Up for Debate: Arriola's turn in the hot seat

Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 1:23am

As the Metro Council defers a vote to ask for his resignation, should Davidson County Clerk John Arriola remain in office given the findings of the recent state audit? Should the DA's recommendation be the final say? Do the audit findings even warrant his leaving office?

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71 Comments on this post:

By: dargent7 on 2/9/12 at 5:13

Marriage gratuities, cash only, in unmarked envelopes? Did he pay tax on the $120,000.?
Sick the IRS on him for tax evasion, fire him, fine him with penalties, then send him to jail.

By: Ummm... on 2/9/12 at 5:27

Unfortunately, I tend to think Arriola's conduct is probably just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to corruption in the Metro government.

By: Loner on 2/9/12 at 5:43

Good morning, Nashville.

Arriola is in the "hot seat", or is he in the "driver's seat"?

Yeah, Arriola is a scum bag...a well-to-do fat cat who wanted to line his pockets even more, at the expense of newly weds. Despicable, IMO.

Arriola's no dummy, the guy brings his personal lawyer to the METRO Council meeting..Arriola now has a hired gun, to deflect the embarrassing questions and to denigrate and smear his accusers....Arriola brought a gun to the knife fight...very clever.

Metro lacked the caljones to throw the creep out...they probably all have skeletons in the closet...they don't want anybody poking around and investigating...so they passed the buck to the Attorney General....the AG will probably take his sweet time on this one....the AG does not want to rock the boat either.

It is just my guess, but it's likely that corruption is widespread in Metro governance....a full outside audit of the entire operation might be a wise investment...but don't wait for the Council Members to call for that....you would be waiting for hell to freeze over.

By: govskeptic on 2/9/12 at 5:52

There are some seriously allegations in the audit beyond just the
marriage license dollars, that should be very troubling to all, especially
the DA. That being the paying of salary to "ghost employee" and another
working part-time but being paid for full time. Why do these elected
officials do such across this state? If I might answer: It's because the
DA's and even the TBI hate involvement in these cases. Also, the Judges
only smack the wrist if there should be that seldom conviction!

By: Captain Nemo on 2/9/12 at 6:46

Man who speaks with forked tongue should not kiss balloons.

By: dargent7 on 2/9/12 at 6:51

What's all this uproar about ObamaCare requiring insurance cos. to offer contraception to women? The Catholic church still believes in the "rhythm method"?
I remember every Catholic family had 5 kids when I was 10. All other religions had 2 or 3.

By: Loner on 2/9/12 at 7:16

Ariola lawyered up....a ballad in progress...by the Lone One.

Arriola lawyered up...his accusers are goin' down.
I think I smell a rat...in old Nashville town.
They got ghost employees and no-show jobs.
Fat cats, bureaucrats and suit-wearing slobs.

Kickbacks, corruption, malfeasance and graft,
The taxpayers in Nashville are getting the shaft.
Politicians, the judges and the cops agree,
Don't take it all, leave some for me.

If you want to get ahead, you gotta be a jerk.
If you want your palm greased, run for County Clerk.
There may not be a charge, there may not be a fee,
Just an arbitrary "gratuity".

Government jobs come with special perks.
Don't know if it's legal, but it sure beats work.
I think I smell a rat...in old Nashville town.
Arriola lawyered up...folks are goin' down.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/9/12 at 7:24

And the Loony Music Awards for best song of the year goes to……Loner.

By: Loner on 2/9/12 at 7:26

Why....thank you, thank you very much...I'd like to thank the following people who made this all possible....

By: Captain Nemo on 2/9/12 at 7:33

I expect my payment by noon today. wink wink

By: Ask01 on 2/9/12 at 7:36

This entire affair is a fiasco, reflecting badly on Metro Nashville leadership.

Beyond the external image this projects to outsiders, perhaps business owners considering relocating for example, the local impact should be considered.

I wholeheartedly admit I am on record as having little trust in elected officials until they have demonstrated such is deserved, so my opinion is confessed to be decidedly biased.

Mr. Arriola has no integrity factor remaining, from my perspective, and any issue associated with his office, regardless how slight is tainted. He is damaged goods.

Metro Council had an opportunity to establish a moral high ground by asking Mr. Arriola to resign, or at the very least temporarily step aside until all investigations are complete. Unless I missed something, always a possibility as I am only human, the council failed to act on either option.

Public trust in government in America hovers at dangerously, perhaps historically low percentages. I believe the time has come for elected officials to clean their house and make an effort to restore public trust before history repeats itself yet again and some manner of citizen revolt renders the discussion moot.

Just my humble opinion.

By: Ask01 on 2/9/12 at 7:38

Loner, set that to a country beat with a steel guitar and you might have next years CMA Song Of The Year.

By: Loner on 2/9/12 at 7:59

Thanks, Ask01...I hear it in E minor with a country 4/4 beat...yes, plenty of pedal steel guitar...country fiddle too. I can do the vocals...but a local star doing the song would probably make more money faster...and that IS the name of the game, right? Kerching!

We have some accomplished musicians posting here....maybe we can squeeze this thing and make some lemonade....on a deal like this, you gotta move fast and get it on the local Music City radio stations. while the story is hot..could be a flash-in-the-pan deal...let's go for it!

By: yogiman on 2/9/12 at 8:05

Good "song", Loner. Awful quick writing. Did you substitute Nashville's name in place of your home town?

By: Loner on 2/9/12 at 8:11

Well, if the troll digs the tune...we are on a roll...stand by to rake in the dough-re-mi.

My home town is a shining beacon of hope and honesty on a hill....rodent-free....the bulldogs all have rubber teeth, the cops have wooden legs, the farmers' fields are full of fruit and the hens lay soft-boiled eggs.....yes, my home town is located on the Big Rock Candy Mountain.

By: yogiman on 2/9/12 at 8:12

Unfortunately, Ask01, a crooked politician isn't going to resign until forced out of office. Only at the last of the issue will they resign to 'save face' by insisting they are merely stepping down to save the "guvmunt" money from a farce trial.

By: yogiman on 2/9/12 at 8:14

Are you one of their '[h]inhouse' politician, Loner? (misspelling intended)

By: Captain Nemo on 2/9/12 at 8:16

“A chip on the shoulder indicates wood higher up.”
Yiddish saying-

By: bfra on 2/9/12 at 8:22

“Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.” - Plato

By: Captain Nemo on 2/9/12 at 8:23

Don't waste time on nothing.

By: bfra on 2/9/12 at 8:24

Loner - Good lyrics. Also, for Nashville, very true.

By: bfra on 2/9/12 at 8:27

Loner - I agree on not knowing what a hinhouse is. Maybe it is for Chinese chickens. Considering the source, it could be something we haven't heard of.

By: yogiman on 2/9/12 at 8:29

Which category of men do you fit, bfra, a wise man... or a fool?

By: Loner on 2/9/12 at 8:30

Mornin' Bfra...that's a great quote...I'll think of that at the next board meeting...I'm on the Board at a Unitarian Universalist church in my home town...liberals can be liberal with their rantings and ravings too....we are a dogma-free faith, but the quote from Plato should be part of our belief system...I'll bring it up at our next pow-wow....thanks.

By: yogiman on 2/9/12 at 8:31


Have you switched from using your old Sears-Roebuck catalog in your outhouse to the U.S. Constitution?

By: Captain Nemo on 2/9/12 at 8:32


You should hear Loner when he is squeezing a troll. He can make it squeal so good.

By: bfra on 2/9/12 at 8:33

Loner - An example of how true it is: 8:29, 8:14 & 8:12 comments for a few.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/9/12 at 8:34

“A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult.”
Yiddish saying-

By: bfra on 2/9/12 at 8:35

Add 8:31 comment to that list.

By: bfra on 2/9/12 at 8:36

Nemo - Wish he could squeeze it till it shuts up.

By: yogiman on 2/9/12 at 8:37

It seems the post title "Arriola's turn in the hot seat" is putting him in the front of the line. Wonder who's going to be next behind him?

By: Captain Nemo on 2/9/12 at 8:37

From yesterday;

By: yogiman on 2/8/12 at 3:43
Welcome to the club, Ask01. I've never voted for an office holder more than twice in a row. But I'm afraid with the country in the shape its in now, and if Obama is kept in office, we won't have another election in the USA. That is, if we have one this year.

By: brrrrk on 2/8/12 at 4:02
"His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere." - Mark Twain

By: bfra on 2/8/12 at 4:20
brrrrk - Amen! Get's worse everyday.

By: yogiman on 2/8/12 at 11:56
And its gonna get worse tomorrow, children.

By: Loner on 2/9/12 at 8:43

I use the Constitution in case of Constipation....just reading it makes me want to defecate...as for the Sears Roebuck catalog, I never use the ladies undergarments section for doing the post-partum paper work...gotta save those pages.

Frankly, I'm surprised at the troll's question...I figured he grew up using corn cobs as the standard tool for outhouse hygiene....and using corn cobs as organic masturbatory aids.

By: yogiman on 2/9/12 at 8:47

A good quote on your 8:34 post, Captain Nemo. I'll have to agree with you on that one: There's a lot of fools on this site and only a few prudent ones.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/9/12 at 8:49

“A half truth is a whole lie.”
Yiddish saying

By: bfra on 2/9/12 at 8:52

Loner - He brings that Sear;s & outhouse combo up so often, he must be trying to find out if anyone, besides him, is using that. Guess, just trying the make himself feel less ignorant.

By: Loner on 2/9/12 at 8:53

Cap'n...too bad that the Likud government of Israel does not practice the wisdom of those Yiddish adages. If they did, we might not be engaged in this global war of on terror....just sayin'.

By: yogiman on 2/9/12 at 8:57

Naw, Loner.

We had a Sears-Roebuck catalog in our outhouse. I used corncobs in the barn or out in the cornfield.

They're good for the job; they clean it and scratch it at the same time. I never had your experience in using them as masturbatory aides. How did you do that?

By: Captain Nemo on 2/9/12 at 8:59

If you have a particular faith or religion, that is good. But you can survive without it.
Dalai Lama

By: Captain Nemo on 2/9/12 at 9:00

Once the cob turn brown, he would set it on fire and inhale.

By: Loner on 2/9/12 at 9:01

Another thumbs Up:

By: bfra on 2/9/12 at 8:24

Loner - Good lyrics. Also, for Nashville, very true.

Thank you, Bfra...too bad that it's true...but if it were false, it would not be a hit, right?

Bfra, the inks used in those Sears Roebuck catalogs are known to cause degeneration of the nervous system....everyday contact between the anus and the inks could affect the way one thinks.

By: yogiman on 2/9/12 at 9:02

True, bfra.

I just trying to prove I'd less ignorant than you. And it looks like I've succeeded.

By: Loner on 2/9/12 at 9:03

You bad, Nemo...bad....LOL on your 9:00 post.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/9/12 at 9:05

There are three kinds of men. The one who learns by reading. There's a few who learn by observation. The rest have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.

yogi always third.

By: Loner on 2/9/12 at 9:17

In violation of my own guidelines...I am re-posting this nugget...troll droppings don't get much better than this:

By: yogiman on 2/9/12 at 8:57

Naw, Loner.

We had a Sears-Roebuck catalog in our outhouse. I used corncobs in the barn or out in the cornfield.

They're good for the job; they clean it and scratch it at the same time. I never had your experience in using them as masturbatory aides. How did you do that?

As Moe Howard famously said, "Don't play dumb with me, you ain't smart enough."

The troll could host a website on the mechanics of barnyard buggery and back door bung-holes....but now he's playing dumb when it comes to corn holes and corn cobs in the outhouse?

By: Captain Nemo on 2/9/12 at 9:18

It is time for me to go. Have fun, but don’t waste too much time on nothing.

Chuck Norris frequently donates blood. Just never his own.

By: Loner on 2/9/12 at 9:25

See ya, Captain Nemo....thanks for the laughs and the wisdom....I gotta go soon too....I got stuff to do....this has been a fun time this morning....where are the other "regulars"?

By: Captain Nemo on 2/9/12 at 9:27

Before I go here is some appropriate reading;

I've heard that the use of dry corn cobs was a fairly popular choice before the advent of toilet paper. It may not have been used by the Natives but it was apparently practiced by early settlers in North America. Once the kernels have been taken off and the cob allowed to dry, the remaining kernel husk, or what ever it's called, on the cob is fairly soft. I don't know how comfortable it would have been, but it sounds a lot more pleasant to use than a rock, smooth stick, or snow!
Michael Teal

I think old timers soaked them in wood ash and water which caused them to swell. They then dried them and they would be soft and fluffy.
Benjamin Pressley

Heh, now this brought up memories that made me laugh! Although pretty much raised a city boy myself, my grandparents lived in the country and used kerosene lamps, a wood burning stove in the kitchen, outside water pump, and yes, the little shack out back for making water and steamers (did I get the turd, er, term, correct for that? ;^) There was never any toilet paper out there, but that's where I learned the meaning of "too hard and too slick", by personal experimentation with the occasional Sears and Roebuck catalog that was in there. It has to do with why the plain white pages were all getting ripped out and the glossy colored pages were left!

But, to the point, when the catalogs were all gone, there was always a couple of buckets of cobs. Most of the cobs were a reddish-brown color, but some were a creamy white. I asked my grandpa what the difference was and with a wink he told me, "First you use a brown one and then you use a white one to see if you need to use another brown one." I was mortified at the time, but have since seen packages of 2 brown and 1 white cob packaged with that saying, for sale in some cheesy tourist shops. Anyway, I'd pick an old cob over a pine cone any day!
Glen Monaghan

By: Loner on 2/9/12 at 9:41

Nemo...stop...my ribs! I'm rolling on the floor here.

Here's a tip from an old hippie:

When forced to use paper that was not designed to be used as toilet tissue, (paper bag, newsprint whatever) always crumple the sheet thoroughly with your hands...uncrumple it and repeat the crumpling... until it's soft...then use it....if using newspaper or catalog pages, most of the transferable ink will come off on your hands, not elsewhere....flushing improvised toilet paper is another matter....don't plug your plumbing.

By: yogiman on 2/9/12 at 9:45

Captain Nemo,

We used corn cobs as kindling to start a fire. I used corn silk to "breath". I made cigarettes our of it with a brown paper bag. Cigarette papers were too darned expensive in the 30s.