's see Ms. Lacy, do you understand that the park is placed at the pit gate entrance of the race track and it would not allow enough parking space for those who come in the pits. We know what we are talking about, it's obvious you got a memo from that "Wannabe Mayor" and he didn't give you specifics. Do you really think we are a bunch of rednecks that don't know how to read ? As far as that goes do you realize that Neal Chaffin is a former fair board member, a very succesful buisness owner and father of a former track champion that went on to be a driver in the Nascar series higher ranks. I think he knows far more than you and at least 50% of the people who are sitting in the council chambers on Tuesday nights when it comes to this issue. If your going to respond to our claims that are sound and in black in white at least DO YOUR HOMEWORK........!!!!!

By: caravangt on 1/4/11 at 9:34

I FEEL THAT KARL DEAN THINKS HES SMARTER AND JUST A LITTLE BETTER THAN US POOR OLE WORKING PEOPLE
BUT HE PUTS HIS PAINTS ON JUST THE WAY WE DO ONE LEG AT A TIME
I GUESS HE THINKS THAT RACE CAR DRIVERS AND THE PEOPLE THAT WATCH AND ENJOY THE RACES ARE JUST DUMB OLE REDNECKS
YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK TO DARYL WALTRIP, STERLING MARLIN, RICHARD PETTY , CHAD CHAFIN
ALL OF THESE GREAT GUYS ARE RACE CAR DRIVERS AND VERRY SUCESFUL BUSSSINES MEN
WHAT HAVE THEY GOT IN COMMON THEY ALL RACED AT FAIRGROUNDS SPEEDWAY
SAVE THE TRACK GET RID OF THE IDIOT KARL DEAN !!

By: gas28man on 1/4/11 at 9:56

The divide and conquer effort continues. If anyone thinks the fairgrounds and expo center will last once the race track is gone, they are kidding themselves. If you let the race track go, it will be the first and biggest domino to fall, and the rest will follow -- count on it. The coalition of supporters for all parts of the fairgrounds must hang together, or they will surely all hang separately!

By: racer84 on 1/4/11 at 10:17

Step back and re-read the article and the statement from the Mayors office.

They just admitted that the track does NOT have to be demolished in order for the park to be built. While a little bit of a misstep on their behalf, which happens quite often when you aren't telling the truth. Sometimes the truth just slips out, even when you don't mean it to.

The argument is settled, race track, park, and a restored creek can all co-exist.

Thank You

By: caravangt on 1/4/11 at 10:51

karl dean wouldnt know the truth if it slapped him right between the eyes !!
and gas 28 man is 100% right if the track goes away the rest of the fairgrounds will go next,
whats bad about this whole damn thing is karl dean is not from nashville and probly hasnever sat foot in the flea market, attend a stock car race or a hunters car show
so again my question is what gives him the right to simply say the fairgrounds ^ racetrack has to go.
i guess he thinks hes god, and he has the power to do what ever he feels like doing
this is why we have got to stick togeather and save thefairgrounds & racetrack its part of nashvilles history
im so suprised that the historical committie have not tried to help it this fight
and i still say get rid of karl dean and save the track !!

By: HokeyPokey on 1/5/11 at 5:42

caravangt> "karl dean is not from nashville and probly hasnever sat foot in the flea market, attend a stock car race or a hunters car show
so again my question is what gives him the right to simply say the fairgrounds ^ racetrack has to go."

Hmmm, we had an election to decide that, you must have missed it but it was in all the papers.

HP

By: spooky24 on 1/5/11 at 6:38

Well, The mayor is being heavy handed and the RFP is somewhat of a low blow but he is determined.
Honestly, I don't see anything that is going to stop him. He has the council and the Tennessean right in his pocket. So best to just move on.

sp

By: caravangt on 1/5/11 at 7:46

hokeypokey with all due respect i may be a race fan and a supporter of the fairgrounds & racetrack and maybe even a touch of sourthern red neck in me
but im not dum nor stupid as you implied
im fully aware of the election and i voted as all good americans & nashvillians should
but karl dean has done what alot of the politicians do at election time and talk a good talk and say what everyone wants to here
and then show there trus spots, and there greed
so yes i voted for this idiot, and yes he has done some good things here in nashville
but the bad things are starting to out weight the good things and i m very sorry that i voted for him now, and will have to live with my misstake
but even winning the election and becomming the mayor DOES NOT GIVE HIM
( 1 ) MAN THE RIGHT TO SAY I WANT THE FAIRGROPUNDS & RACETRACK
DESTROYED AND THE POWER TO DO SO !
so if you think that just because he was elected as mayor and has all these wonderful powers of self decission , well i guess were all in trouble !!!
i pray we can save the fairgrounds & racetrack , its part of nashvilles & tennessee
history he wants to destroy
JUST WONDERING WHERE ARE YOU FROM ? GOD BLESS,

By: Community-carl-... on 1/5/11 at 8:36

Hey Spooky24 -

I disagree with your opinion that nothing is going to stop Karl Dean and his ill-advised plans for the Fairgrounds. Certainly, if we all go quietly into the night, he
will have his way. On the other hand, if enough people are courageous enough to stand up to him and his cronies, he will back down.

PEOPLE, this is no time to be complacent and remain a member of the silent majority......it is time for us ordinary citizens to stand united against Dean and his self-serving eletist friends. We must keep the Fairgrounds. Racetrack, and all related actiivities intact for future generations to enjoy.

......And make Dean a One-Term mayor.

By: karlwithak on 1/5/11 at 9:00

On Dec. 15, Metro Parks issued a request for proposals to hire a consultant to create a master plan for turning a portion of the fairgrounds into a 40-acre park. Among the many issues Dean’s opponents see is a map that shows potential redevelopment extending beyond the fairgrounds borders and taking out homes in the area. They see gentrification through economic redevelopment, African-Americans being moved out of the neighborhood for uncertain plans.

The map drawn up by Gresham Smith & Partners covers duplexes that backup to the fairgrounds along Bransford Avenue, and homes along Byrum and Rains Avenues near where Walsh Road intersects with Nolensville Road. These areas weren’t shaded during the Fairgrounds Task Force process last year.

A group of those trying to close the track was overheard stating that once they get rid of the trash that uses the track, They will be able to get rid of all the blacks in the neighborhood next. They laughed about the fact that they were using an African American council member to do this !I have many black friends who live in the neighborhood and they've even said that the majority of the African American neighbors want the track to stay. They all believe that Sandra Moore has sold them out and is expecting something in return since she ignores them and only listens to the 3 white attorneys !

Looking at those most vocal about closing the track, Upper crust white guys that make it clear they look down upon blue collar workers and blacks it's a shame it's come down to that. Sandra Moore is setting herself up for a huge embarassment in the African American community.

By: lookfor125 on 1/5/11 at 9:04

Absolutely, this asinine plan cooked up by Karl Dean can and must be defeated!Too many unethical practices have been introduced by Dean's office,therefore this idea must be dropped on ethical grounds alone! Talk about being out of touch with Nashville's values.Mayor Dean, the people can along with most anything, as long as its done in a fair and open manner,however mayor Dean actions have clearly not been!

By: las04 on 1/5/11 at 9:05

Spooky24, I beg to differ with you. If we all have your attitude he will get away with his sneaky, backstabbing ways. I will fight to the end and if you have any since of loyalty to this town or the race track you should do the same. I doubt that your for the Fairgrounds or the race track because we don't back down from anything or anybody. QUITTERS NEVER WIN.....!!!!!

By: soho12 on 1/5/11 at 9:21

it would seem to be somewhat ironic for you guys to want the city to continue to subsidize the fairgrounds when there is quite likely a better source of revenue for the city than its current uses.

If there remains a passion for this type facility then we need to find it another home.

it is quite noisy and a nuisance when you are outside tring to entertain. And yes , i have been to several gun shows, flea market saturdays, (good friend is a vendor) and even to a race or two.

By: Rat on 1/5/11 at 9:24

MESSAGE FOR MAYOR DEAN: WE THE PEOPLE OF NASHVILLE, TN. WANT YOU TO LEAVE THE TENNESSEE STATE FAIRGROUNDS/RACE TRACK ALONE. REMEMBER WE ARE VOTERS!!!!!!

By: pswindle on 1/5/11 at 9:41

If we can get the Council to delay, delay and delay about the Fairgrounds, we can get Dean out of office. Does Dean not know that we the poeple want the Fairgrounds and Racetrack to stay? What is wrong with him?

By: capt4chris on 1/5/11 at 9:54

Can you attach a copy or link to the RFP?

By: airvols on 1/5/11 at 9:56

We the voters of Davidson County want you to bulldoze the racetrack as soon as possible and let the boys go play in the other 15 tracks in MIddle Tennessee. Sick of this discussion move on with progress and let the jobs creation begin!

By: karlwithak on 1/5/11 at 10:10

Link to RFP http://www.nashville.gov/bob/rfp/rfp_10159.asp

By: soho12 on 1/5/11 at 9:21
it would seem to be somewhat ironic for you guys to want the city to continue to subsidize the fairgrounds when there is quite likely a better source of revenue for the city than its current uses.

Soho - Please show the financials from metro that validate your statement that the city subsidizes the fairgrounds. It's actually quite the opposite with the Fairgrounds actually subsidizing the CITY !
Look at the $4 million taken from the Fairgrounds in 2007 to keep the Preds from leaving. Uh Oh, you weren't aware of that were you.

The city, nor state puts one nickel into the fairgrounds and hasn't in over 106 years.
It's totally self sustaining. Ironic

By: jasonweaver on 1/5/11 at 10:14

Airvols if you think that erasing the racetrack is going to magically mean a bunch of new jobs are created you are sadly mistaken. Unless the city has someone entirely new sitting in Dean's back pocket ready to jump once the site is cleared, that spot will sit empty for years to come.

By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 10:20

@Jason....Betcha he does! :-)

By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 10:21

It's PRIME location!!! There are hundreds if not thousands of companies and some corps that'd jump on that location....leave CA and all those high taxes, silly regulations, bring their jobs here!!!! Woohoo! Bring it on, baby!

By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 10:22

@Airvols....absolutely! Move on...dot Nashville

By: racer84 on 1/5/11 at 10:26

Airvols and girlie girl
Elitists and Racists using jobs as an argument. Funny

By: caravangt on 1/5/11 at 10:26

YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO YOUR OPINION ( AIRVOLS ) APARENTLY YOU DONT LIKE R4ACING OR THE FAIRGROUNDS AND ALL THE THINGS WE ENJOY
WHAT IF WE THE FAIRGROUND SUPORTERS WANTED TO DESTROY SOMETHING YOU ENJOY LIKE THE TITANS WE SPEND A FORTUNE ON OR THESOUNDS BACEBALL OR THE PREDS WE PAY FOR THE BUILDING THEY PLAY IN
THE CONCERTS AT BRIGESTOE ARENA WE ALL PAY FOR THAT BUILDING TO SEE MUSIC VENUES, MONSTER TRUCK SHOWS ECT.
METRO DOES NOT SUPPORT THE FAIRGROUNDS OR RACETRACK WHAT SO EVER NO MONEY TAKEN FROM METRO GOVT. TO SUPPORT THE RACETRACK FAIRGROUNDS OR FLEAMARKET
BUT YOU DAMN WELL KNOW THAT METRO COLLECTS THERE SHARE OF TAXES FROM THE FAIRGROUNDS, RACETRACK, STATE FAIR, FLEA MARKET
SOTELL ME SIR WHO NEEDS TO MOVE ON ?

By: karlwithak on 1/5/11 at 10:30

By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 10:21
It's PRIME location!!! There are hundreds if not thousands of companies and some corps that'd jump on that location....leave CA and all those high taxes, silly regulations, bring their jobs here!!!! Woohoo! Bring it on, baby!

Check out the vacancy rate for office space in downtown Nashville.

If what you say is true, Why did NISSAN move it's headquarters to Downtown only to build in Cool Springs leaving a massive empty space downtown.

Just answer that, plain and simple.

By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 10:35

Downtown is a joke...to congested....makes me nervous, which is why I won't go down there except once every couple of months or so. Cool Springs is fabulous, except during shopping insanity just before/after Christmas. Plus, parking will be easier, less foreign and uninviting once they design it on that site. (I'm actually excited.)

By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 10:38

I'm not an elitist, but I don't gather my "mob friends" and crowd the halls at the Courthouse like your group did. I was there, walked through the area, and opted to wait in a more reserved area. I'm just a mom, with a meager life, not trying to force other taxpayers in Davidson to keep a "dive" on the books any longer. That operation can be moved to cheaper real estate. Period.

By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 10:39

Educated does not necessarily equal "elitism"....but conveys that you're willing to research a project/topic and apply common sense to solve a particular situation, which, I might add, needs desperately to be solved.

By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 10:41

Your "Save the Fairgrounds" group is not willing to listen or abide by any other findings, so why bother to convey your point any further. Even if someone handed you "billions" of dollars for that site, you would not be appeased. You've made that point self evident.

By: yucchhii on 1/5/11 at 10:45

Mayor Karl DINK is a thief!!! He is going to take from you what is important! He has NO intentions of letting you (The Taxpayer) have what's important to you! He's to involved with the money he get's to put in HIS pocket and what money he can put into the pockets of those who will support him! C'mon, since when does ANY politician give a dam about what "YOU" the taxpayer want? What do democrats and Republicans have in common? They are "ALL" politicians and they will "ALL" BS you till you are full of it as they are!!! IF I'M WRONG, "PROVE ME WRONG!"

By: karlwithak on 1/5/11 at 10:51

By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 10:38
I'm not an elitist, but I don't gather my "mob friends" and crowd the halls at the Courthouse like your group did. I was there, walked through the area, and opted to wait in a more reserved area. I'm just a mom, with a meager life, not trying to force other taxpayers in Davidson to keep a "dive" on the books any longer. That operation can be moved to cheaper real estate. Period.
.By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 10:39
Educated does not necessarily equal "elitism"....but conveys that you're willing to research a project/topic and apply common sense to solve a particular situation, which, I might add, needs desperately to be solved.

Re-read your comments above, Calling 500 voters showing up to be a part of the American process of government for the people by the people and you label them as a "MOB"

Just because your "mob" could hold it's meetings in a broom closet don't put labels on people you know nothing about.

You haven't posted one single educated statement, nor backed up ANY statement with documentation to prove your point. Your view is so invalid there isn't anything you can post to back up what you say. That's why the Mayor's office keeps stepping in poo everytime they make a statement. It's not true, so there is nothing to back it up to validate.

Quite simply, you aren't educated on this issue at all.

By: karlwithak on 1/5/11 at 10:52

By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 10:41
Your "Save the Fairgrounds" group is not willing to listen or abide by any other findings, so why bother to convey your point any further. Even if someone handed you "billions" of dollars for that site, you would not be appeased. You've made that point self evident

Another statement you can't back up.

Please post proof of how we would not be appeased with a Billion Dollars for the site. You said it, now back it up and validate it.

By: caravangt on 1/5/11 at 10:57

girliegirl > your not from here and could care less about the history of the fairgrounds & track
and downtown is a joke and you can thank our mayor karl dean for the mess
and us the supporters of the faigrounds are fighting for something thats ours we grew up with
and what right do you have blow in our city from california and start telling us what we need to do and on top of that call us ( MOB )
i think you need to go back home like karl dean needs to !
and if you like cool springs so much stay there and away from the fairgrounds if you dont like them.
the fairgrounds & racetrack has been in nashville for over 100 years its a big part of our history
so you and karl dean have alot in common as i see it you both are not from here
but want to tell us that are from her what to do and how to do it
well thats not going to happen in this town and karl dean is starting to see that now
so good luck with your attitude around here !!
AND BUY THE WAY METRO DOESNT PAY OR SUPPORT THE FAIRGROUNDS WHAT SO EVER AND NEVER HAVE
AND THE FAIRGROUNDS IS NOT AS YOU SAY ON METROS BOOKS !

SAVE THE FAIRGROUNDS & RACETRACK & MAKE KARL DEAN A ONE TERM MAYOR !!!!

By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 11:08

I'm stuck here....family, etc.... been here for nearly 20 years. That's more time than most criminals serve these days...for murder, I might add. LOL

Get over yourselves, and I mean that nicely, of course. We need the revenue that can and should be garnered by that location and the businesses and adjuncts that it potentially can give to the entire city, not just the folks visiting once a month from the Mt. Juliet area.

By: caravangt on 1/5/11 at 11:12

WE WILL TAKE UP A COLLECTION IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO CALIFORNIA !

By: morpheus120 on 1/5/11 at 11:20

This is kind of a minor thing, but I would like to know if Joey Garrison and the CP are going to refer to every spokesperson for a company or organization as "a paid [public relations] operative" from here on out.

Has there been a change to the AP stylebook or is the CP taking marching orders from the Courthouse now like the Tennessean is?

By: karlwithak on 1/5/11 at 11:20

By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 11:08
I'm stuck here....family, etc.... been here for nearly 20 years. That's more time than most criminals serve these days...for murder, I might add. LOL

Get over yourselves, and I mean that nicely, of course. We need the revenue that can and should be garnered by that location and the businesses and adjuncts that it potentially can give to the entire city, not just the folks visiting once a month from the Mt. Juliet area.

Keep Trying.....

Why did Karl Dean shove a BILLION DOLLAR Convention center down the throats of Nashville Tax payers ?

To bring in people to visit from outside Davidson County.

What you fail to understand, or acknowledge is the issues of revenue from the Fairgrounds only began to decrease annually while Rich Reibeling has had control of the property.

Like I've asked you to do, We can back this information up. It's well documented that the first time the property started to lose vendors, revenue, and just generally was trashed publicly by those that use the site was.....When Rich Reibeling was running the show as Chairman of the Fair Board !

Who is at the forefront of the issue today, Rich Reibeling. It's fraud, it's criminal and he's cost the city of Nashville several hundred million dollars with his plan to steal the property by engineering it to fail.

What's your next argument ?
It's snowing, I got all day.

By: karlwithak on 1/5/11 at 11:25

Read up, I'm backing up what I say with facts.....

http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashville/the-fairgrounds-debate-could-turn-into-a-dunking-booth-for-the-dean-administration/Content?oid=2033356

Some 10 years ago, a Fair Board commissioner named Richard Riebeling walked into the office of then-Mayor Bill Purcell with an idea to redevelop the Tennessee State Fairgrounds. The city was eventually going to lose money on the whole operation, Riebeling told him. High-profile racing interests had already moved to a new track in Wilson County, and remaining events weren't drawing the way they used to. Rather than take the financial punch they saw coming, Riebeling and other commissioners wanted to lean on the ropes, assess their options and make a different move.

The board hired consultants, who helped conceive the ill-fated idea to build a new baseball stadium for the Sounds on the 117-acre property. According to a former board member who served at the time, Riebeling and others discussed putting a public park on the property, and perhaps offices or housing. Riebeling had a mockup made of a redeveloped fairgrounds property that he later presented to the mayor. What was clear, strange though it might seem, was that continuing to hold the state fair there was near the bottom of a long list of concerns for many of the commissioners. Move it to Wilson County, they said.

Not on Purcell's watch. The mayor remembered for the immoderate attention he paid the city's smaller constituencies said no.

"He clearly was not interested in pursuing it," Riebeling says. "It was his prerogative. He was the mayor. And so it ended."

Until June 30 of this year. That's when Mayor Karl Dean officially signed the fairgrounds property over to his administration's finance department — of which Richard Riebeling is in charge

By: Lorenzo on 1/5/11 at 11:38

The new "temporary" Nashvillians want to turn our city into MCNashville using any means necessary and as a result our city's history will become 15 to 20 year segments of time to which no can relate. Remember when may be to lowest form of conversation but to some relating back to childhood, family times, and identifying historical mistakes are the foundation to our future. When historical landmarks and events are destroyed they are gone forever. I can remember back in the late 70s early 80's when downtown developers briefly suggested tearing down the Ryman in the name of progress.

By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 12:18

Hey, KarlwithanIdon'tcare....I have a life....suggest you find one yourself. ;-)

By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 12:18

Hey, KarlwithanIdon'tcare....I have a life....suggest you find one yourself. ;-)

By: girliegirl on 1/5/11 at 12:21

I didn't vote for Karl, nor did I hold a fundraiser for him in my home, but I certainly will this next time! Woohoo! Finally someone looking out for the "majority" of Davidson County voters.

By: caravangt on 1/5/11 at 12:26

i just burried my father december 21st 2010, he was 76 years old and a loyal and regular visitor of the fairgrounds and racetrack
im 54 years old and have very found memories of rideing his shoulders to go to the then fairpark , and then to the racetrack to watch the stock car races.
one saturday nite after the race was over my dad put me on his shoulders and we went down to meet the drivers
i remember being sat on top of coo coo marlins brite red # 711 62 chevy impala
i was only 7 or 8 years old but it was the most exciteing thing that ever happened to me at that time of my young life.
and that started my devotion to the fairgrounds and the rtacetrack, and my point is that it was and is a family envirement that you could co and enjoy and not have to pay a fortuine
ive been to several state fairs there, ive been to every one of hunters car shows ,and the flea market you never get tired of it its always something different
the parking is free not like downtown, and the place always stayed packed with people.
karl dean made a coment on the news the other nite and i think it went somenthing like this.
HE WAS STANDING IN FRONT OF THE FAIRGROUNDS AND SAID POINTING AT THE PROPERTY LOOK AT ITWHY WOULDNT YOU WANT TO GET RID OF IT !!
well what gives him the right to be the judge & excutioner of the fairgrounds & track
my dad bought me a toy checker flag with the speedway logo on it in 1966 that i have treasured for years
and on dec 21st in the cold and rainy day i placed that flag on my dads grave because he was aloyal race fan and a true champion to me,if he were still alive even at 76 he would fight for our fairgrounds , our racetrack not KARL DEANS !1
i still dont think its a money issue at all i think its just the fact karl dean does not like it and he wants it destroyed the sooner the better
so please stick togeather save the fairgrounds and the track , get rid of KARL DEAN

By: racer84 on 1/5/11 at 12:46

Girliefool
If so much majority, why only 3 people show up to council meeting,3 people post comments in favor of deans plans while savemyfairgrounds has 50,000 signatures say you and dean are wrong.
50,000 opposed
3 for
And you think those 3 are majority ?
You're not nearly as smart as you think you are.

By: bfra on 1/5/11 at 1:06

racer84 - Doesn't take but 1 comment from girlie, to peg her for what she really is.

By: racer84 on 1/5/11 at 1:21

Bfra, I know but its so enjoyable to see her "logic" ripped to shreds. She never has anything to post that refutes what's true. She's had multiple opportunites in this thread to make an intelligent point, and responds with nothing. No intelligence there.

By: fair_minded on 1/5/11 at 2:34

I guess if Garrison is going to always refer to Darden Copeland as "Darden Copeland, a paid public relations operative representing the organization Save My Fairgrounds,", I propose that in the future Janel Lacey always be referred to as "Janel Lacey, over-paid spinmeister, smoke shifter, and liar, representing the reprehensible mayor of nashville."

Further, WHY did this RFP originate with the parks department? The metro charter states very clearly that the fair board of commissioners has "complete charge and control over the [fairgrounds]property", and they have never approved a park on the property.

So "why" is the parks department putting out this RFP in the first place??

Does *any one* in metro government follow the law at all??

By: caravangt on 1/5/11 at 4:39

NOT KARL DEAN AND HIS TRAINED PUPPETS THERE ABOVE THE LAW IFD IT DOESNT WORK FOR THEM THEY JUST CHANGE IT !

By: walkabout on 1/5/11 at 5:48

Can these individuals that oppose the removal of the racetrack and use of the land for a park for the residents of our Wedgewood-Houston neighborhood PLEASE PUBLISH THEIR STREET AND ZIP CODE to prove they are also residents so that we can better understand your reasons to keep this dilapitaded, ugly piece of real estate. If you live here and still want the noise and unsightly structure to remain, I would be very surprised. I bet your zip code is NOT 37203!!!