Occupy Nashville members take Wall Street to task during protest

Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 5:32pm
By Steven Hale

The Occupy Wall Street movement officially landed in Nashville Thursday as several hundred members of the local group Occupy Nashville gathered at Legislative Plaza to protest corporate greed and, as one demonstrator put it, to emphasize there is “no wealth without labor.”

The event occurred one day after what was perhaps the largest protest yet in New York City, where upwards of 20,000 people marched on Wall Street Wednesday night, according to multiple reports. The Wall Street protests started Sept. 17 and have spawned similar demonstrations across the country.

Demonstrators in Nashville carried signs and led chants expressing the group’s primary complaints — chief among them, corporate personhood and corporate involvement in politics. At one point, the group marched a lap around the state capitol, chanting, “We are the 99 percent,” a statement to identify themselves as those beneath the wealthiest 1 percent on the economic ladder, which has become a rallying cry for the movement. One woman even pushed her child in a stroller adorned with the message.

In between group chants, various members of the group stepped forward to address the crowd. Most speakers received cheers and shouts of encouragement with each statement, but one man was shouted down after expressing support for Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul. Occupy Nashville has stated that it will not endorse any political candidate.

Speakers amplified their voices by way of the “human microphone,” a technique where the speaker’s statements are repeated loudly by the crowd so that all can hear.

Among the speakers was Springfield alderman James M. Hubbard. A Vietnam veteran and associate pastor at Fifteenth Avenue Baptist Church in Nashville, Hubbard told The City Paper he attended to continue a history of defending the ideals America holds most dear.

“I’m here today because I spent nine years defending this country in Vietnam and around the world — specifically to protect and defend the preamble to the Constitution, ‘We, the people.’ And with sad regards, corporate greed and inconsiderate conservative politicians have made America a hostage,” he said. “The present climate has deemed the average American powerless in all aspects. The dream has died.”

Officially, the group has rejected the idea that it is following a specific group of leaders or head organizers, though some have been particularly vocal. Michael Custer, who stood to welcome the crowd to the “first public general assembly of Occupy Nashville” Thursday and spoke several times at the group’s organizational meeting last Sunday, said the group doesn’t have one leader, but that he’s “been loud all [his] life.” Asked why he believed the group had gathered Thursday, he wanted to clarify a point he thinks some have been missing.

“We’re not here because we’re anti-wealth or anti-corporation. We’re here because of the greed,” he said. “No man is worth 1,000 times more than another man. I don’t care if there are wealthy people. But there is no wealth without labor. When they attack labor, they attack their own wealth.”

While most in the plaza Thursday appeared to agree with Custer’s statement, the demonstration did draw some detractors. One man appeared several times, once shouting at the protesters to “get a job” and “make some money” and later exclaiming “Tea Party,” as he pumped his fist. Observers even witnessed a brief physical altercation between the man and a young woman.

Jeff Howe, of Wilson County — which he called, “home of the GOP” — was more subdued in his opposition to the demonstration, but no more convinced of its merits. He said he has seen this before.

“It’s the same old thing; class-baiting, race-baiting. It’s Obama-nation. You know what they want? They want a handout,” said Howe, a father of six who is a former Marine and has a son currently serving overseas. “Veterans paid so these people can be here saying whatever they want to say.”

Some of what demonstrators were saying didn’t seem too far from Howe’s own feelings.

“Ninety-eight percent of congress probably is bought and paid for by corporations,” Howe said, adding that not all corporations are greedy. “To whom much is given, much will be required.” Moreover, he said, most are missing the real point, a point he brought up in several conversations with demonstrators. 

“I’m a born-again believer,” he said. “All this is a side show to the spiritual battle that’s going on.”

Sarah White, Mark Brooks and Salmun Kazerounian, members of the National Lawyer’s Guild, kept watch on the outskirts of the plaza, ready to provide legal support, if necessary. They said they attend such demonstrations in order to report any police misconduct, but that they had not witnessed any problems and didn’t expect to.

By approximately 2 p.m., the group had largely dissipated, with plans to reassemble for a second rally to be held later in the day at Centennial Park.    

39 Comments on this post:

By: T-BONE on 10/6/11 at 4:28

This is only the beginning! The people have awakened. The times... they are a fixing to change..."BIG TIME! They know now that they are living in a "FASCIST OLIGARCHY" !

By: Nitzche on 10/6/11 at 4:34

can a brother get a place of employment on these people, and some deodorant? just what I thought, neither! these people are sad

By: David_S on 10/6/11 at 5:18

These protests are pretty silly. They are protesting corporations because they feel that corporations have too much pull over politicians? Why not protest the politicians actually being corrupted, then? Corporations exist to make profit, and they are always going to try to game the system however they can. It is up to us the people to make sure the POLITICIANS IN CHARGE don't let them do this.

By: Corn Dawg on 10/6/11 at 6:40

"Observers even witnessed a brief physical altercation between the man and a young woman."

I guess it shouldn't surprise anyone that this "patriotic" Teabagger tried to assault an innocent WOMAN!

What a bunch of girly-men the right-wingers are. The only people who should be frightened of them are defenseless women (and Constitutional scholars).

I would love to see these pansies try to rough up a grown man, but I guess that's too much to ask for.

Pathetic cowards.

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By: Loner on 10/7/11 at 4:34

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Jeff Howe claims to be a born again Christian, but he loathes those looking for a "handout". His "Obama nation" wisecrack is so passe...Jeff is one hate-filled little follower of Christ, just like the rest of the Tea Bagging creeps....hatin' for the Lord....an old Southern tradition, I suppose.

These protesters ought to move to the USSC building, where the infamous Citizens United decision came down, That decision has opened the spigots of corporate cash; foreign and domestic corporations can now give unlimited cash to US politicians....the Supremes ruled that corporations are covered under the Bill of Rights, just like a living, but mortal person. Giving politician's campaign money is "freedom of speech", according to the top court....and corporations can now give away as much as they please, to whomever they want, for whatever purpose...it's wide open for absolute and total corruption....thanks to the Bush Court.

By: getajob on 10/7/11 at 5:54

Loner- I don't believe the southern tradition is people looking for a hand out. Southerners are hardworking people that work for what they have and defend against people taking it from them. They help their neighbors and their friends when they need it. However, they don't keep them up when they are perfectly able of keeping theirselves up.

I would have like to have been there in opposition, however I have to work. I have not been drawing unemployment for two years waiting for a high paying job because I am too good to work for minimum wage. Don't tell me there are no jobs out there, that is a lie. My son is 19 and has had 5 jobs in the last year. To my dismay, he keeps moving to other jobs because he thinks he is not getting paid enough. After all, he has no experience, only a high school eductation, but like most of the people in this country he believes he is entitle to what someone else has.

"A Job Is Better Than No Job"

Lets run all the corporations out of the country. Then who are we going to work for?Ourselves. Why would anyone want to start a business, and heaven forbid become successful, so someone came come along and take from us? So, what is the cap on what a business owner is suppose to make? Maybe we need to clarify that. That way when they get to that point they can just close until the next year and open up again. Laying off all their workers, not ordering goods from their supplies, not paying taxes, not distributing merchandise, etc.

P.S. Before you take out a student loan for $100,000. make sure there is a market for your degree. Or, maybe train in the technical field. Call a plumber or electrician to your house. They start at $50 an hour. You might have to work for it, but it doesn't sound like a bad living.

By: serr8d on 10/7/11 at 5:56

Occupy Wall Street, and the other 'Occupy' spinoffs, are a culmination of Barack Hussein Obama's "Class Warfare Presidency" and his continuous playing of his "Envy Card". These LeftLibProggs are nothing more than Community Organized Idiots.

This movement was envy born in the cauldron of class warfare; it had definite overtones that are neo-Communist, pro-Marxist and the sentiments expressed by these fools are nothing more thatn anti-American agitprop.

But it's serving Barack Obama well: covering for the 'Fast and Furious', Operation Gun Walker scandal that has culminated in 200 Mexican agents, and 2 U.S. agents dead. When this finally catches, it’ll be like a wildfire burning at the Obama administration. This is what they fear more than anything else, the possibility of Operation Gun Walker becoming the scandal that will destroy the Obama presidency.

But, keep your eyes on those bunnies occupying the parks, you media Deep Throats. And if that’s not enough distraction, maybe another downgrade or another economic setback can be arranged, to keep your attention away from all those dead people.

Remind me: How many died during the Watergate break-in?

By: TomJoad on 10/7/11 at 6:44

Well said serr8d.

I attended the protest party yesterday. Just as I thought, it was populated by old hippies and college students.

These have to be some of the sutpidest people I have ever seen. These are Obama voters who want to work themselves up into some emotional state to avoid having the face the reality of the ignorant decidion to support hope and change in the last general election.

They realize that they were dupted into voting for Obama and are afraid they are going to be called to task for not fulfilling their responsibilites as citizens. But, hust like Obama, they compound their ingnorance with more emtotion rather than do the hard work of researching the qualifications of the candidates.

They are the same losers that formed the hippie movement that is responsible for their ignorance today.

I encourage everyone to go onto the Occupy Nashville web site forum and educate these children. I tried and was banned for the site. I guess their idea of free speech protections only applys to the speech they want heard.

Their demands are as unachievable as they are ingnorant.

One of the many childish demands from their flyer handed out yesterday was a call to forgive all dept including student loans, credit cards and morgages." Yeah, that's going to happen.

By: govskeptic on 10/7/11 at 6:47

"Nashville Peace and Justice Center" tweets all the usual suspects for
loyal members to pull off their slippers, turn off MSNBC, leave the
coffee shops, and Hillsboro Village bars and meet on the Plaza. Bring
any signs you have in your emergency protest closets. Plan later to
gather at Centennial Park intersection (at our usual protest corner)
to continue this fun filled event and re-acquittance party!
P.S. All the TV stations will be there so spread out to make sure this
gathering looks huge for the guillable viewers! The President has our

By: richgoose on 10/7/11 at 7:02

As I have pointed out several times in different forums the underclass population is growing and they have a leader in Washington. Barack Hussein Obama is their champion. He thought that he could a parade of gifts and free stuff for his people. He has been perplexed by the evidence that there is no more money to hand out.

His people are miffed and angry. They were promised more free stuff. That was what hope and change was all about. MORE FREE STUFF.

By: BenDover on 10/7/11 at 7:30

It's also a huge distraction from their disastrous economic policy, Serr8d. They decided they need a fall guy and it's the evil rich.

By: Redbarron06 on 10/7/11 at 7:37

“no wealth without labor.”

Sounds like some commie/socialist chant to me. I got news for you. Unless sombody is greedy enough to go out and start a company because he or she wants more than what they have, there is no need for labor. Hell if you break it down anybody that labors is greedy because they could just sit on their ass and wait for the "food fairy" to show up with dinner. I'm all for paying a person for the worth of the job they do, but most of the people are not capable to providing a service that is either needed or wanted yet they want to get paid for it.

Now "Corn Dog", do you have any proof that the TEA partier assaulted this women or could it be that she assaulted him and he was defending himself? I'm not saying either way, I dont know but if you assume that because he assaulted her and not the other way around dont that make you a sexist? There cant be female on male violence just like there is no such thing as black on white racism?

On to "Loner" If unions, and groups like ACORN can give money to political canidates, why cant a buisness? You want an example of greed and political corruption look at the amount of money that unions like UAW, SEIU, ALF/CIO, groups like ACORN and by the way, COMPANIES like Solyndra and GE poured into Obama's camp during the last election. We won't even get into people selling T-shirts in Africa and sending money to Obama. There is all the proof you need for political corruption but I dont see you crying about that. The unions are the very source of the majority of our political corruption these days and that goes back decades.

Yea there is way too much corruption in politics, no doubt about it. But you know what, when one canidate tells me that he is going to steal from me so he spread what I earned around I am going to do the natural things and move toward self preservation and try to get the other guy elected.

In the end everybody has a right to demostrate, and everybody has a right to be critical of everybody elses opinion. Before you start pointing fingers look into the mirror. How many of these protesters have bank accounts, 401K accounts or own stock in anything? If they have a job and dont work for themself then they are working for one of those evil greedy, buisnessmen that wants to make a better living for his/her family. If they do then arnt they the very definition of hypocricy?

Bitterly clinging to my bible, my guns, and my Constitution.

By: Walter Sobchak on 10/7/11 at 8:32

What? Are you kidding me? Let me get this straight.

1. Presidents Bush and Obama sign federal stimulus bills.
2. Our tax dollars go to "save" the banks and pad the bonuses of of Wall Street execs
3. Conservatives, Progressives and Moderates alike are all up in arms.
4. Occupy Wall Street forms in protest of these actions

5. Conservatives call this action "neo-communist", "pro-Marxist", "Liberal conspiracy"

and the list goes on...

WHAT? Are you people really all this bi-polar and hypocritical?? You have no idea how stupid you look right now.

By: NArno4 on 10/7/11 at 8:34

Remember too that most of the corporation's profits come from us the consumer. The cell phone, the laptop, the IPad, etc...our heat/air units, the clothes we wear, the cars we drive and on and on. What I don't understand are the Hollywood folks like Alec Baldwin, Susan Sarandon, etc. protesting on Wall Street all the while taking millions of dollars from Capital One & Disney by doing their commercials. Sounds like hippocracy to me.

By: budlight on 10/7/11 at 8:45

Getajob I wholeheartedly agree with your 6:54 post.

My husband was laid off after 9 years with the same company (big company layoff in July 2011). He was making a great salary with benefits.

He has been interviewing and beating the streets for a job since the first week. He has come close, but not quite there yet to finding a job. In the meantime, he has NOT filed for his unemployment - which he has the RIGHT to do. He has actually been bidding side jobs and completing them - making more money than he would on unemployment.

This week he was on a temporary job. The head of the company saw him "working" and said "You are definitely a 'professional' in this business; here's a business card; call these people and they will get you placed for a job".

That is how it's done. I tell people this: IF YOU ARE UNEMPLOYED, YOU WILL STAY UNEMPLOYED. If you are working, you can always find another job. It's just the way it seems to flow. People doing the hiring are looking to hire people that are working because they feel confident that these people will get the job done. AFTER ALL, they are WORKERS, not slackers!

By: BenDover on 10/7/11 at 8:50

All of Bush's TARP loans were repaid Walter. Look it up if you don't believe.

In addition to the extra $4 trillion in additional debt run up in the past 3 years, though, Obama, Pelosi and Reid respent these $500,000,000,000 in loan repayments buying political favor and all manner of gewgaws and cronyism to perpetuate their political fortunes.

By: BenDover on 10/7/11 at 8:50

A little perspective:


By: Walter Sobchak on 10/7/11 at 9:01

Moot point Dover. This isn't about any particular administration. These folks are protesting the fact that our tax dollars went into the pockets of Wall Street Execs through bonuses etc. AND it's the same Conservatives that were all red-faced about this that are now attempting to vilify these protests. How can you be so angry at protestors that are out there protesting on your behalf? It's typical.

By: BenDover on 10/7/11 at 9:07

I've got no problem with the bonuses. Good for them Walter. I'm just pointing out that one administration was looking out for the taxpayers interest in all of this and another administration squandered it all for political gain and on unchecked cronyism.

By: Walter Sobchak on 10/7/11 at 9:11

How can you proclaim " Bush TARP funds were paid back" in one breath and then state that you have no problem with the Wall Street bankers not paying their loan back and taking bonuses from our tax dollars?? You are a wonderful case in point.

By: Walter Sobchak on 10/7/11 at 9:13

These people are protesting "UNCHECKED CRONYISM" Dover!! Geez get it through your skull.

By: Walter Sobchak on 10/7/11 at 9:18

It's also notable that commenters here are calling for these smelly, liberal hippies to "get a Job" on the day that we mourn the loss of ex-hippy protestor, and groundbreaking businessman Steve Jobs.

By: Redbarron06 on 10/7/11 at 9:26

Walter, how can you not be angry at a bunch of people that think the loans they got from the govt to go to school should not have to be paid back? How can you not villify these people that think that the Teamsters get a voice in govt but the company that hires them dont?

There are some common issues but the majority of the issues between the 2 groups are like oil and water.

Bitterly clinging to my bible, my guns, and my Constitution.

By: BenDover on 10/7/11 at 9:29

We're talking past each other Walter. I never said I'm OK with them not paying their loans back. I'm just pointing out that the demonized administration is the one that was looking out for the taxpayers' interests and in fact did structure the deal such that the taxpayers were repaid. The lauded Obama administration is the one who really cozies up with big business to exploit the taxpayers -- respending all of the repayments from the original TARP loans for political gain and further adding to the cronyism; turning the US into a bigger version of the Chicago political machine.

By: Walter Sobchak on 10/7/11 at 9:34

There is no Demonized administration but the one currently in office, Dover.

Barron, Why is it fair that Wall Street doesn't have to pay back their loan from the people, but college students do? That's the whole point.

By: Alan Hill on 10/7/11 at 9:38

Apparently some of you commented without actually reading the article.

“We’re not here because we’re anti-wealth or anti-corporation. We’re here because of the greed,”

Get it? This is not about our President, his policies, ore what you think about him. It is about money corrupting our system. A politician doesn't have a chance anymore without corporate money. An independent thinker with noble intentions cannot get elected. You don't think this is wrong?? This was our founding fathers worst fear, a ruling class of a powerful few. That's why they created a representative government. It is important to some Americans to take that government back and make it work.

I'm surprised the tea party types aren't joining in. Doesn't this movement mirror their ideals? Or are they just about electing Republicans and getting rid of the black President.

Maybe y'all missed this too:

“I’m here today because I spent nine years defending this country in Vietnam and around the world — specifically to protect and defend the preamble to the Constitution, ‘We, the people.’ And with sad regards, corporate greed and inconsiderate conservative politicians have made America a hostage,” he said. “The present climate has deemed the average American powerless in all aspects. The dream has died.”

By: Redbarron06 on 10/7/11 at 9:42

I did not say they didnt have to pay back loans. You ASSUMED I said something when I didnt. If you asked my opinion, the gov should not be giving loans to anybody. They dont have the authority to do it. There is a list as long as I40 of things the gov is doing that they should not be doing. They dont have the authority to do it.

To add, that any blame that is placed on POTUS should be shared equally with Congress. POTUS does not have the authority to borrow or hand out money on his own, honeslty neither does Congress. The real criminals in this whole thing that nobody seems to see is Pelosi and Reid. We should be serving their heads up on silver platters. They were key pullers of the purse strings under both admins. Bush was as far from being constitutional as Obama is.

Bitterly clinging to my bible, my guns, and my Constitution.

By: Bellecat on 10/7/11 at 9:49

Any person with a brain should be backing these people who are in the street trying to bring some attention and change to the ills of our country. Those ills which were largely brought about by the greed of politicians, Wall Street, and big business. And yes, for those of you who think business never does any wrong, business is involved up to their eyeballs in bringing this country down--they will sell their souls and everyone else's for a profit.

By: Walter Sobchak on 10/7/11 at 9:58

No Barron, I never said that YOU stated this. It's the fact that the bank bailout money is still out there that drove my statement. It's the point that these kids are making.

A millionaire banker takes a loan from the people in the form of bailout-funded bonus and doesn't pay it back.

An un-employed college grad says : "Hey you don't have to pay back your million dollar loan? I'm not paying my twenty thousand dollar loan either"

This is why protests happen. It's the same reason tea partiers have been protesting for the last couple of years. Most of you are so confused you don't know who to point your pudgy fingers at.

By: Redbarron06 on 10/7/11 at 10:14


"Barron, Why is it fair that Wall Street doesn't have to pay back their loan from the people, but college students do? That's the whole point."

Did I say it was fair? Did I say they shouldnt, no. In fact what I said was the the govt should not be loaning money to anybody.

This has nothing to do with why TEA partiers are protesting. TEA partiers are protesting against higher taxes, an uncontrolled govt and unrestrained trampling of the rights of the people.

Yes Alan, the "Rights of the People" including my right to be greedy. Some folks out there are so greedy that they actually pay people to work for them in factories, offices and other envrioments. If I create the next things that everybody just has to have why should I not charge the highest price I can get for it and pay the lowest amount for labor I can get it made for? If I charge too much, folks wont buy it, if I dont pay enough for labor, folks wont make it. Its a little thing called the free market, and it was this principle that made our nation the greatest power on earth. If it were not for greed, then we would not have any jobs at all in the world and everybody would be growing corn in their back yard living in a house they built with their own hands. GREED is good. Greed is what drives this nation to get up out of bed everyday and go to work and to put others to work. I dont open a buisness to provide somebody else with a job, or health insurance or take them off of the unemployment roles. I create a buisness because I WANT MORE THAT WHAT I HAVE. Because I want more I need to make more, sell more, and that is where the jobs come from.

Bitterly clinging to my bible, my guns, and my Constitution.

By: BenDover on 10/7/11 at 10:15

"Give me your money you greedy Wall Street b@stards!"

By: Redbarron06 on 10/7/11 at 10:21

And oh by the way Alan, since you want to toss out the race card I would counter that with many of the TEA partiers are looking to vote in a real black president not the mixed breed poser we have now.


Cain is a diret product of the TEA Party. I guess if you vote for the half white guy over the full black guy then we really know who the racists are this time.

Bitterly clinging to my bible, my guns, and my Constitution.

By: yucchhii on 10/7/11 at 12:04

yucchhii Ya know I see too many people here that were NEVER at the rally and being critical of things. I guess they have nothing better to do and have pathetic and BORING lives that make them do things like that! You people can see the USA going down the tubes right in front of your eyes and you want to complain about those who are TRYING to do something CONSTRUCTIVE!! Whats up with you people? Do you WANT to see the USA continue going down the tubes? Go ahead, keep up with ALL your whining and see what happens to the USA, IT WON'T BE LONG NOW BEFORE THE USA WON'T BE ANYMORE!!! Then we'll have YOU to thank!!! The politicians are successfully suckering you!!!

By: daryl venable on 10/7/11 at 4:29

The very instant our ill-informed friends brandish the “commie”, “hippie”, “get a job” shtick they’ve freely admitted they lack a rational argument bearing any relationship whatsoever to abject reality.

America has reverted back once again to a colonial enterprise whereby a handful of powerbrokers at the top extract wealth from the masses and redistribute it upward. Take a long hard look at the redistribution of wealth and the decimation of the middle class over the past 4-5 decades. No one in this society in power has any problem with wealth redistribution so long as said wealth moves upward into the hands of the few. No one in power in this society has any problem with socialism so long at the beneficiaries of said socialism are a handful of substantial people at the top. Recent Wall Street banker bailouts were socialist and they clamored for it. The staunchest “free marketeers” cried out for socialism and the entire planet witnessed it. Over this same 4-5 decades the productivity of the American worker has consistently grown while their ability to share in the wealth they create has been stolen. We are sharecroppers sans a voice in our own governmental “representation”. No lobby, no voice. No one opposes a free market economy; we would merely like to see that play out in real life for a change. It seems to become “class warfare” once those without power question the class warfare that has actually been wages upon us.

Our friends on the right have overlooked the operative permutation of one of their pet sayings which goes in fact, a little something like this, “any government big enough to take rights, wealth and liberty away from some out/minority group you disapprove of is also big enough to take rights, wealth and liberty away from you”. The big scam afoot was perfected upon the native peoples of North America who were genocided out of functional existence, blacks who were enslaved, and on and on it goes. Despite the grand creation myth, the lofty rhetoric of freedom, liberty, inalienable rights and such were solely for white titled propertied males - I know, you were born a tad too late to enjoy that. Anyone else whoever got a piece of that fought and died for it. The left? There is no left, there is no functional left. “Liberal” is a meaningless epithet which means nothing more at this juncture than “you said something I don’t agree with once”. The dismantling of governmental representation as it applies to those sans a well-heeled lobby effort has been bipartisan.

Capitalism as currently practiced in america and the most egregious versions of communism and socialism are but divergent paths to the same ultimate destination whereby all the power, all the wealth, and all reasonable access to either reside in the hands of a very few at the top. They never relinquish this of their own volition. Never.

There exists a ruling political oligarch class in America, and as long as we are duped into a passive state of mass distraction by shiny objects, gadgetry, Dancing With The Stars, the exploits of the Kardashian sisters, and American Idol contestants portrayed as “artists”, our rulers will have their way with us.

By: Radix on 10/9/11 at 8:23

1. I'm sorry, but corporations are made entirely of people, and those people can vote how they wish. (Corporations can't vote) Most corporations have profit sharing, but you have to work there and earn it, and it doesn't require a union. Corporations realize that happy employees make more money for everyone. No unions necessary. Don't like your job? Vote with your feet and get another one.

2. If a CEO can bring jobs to me and half a million others, they deserve to make millions. That is an extraordinary talent and extraordinary responsibility. Taking away his millions doesn't help anyone, it just provides a disincentive for others to do that.

3. Wealth is not attacking labor, labor is attacking wealth, and driving labor jobs overseas as a result - which destroys both jobs and wealth.

4. Taking away all the wealth from the billionaires will not make a dent in the National Debt.

5. Daryl, you are truly on a different planet.

By: Radix on 10/9/11 at 8:25

Funny their biggest gripe is corporate money in politics, but that is EXACTLY what unions do. Take dues from the workers and stuff their pockets and give the rest to politicians. All while selling you this load of bunk that they are looking out for you.

By: Radix on 10/9/11 at 8:32

Loner, let me explain how the system works, legislators MAKE laws, judges rule on them. The judges made the right decision. I know liberals want judges to be activists and all, but that is not their job. If you want that law changed, the legislators have to do it, not the judges. Remember the whole separation of powers thing is for your protection.

By: TheLikesOfUs on 10/9/11 at 8:16

Productivity in this country has grown while wages have stagnated for 30 years.


Overseas manufacturing, trade deficit, automation of manufacturing processes have all contributed, in my opinion. Corporate officers have not invented the innovations that increased productivity - an engineer or designer with likely good but not stellar pay has done that - but the CEOs have accrued the advantages. They have done what capitalism expects. They have run their businesses to the best of their ability, taken advantage of cheap foreign labor where they could, created jobs when it suited their business plans. All well and good, but the result has not been to create a prosperous society, but to concentrate wealth among a few. Someone somewhere is in a happy, profit-sharing, new job, but there aren't enough of them, and I have no expectation that corporations will act to the benefit of my neighbours. That's not the function of a corporation. That's the function of our government. I do not want my elected representatives diverted by corporate interests due to campaign contributions or other undue influence. They are there to represent me and my peers.