Burch: Killing Nashville teens

Sunday, June 10, 2012 at 1:09pm
By Michael R. Burch

GOP geniuses are on a roll. Their plan to drown the earth in pollution and unwanted babies keeps gathering steam. As a result, the lives of Nashville teenagers are increasingly endangered.

Last year, as reported by the Associated Press, “the Republican-controlled House voted to strip federal money from President Barack Obama's health care overhaul and from Planned Parenthood and to bar the EPA from issuing global warming regulations.”

This year, Ohio Republicans added an amendment to a budget bill that would de-fund Planned Parenthood. Nina Turner, an Ohio Senator, told The Daily Beast, “It’s a social, racial and economic attack. Most of the women who are affected are poor, or black, or brown. It’s becoming a sin in this country to be poor and female.”

The family planning organization is also under attack in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and other states.

Closer to home, Tennessee Representative Stacey Campfield recently compared defunding Planned Parenthood with taking the prettiest girl at prom home (presumably to make whoopee and lots of babies).

What will happen here in Nashville, if Planned Parenthood isn’t around to dispense birth control and counsel young people who aren’t ready to assume the tremendous responsibilities of parenthood? It seems obvious that we’ll end up with more unwanted babies and more stressed-out teenagers dropping out of school, doing drugs and committing suicide. How many pregnant girls will end up ripping their insides out with coat hangers, or paying unqualified backroom abortionists to mutilate them, because qualified doctors weren’t available? How many teenagers will end up with terrible diseases like AIDS, if they aren’t given free condoms?

Will the highly dubious, shortsighted “morality” of Tennessee Republicans kill young Nashvillians who aren’t ready to become parents? Unfortunately, yes. Make no mistake about it, any successful GOP scheme to de-fund Planned Parenthood will result in more pregnancies and thus more abortions: very unsafe abortions that will result in more dead teens and pre-teens.

Conservatives seem intent on forcing other people to live (and die) according to their beliefs. According to their simplistic “ethics,” people should remain virgins till marriage and pre-teen mothers should be forced to risk their lives by having babies their bodies aren’t ready to bear. Where do conservatives get such bizarre ideas? Primarily from the Bible. Should young Nashville girls risk physical harm because American conservatives derive their “morals” from Moses, a barbarian who in Numbers 31 commanded his warriors to murder captured women and male children, keeping only the virgin girls alive for themselves?

Planned Parenthood helps save the lives and preserve the health and mental well-being of young Nashvillians. If we want fewer unplanned pregnancies, fewer abortions and fewer teen and pre-teen fatalities, we need Planned Parenthood, not stone-aged thinking derived from barbarians.

Michael R. Burch is a Nashville-based editor and publisher of Holocaust poetry and other “things literary” at www.thehypertexts.com.

51 Comments on this post:

By: MusicCity615 on 6/10/12 at 11:34

missing from this article-

Personal responsibility.
If Mike Burch had his way, he would burn all the Bibles, and have the government take money away from anyone that is wealthy through education and hard work, and give it to people who dropped out of high school, became drug addicts, and had 4 kids from 3 different men because "the system" is against them.

I am very fiscally conservative, but I actually support planned parenthood. However I see too many people on the left think that all the problems in America can be solved by throwing other people's money at it.

America needs stronger families who teach the values of education and self responsibility, not, if you mess up- it's the rich, white, GOP Christians' fault, and everything can be made better if we tax their money and deprive them of their personal beliefs.

I am a Christian and through Christianity I believe in free will, therefore I don't think the Government should force anyone to do anything to their bodies - whether that be to have or not have an abortion. I don't believe Mike Burch's attempt at propoganda / "what I believe is better than what others' believe" is good for anyone to read.

Mike- the solutions to the problems you see in this world aren't as simple as to blame the rich, white, Christian conservatives. I'm sorry. You will find many more people to understand your concerns and agree with you if you leave out your prejudice / hate from your articles.

By: yogiman on 6/10/12 at 2:01

Mike,

I don't see the federal government being titled as my daddy anywhere in our Constitution. Where do you see the Constitutional authority "bringing the children home" when they accidentally get pregnant?

Over the decades, this nation has been a nation under God. I have never read where the common tax payers should support everyone else.

While I agree on helping others in time of need I don't agree on taking them into my home and paying them to live there.

By: MusicCity615 on 6/10/12 at 2:21

Right now, 47% of Americans don't pay any federal income tax. There is government funded housing, transportation, education, healthcare, food stamps, and 99 weeks of unemployment insurance.

The government needs to provide a safety net, but right now it's a hammock. A better investment for the government would be to invest more in education, and have people get the necessary skill sets to take care of themselves, instead of expected government handouts.

The very notion that government should take someone's hard earned money to fund someone else to buy condoms, or receive an abortion is ridiculous, and I will never vote for someone who encourages that idea.

If you cannot afford condoms or an abortion, you shouldn't be engaging in activities that could lead to such circumstances.

This is not a political or religious argument. Anyone that has taken economics 101 can understand that the government cannot fund EVERYTHING.

By: dargent7 on 6/10/12 at 3:09

All you nut-cases on the right need to know is Tenn., as well as other states, chart teen pregnancies from ages 10- 18.
That's TEN years old.
In my day, we all reached puberty at 14 or so.
Today, it's 9 or 11.
Hormones in milk, in the beef at McDonalds.
But, Republicans deny anything ouside the bun/ box.
Kids are having sex at 10 or 11. Certainly by 14 or 15. Known it.
You'd better teach them about birth control and sex education.
Either way, your little angels and darlings are stripping their clothes off and getting nude with the neighbor and having intercourse.
But, of course, you already knew that.

By: MusicCity615 on 6/10/12 at 3:31

dargent-

Im in favor of teaching sex education at early ages. If you are 11 and have consensual sex with another 11 year old, and it's consensual to the families, it's none of my business. However, if you think people's abortions of unwanted pregnancies should be paid for by other people's money, just because kids have hormones, you're the nut-case.

By: yogiman on 6/10/12 at 4:35

Well said, MusicCity615. And the way things are going today, it won't be long before that 47% goes over the 50% mark and the whole thing boils down to pure politics.

[Take care] of them and they'll vote for you, which makes me wonder: Which party does today's 47% belong to?

By: yogiman on 6/10/12 at 4:50

dargent7,

Maybe you should consider my way of thinking. I was assigned to our office in Albuquerque NM and didn't like it. I worked my way into a transfer to our Memphis office, which I also didn't like. I then transferred to Montgomery AL. Still wanted to get back "home" so I worked my way back to Nashville.

Nashville was a great place back then so I stayed until I retired.

Hating the South like you claim, you could also work your way back to Detroit.

By: BenDover on 6/10/12 at 6:45

Mr Melodrama strikes again. Burch is like the Ayn Rand of leftist hyperbole.

By: govskeptic on 6/11/12 at 6:08

Mike and I both go to AP stories to get the unvarnished and unbiased
truth on all subjects! As to Planned Parenthood's remarks on teaching
the girls the tremendous responsibilities of parenthood goes mainly to
those hesitant about an abortion! Planned Parenthood's loud and affect
attack on the Susan Coleman Foundation shows just what bullies they
are to protect their turf and dollars.

The ole coat hanger story was always more myth than factual, but that
doesn't stop it usage within the sky is falling supporters. Tenn is
deciding, with the failure to prevent 40% of children being born to
unwed mothers, to divert the state's dollars to other organizations
that may be more affective! Another story that sounds as it has been
scripted by the irate writers from "The Ed Show!"

By: yogiman on 6/11/12 at 6:18

Mike,

Did you study a different Constitution than I? Where in your constitution does it tell you you must take the responsibility of your fellow citizens by supporting and providing for them from a baby's birth to their death?

After a baby has "grown up" into maturity and refused to get a free education and refuses to learn and earn a self-supporting income, they only seem have time to "have fun" and enjoy a sex life without thinking about getting pregnant with a baby they don't want, we're supposed to support them by aborting their babies because the don't want them but refuse not to have sex which is causing them to get pregnant.

Yet we're supposed to supply them with condoms and any other preventative elements or take financial care of their abortions of unwanted babies when they refuse to use the preventative elements ?

Gimme a break, Mike. I have better use of my money.

By: yogiman on 6/11/12 at 6:51

govskeptic,

I don't know how old you are, but I recently read about so many young women of today intentionally having babies out of wedlock. I understand most of them are for getting the government's support to raise their babies. It seems some of them think the more they have the more their income will be... from us, of course.

I believe that was between 25 to 35 percent of the babies born today are out of wedlock.

In my youth, if a girl got pregnant she, and her family, would be so embarrassed she would often "go to her" relatives to have said baby and they were usually put up for adoption. It was rare the babies were brought home with them.

By: Ummm... on 6/11/12 at 7:23

"Why the deafening silence concerning the state-sponsored Israeli abortion mills?"

Because if the war-mongering Teapublicans have nothing else, at least they have hypocrisy...

By: budlight on 6/11/12 at 8:00

Mike, you are a little off base because you forgot to ask: How many millions of young men and women are NOT engaging in sex? How many young women are not using birth control pills? How many parents ARE teaching their daughters and sons about the responsibility of bearing children, being parents and abstaining from sex so they don't get diseases and/or have children?

No, I don't want to pay for abortions or birth control pills or condoms for underage children. Let their parents do it. Make people take parenting classes and pay for their own services.

Loner, you are so wrong. Jesus is a kind, gentle man who loves us all, yes, even you. But talking to people of your ilk, the ones who know "everything" is like talking to a brick wall - can't get through. Abortion is murder. After all, if a seed is planted in the ground and watered, it will not even start to grow unless it was alive to start with. You can't get a tomato plant from a dead tomato seed. And so the same is true for a child. A living, vital sperm and egg are needed to create a child. If they unite and are both vital, then the life is already started. So life does begin at conception. Then shortly afterwards, the heart is beating and the formation of a living person starts. It's a miracle. And no one should kill a miracle. No one.

By: rawhide on 6/11/12 at 8:21

Humans in the womb need "Planned Parenthood" about as much as taxpayers need gov't employee unions.

By: MusicCity615 on 6/11/12 at 8:27

rawhide-

Hilarious. Although I think planned parenthood is helpful to some. Just make sure it's not taxpayer funded!!

By: dargent7 on 6/11/12 at 8:33

"...I have better use of my money.."
What's that? Funding two useless wars in the Middle East? Spending $1.2 trillion and 6,400 dead American soldiers? Voting for a liar GW Bush and now the hypocritical Romney?
You right-wing nuts want to force an unwanted preganacy to become full term, then send them off to a desert 6,000 miles away fighting a corrupt government to replace it with another, more corrupt, (but richer) government all on the backs of US taxpayers.
Tell me where your intelligence starts and then stops.

By: MusicCity615 on 6/11/12 at 8:39

dargent-

democrats and republicans voted in favor of the Iraq War and the war in Afghanistan. Fighting Al Queda is useless to you??? they want you dead!

President Obama has pledged American support in Afghanistan until 2014. Is that bush's fault too?

Us right-wing nuts didn't force anyone to have sex. I am not in favor of any party forcing anyone that wants to get an abortion not to have one, it's their free-will if they want to kill an unborn child. JUST DON'T USE OUR MONEY TO "SOLVE" THEIR MISTAKES!!!!!!!!!!!

When you were growing up, did your parents say, "Dargent- go out and have fun today. If you mess up, don't worry, here's a blank check from your Uncle Same. Just write the amount on the check to solve whatever mess You got yourself into."

By: MusicCity615 on 6/11/12 at 8:40

Uncle Sam*

By: dargent7 on 6/11/12 at 8:42

You good 'ole boys should get out more. Women, teens, young girls, use Planned Parenhood for a multitude of reasons. Their parents are non-existent or buried in their own pitiful existence to care.
12 year olds are having sex. If you old goats are well into your 60's and 70's, know that your nieces are getting laid.
25% will get a STD. And that's a gift that lasts forever.
50% have un-protected sex and 30% will get pregnant.
You think these pregancies are the result of a one time encounter? A "mistake"?
No, multiple, countless times.
Half get DNA tests because they don't even know who the father is. And "daddy" always denies paternity.
Pay now or pay later...welfare, Foodstamps, ADC, Tenn. Care.
Better pay for preventive health care. But Republicans were never known for intelligence as being their strong suit.

By: dargent7 on 6/11/12 at 8:47

M615: Congress followed GW Bush & Co's plus the CIA's lead. Obama voted NO for Iraq.
Congrees figured Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, et. al., knew WTF they were doing, saying, plotting.
Add in 9/11 was still a fresh wound. And we wanted retaliation. We had to attack somebody for vengence, ie., justice.
10 years later, it was all b.s.
Saudi Arabia was 90% responsible. Saddam...0%.
You do the math.

By: BenDover on 6/11/12 at 8:51

This attitude that we live in the 1950's and that girls are going to commit mass suicide because they are embarrassed about being pregnant is ludicrous.

The wide-spread acceptance by society of unwed mothers being as-much the norm as wed mothers totally destroys the argument for abortion-on-demand as another form of birth-control.

What about the recent revelation of planned parenthood counselors advising young mothers that they can keep the baby much later in term so that they can see on ultrasound if it's a boy or girl and then terminate the pregnancy as they see fit. Sex selection of late-term, even viable, babies?

This is where the real goal-posts are... not some crazy back-ally coat-hanger manifestation of Burch's fertile imagination.

By: bfra on 6/11/12 at 9:02

By: MusicCity615 on 6/11/12 at 9:39

dargent-

democrats and republicans voted in favor of the Iraq War and the war in Afghanistan. Fighting Al Queda is useless to you??? they want you dead!
==========================================
There are still some dumb nuts that can't get it thru their thick heads. Those votes were based on lie, lie after lie by Bush/Cheney & Rice.

By: jvh2b on 6/11/12 at 9:21

Wow - I know the attacks on Mike's POV from the right are usually full of it, but now you guys are just stretching it.

NO Where in Mikes letter was 'personal responsibility' given to the govt. His rant is against our moronic legislature trying to legislate MORALITY.

If a teen is raised w/ strong values and follows them...KUDOS.
However, not all kids are going to be like this, and those nitwits up on capitol hill are trying to take away safety nets for those that aren't as fortunate to have parents that care and teach them what should be done.

Typical nutjob thinking that if we take away the band aid, then you won't get cut attitude. Unfortunately for you all there is this small thing call REALITY.

Good grief.

By: MusicCity615 on 6/11/12 at 9:25

dargent,

I was born in the 80s. I know how much people have sex. There is a difference between responsible sex and careless sex. If you are too poor for condoms, let alone an abortion, nor do you have the support from your parents fiscally or emotionally, and you have unprotected sex with countless men / women, why is it my job to fund for that mistake?

I am not arguing for or against abortion here, I am saying NO to funding other people's mistakes. It makes ZERO sense and creates a moral hazard issue. At some point, people need to own up to their mistakes.

By: MusicCity615 on 6/11/12 at 9:28

jvh2b-

If you don't want a baby, get a job and buy some condoms. If you accidently get pregnant and don't want it, get a job and fund an abortion (if you believe that is ok).

The real problem here is too many people expect the government to take care of them, when they have all the resources within their brains to take care of themselves.

I am in favor of planned parenthood, just not completed funded with other people's money.

Good grief.

By: yogiman on 6/11/12 at 9:35

dargent7,

I must say I glad I'm a right-winged nut instead of being the left-wing nut you're identifying yourself to be.

You call George Bush a liar: And Barack Obama isn't? Where did you learn the difference between lying and telling the truth? If you would like, I'd be glad to start listing the lies Barack Obama has told. It might take a few days but I could get them in there and then keep it up on a daily basis for you.

By: bfra on 6/11/12 at 9:40

Start listing yogi! TRUTH not your usual BS found on garbage sites.

By: Ummm... on 6/11/12 at 9:41

Bennie says: "The wide-spread acceptance by society of unwed mothers being as-much the norm as wed mothers totally destroys the argument for abortion-on-demand as another form of birth-control."

Let the record show that Ben Dover is supportive of the idea that teen moms are OK, and being an unwed mother is just another part of "the norm." Oh, and nevermind the obvious economic disadvantages for the mother and the baby- sure hope they're not relying on government assistance, cause Bennie's ready to bring that to a screeching halt. And Loner, don't worry- Bennie's planning a trip to Israel to show them the error of their baby-killing ways (I'm sure they'll pay close attention).

By: brrrrk on 6/11/12 at 9:51

MusicCity615 said

"However, if you think people's abortions of unwanted pregnancies should be paid for by other people's money, just because kids have hormones, you're the nut-case."

As is always the case, the right wing boils everything down to the wallet. Oh, they'll tell you it's about morality and personal responsibility, but when the shit hits the fan.... it's really all about money.... their money.

Sadly though, they can't see past the wallet in their own pockets. Question. When a girl is forced the have a child that she doesn't want because she can't afford it, who pays? Well, certainly she does.... that's a given. But the parents pay as well, unless they chose to toss the girl out into the street, at which point it immediately falls on the state. And if the parents have to spend more money helping out the girl, that means they save less for themselves and spend more to support the girl and her child. That leaves the parents in worse shape for their retirement (leaving them to be more dependent upon public services) as well as forcing them to spend money on items that have less of an impact on our economy. In the meantime, that child needs to be educated and also adds to the economic strain of the local economy. This is turn forces the states to allocate more resources to help out those local economies. And then the states end up going to the Federal government (like Tennessee has done for the past 30 years) to get funds that they then use to balance their budgets. So in the end, when a girl is forced to have a child she can't afford, who pays? Well... the girl, the child, the parents, the local economy, the state economy, and finally the Federal economy. Talk about passing the buck....

The right talks the business world up big time and part of being in business is calculating things like ROI... Return On Investment. The way I see it, forcing a girl to have a child (knowing full well that she can't afford to raise it and knowing the impact that that child will have on our economy) is a bad ROI.... especially if we refuse (as a society) to assume some responsibility for forcing the birth of that child.

By: yogiman on 6/11/12 at 9:57

MusicCity615,

You mentioned you was born in the 80s, so you know how the "natural" attitudes on sex are today.

I was born in 1930. Back in my young days, if a man wanted a condom (rubber, back then) he would go into a drug store, ease up the the counter and whisper to the pharmacist. The pharmacist would ease his hand under the counter and the man would pay him. That was back then.

Today, you go into a place like Wal-Mart and what do you find at the checkout counters? A full display of all kinds of sex preventatives or pleasure aides one can imagine.

Today, our government is teaching young children homosexuality is normal and okay.

The USA is now on the downhill slide of its history.

By: Rasputin72 on 6/11/12 at 10:06

Mike, the thinking public knows who is overpopulating the underclass with unwanted children... The solution is orphan homes and sterilization of the women who produce a child that becomes a ward of the state. The second solution is a one year prison sentence for tathers who do not pay child support. I had much rather spend money on incarceration and sterilazation that trying to plead with these vile creature to stop having babies. Remember babies are income to the underclass under our present rules and laws.

As you know I have little respect for people like you with humanitarian solutions sub-human people.

By: Ummm... on 6/11/12 at 10:13

Rasputin uses the term "sub-human people."

Is that an oxymoron, or just a term used by morons?

By: MusicCity615 on 6/11/12 at 10:18

Brrrrk-

Where did I say abortion should be illegal? I am not in favor of abortion, but I also don't believe the gov't should force ppl to have a child when they don't want to.

With that being said.... If someone is going to have an abortion, they should pay for it. If they can't, they should NOT be engaging in unprotected sex, or at least sex until they can afford to have an abortion.

and when is being fiscally responsible a bad thing? I love how all the dems, unions, hippies, and occupiers say the republicans only care about money. Dems, unions, hippies, and occupiers want to raise taxes on the rich so they have more money!!!

By: brrrrk on 6/11/12 at 10:34

MusicCity615 said

"Where did I say abortion should be illegal? I am not in favor of abortion, but I also don't believe the gov't should force ppl to have a child when they don't want to.

With that being said.... If someone is going to have an abortion, they should pay for it. If they can't, they should NOT be engaging in unprotected sex, or at least sex until they can afford to have an abortion.

and when is being fiscally responsible a bad thing? I love how all the dems, unions, hippies, and occupiers say the republicans only care about money. Dems, unions, hippies, and occupiers want to raise taxes on the rich so they have more money!!!"

So, what you're basically saying is that the poor, who by having an unwanted child (purely defined as unwanted for fiscal reasons) would impact our economy the most in a negative way, should get no financial support for abortions? Talk about making my point.....

By: brrrrk on 6/11/12 at 10:37

MusicCity615 and Rasputin72...

Proof positive that all the Tory's weren't booted out during the Revolution...

By: MusicCity615 on 6/11/12 at 11:21

Brrrk-

Proof of being in desperate need of an economics 101 class....

By: pswindle on 6/11/12 at 11:29

MusicCity takes the talking points straight from Fox News. May I ask, "Should rape pregnancy abortions be state funded? I am so sick of people hiding behind, "i'm a Christian."

By: brrrrk on 6/11/12 at 11:32

MusicCity615 said

"Brrrk-

Proof of being in desperate need of an economics 101 class...."

And when's the last time you did a cost analysis for a retail product?

By: MusicCity615 on 6/11/12 at 11:43

pswindle-

Yes, they should. And I'm not hiding behind my Christianity. Rape related abortions account for maybe 2% I would imagine.

The notion that rape abortions should be state funded means ALL abortions should be state funded is ridiculous.

By: dargent7 on 6/11/12 at 1:03

Music: Ok, I'm 20 years older than you.
You don't want to pay for other people's mistakes".
Having sex at 12 or 14 isn't "a mistake".
It's willfull, and will happen again and again.
Until a pregnancy and STD, even that won't stop them.
All these teens do is yap on the phone and text. They send nude pics of themselves.
They hook up, sexually.
For someone in his mid to late 30's, you don't seem to know what our youth are up to.
You'll pay for "their mistake" one way or another. Welfare and gov't hand outs for single moms. Insurance premiums. Either way, you'll pay.

By: yogiman on 6/11/12 at 1:44

Just a question, dargent7,

Let's say you intentionally ram your car into a wall and it bangs you up pretty bad: Like a broken arm, broken leg and cracked skull. Should government rush you to the hospital and have you "fixed up"?

Is the government going to provide certain things for certain citizens, like abortions; and provide them with contraceptives if they want them to avoid pregnancy?

Why doesn't the government just provide life support to all citizens?

By: MusicCity615 on 6/11/12 at 1:45

Here's an idea dargent,

have the people making the mistakes pay for their condoms, birth control, abortions. Simple. done.

By: brrrrk on 6/11/12 at 1:59

MusicCity615 said

"Here's an idea dargent,

have the people making the mistakes pay for their condoms, birth control, abortions. Simple. done."

See..... Simple. done.

"Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself."
- Mark Twain.

Simple isn't always "simple"....

By: birdperch on 6/11/12 at 2:02

I'm not a mom, but strongly believe in Planned Parenthood and its message.
Lots of thoughts are missing from this article.
* Statisically, (and interestingly) it's usually males who voice complaints about teen sex and pregnancies.
* Teens (and college students) have sex. Always will. Some of you did. Teens and college students get raped by family members and strangers. Some of you or your friends had abortions. Some of you or your teen friends became young Parents. And I'd bet their Parents along with government subsidies (medical shots, schools, food stamps) helped raise those babies. Some young parents had to drop out of school to earn money for their babies. Some boys left their pregnant girlfriends because they didn't take responsibility, yet went to college themselves. Some of you may be "young" Grandparents, now pitching in financially.
* Organizations like PP help Reduce the need for Government funding in the long run. Curbing the number of unwanted/uncessary (rapes, incest) babies, reduces required dollars needed for schools, housing, additional roads/energy, health care, food, etc. Overpopulation is the greatest cause of expenditure.
* PP raises much of its funding through donations, with some Government subsidies. It's VERY little compared to the millions OUR dollars Fund every single member of Congress's HEALTH CARE until he/she dies. Now THAT is WRONG! Why are we paying for their health care after they leave office, whether it be one term? That money should be spent on education and our dilapitated infrastructure, not weathly or inept politicians.
* Nay Sayers, including members of Congress are welcome to adopt these babies and put their money (some of which was ours) where their vote is.

By: dargent7 on 6/11/12 at 2:11

Simlpls. Done.
No, it's called America and like it or not, we're all in this together.
You right wingers want to DENY sex education in schools, teachings of evolution, teaching what it means to be gay, then when girls get pregnant, gay people want equal rights, and God isn't in every detail, you proclaim, "But it's not my problem!"
Yes it is, and it isn't going away even if Romney is elected.
GW Bush was the biggest liar and incompetant fool to occupy the Oval Office. He attacked the wrong country.
Yet, he was MY problem, because I live here. "Problems" come with the territory.
Teen pregnancy is YOUR problem as well as the costs of cleaning it up.

By: yogiman on 6/11/12 at 2:17

bfra,

You want a few of Obama's lies? OK, I'll start here.

On his 2008 campaign he denied he was ever a member of the New Party which was a political party with a socialist agenda in 1996.

Why did he lie when he was listed in a Chicago newspaper's boast: "New Party members won three other primaries this spring in Chicago: Barack Obama (State Senate), Michael Chandler (Democratic Party Committee) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary)."

The paper quoted Obama saying, "These victories prove that small "d" democracy can work."

Hang in there, bfra, there's more.

www.wnd.com/2012/06/obama-just-caught-in-big-lie/

By: yogiman on 6/11/12 at 2:35

bfra,

Check Tom Fife out on google. He tells of the first time he heard about Barack Obama was when he was going back and forth to Moscow, Russia between 1992 to mid 1994 setting up a business with some Russians.

It seems the wife of one of his "partner's" was a pure bred communist and told him about Barack Obama when she got "high" at a after-dinner party.

She told him Obama was a communist being trained to become president of the US.

Was she lying? After all, he was raised in a communist family in politics and Muslim in faith.

By: bfra on 6/11/12 at 2:37

As usual yogi - NO PROOF! Just what your trash site have. Try reading some factual news, oh I forgot, you can't read facts, just trash..

By: yogiman on 6/11/12 at 3:00

Hang in there, bfra.

Tell me, what do you think of Obama's campaign slogan "Forward", which is a phase long embraced by Marxists? Does it have a different meaning to Obama?

By: MusicCity615 on 6/11/12 at 3:17

Dargent,

you just compared a country going to war to a careless girl getting pregnant. I end my case.