Up for Debate: Can Giarratana do it again?

Friday, November 4, 2011 at 12:01am

What do you make of Tony Giarratana's bold proposal for three new downtown skyscrapers?

Filed under: City Voices

40 Comments on this post:

By: Captain Nemo on 11/3/11 at 10:39

Lets hope this is better plan than Maytown was done.

By: Captain Nemo on 11/3/11 at 10:40

We will have 2 to 3 hours of serr8d morning ejectamenta. Will it be half a page that we have to endure or a full page?

By: dargent7 on 11/4/11 at 5:10

With the new Convention Center and traffic as it is, it will get far worse.
There's no room for new roads, so we're stuck.
Still wish someone would "buy" or at least step in and fill that pit on Broadway & 17th.
It's not going to heal itself this century.
The city can sue the deadbeat developer later for the cost.

By: Captain Nemo on 11/4/11 at 5:21

These new buildings would be a good reason for better mass transit. Wait… could this be part of a conspiracy to build light rail?

By: treehugger7 on 11/4/11 at 6:38

I still haven't forgiven him for tearing down the Tennessee Theater. Saw BB King, Bobby Blue Bland and Arlo Guthrie there before he decided it had to go. It's hard to believe we need more buildings when we look at vacancy rates. As to the lake on west end, why can't the owners be billed to clean it up?

By: dargent7 on 11/4/11 at 6:52

T-7:
"The Summit" is in Cpt. 13.
So, until all the court proceedings are masturbated, no one can touch it.
My God, Beaman of Toyota, GMC, has millions in the bank and so does the whole corridor on the Broadway/ West End split.
I'm thinking of "Occupy"-ing the damn thing myself in a canoe, get media attention, and get 'er done. I want Regina Ricculio to personally interview me. Off camera, ala Herman Cain style.
It's prime real estate and everyone's just building around it.

By: Kosh III on 11/4/11 at 6:59

Downtown already has plenty of vacant office space and this will be another skyscraper's worth of office space.
That makes the Mayor's attempts to destroy the Fairgrounds for office space even less compelling than it already was.

By: BenDover on 11/4/11 at 7:30

Trying to mess up my view... with apartments, no less... screw him.

By: serr8d on 11/4/11 at 7:34

Shovel-ready jobs!, baby! Hell yeah!

We can borrow more money from China to pay for 'em. Hell, we already owe China the equivalent of the land that comprises the State of California as it is.

Ship all the Owwies and the LeftLibProggs to California (many of 'em call it home already), and give California to the Chinese, as payment for our national debt. Let the Chinese deal with fellow-traveler dirty socialists.

By: treehugger7 on 11/4/11 at 7:36

Thanks, Darg, for the info. If you decide to occupy, I'll bring you food, take pictures and wiggle my fingers.....Maybe we could turn it into a skating rink when it freezes.

By: serr8d on 11/4/11 at 7:42

I still haven't forgiven him for tearing down the Tennessee Theater.

I saw Kim Carnes perform there, her 'Bette Davis Eyes tour, way back in '81 or '82. What a show; what a gal. She's still hanging out with Michael McDonald & friends in Franklin now, last I heard.

By: Loner on 11/4/11 at 7:50

Good morning, Nashville!

Modonna!! Yous guys better knuckle under...Tony Giarratana's goons gonna breaka you legs! Wassamatta for yous?

Yous don't want no more skyscrapers? Too bad for yous...go screw!

By: Captain Nemo on 11/4/11 at 7:52

Maybe we can take them dirty commies and fling then into that hole on West End and give them a bath.

Dick Holder-

By: Captain Nemo on 11/4/11 at 8:10

When it was a giant church sign in someone else neighborhood, BenDover thought it was a good idea. Now someone wants to build a skyscraper in Ben’s neighborhood he thinks it is an injustice.

By: serr8d on 11/4/11 at 8:37

Heh. Loner broke the board.

Way to go, HTML Fail~!

By: serr8d on 11/4/11 at 8:38

Hell, Loner, it's no where near 4:20, and you're already stoned~!

By: serr8d on 11/4/11 at 8:40

Here you go. Prophet Muhammed, fresh off of authorizing his brainless followers to firebomb Charlie Hebdo, visits the G20 summit and 'splains to Mr. Obama what Julia Gilliard actually means.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i294/serr8d/animation/obamasitandspin.gif

By: dargent7 on 11/4/11 at 8:42

T-7:
I can live on bread and water for 3 days.
But, all I ask is that Regina Ricullio is dropped down from a helicopter within 48 hours for a "Live" interview.
There's a, "Cure Homosexuality" (thru Christ/ God) article going on over at The Tennessean today. Front page.
IMO, if she can't cure the "affliction", no one can.
And I always fancied Sara Dorsey.

By: BenDover on 11/4/11 at 8:52

By: brrrrk on 11/4/11 at 9:02

What's with all this Italian writing?

By: govskeptic on 11/4/11 at 9:04

Ground breaking in just 10 yrs. Stand by for incentive package to
be announced! Mean while at the G-20 meeting the President of
Germany tell President Obama they don't need his advice on
Government financing! She's a tough ole bird.

By: brrrrk on 11/4/11 at 9:05

Captain Nemo said

"When it was a giant church sign in someone else neighborhood, BenDover thought it was a good idea. Now someone wants to build a skyscraper in Ben’s neighborhood he thinks it is an injustice."

Sort of says it all, doesn't it?

By: Captain Nemo on 11/4/11 at 9:08

Where is the link gov?

By: BenDover on 11/4/11 at 9:09

Since apartment occupancy is fungible; a gain in one place will result in further demise in another resulting in a net negative effect for the city:

http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/stories/2010/02/22/story4.html?page=all

By: Captain Nemo on 11/4/11 at 9:28

That is true Ben. Nashville has been over built for years, but that does not mean that it will always be like that. Giarratana has big Flamboyant plans like May Town, but are too far ahead of there time or in the wrong place.

However I still would like to know why you make the difference your neighborhood and someone else?

By: BenDover on 11/4/11 at 10:16

I don't think I supported the sign, Nemo... except maybe something like saying 90' sign would help get God's message out.

I remember commenting too about looking it up on google maps and it being a wee church for such a big sign.

In any case it's not just a NIMBY but also the expectation that the buildings were to decline in height down to the river based on the original SoBro plan.

By: Captain Nemo on 11/4/11 at 10:27

Then I apologize for my error Ben, I misunderstood you yesterday.

I agree about the original SoBro Plans. The tallest building in the city core should be seen and not overshadowed by later buildings.

B/T/W NIMBY also means Nice In My Back Yard.

By: Kosh III on 11/4/11 at 10:42

Ben
It's not a "wee" church. It's a big facility on a large plot of land with a huge fountain out front.
I think I must be the only one here who's actually been there although it's been several years. I hope they finally got rid of the hideous burnt orange carpet.!!!

By: BenDover on 11/4/11 at 12:24

It didn't seem that big Kosh but I could be wrong. I didn't see the fountain in the Google map photos.

By: judyboodo@yahoo.com on 11/4/11 at 12:41

My fathers office was in the Sudekum Building. It was the most attractive example of 20th century art deco that Nashville had. I watched many a Christmas and Fire Prevention parades from his windows. It was a shame it was destroyed. Especially for a place to build Nashville's ugliest building.

By: Captain Nemo on 11/4/11 at 1:51

judy-

There have been a lot of old beautiful buildings torn down over the years for far less. Some have been reduced to parking lots.

By: brrrrk on 11/4/11 at 2:15

Ain't this a load of crap.....

Michigan's 'Matt's Safe School Law' Allows Bullying With Religious, Moral Reason

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/04/michigans-matts-safe-schools-law-allows-bullying_n_1076494.html]

This basically gives those who hate based on "moral values" carte blanche to beat the hell out of anyone they hate.

By: BenDover on 11/4/11 at 2:38

No it doesn't. It just clarifies that it's not a crime to criticize homosexuality as immoral if that's what your religious beliefs are.

By: brrrrk on 11/4/11 at 2:44

BenDover said

"No it doesn't. It just clarifies that it's not a crime to criticize homosexuality as immoral if that's what your religious beliefs are."

How much are you willing to bet that the law won't be used to justify violence?

By: BenDover on 11/4/11 at 2:50

How? That's a stupid assertion. Violence is illegal already... always has been. They were trying to make it illegal to tell someone that you believe homosexuality is immoral. That's the thought police right there and I'm not ready for it. I think political correctness has carried us far down that road already without making it illegal.

By: BenDover on 11/4/11 at 2:55

Capitalism is objectively NOT immoral. For all its flaws it is the one system that has proven to advance society, create excess and care in the best way for the largest number of people possible.

Do you want someone to pass a law throwing you in jail for saying capitalist are immoral.

By: brrrrk on 11/4/11 at 3:09

Ben,

Let's make a distinction here.... there's a difference between Free Enterprise and Capitalism, and Free Enterprise is what has driven the growth of this country. Capitalism in it's pure form is based on the idea of making money off of the labor of others.

By: yogiman on 11/4/11 at 3:20

BenDover,

The majority of the laws being passed today, especially at the national level, is just one more step to government control to rule the people.

By: BenDover on 11/4/11 at 3:33

Whatever... the point still holds, brrrrrrk.

By: Loner on 11/4/11 at 4:48

Evening wrap-up:

Back home tonight. It's good to be home. New York is a big state...over 4 hours of hi-speed NYS Thruway driving from Rochester to Albany. It was a nice drive, the weather was great and the traffic was moderately light.

The 4:20 Award goes to Yogiman. Bravo!

Not many posts today.

Sorry about the Italics, I forgot to type in the HTML thing for taking off Italics...that buggers the board. Ben Dover corrected my error, thanks, Ben. Of course Serr8d was right there to diagnose the problem....over-medication. The truth is, I was cold stone sober...in a hotel room - smoke free hotel, of course. I was in a hurry to check out...haste makes waste...my bad.

That error may have been Divine retribution for my attempt at a Tony Soprano line...I'm sure that your Tony Giarratana is a fine, upstanding, articulate and charming fellow. My attempt at humor was somewhat off-key and for that I also apologize...I'll try to clean up my act...it was a lack of medication related incident.

I'm OK now. Have a great weekend!