Burch: Barely human

Thursday, October 4, 2012 at 10:05pm
By Michael R. Burch

In a recent article for The Contributor, a Nashville monthly newspaper that employs homeless and formerly homeless people as vendors, a street-seller who identified herself as Jeanette B. recounted how a customer said something ugly to her and, rather than just letting it go, she replied, “Hey, I am a human being.” His response was a sneering, devastating “barely.”

Here is what Jeanette B. wrote about her feelings: “I cried a little — because he’s right. In the eyes of Metro I am an eyesore, someone to harass for trying to do simple things like sleep. To businesses, I am someone to ask to leave, to tell that I am not allowed to use their restrooms.”

But of course the bigot was not in any way “right.”

Here in Tennessee we are seeing such bigotry not only on our streets and in our restaurants, but also in the halls of legislative power and even in conservative churches that constantly deride President Obama and Democrats for trying to “do too much” to help the poor, sick and elderly.

And now we have a man — I have come to think of him as Bishop Romney — who is a step from the presidency and in my opinion represents the worst of all three worlds: business, political and religious.

There seem to be two very different versions of Christianity at work in the world today. One looks to the good example of Jesus Christ in his earthly ministry and operates with compassion for the less fortunate. A much darker version of Christianity seems intent on separating the wheat from the chaff, and sweeping the chaff away, to make life easier for the affluent. This darker version of Christianity is chauvinistic, autocratic and demands conformity to its narrow-minded, Dark Age vision of how “good people” should look, act and probably smell.

Willard Mitt Romney once served as a bishop of the Mormon church. I do not want to put his faith on trial, especially when I see the same sort of bigotry in other ultra-conservative churches such as the Southern Baptists, who are headquartered here in Nashville. But please allow me to point out three things about Bishop Romney that make me think he is unfit to be elected dogcatcher, much less president:

(1) He said that 47 percent of Americans feel “entitled” to housing, food and health care. This suggests that in a land of plenty he thinks nearly half the population is not entitled to a decent life, since a decent life requires housing, food and healthcare.

(2) He toured a Chinese factory where 20,000 girls and young women lived and toiled in a factory complete with guard towers and barbed wire. Rather than reporting this outrage to our government and the American public, it seems Romney invested millions of dollars in the Chinese company that owned the factory, at one time owning nearly 10 percent of its stock, before finally cashing out.

(3) Later, as his Bain Capital group aggressively closed American factories, outsourcing American jobs to low-wage countries, it seems Bain-owned companies may have adopted the methods Romney saw being used in China. For instance, Bain earned $242 million by pressuring Dade International to take on massive debt in order to buy back Bain’s shares in the company. The result was large-scale job elimination. According to a Huffington Post report, some fired workers would “get an hour’s notice before being shown the door.” Fred Gregory, who assisted a plant closing in Miami, said that he stopped eating at the cafeteria because, “I didn’t want to see the women crying. You could walk in there and hear a pin drop. You could see the emptiness. It was just huddled-up sheep. It was pathetic. It was heartbreaking, heart-wrenching. You just want to hug them.” According to Gregory, the plant added higher fencing and concertina wire. Every day, a pair of security guards would check his backseat and trunk to make sure he wasn’t stealing office supplies. “It was all so well orchestrated,” he said, “and so evil.”

I do not want to see such suffering here in America, so that the affluent can become even richer at the expense of ordinary Janes and Joes. If Bishop Romney can see such things in China, without offering a word of protest, and do such things to American workers, without an ounce of remorse, what might he do to us, once he has the power of the American presidency in his hands?

Is it the street vendors and factory workers who are barely human, or their heartless overseers like Bishop Romney?

Michael R. Burch is a Nashville-based editor and publisher of Holocaust poetry and other “things literary” at www.thehypertexts.com.

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By: brrrrk on 10/5/12 at 3:04

"Crap, I dropped my monocle in the mashed potatoes!!" - Raspy

By: Captain Nemo on 10/5/12 at 3:12

Man finds monocle in mashed potatoes and takes restaurant for a bundle.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/5/12 at 3:22

I'm going to call it a day.


By: Mike Burch on 10/5/12 at 3:29

It seems that now that the fact-checkers have chimed in, Romney is no longer the clear winner in many people's eyes. Perhaps some Americans still care about basic things like truth and math.

Will Mr. Magical Mittens persuade Americans that he can make $7 trillion dollars vanish, with a wave of his magical wand? Where will the $5 trillion in tax cuts and the $2 trillion in higher military spending go ... to the billpayers of the Land of Oz?

Perhaps this latest flip-flop will be the one that broke the Cayman Island beach bum's back.

By: brrrrk on 10/5/12 at 3:50

Mike Burch said

"Will Mr. Magical Mittens persuade Americans that he can make $7 trillion dollars vanish, with a wave of his magical wand? Where will the $5 trillion in tax cuts and the $2 trillion in higher military spending go ... to the billpayers of the Land of Oz?"

Speaking of that $2 trillion for the military, I just read where, of the 220 large and mid-size military facilities in the country, 34% of them are located in the South proper.... and if you include Texas that percentage jumps to 45%. How's about that......

By: yogiman on 10/5/12 at 4:40

I agree Mike,

Truthful and honest Americans think that is the way our government should be. So why are they telling us so many lies and giving our money to enemies?

Could it be because our politicians are the masters of the liars and thieves?

By: Ask01 on 10/5/12 at 4:56

I try not to wish any ill upon people, even if they are deserving beyond any doubt, so as not to generate any bad karma to waylay me, but I cannot help but speculate on how these who so look down upon those below them would react if they found themselves in the positions of those they so seem to despise.

If the well to do suddenly found themselves unemployed, penniless, homeless ans dependent on handouts to survive, would they consider themselves unduly entitled?

If businessmen and women were suddenly unemployed and seeking a job, would they enjoy being told they weren't looking hard enough or to lower their expectations? How about being scrutinized by everyone as if they were casing the joint for a heist?

I wonder how the rich, powerful, and wealthy would fare tossed out of their job to increase profits, then evicted from their home because they couldn't afford the mortgage and being told they were foolish for buying more home than they could afford, and called leeches on society for seeking aid?

Just wondering. Perhaps more people should consider those possibilities, especially those who place profits over people and their own greed ahead of the greater good and general welfare.

Willard certainly didn't think twice about gutting companies, exporting jobs, and giving contracts to overseas businesses operating with little better than slave labor.

I wonder what he will do if he gains the White House to turn a profit?

By: yogiman on 10/5/12 at 7:18


I guess it's the way people are raised in their childhood that reflects the way they live their adult lives. I was taught to respect everyone for who they were, not what they looked like because you never knew if you might get in their position. I've lived with that thought all of my life.

I've been helped in my life and I've helped others. I've been ridiculed at times (as I am being now by many in this group who don't even know me) and I just consider the source and ignore it. There's more fools in this world than one can imagine and I've known many different kids of people in my life; some good, some bad and some that 'ain't worth the powder it would take to blow them to hell'.

Everyone has their own personality and It doesn't take long to determine what kind of person they are.

Regarding Romney; no one of this group has the slightest idea what kind of man he is. They simply have their "idea" without knowledge. They're blaming him for "making money". I question them; don't you work by the laws to make money? Can you prove he didn't?

They condemn him for buying companies and selling them putting the employees out of work. They have no idea what condition that company was in when he bought it. But as a man who would give the government more money than legally owed tax wise and gave millions to his church and charities, that makes him a NGSOB to them?

If any of them, including you, can come up with an idea for a better situation than we have now, I'd be glad to listen to it. But learn how to commend, it's always better than condemning.

I've been condemned and ridiculed for my claim on Obama's legal eligibility even though I've offered all kinds knowledge on the issue (especially his autobiography), but none of my condemners have offered one iota of knowledge that I'm wrong.

Let's see what happens by Nov. 6, shall we?

By: Mike Burch on 10/6/12 at 12:06


I agree. Bishop Romney has a long track record of profiting from the misfortune of other people. Now it seems he wants to give the richest Americans an even larger share of the nation's wealth, in the form of gigantic tax cuts they don't need, while refusing to specify how he will keep those tax cuts from devastating or destroying the middle and lower income classes. He wants us to trust him, but his track record suggests that he will always favor people like himself.

By: Captain Bringdown on 10/6/12 at 3:22


To keep the tired old birther chestnut alive shows a complete lack of respect for the constitutional blessing of reasonable discourse. How many flipping times does a addicted doubter like yourself have to have it proven to you that those "issues (?)" are bogus in the least and at best a symptom of terminal denial. One might suppose alternative motives for your refusal to accept President Obama in a position of importance and accomplishment that you would never aspire much less achieve. Is there another objection to President Obama you would like to share?

By: bfra on 10/6/12 at 6:23

Good morning "Good" Captain: Too much logic for trolls to understand!

By: Loner on 10/6/12 at 7:04

Good morning, Nashville.

On my way to the local farmer's market this fine Saturday morning...but first, I just had to share this image of the lone one....if one Google's "the most interesting uu", using the Images search feature, you can find it.

Here's the image location:


The photo was taken last month, during the Vintage Car Race Weekend, in Watkins Glen, NY.....I was "posing" with a glass of champagne, while sitting in a wicker chair, inside a beautiful cedar-wood gazebo....this is at the Idlewilde mansion, now an upscale bed & breakfast....My minister's wife took the photo off of a Facebook Page and added the text....we are using it as a semi-tongue-in-cheek recruiting poster.


By: Captain Nemo on 10/6/12 at 7:58

Captain Bringdown, we now have a troll off button and when the troll appears we just (click).
It less ware and tare on the karma.

By: yogiman on 10/6/12 at 11:01

Good question, Captain Bringdown, and no, there isn't another objection to the man sitting in the Oval Office other than his legality of sitting there. There is only 3 requirements for that office: being a natural born citizen, 35 years of age and having lived in the USA 14 years before elected to that office. And those requirements are for the vice-President, also.

So I will continue to ask: why does he refuse to prove he's eligible?

My questions remains: Is he a natural born American citizen? If so, why doesn't he simply offer certified evidence to prove it? Or don't you know the requirements to be a natural born citizen.

If he was born in Hawaii as he has claimed, why can't the Hawaiian governor provide a certified copy of his birth certificate? And be aware, the governor was an old family friend of his grandparents.

Or was he born in Kenya as he advertised his birth for 16 years?

Wouldn't you like to know who in the hell he is?

One more point, Captain Bringdown; why did congress allow it to happen? And why are they allowing it to continue?

Would you be ashamed to prove anything in your favor? Would you not make effort to block information if you would be proven guilty?

By: yogiman on 10/6/12 at 11:19

Captain, BringDown, may I make the same offer to you that I've made to all of the Obama fans? It's a simple request: Just offer proof Obama is in that office legally and I'll apologize and shut up. But no one has offered one iota of proof, or even an offer of any evidence.

Can you explain to me why Obama advertised as being born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii for 16 years then changed is "birthplace" to Hawaii in 2007 when he entered the Presidential race? Sorry, I didn't think so. Sorry for asking.

By: BenDover on 10/6/12 at 11:27

Cool pic, Loner.

By: BenDover on 10/6/12 at 11:28

Stay thirsty my friend.

By: yogiman on 10/6/12 at 1:08


May I ask you a question. You can only seem to find fault with Mitt Romney for his making of money. Tell me; what would you do if you could afford it, and you had an opportunity to buy a company that was having a misfortune and wanted top sell. And you felt you could reverse that problem and make money off of it. Would you turn the company down that you felt you could make money off of? Don't fib now. Was Romney that much smarter than you?

You mention trust in the man if he wins the race. Am I wrong in my guessing you know more about Mitt Romney in his run for office than you knew about Barack Obama in his run?

So what made you accept Obama as a man of trust when you didn't even know who he was (i.e. His legitimate name)?

Is he Barack Obama or is he still Barry Soetoro? I don't know, do you? If you do, where did you get the information? He sure hasn't let it be known he changed his name back to Obama.

By: Mike Burch on 10/6/12 at 2:08


I don't have a problem with Mitt Romney being rich. I own a business and am probably in the top 1% myself, or close to it, depending on how my business would be valued if I chose to sell it.

My problem with Bishop Romney is the WAY he chose to make his money. In the early days he seemed to be an investor, and that's fine. But it seems Bishop Romney found an easier, safer way to make money. Rather than investing in a company, he would use "leverage" to take it over, then saddle the company with debt so that he could get all his money back and more, in the form of gigantic "dividends."

At that point he was no longer an investor and had no money at risk, but he controlled the company.

Then the plant closings and job liquidations would begin. In order to pay off the massive debts incurred to give Bishop Romney a risk-free, guaranteed profit, plants, workers and entire companies sometimes had to be liquidated. The jobs would go to China, the workers to unemployment lines, and Romney laughing to his tax-free Cayman Island bank and 137 offshore shell corporations.

Now Bishop Romney wants to do an LBO on the US. He will transfer even more of the nation's wealth to the top 1%, and saddle the rest of us with even more debt. Then we will have to start liquidating our fellow citizens, under the "leadership" of Bishop Romney.

Whether President Obama is an American, Kenyan or Martian, at least he is willing to stand up and fight for the right of ALL Americans to a fair deal.

It's a shame that you are so focused on a piece of paper that you can't see the larger issue. Bishop Romney is an expert at transferring wealth from ordinary Americans to his super-rich patrons. Now he is a step from the White House.

Did you see how he treated Jim Lehrer, the elderly moderator? That's how he'll soon be treating 47% of Americans, or around 150 million people, who are not up to his elitist standards.

By: Mike Burch on 10/6/12 at 2:19


Great picture!

If I ever choose to enter a church again, it will probably be a Universalist church. But right now I prefer reading Whitman and Blake, and listening to songs like "Imagine."

On my bookshelf in my office I have a copy of the Baptist Hymnal, published here in Nashville. The last hymn number is 666. (No kidding!) But on the back cover my mother wrote in the words of one of her favorite hymns, which was written by my favorite poet, William Blake:

JERUSALEM (from 'Milton')

by: William Blake

AND did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?

And did the Countenance Divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among these dark Satanic Mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire!

I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land.

That's a pretty good battle hymn for reformers, I think, to "not cease from mental fight." And of course Blake's pen was his sword ... a formidable weapon in the right hands.

By: Loner on 10/6/12 at 3:14

Thank you, Ben & Mike....yes, 'twas unabashed vanity, that made me post it....I can now brag, that I have written and performed a hymn, in a church and I am officially, "the most interesting uu in the world"....not bad for a heretic.

Sounds like Blake was some sort of Christian Zionist...or Zionist Christian...the Mormons, of course, thought they were building Jerusalem on the shores of The Great Salt Lake.

Christianity is heretical Judaism practiced by Gentiles....Islam falls into that category too... It's mass hysteria.

The Great Crusades were a series of holy wars, in which two groups of anti-Semitic Jewish wannabes fought for control of the "Holy Land". Today, the Jews and the Christians have joined forces, to defeat the Mohammedans and liberate Palestine.

One can understand that folks were ignorant and gullible in the 11th, 12th and 13th centuries, but it is difficult to understand how these ancient faith-based feuds still have the power to drive human beings mad in the 21st century. We have progressed, from swords, spears and shields to nuclear weapons, but our species has not advanced one bit spiritually.

By: Ask01 on 10/6/12 at 3:47

Just for the sake of starting a discussion or perhaps argument, since the issue of Jews, Christians, the Holy Land and such has been brought up, consider that Jesus, as far as I can determine, was a practicing Jew. Those who followed him were also Jews.

He is, according to articles I have read, even considered by both present day Jews and Muslims as a great teacher, just not, as the Christians have deemed him, the Son of God.

Is it too much of a stretch to postulate that Christianity, for all the ritual and form setting the faith apart is actually little more than a break away Jewish sect? A very radical reform sect to be sure, but since the namesake of the faith itself, Christ, was Jewish, am I too far off base?

I'm sure such a suggestion would drop a huge meadow muffin in some folks punch bowl, and generate enormous amounts of hate mail, but I've mused on this point for some time, and believe a case could be put forth.


By: Mike Burch on 10/6/12 at 3:53


I noticed the same things. Romney's insensitive, bullying treatment of the elderly moderator was disgusting, in my opinion. My favorite moment of the debate was when Romany said something like "Let's discuss this" and Jim Lehrer said "Let's not."

By: yogiman on 10/6/12 at 4:13

There's an old saying, Mike; you'll never know until it happens. Did you know Barack Obama was going to put this nation deeper into debt when he went in office? Or did you think he would put us back on top of the globe?

By: Ask01 on 10/6/12 at 4:19

I believe Willard is so accustomed to having an army of "yes men" all following so close they are in mortal danger of a broken neck if he turns quickly, any denial of his will probably drives him crazy inside.

The very idea of this egotistical person being in charge is very frightening.

By: yogiman on 10/6/12 at 4:43

Different subject, but heck, this is a weekend phase.

Much admiration seems being placed for Obama. Does he deserve it? The recent data I've read notes more than 1,000 American soldiers have lost their lives in the last 27 months in Afghanistan, which is more than the combined total of the prior nine years. Thirty died in August.

I read disgust is growing in the military because of the military incompetence and disrespect from Obama. He hasn't said anything honoring our soldiers, but he ordered the flag flown at half mast for the Sikhs that were killed.

It seems to have been more important for him to campaign or play golf or take a "short" vacation than to honor our soldiers. I'm beginning to wonder how many veterans will vote for him because of the way he sees our military.

By: yogiman on 10/6/12 at 4:56

Romney egotistical? Gimma a break, Ask01. Your man Obama is so egotistical he has not accepted one iota of error since being in office. It seems like all of his mistakes were Bush's fault. Will he keep Bush in office with himself as his fault recipient?

By: Mike Burch on 10/6/12 at 5:52


If Romney ever stopped on a dime, all the brown-nosers would end up you-know-where!.

Romney thinks his s*** doesn't stink, but that may be because he has so many people breathing the fumes.

By: yogiman on 10/6/12 at 7:52

I'm amazed, Mike.

You say Romney supporters would get their noses browned if he stopped on a dime.

Tell me, how far up Obama's a$$ did you jam your nose when he became your favorite man in office?

And you say you're in that financial 1% category... and it's OK the way you gained your money but Romney was wrong. My question is: Did he gain his wealth legally or was he a damn crook that should be considered a criminal and prosecuted?

By: yogiman on 10/6/12 at 8:05


By: yogiman on 10/6/12 at 8:06

Sorry, I fired a blank that time.

By: Mike Burch on 10/7/12 at 1:24


I think Bishop Romney did things that are morally wrong, such as investing millions of dollars in a Chinese factory, even after he toured the compound and saws thousands of young girls working in a sweatshop that had guard towers and barbed wire like a Nazi concentration camp.

I don't know if he did anything illegal, but he has a long history of profiting from the suffering of American workers and shipping their jobs to China.

In my book, that makes him unfit to be president.

Obama is not my "favorite" man for the job, but he's a damn sight better than Bishop Romney.

By: Ask01 on 10/7/12 at 3:10

Mike, I have a theory I would like to share and ask your opinion.

For some reason, we have lost a quality of empathy in this country. I'm not sure the catalyst for the change, but I do recognize the results.

We often have, I believe, situations arise where certain behaviors are legally right, but morally wrong.

I can cite numerous examples, but for the sake of brevity, to cut directly to the point, Willard may have been legally right investing in a foreign company which treats workers as near slave labor, with sub standard wages and squalid, dangerous working conditions, but I for one feel this is morally wrong.

Slashing jobs, putting people out of work, then posting record profits, awarding already overcompensated executives obscene bonuses is, sadly, legal, but to any average person morally reprehensible.

To gloss over this as unimportant, as merely business, reflects a true lack of human concern and any empathy for fellow human beings.

A truly pathetic situation, in my opinion, is when average workers, representing little more than expendable assets for these people, blindly support them in their quest for public office, when they would be among the first fired, with no remorse or concern.

Just my thoughts.

By: Loner on 10/7/12 at 6:20

Good morning, again.....Nashville. I assume that most of Nashville is in church right abut now or getting ready to go...just thought I'd chime in before going to my own church...a Universailst Unitarian church in Albion, NY.


Now that I have been dubbed, "The most interesting UU in the world"; I gotta start attending on a more regular basis....or not.

We are a dogma-free faith....no hell....no sacraments....no kneelers....we have nice soft seats....a marvelous Johnson pipe organ....Tiffany stained glass windows....cool people in the pews and in the pulpit....if you have a UU church nearby, check it out...we do not proselytize or believe in missionary work...nobody will strong arm you into joining.

And for those who missed it, check out the "most interesting UU" right here:


Yes, this IS part of my 15 minutes of fame & glory...and yes, I am milking it for all it's worth......stay spiritually thirsty, my friends.

By: yogiman on 10/7/12 at 6:48


You seem to be able to criticize only one man for his way of making his wealth. Is he in that category alone in the way he has made his wealth? Are you such a "better" man you live your life so much more "honestly" than he?

It seems you like to condemn those you don't like, but you don't like the ones you like to be condemned by someone who doesn't agree with you.

You seem to think; "Don't do as I do, just do as I think you should do".

By: Loner on 10/7/12 at 6:48


By: Ask01 on 10/7/12 at 7:05

Good for you, Loner.

I mean that most sincerely. Far too many people practice what I term "Checklist Religion." They go to the church, temple, mosque of their choice, perform all the rites required by their faith, be that prayer, song, tithes, or other public affirmations of an affected belief, then declare checklist complete for another week. Most often, if the manner in which they treat others is an indication, rarely if ever giving their faith or diety of choice another thought until they once again take up the burden of trudging to their house of worship once again.

Many go through all the motions and take away nothing but a sense of having done ones duty.

You seem to enjoy the experience and I am happy for you.

By: Rasputin72 on 10/7/12 at 7:11

ASKO1.......I have asked myself this question you pose since my late teens

There probably is no good answer,but there is no question in my mind that there are far too many people being born that should never have been born in the first place.

The world is too competive today to have a populace that is totally dependent on the productive class for their meager and ill-defining existence.

By: Ask01 on 10/7/12 at 8:00

Mike, I am constantly amazed at the shallowness of some people.

Obviously, there are many 'wannabe' slave masters today, but only one campaigning for the highest elected office in America.

Since Willard has made his fortune on the backs of, and at the economic expense of others, the natural tendency is to focus on him.

To the other poster, the lazy and idle rich, totally dependent on the labor of others, have for far too long ridden on the backs of the productive working classes, extracting more work for less pay, and I suspect the bill for such service is long overdue.

By: yogiman on 10/7/12 at 9:01


You are constantly condemning Mitt Romney for sending businesses overseas, but have not condemned anyone else.

I have asked who the president was when the jobs in the US began going overseas, but I've received no answer. If you, or your fellow posters don't know, or just don't want to admit, it was Bill Clinton.

Me believes Billy Boy made a pile of money when that happened.

By: Rasputin72 on 10/7/12 at 9:22

ASK01...........I could not agree more. I am not only amazed at how shallow one must become in order tto present his or her case before the tribunal of success but how many people are born with the inability and the genetic makeup to compete in this world.

In any case you are absolutely 100% correct in that the day of reckoning is upon the productive class. The election in 2008 of a complete and utter socialist signaled the end of a legitimate democracy in the United States. No matter how wailing and gnashing of teeth the Republicans (who represent the productive class) bring forth there will be a re-election of Barack Hussein Obama.

The majority of Americans are the 47% and the underemployed. They are going to have their day as the United States eases into a country of mongrels and diversity. This can only lead to insurrection.

The rules will change but human history has always shown that every civilization has always had a class of people who live on a higher rung than the commoners and those just passing through.

In the meantime the bill is coming due but I doubt you are going to like what comes after what I call a "pseudo rennaisance"

You just cannot have a healthy country run by those that are dependent upon a class of people that no longer exist in numbers large enough to keep commoners afloat.

In the meantime, enjoy what you have been wishing for. In a democracy "the majority rules." at least as long as the country is a democracy.

By: yogiman on 10/7/12 at 11:00


Going by his claims, Obama was not officially elected in 2008, and he cannot be in 2012. Oh, he may usurp the office again but he can never be Constitutionally eligible for it.

But Obama should be the least of our worry because he's only one man. Our biggest concern is the "politicians" that allowed it to happen in 2008.

Didn't anyone in the political field (especially Congress) look into his background when he [entered] the race in 2007? I haven't found out yet, but did he change his place of birth before or after he announced he was entering the race?

For 16 years, until he "entered the "race", he advertised his birth place as Kenya. So, if he was born in Kenya from 1991 to 2007... before he was "born in Hawaii', where was he "born" from 1961 to 1991?

By: yogiman on 10/7/12 at 12:42

Interesting. It tells you a lot.


By: Captain Nemo on 10/7/12 at 1:21


By: Ask01 on 10/7/12 at 2:47



By: yogiman on 10/7/12 at 6:03

It won't be much longer, children, until you'll learn your ignorance. That is, unless you're co-communists with Barry.

By: Ask01 on 10/8/12 at 5:18