Burch: Haslam and the Holy Rollers

Thursday, December 13, 2012 at 10:05pm
By Michael R. Burch

Bill Haslam continues to have high approval ratings — 68 percent overall in a recent Vanderbilt University poll. Haslam is popular with independents (62 percent) and Democrats (60 percent). So unlike reactionary right-wingers who seem to hate moderates and liberals on sight, the majority of Democrats and independents are able to appreciate reasonably sane Republicans. (During the most recent Democratic national convention, Bill Clinton pointed out that he never hated his Republican detractors the way they hated him.)

The Tennessee General Assembly, however, is another story, failing to earn the approval of the majority of Democrats (44 percent) and independents (49 percent). And that’s no wonder, as Mother Jones recently ranked Tennessee’s legislature dead last among the 50 states.

Mother Jones — which sarcastically called its rankings “purely scientific” — suggested that our state legislature is either first or last on the “crazy” meter, depending on whether one prefers to live in an insane asylum.

The magazine mentioned a sex education bill approved this year that referred to “gateway body parts.” This was presumably a blushing attempt to avoid terms like “sex organs” and “genitals.” Also cited were a failed bill to fine citizens for using restrooms that don’t match their birth certificate sex and a conspiracy theory email forwarded by a state legislator that said President Obama planned to stage a fake assassination attempt for political gain.

But this is only the tip of the proverbial iceberg. Tennessee’s legislature is packed with Holy Rollers who seem intent on creating a perfect storm of “thou shalt not” morality bills.

Many Republicans who claim to believe fervently in two things — Jesus Christ and a much smaller, less intrusive government — in reality act nothing like Christ and create bill after nonsensical bill in an attempt to legislate their medieval “morality” on the masses.

As Nashville Rep. Mike Turner, chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, recently said, “They’re preoccupied with sex up here. We’re about ready to put the turbans on and put the women in burkas, if we keep going at this rate.”

Haslam has also criticized the bizarre bills emanating from the suspiciously Taliban-like reactionaries now occupying Capitol Hill.

But the Holy Rollers are undeterred and hence we have a steady stream of “no hand-holding” and “don’t say gay” and anti-evolution bills that make Tennessee the laughingstock of the nation and the foil of late-night comedians.

And then there are guns. According to the Bible, Jesus said “blessed are the peacemakers” and “turn the other cheek.” But the Holy Rollers continue to demand the right for citizens to carry loaded weapons into bars and restaurants that serve alcohol — an obviously combustible mix.

Now they want guns in parks, parking lots and universities. And they’re not satisfied with Colts and Magnums. In American bigger is better. So the next logical steps, so to speak, will probably be assault weapons in high schools, grade schools, kindergartens, pre-schools, Sunday schools and maternity wards.

Where the legislature’s madness will end, only God knows.

Michael R. Burch is a Nashville-based editor and publisher of Holocaust poetry and other “things literary” at www.thehypertexts.com.

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158 Comments on this post:

By: Captain Nemo on 12/14/12 at 2:06

Mike Burch I like you And your column, but if you ever address yogi a again I will stop read or having farther contact with you. We are in the attempting to break our addiction of laughing at the old troll.

Thank you.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/14/12 at 2:17

Now that I have that burst of anger out in the open, I will attempt to say it nicer. We are trying to break the yogi habit and I would appreciate that you not wave his name on this site. Now saying that I will have nothing to do with you if you decide to continue debating with a mad man.

By: bfra on 12/14/12 at 2:27

The latest I just heard, 27 people dead, 18 of those are children. The shooter's mother was 1 of the dead & was a teacher at the school. This is total devastation & so sad. My heart goes out to all of the victums & their families.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/14/12 at 2:37

bfra, I read that he also killed his father in his house before going to the school. That's crazy enough, but why the 18 children? How did a mentally unstable person get a gun?

By: Loner on 12/14/12 at 2:38

Details are emerging about the shooting...apparently the shooter killed his mother, who was a teacher at the school, in addition to all the others...she was the primary target, I guess...an assault rifle was used.

Oddly enough, last night, I commented that the sun set at 4:20 in Hartford, CT, last evening....of course, it was just coincidental...but the shooting occurred only 45 miles from Hartford....very strange.

It's hard to imagine the grief that the parents of the dead kids are feeling...and the rage too....the NRA needs to put on its heels.....this shit has to cease.....too many law-abiding gun-owners are snapping....time to round up the firearms?

I hear the gun-nuts now, "Firearms are our guarantee that we can take back the government, if it gets out of control"... that canard is the usual reason given for the 2nd Amendment...to keep our government honest....or to resist invading armies.

Firearms would be of little use against the government's forces...and if our armed forces should fail to keep invaders out, personal firearms are not going to turn things around.

President Obama needs to seize the initiative and begin a serious rollback on "gun rights"...when rights are abused, you take them away...the abuse has gone on long enough....round up the guns!

By: Loner on 12/14/12 at 2:40

I did not hear about the shooter killing his dad....WTF set him off? We may never know.

By: bfra on 12/14/12 at 2:41

Nemo - It would please me if the only time I saw that name it was where it legally belongs. On the bear that tries to prevent fires.

By: bfra on 12/14/12 at 2:43

Loner - I contribute this alot to gun sellers, that don't care who they sell guns to, just so they get the money. They skirt or break the law at every turn to get the almight dollar.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/14/12 at 2:48

The mother of the suspected gunman was also among the dead at the school, a senior law enforcement official familiar with the investigation told CNN, while the suspect's brother was found dead in a residential location in Hoboken, New Jersey.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/14/us/connecticut-school-shooting/index.html

Now they are saying it was the brother.....

By: bfra on 12/14/12 at 2:53

Blanket - Media is clutching at every little bit of hearsay, trying to be the first to get it to the public. It will take several days for all of the real truths to come out. Wish those dear sweet children could have had an option of choice.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/14/12 at 2:55

That's true, bfra. Geez, those families will never see Christmas in the same light, will they. So incredibly sad.

By: Loner on 12/14/12 at 3:03

Bfra, like anything else, we hear the good reasons, not the real reasons...guns are good, because they offer us a means of self-defense, that's the good reason to own one....the real reason for mass gun ownership is to keep the gun industry healthy and growing....the military market is not enough, they want a strong civilian market for their deadly wares too....and they bribe lawmakers, just like the other special interests do....and the bribery is legal.....but this, sadly, is the grim result.

By: Loner on 12/14/12 at 3:20

I went to Mapquest and found this info on pertinent political contributions:

Industries :

Gun Control -
Anti-Guns...Contributions 07/01/10 - 06/30/12 = $5,350...6 Bill Positions during 112th Congress

Gun Rights -
Pro-Guns...Contributions 07/01/10 - 06/30/12 = $2,430,358...31 Bill Positions during 112th Congress

Source:
http://maplight.org/us-congress/interest

Using a Biblical metaphor: It's David versus Goliath... $5,350 versus $2,430,358.

As they say, money talks.

By: yogiman on 12/14/12 at 4:42

The last report I saw was 27 people including 18 children, gdifante. One of the victims was the gunman's mother who was a teacher in the school. He killed himself. The police were looking for his younger brother whom they suspected was "in it" with him. Also missing is his girlfriend and a friend of her's.

Just wondering: How many of these murder incidents have happened in the south these past few years? Since the south is being condemned so much , has here been more in the south than the north? How many? How often?

By: yogiman on 12/14/12 at 6:17

Loner,

You are one of the best at making ridiculous claims on this site. You're great about finding information so how about citing about one law abiding citizen who "snapped" and went on a kill spree.

The only things I have read about law abiding citizens in such situations was they stopped the killer.

By: yogiman on 12/14/12 at 6:49

d7,

My daughter is 51 years old. She is a mature sensible woman doing a damn good job raising her children. She was trained in the use of a gun as a child. All of my children were taught what a gun is, what it is to be used for and how to use it. How you all are raising your children is your problem. They are your, not mine. But I feel sorry for them being raised with your mental attitudes.

You people don't know me, but you think you know me like the palm of your hand. You're feel so superior mentally and I should think like you. You're entitled to your BS but I should stay off the site. Convince NCP.

I readily agree, you're superior to me on a computer but you have a long way to go to catch up with me on thinking rationally.

And by the way, gdiafante, no one feels worse than I on those children. I hate they won't have a great time in life as I have. But you can bet your ass if I had been there I would have automatically made any effort I could to stop the guy. If I had my gun in my pocket you could further bet your ass he would have been stopped as soon as I saw it happening.

By: yogiman on 12/14/12 at 8:55

Mike,

If you are as intelligent as you appear to be and you let [master] dumba$$ tell you who you can or shouldn't "talk to", I feel sorry for you for letting him (and them) become your masters.

Their attitude is like the government we have today, they feel they are your superiors and you should obey them.

Ignorant comments have been made about the America I've commented about growing up in. Well, the America I grew up in sure wasn't like the America you all grew up in and the America we have today.

We never thought about needing security guards in schools in the 30s and 40s. We went to school and minded our teachers or they whipped our a$$. And we boys sure didn't want to be sent to the principals office. He always whipped our a$$ harder then our teacher.

I'm fascinated they know so much about what they have no experience in.

By: Mike Burch on 12/15/12 at 2:12

Nemo,

Anyone who doesn't want to talk to Yogi can choose to ignore his posts or not reply to them, but as the writer of the articles it would be wrong for me to deny the opposition a voice. I hope you understand.

By: Mike Burch on 12/15/12 at 2:27

The murders of 27 educators and young students seem to unfortunately confirm what I wrote just a few hours before:

"So the next logical steps, so to speak, will probably be assault weapons in high schools, grade schools, kindergartens, pre-schools, Sunday schools and maternity wards."

The collusion of conservative Christianity with the gun lobby is turning schools into shooting galleries.

The Republican party has lost its mind, and pushes one idea after another to insane extremes. A gun kept at home for self defense may be reasonable. The "right" to carry loaded weapons into bars and parks and parking lots and schools is madness. The right to buy assault weapons and carry them freely is madness.

And that means the Tennessee state legislature is a confederacy of lunatics. Will they study the massacres of students and change their political positions? It seems unlikely. Most of them seem to be immune to facts and reason.

Right-wing lunatics have turned the "land of the free and the home of the brave" into the land where innocent children die to fill the coffers of the NRA and get lunatics elected to the highest offices. Tennessee's voters should be ashamed, but most of them cheer the lunatics and act as if liberals with functional hearts and brains are the enemy.

By: Mike Burch on 12/15/12 at 4:13

US or Them?

by Michael R. Burch

The NRA wants money in the till,
thus Adam Lanza had a license to kill.
The GOP’s the serial killer’s shill
and will be, until WE express our will
and vote to save our children from Boot Hill.

By: yogiman on 12/15/12 at 7:02

Am I wrong on my thoughts of your intelligence, Mike? Gun control? Don't we already have gun control in the USA? I had to take a course and pass a background check to get a license to carry a gun. So tell me, how can people like Adam Lanza be stopped from gaining a gun if he want's to kill... anyone, not just children? You can't. He could have been stopped if a law abiding citizen with a gun had been nearby, they wouldn't have had to wait for the police to arrive and set up operation.

How many more children were killed after the police arrived on the scene? How long did it that for them to stop him?

As I have commented before, this isn't the America I grew up in. I can't remember ever hearing or reading of such and so many events like the insane killings in my youthful days as we have had in our most recent years.

A criminal can get a gun if they want one. They don't have to go to a gun dealer. And if anyone want's to kill they can use a weapon other than a gun. A gunman can be stopped before they get started if a nearby law abiding citizen has a gun and is willing to use it instead of just carrying it for "advertisement".

If the intended criminal sees someone else with a gun they will likely not begin firing.

By: Ask01 on 12/15/12 at 9:01

I didn't mention the Holy Roller aspect in my other post, addressing the idea legislators should listen to the majority of the state's citizens and not just a select few.

The danger in listening to the extreme Holy Roller faction evokes thoughts and fears of the Taliban, the Inquisition, and the extremist Islamist factions holding many countries of the Middle East in Medieval conditions.

Our nations founders saw the danger in allowing a theocracy to supplant their democracy, which is why they decreed that congress would never make a law establishing a national religion or requiring membership in any religious group. (They did not, by the way, say we were totally Godless, they merely said it's your own business not the governments.)

I hope our elected leaders will realize the dangers of bowing and catering to the fringe groups, even if their members might represent a substantial part of the population in their districts, because those groups threaten to take Tennessee down a very different path from the rest of the nation.

I will predict right now that we will soon see a battle regarding firearms stemming from the tragedy in Sandy Hook. There will be calls from the extremist on both sides for extreme measures.

I could easily envision the anti gun crowd demanding a total ban on guns and the pro people clamoring for mandatory gun ownership in response to the event in Connecticut.

Neither option is logical, desirable, or enforceable, but the battle will be on. I hope cooler heads prevail.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/15/12 at 9:30

Mike;

I feel that feeding the mentally ill, of Gordonsville or Sandy Hook Is wrong. You should know that this troll has no concept of reality.

By: bfra on 12/15/12 at 9:36

Nemo - The last few comments or jibberish by the kook speaks volumes about his mental state. If you count the number of "Is" in the comments, it tells where his priorities are. ALL about him!

By: bfra on 12/15/12 at 9:52

Nemo - Also, people like him that brags, on a computer so they are not face to face with anyone, about what they would have done are usually the ones that would be shoving children out of the way, so they could get behind or under something, to hide.

By: bfra on 12/15/12 at 9:55

Ask01 - Excellent comment. I do believe, there should be tighter restrictions on gun dealers, expecially the ones at these gun shows.

By: yogiman on 12/15/12 at 11:05

Much is being said about gun control after the murder of those children in CT yesterday which was obviously a devastating event to the world, especially to parents.

Tell me, has any of you pro-gun control advocates ever heard of a shooter attacking a police station? I haven't. A 'soldier' who was stationed on an army base where the soldiers weren't allowed to have guns on the base killed several of his fellow soldiers until a lil' ol' civilian girl stopped him. How much credit has this young woman been given. How did that officer manage to have that gun in his office? How did he get it there? He was disobeying orders, wasn't he? Why hasn't he been court marshaled? Could it possibly be because he's a Muslim?

By: yogiman on 12/15/12 at 11:26

One more point, gun haters. What if that young man had taken gasoline to the school and threw it around the doors so they couldn't escape and into the rooms through the windows? Would more children have suffered or fewer? I'd say all of them in that school.

As I have posted before in your laughter, this ain't the USA I grew up in. There is many more killers today than in my younger years. So why not arm the mature employees of the schools today? How about the teachers? If they are smart enough to educate the children, surely they are smart enough to learn how to use a gun. How about the janitors. I've never known a janitor in a school who hated children. All I've ever known would put their life at the end of the limb to protect them.

So tell me, also, how do you propose to stop criminals from getting guns? Tell them it's illegal to have one?

By: Ask01 on 12/15/12 at 12:44

Emotions are running high presently after the massacre of children in Connecticut. There will be some action on gun control because a wave of emotion will drive legislators to jump on the band wagon hoping to garner public recognition for a brave stand.

Gun owners and advocates need to temper their responses to highly emotional outpourings of grief in which people call for gun control possibly even to include the outright banning of handguns. In the past,

I have read some very inflammatory and gegrading responses from pro gun folks which make me believe they are perhaps too mentally unstable to own anything more dangerous than a feather.

This is the wrong approach. Doing so only fuels the fire, providing ammunition that perhaps ALL gun owners are ticking time bombs, in danger of snapping at any moment.

I am not inordinately attached to guns, although I do have one inherited from my grandfather. I believe an American citizen should be able to own pretty much any reasonable firearm they wish. Assault weapons and other military specific wepons are not reasonable by my standard.

I also realize firearms are neither good nor evil, but an extension of the person e,ploying the weapon. Criminals will always find ways to obtain weapons, no matter what laws or how strict are on the books. If a mentally disturbed person wants to cause harm, they will find a way no matter what steps are taken. If the young man responsible for the carnage had not had access to guns, he would have used other means from explosives to poisons to cause equivalent mayhem. (I won't even go go into the overused issue of vehicular WMDs.)

My bottom line, a request, if you will, is for both camps to take a deep breath and leave the issue alone for the moment until the people in Connecticut have buried their dead and had time to grieve.

Otherwise emotions will run rampant and the result will leave everyone angry.

By: yogiman on 12/15/12 at 1:44

Ask01,

Can you name one incident where a certified gun owner committed a crime, let alone a murder? Didn't think so. If you can, I'd like to know.

Can you name one crime, including murders, committed by a criminal, using a gun they got legally? Didn't think so. You don't have to tell me, I've read and heard about many.

Yes, we civilized gun owners grieve over those children. We grieve over the loss of those parents. And yes, if one of us had been in that school you could bet your a$$ that young man would have been stopped before he killed all of those children.

But then, I guess we're different from you gun haters.

Now, how about tell me how you propose stopping criminals from getting their guns.

And I'll repeat, what if that young man had burned the school down and stopped the children from escaping? Would that have been understandable because it was just a different type of murder?

You'll learn as you age and mature, Ask01. I just hope you learn a lot about this nation of today.

By: Ask01 on 12/15/12 at 2:24

Yogi, I rarely address you, but when you demonstrate such an astounding lack of comprehension, I am forced to take your ineptitude to task.

I never said legal gunowners had committed crimes. I'm sure they have, despite the demented ravings from your ilk, but that has nothing to do with my post.

Let me type this slowly to allow you to understand. No law, no matter how harsh the penalty for defiance will keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Period, end of story.

Banning guns would wrongly punish only law abiding citizens.

Those with mental illness will find a way to spread mayhem through some other means,

What I was trying to caution even those refered to as "gun nuts" about was reacting with the usual rhetoric and vehemence which would only lend credence and support to those advocating draconian restrictions on gun ownership.

Think, if you are capable, of the image of someone ranting about guns don't kill people, people kill people, and making the tired argument about cars and knives kill but we don't talk of banning these every day items. The more forcefully these arguments are put forth, the more the majority will be turned off and react badly, forcing the very thing you fear most; more severe restrictions oreven an outright ban.

However, if you don't value being able to own weapons, keep on spouting the party line. Oppose even logical laws to keep the mentally ill or impaired from having easy access to guns. The result, especially now that those favoring very tight controls have twenty dead children as examples, will likely be worse than you or I can imagine.

You can humbly apologize for your comprehensive inadequacy at your liesure.

By: Ask01 on 12/15/12 at 2:29

By the way, yogi, if you are an example of what In have to look forward to as I age further, the prospect becomes depressing, if not downright terrifying.

Hopefully, I won't become such a shortsighted, bitter old troll, incapable of actually reasoning beyond a stunted, outdated, and myopic view of reality.

By: yogiman on 12/15/12 at 3:04

Fortunately, Ask01,

God gave us different minds, and you have the privilege of thinking as you wish. So do I. And I'll agree, we disagree often. Only time and incidences will tell which of us was right.

If you remember this "discussion" in your later years and agree; "that old man was right"... will you give me credit for putting it in your current [miniature] mind?

You say you're sure legal gun owners have committed crimes but you don't remember one. I'm sure if you had read, or heard, of one, you would damn well remember it and throw it at me as a "slam banger" ; See, I told you so.

May I remind you we now have laws restricting who can buy and own a gun. Criminals and persons with medically proven mental illness cannot legally buy or own a gun. So tell me, how are you going to stop them when they want one? Ban guns from the USA? Criminals buy and sell to criminals. And yes, some lawful gun owners sell to criminals and mentally ill "for the money". I, personally, don't consider them law abiding citizens. To me they are as criminally inclined as the one they are selling the gun to.

By: yogiman on 12/15/12 at 4:21

Ask01,

Let this old man throw this other murder incident at you. Do you remember a few years ago when the mass murder took place at Virginia Tech and 32 people were killed? Va. Tech. did not allow guns on campus. Many of the students were young veterans who knew how to use a gun.

Don't you think if just few of those young veterans had a gun they would have saved the lives of many other young students? I think so, or have the veterans changed their way of thinking on the use of a gun? Weren't the trained to use them for defense? Isn't an attack a line of defense in a war? At least that's the way I was trained. Of course I realize that was 65 yer ago.

By: Mike Burch on 12/15/12 at 5:19

Yogi,

You seem to have lost your ability to reason.

We could have stricter gun control laws. For instance, we could make it illegal to sell or distribute assault weapons to the general public. We could establish huge penalties and long prison sentences for anyone who buys, sells or passes out assault weapons. We would say that if someone does in a mass killing, anyone who helped the killer obtain the weapon is guilty of a capital crime. Such laws could save the lives of many innocent people. Most European nations have tighter gun control laws and have fewer mass murders than the USA.

No, criminals don't usually attack police stations, but that makes no difference unless we are going to turn every school into a police station. If we turned every school into a police station, the serial killers would just target victims elsewhere, such as in malls and coffee shops.

Do you really think giving young men assault weapons to carry around on campus is going to reduce deaths? Some ex-vets have serious mental problems themselves. Sooner or later one of the "defenders" would open fire.

Your "solutions" are not reasonable. We don't need to turn grade schools and universities into war zones. We need to keep assault weapons out of the hands of serial killers. Ordinary citizens don't need assault weapons. They should be limited to the armed forces and police.

By: Mike Burch on 12/15/12 at 5:28

Yogi,

I believe the Sandy Hook murders refute your strange idea that legal weapons have never been used to commit a crime. The weapons used in this case were "legal" so you have 27 murders committed with legal weapons.

Police officers have committed murders with legal weapons.

Soldiers have committed murders with legal weapons.

Many domestic "crimes of passion" are committed with legal weapons.

It is true that most crimes are committed with illegal weapons because the criminals don't want the guns to be traced back to them. But people who commit crimes of passion have used legal weapons. And serial killers who don't expect to live aren't worried about the weapons being traced.

So we need to understand WHY criminals prefer untraceable weapons.

By: yogiman on 12/15/12 at 7:10

Mike,

I understand a legal weapon is a weapon that can be bought legally. Personally, I have no desire to own an assault weapon. I do have a desire to own a good handgun and long barrel rifle and shotgun.

And I understand murder as a crime of unlawfully killing someone with malice aforethought. I don't see a crime of passion as a killing with malice aforethought. What reasons have police officers and soldiers committed murders?

In my point of view, if an officer or soldier commits a murder, they have ceased to become someone with a legal right to be armed.

As I've posted before, though, we all think differently. But it seems like y'all think I should think as you do. Sorry, we had different parents and you weren't good teachers in my childhood.

Again we differ, Mike. You say I don't any ability to reason. I don't know what you claim as your superior ability to reason over me but I'll argue with you word for word on our disagreements on the subjects at hand on this site.

By: yogiman on 12/15/12 at 7:16

Want to see a good show on you pal Obama this weekend, Mike? check www.youtube.com/?v=5fECpVS6DrQ/

Enjoy.

By: Mike Burch on 12/15/12 at 8:30

Ask01,

I believe studies show that people who exercise their minds keep more of their powers of reason into old age. So reading books, doing crossword puzzles, writing, etc., may help you avoid dementia and senility. I think exercise also helps. I try to take long walks and breathe the fresh air every day, if possible.

By: Ask01 on 12/15/12 at 8:46

Thanks, Mike. These are all activities in which I engage regularly. I look forward to the daily crossword puzzle, read, and walk daily. I also speak with some degree of fluency a foreign language which, according to a report I read about a year ago, is an excellent aid to mental clarity and sharpness.

We have so many examples depicting the dangers of mental atrophy, everyone should take steps to care for their mental health as well as physical health.

The consequences of failing to take proper precautions are displayed daily on this board, unfortunately.

By: yogiman on 12/15/12 at 9:48

Good referral comment, fellas. May I offer you some old man's advice from experience?

I used to learn to speak a little of the language of the nation where ever I was stationed when in service. I enjoyed it and made many good friends in it. I never got fluent but they could understand me like we can understand most of the foreigners in the US today. I also used to love to read. I read book after book when stationed at a "go no where" base. And yeah, I used to love a crossword puzzle, Ask01.

But you will find out too early, you will loose too much of your "git up and go" as a young person. Exercise? As a boxer I exercised every day. If you didn't, you wouldn't last two rounds.

Mental health? Yep, exercising helps that too. But again, kids, old age will slow you down too fast. And if you go through a surgery or two, especially on your brain and heart, you're going to slow down too fast, much faster than you wish. You'll likely become a "slow poke". And you better hope you keep your mental capacity and sense of humor when your juniors claim to be more intelligent and know more than you. They'll learn their ignorance some day.

Oh, and by the way, I see where they had 32 children slashed with a knife in China recently. Drastically harmed but not murdered. Good that young man didn't have a gun, I reckon even though many of those children lost their 'body parts'.

By: Mike Burch on 12/16/12 at 3:06

Yogi,

We may finally agree on one thing ... if we want to become more ignorant, we can take lessons from you!

Yes, now that a Chinese madman only used a knife to slash children, there is no need to worry about people with assault weapons killing children here in the USA. See, I am well on my way to following in your footsteps (NOT).

By: yogiman on 12/16/12 at 6:36

I'm ignorant, Mike? Only in yours' and your fellow agreeing posters minds on this site. I, for one, see inane abuse of a child a madman's behavior, regardless of what type of action they take or where they take it.

The major differences I see between the abuse of the children in the USA and China is the inane mutilation of the children in China and the inane deaths of the children in the USA. The only major difference I see in the child abuse in the USA and China is the madmen's weapons of use.

Child abuse is child abuse regardless of the nation in which it occurs. So y'all have your thoughts but please allow me to have mine; even if its ignorance in your frames of mind.

By: yogiman on 12/16/12 at 7:30

Wanna post a little bit more on how ignorant I am, Mike? Its short and simple: Read senate bill SR 511. Give me your interpretation on it says and who signed it?

By: bfra on 12/16/12 at 8:15

Nobody has to post how ignorant you are, they can read your comments & know that!

By: yogiman on 12/16/12 at 10:32

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, bfra. And you're exposing your ignorance every time you ignore and ridicule known facts.

Have you read the findings of SR 511? If so, did you note who signed it? Are you so stupid you can't read what that tells you?

By: yogiman on 12/16/12 at 10:51

How about exposing my ignorance a little more, bfra, and explain to me why you and your fellow posters and the Communist Party USA are supporting Obama so heavily. Are you and your fellow Obama supporters fellow members of the Communist Party USA?

That would explain why you so readily accept someone who refuses to identify himself.

It's going to be interesting when the new congress takes over in January. Will any of the "new men" bring Obama's Constitutional eligibility to question? If they don't: Goodbye, USA.

By: yogiman on 12/16/12 at 11:11

How about exposing my ignorance a little more, bfra, and explain to me why you and your fellow posters and the Communist Party USA are supporting Obama so heavily. Are you and your fellow Obama supporters fellow members of the Communist Party USA?

That would explain why you so readily accept someone who refuses to identify himself.

It's going to be interesting when the new congress takes over in January. Will any of the "new men" bring Obama's Constitutional eligibility to question? If they don't: Goodbye, USA.

By: yogiman on 12/16/12 at 11:13

Sorry I hit the button again but you can't repeat the facts too much.

By: Ask01 on 12/16/12 at 12:39

Mike notes in the last line of his column, "Where the legislature’s madness will end, only God knows."

I submit the voters of Tennessee hold that answer in their ballot.

The problem is, they have been so indoctrinated to believe GOP actually does mean "God's Own Party," they fear they will be struck down for exercising conscious thought and critical reasoning to see the alternative danger presented by the Tennessee Taliban currently occupying the state.

Maybe there is hope, as the demographics continue continue to evolve in this state, for us to avoid a return to the middle ages or worse.