Study: Three sites highlighted for potential Sounds stadium

Wednesday, November 30, 2011 at 7:26pm

A Metro-commissioned study that evaluated sites for a potential new Nashville Sounds stadium will highlight three ideal locations, according to a source familiar with the report, which the Mayor’s Office will release Thursday.

The three sites are: an unspecified location on the east bank of the Cumberland River; property northeast of the Tennessee State Capitol that served as home to the long-demolished Sulphur Dell ballpark; and land in the north Gulch at 11th and Charlotte avenues where the temporary Greyhound bus station is located.

Metro Finance Director Rich Riebeling neither confirmed nor denied the report’s findings when contacted by The City Paper, but said it’s his understanding the study would come out Thursday.

“The report will speak for itself,” Riebeling said.

Members of Dean’s administration have called the report a necessary initial phase in weighing whether to assist Sounds owners in building a new downtown stadium to replace outdated Greer Stadium on Chestnut Street near Eighth Avenue South.

“That’s the first step — to determine what’s the right location or locations to build a baseball stadium, and then there’s lots of steps after that,” Riebeling said Wednesday. “There’s details on financing. There’s working out an agreement with the Sounds.

“I’m sure every site has unique issues that will have to be worked through,” he added. “It’s a long process from here, but this is a good first step.”

The site feasibility study is the product of Kansas City-based Populous Inc., the world’s dominant sports architecture firm, which Metro hired for $157,000. In all, the firm, working in conjunction with Metro, explored six different locations in Davidson County.

Noticeably absent among the study’s recommendations is the 11-acre former thermal plant location off Lower Broadway on the west bank of the Cumberland.

The Sounds’ former ownership group had coveted the old thermal site for a new stadium, but a deal fell apart during then-Mayor Bill Purcell’s tenure. Current Sounds owners, MFP Baseball, prefer this same site.

The City Paper will have more details after the report is officially released.

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33 Comments on this post:

By: bfra on 12/1/11 at 5:46

After reading reports from ALL the other studies, taxpayers have paid for, I could have told them that for $100,00. Thanks for nothing Karl!

By: JeffF on 12/1/11 at 6:46

if true this will cause angst for the developers who bought the Sounds in order to get at all that free riverfront land. Screw what is best for the long term interests of the team and minor league baseball fans, their business interests lie in the selling of mixed use development. The less they have to pay for the land and amenities and the more they receive in TIFs the better.

By: Kosh III on 12/1/11 at 6:53

You are sooooooooo wrong.

We paid these "consultants" $163,000, not to mention the 60,000 annual salary Metro pays Jimmy Fyke to sit on his butt for 19.5 hours per week to do this crap.
Not to mention the hundreds of thousand we just spent under Purcell trying to find a way to give welfare to the rich.

By: Loner on 12/1/11 at 7:56

More bread and circus, to benefit politicians, at taxpayer's expense.

Minor league baseball is moribund...professional baseball itself is an endangered animal. Google is withering on the vine.

This Sounds Stadium idea is being forced down the taxpayer's throats...the idea has been repeatedly rejected by the taxpayers...but kickback seeking politicians and land speculators just won't let the idea die a natural death. Let the Sounds die in peace....or let them take a hike.

Kill this wasteful and stupid idea, once and for all.

By: bfra on 12/1/11 at 7:56

Kosh III - How am I wrong? I don't have the exact number, but there have already been several studies, paid for by taxpayer's. Were they not reliable, if not, why were they paid for? Just to pad some good ole boy's pocket? So, what did this study show that all the others didn't?

By: Kosh III on 12/1/11 at 8:11

bfra sorry
I was trying to be humorous, sorry it doesn't translate well in print. The point being we've spent much more than a mere 100,000. arrgghhhh

By: Kosh III on 12/1/11 at 8:15

If the Sounds want a new stadium, they can pay for it themselves. Isn't that the CAPITALIST way? Right serr? yogi?

What's wrong with Greer? They just spent a few million to improve it, it's still almost downtown, it has plenty of parking, which is not the case with the thermal location.

If the Sounds will produce soooooooooo much additional income with restaurants etc, why has it not happened in all the years up to now? I mean, look at all the bars and restaurants and stuff that have sprung up next to the Titans playpen.
O, there are none. "Never mind."

By: bfra on 12/1/11 at 8:23

KoshIII - Got it! I agree with you 100%, about Greer. If the owners want a new stadium, cough up the money!

By: tenn.Big Dog on 12/1/11 at 8:28

Tenn. Big Dog ******there again our Yankee Carpet Bagger (DEAN) is in the taxpayers pockets. He just keeps on Spending and we just keep letting him. Doesn't he realize that there is a major recession going on?

By: BigPapa on 12/1/11 at 8:30

I have to agree with Kosh on one thing, we've had the NFL and hockey in Nashville for a long time and it doesnt do anything to help promote jobs or redevelopment. The area around LP is as big as a dump now as it was before.

Dont invest in sports teams, invest in things that actually make your city a nice place to live and raise a family. (Schools, roads, police...just to name a few "luxuries".)

By: Kosh III on 12/1/11 at 8:54


I'd add sidewalks, greenways and parks to that. It's for everyone and doesn't cost a huge extra fee every time someone uses it, unlike LP or the Arena.

By: BigPapa on 12/1/11 at 9:02

I'll add that I am VERY glad that the thermal site isn't in play. That piece of property is much much too valuable and too visible to be wasted on minor league baseball.

By: Left-of-Local on 12/1/11 at 11:02

Blahblahblah... beat up on Dean... whine, cry, piss, moan. Same old comments. You know... cuz NOT studying and planning has done us SO much good on the ratty, inconsistent, unattractive, mismatched, disjointed and boneheaded stuff we have already.


I think the old Sulphur Dell site would be very good. Historic significance, continued revitalization of an already-in-progress area plan, and potential distribution of traffic away from already-overcrowded centers, not to mention a reasonable destination on the shuttle route. Looking forward to learning more.

By: yucchhii on 12/1/11 at 11:50

it's funny how y'all won't bitch about things when the DIShonerable mayor karl DINK takes advantage of you through your taxes and does things with it that nobody wants, BUT if you see some homeless people who are doing nothing except sit on a wall, y'all wanna get up tight and call metro because they are THERE! Though I understand SOME homeless people NEED to get run off, but there are a LOT OF HOMELESS who have done NOTHING TO YOU EXCEPT RESPECT YOU, BUT THEY ARE THE ONES WHO GET YOUR CRAP!! This thing with the stadium is BS and y'all KNOW IT!! BUT YOU ARE ALL WHAT I CALL "BUTT KISSERS"!! "Ohh, Mr. Dean, do iI have pretty eyes? Shall I get down on my knees and kiss your butt?" This is EXACTLY WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING!!! DON'T LIKE IT? I GUESS THE TRUTH HURTS, DOESN'T IT??

By: Kosh III on 12/1/11 at 11:51

We have already studied this several times. How much more study can there be aside from throwing work to cronies.

As to Sulfur Dell, there is one huge problem. Sitting right in the middle is the State's Data Center(compters, statewide printing etc etc) and it will probably cost
millions to move it.
however, this is also the location of huge parking lots for state employees and this
could be shared with the Sounds---provided the Sounds pay EVERY PENNY themselves.

By: JayBee56 on 12/1/11 at 11:57

This mayor apparently doesn't listen to the taxpayers. Anyone for a recall?

By: TITAN1 on 12/1/11 at 1:15

He must be pleasing the majority of the voters, he got re-elected.

By: on 12/1/11 at 1:20

Wait till you see the new property taxes. I'm in for the recall.

By: Jughead on 12/1/11 at 2:07

Holy crud--over 100k for this stupid study?

Metro's hiring of "consultants" is one big scam.

What a dang waste of taxpayer money.

By: Jughead on 12/1/11 at 2:08

Spend,spend,spend...someone else's money.

That's why we have government, doncha know.

By: bfra on 12/1/11 at 2:09

Titan1 - With over 200,000 registered voters and Karl only got a little over 50,000 votes, he definitely was not elected by the majority of the voters. Sad to say, the majority evidently were just to lazy to get out & vote.

By: bfra on 12/1/11 at 2:10

make that too lazy!

By: MusicCity615 on 12/1/11 at 3:57


What makes you think that if the 150k registered voters who didn't vote did, they would not vote for Dean? Dean's 2nd term election was a landslide. For a reason.

I want the redevelopment of the East Bank.

By: bfra on 12/2/11 at 3:32

MusicCity615 - Your "I want", sounds like words right out of Karl's mouth. Are you trying to build a golden monument to yourself, also? If so, then roll out "your" money, taxpayer's are taxed to the hilts now, thanks to Karl.

By: MusicCity615 on 12/2/11 at 8:43

Do yourself a favor and look at reports for peer city's tax burden on its citizens. Nashville is at the bottom compared to Charlotte, Austin, Indianapolis, Birmingham, etc.

When has Dean raised your property taxes bfra? Quit whining and moaning. You also refused to acknowledge my FACT that Dean's reelection was a landslide, and for a reason... And before you say I'm some Dean crony (whatever that means) understand that I have absolutely zero financial connections/benefits to Dean. I believe he is an incredible mayor and proud of what he is doing.

By: bfra on 12/2/11 at 8:55

MusicCity615 - Your idea of a landslide is far different from mine. When over 3/4 of the registered voters don't turn out, I don't consider that a landslide for anyone. This isn't any of the Cities you mentioned, especially Birmingham, what is so great about Birmingham, the smell? Why is Karl striving to change Nashville to be like one of them. If he isn't proud of Nashville, he should step down & move. He probably hasn't figured how to get around the fact that the taxpayer get to vote on a property tax increase & I am sure he has his clowns working on that. BTW, I have some great ocean front property in KY, interested?

By: MusicCity615 on 12/2/11 at 9:45

bfra, quit turning around what I said into something else. Read my statements, I never said I wanted Nashville to become birmingham??? HA.

Yes, our views of a landslide are different, i.e. yours is incorrect. 3/4 of Nashville might not have voted, but you cannot assume that if everyone who did not vote, did, they would vote for whomever the other candidates were. And it certainly means something when the 1/4 of people that did care enough voted for Dean.

We live in a republic, get used to it. Dean was elected, then reelected by the people. The people have spoken, Dean is our mayor. If you don't like it, move.

By: bfra on 12/2/11 at 9:50

MusicCity615 - Then why did you list Birmingham in your comparisons? If a majority of registered voters turned out & Karl had got a majority of those votes, that would be a landslide. Still have that oceanfront proberty in KY!

By: MusicCity615 on 12/2/11 at 10:54

Comparing Nashville to a peer city like Birmingham is in now way saying I want Nashville to be Birmingham. Ignorance is bliss, bfra. Please move to Kentucky and complain there.

By: bfra on 12/2/11 at 11:04

Oh, I would rather stay here and keep voting against our corrupt politicians and working to convience others to do the same. So I'll still let you have that oceanfront property in KY, cheap, and even throw in a bucket of sand. BTW, you didn't respond on the tax increase & voter's options.

By: MusicCity615 on 12/2/11 at 11:26

I did respond to your tax increase speculation... Where is the tax increase?

Keep voting... you were one of around 14 in total that voted against Dean in his LANDSLIDE reelection.

You think Dean's corrupt? How so? Because he was elected by the people?

By: fdanshep on 12/2/11 at 11:29

I live in Sumner County and the East Bank is more convenient for me so I would appreciate it if you folks in Davidson put it there.

By: bfra on 12/3/11 at 11:49

MusicCity615 - Seeing that Tower Investments won a victory in court, the 25 million to the Titan's stadium, ? money to the Predators, money for Hickory Hollow purchase & don't forget the Country Club Karl wants to buy, where is all this money coming from? Is he going to start a new baseball stadium on land not yet purchased and then stick the taxpayers with paying for that, also?