Up for Debate: Council speaks out; state may compromise

Wednesday, February 20, 2013 at 2:12am

The Metro Council again voiced its disapproval of legislation that would allow a state charter authorizer to sidestep local authority in Davidson and Shelby counties. Ahead of a General Assembly vote on the bill, what (if any) compromise do you see on the issue?

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By: Ask01 on 2/20/13 at 5:29

I see the state, feeling the need to squash any defiance from what they consider insignificant, local, hayseed opposition totally ignoring any idea of compromise.

Mayor Dean will be, as I always believe, useless, as he seems to be sucking up to whomever might be able further his political aspirations.

I look for Nashville and Memphis to be made an example of, humbled before the state and the majority party of smaller and less intrusive central government.

By: govskeptic on 2/20/13 at 6:27

Since two of the biggest, worst performing, and most expensive per pupil systems in
the state continue to make no or exceedingly slow progress, the State has waited
long enough to attempt some change. The establishment balks, big surprise.

By: Loner on 2/20/13 at 6:44

Good morning, Nashville.

Metro is right to stand its ground on this issue; Kevin Huffman, Gov. Haslam and Mayor Dean have conspired to hose Nashville....local taxpayers will have to fund the unfunded, state-mandated, mediocre, charter schools being shoved down your throats.

This is an insider deal all the way...the mayor's wife is a wealthy coal-mining heiress and she is pushing this lousy idea behind the scenes... and her cousin, a Mr. Deloache, is the local developer who will be cashing in on the proposed charter schools...it's a sweetheart deal and a family affair.

This is how your mayor repays the voters who elected him with an 80% majority...he thinks that he has a mandate to rule, like some sort of coonskin cap-wearing emperor. Throw this bum at the next opportunity....the man is dirty.

By: Loner on 2/20/13 at 6:50

Typo: s/h/b "Throw this bum OUT at the next opportunity....the man is dirty."

Starting off the day without my meds wasn't such a hot idea.....gimme five.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 7:00

Right or wrong, the State has no right to interfere in this matter. The citizen elected the School Board members and it should be the same citizens to make the decision and not over zealous politicians.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 7:02

Shut up yogi.

By: yogiman on 1/26/13 at 3:13
dumba$$, you couldn't even pass a spelling test, let alone a test of intelligence.
Want to try one? Check on google or bing and take a test.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/26/13 at 3:33
I took the test yogi and a made a 100.

By: yogiman on 1/26/13 at 7:30
I feel so humiliated, dumba$$, to get beat by an idiot as ignorant as you.

Your own word says I am smarter than you, yogi.

By: dogmrb on 2/20/13 at 7:05

Sometimes a view from a distance allows one to see the bigger pixture. Obviously, Loner has distance.

This is an interesting view too: So why do hedge funds so favor charter schools?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/15/1187346/-So-why-do-hedge-funds-so-favor-charter-schools

By: BenDover on 2/20/13 at 7:06

Methinks the Citypaper editors are obsessed over the idea that Nashville outsources some of its education responsibilities. Pure statist collectivist emotion on parade.

By: Loner on 2/20/13 at 7:06

But not as smart as Boo Boo.

By: Loner on 2/20/13 at 7:13

Good morning, Ben...you wrote: " Pure statist collectivist emotion on parade." I agree...on both sides of the issue.

Nashville should draw up articles of secession...just to ruffle the tea-baggers' plumage...it would make the international news....Rome, Carthage, Athens...Nashville....City-states are back!

By: BenDover on 2/20/13 at 7:13

I wonder if we suddenly found out this was a Bill Gates enterprise to improve education. Would his good intentions wash away the stench of profit motive and market competition from the venture?

By: Rasputin72 on 2/20/13 at 7:17

LONER is preaching a sermon this morning that deserves a bigger audience than 13 to 15 people.

By: Loner on 2/20/13 at 7:22

Thank you. dogmrb, for the kind word and the excellent link. It adds credence to my stated views on this issue.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/20/13 at 7:26

dogmrb, that is a good question. Studies have shown that charter schools do not necessarily perform any better than public schools and the state should not override a publically elected school board. That is over-stepping.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 7:27

The 1% brain power of yogi comes in from the cold, to brag about his great earnings in Monopoly Money. Take it away Raspy old boy.

By: Loner on 2/20/13 at 7:29

By: Rasputin72 on 2/20/13 at 7:17

LONER is preaching a sermon this morning that deserves a bigger audience than 13 to 15 people.

Amen, Brother Rasputin...from your lips (fingertips) to the NCP Editor's ears (screen)....I want a column!

Unless there is a drug test required for NCP columnists...in that case, forget about it.

BTW, did you ever find your missing organ?

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 7:34

Ben, I doubt that Bill Gates is that kind of person? Shouldn’t you mean Donald Trump?

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 7:35

Good link dogmrb.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 7:38

Loner wants to know if Raspy found his missing organ. I think yogi has been playing with it.

By: Loner on 2/20/13 at 7:39

Ben: Privatization in the prisons and in the military has lead to abuse and corruption. What makes you think that privatization of this government function, (public education), is any less prone to exploitation, graft, insiderism, cronyism and abuse?

By: Loner on 2/20/13 at 7:46

As I said yesterday, let the Joe C. Davis Foundation fund the Great Hearts experiment in Nashville; it's their baby.... leave the already burdened taxpayers out of this.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 7:48

I was surprised that Rasputin did not take the Handle, Deep Throat.

By: Loner on 2/20/13 at 7:54

Mayor Dean claims to be the "Education Mayor" of Metro Nashville. His solution to the declining public school system is to pull funding out of the existing system and spend that taxpayer-generated money on an educational experiment in which his wife's family has a vested interest. The mayor seems like a nice enough guy, but this is an orchestrated song & dance, my friends...do not be fooled by lofty rhetoric...this is a scam....a sham...a flimflam.

By: StephenII on 2/20/13 at 8:04

Why is everyone opposed to 'our' elected State officials having a hand in managing our Education system? Where is the outrage over the Federal Government having Both hands in managing all aspects of our daily lives - including our local Education System. It seems the wrong point is being debated.

By: slacker on 2/20/13 at 8:15

Davidson & Shelby county public schools, are not improving under current leadership.
The state has the authority to do this, why not try it?

http://nwpe.org/index.php/blog/670-opinion-charter-schools-in-tennessee-are-succeeding

By: Rasputin72 on 2/20/13 at 8:23

Surly, would be a good word to describe this mornings greetings.

However as being an anomaly to an underclass and socialist website I certainly do not expect an internet behavior to be much different from the culture from whence they came and intellectally and financially will never escape.

For those with transportation and a pittance of discretionary income, I say to you, Lottery tickets are your only hope.

Good day!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/20/13 at 8:26

slacker, my main concern is oversight. I agree that the for-profit prison system is a good example as to why we should be cautious.

By: yogiman on 2/20/13 at 8:33

Rasputin72 didn't want to take the Handle, Deep Throat away from you, dumba$$.

By: Loner on 2/20/13 at 8:33

Don't go away mad, Rasputin...oh wait...you already are mad...the mad monk of Czarist Russia...now an internet zombie, searching for his lost organ....an anomaly for sure.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 8:34

Good point slacker, but when has the State every done it right.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 8:36

By: Rasputin72 on 2/20/13 at 8:23

Surly, would be a good word to describe this mornings greetings.
However as being an anomaly to an underclass and socialist website I certainly do not expect an internet behavior to be much different from the culture from whence they came and intellectally and financially will never escape.

For those with transportation and a pittance of discretionary income, I say to you, Lottery tickets are your only hope.
Good day!

Translation;

Cluck, cluck

By: Loner on 2/20/13 at 8:41

Welcome to the board, Stephen.

Stephen is outraged, "over the Federal Government having Both hands in managing all aspects of our daily lives ".

Sounds like a states rights man. Apparently, Stephen prefers the state government of Tennessee having Both hands in managing all aspects of our daily lives....he is not a city rights man...or a human rights man, he's a states rights man....am I right on that, man?

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 8:41

By: yogiman on 2/20/13 at 8:33

Rasputin72 didn't want to take the Handle, Deep Throat away from you, dumba$$.

What a hick dork you are yogi. I alread have a handle and you don’t seem to remember it. I suppose that having crap for brains make you forgetful.

Now go lick your dogs,

By: slacker on 2/20/13 at 8:46

This debate is actually a pride issue.. IMO. City officials that oppose this, have trouble admitting the obvious... status quo ain't working.
I think the Mayors intentions are honorable.. and as Blanketnazi2 mentioned, this really needs to be well monitored.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 8:49

yogi, I know this will be a straight for you to understand this, but when Rasputin makes comments like ("as being an anomaly to an underclass and socialist") that he is talking about you too.

By: Loner on 2/20/13 at 8:55

Slacker....remember, Eric Burdon & the Animals: "I'm just a soul, whose intentions are good....Oh, Lord, please, don't let me be misunderstood...."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62XCUe79nmw

By: Kosh III on 2/20/13 at 8:56

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-02-19/top-court-justices-signal-support-for-monsanto-on-patents

A much more significant issue with long range negative effects.
It's hardly a suprise that the Court is favoring rich corporations at the expense of the rest of us.

Loner???

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/20/13 at 8:59

yogi can't comprehend when Rasp is insulting him. All those "big words" confuse him. Maybe if certain words were "italianized" it might help.

By: budlight on 2/20/13 at 9:01

I decided that the world does not need GUN control. It needs SELF control. Too many people are shooting off guns and shooting off at the mouth. I am puzzled why someone with the Bladerunner's ability and good life would through it all away. No SELF control. And then Mindy McCreedy who was talented, beautiful, had 2 little boys and yet she did not exercise SELF control in many ways in her life.

Somehow, some way, some body has to come up with a better way. I just read a story that in Guam, a guy was mad at someone; drove his car into a crowd of shoppers and then got out and stabbed some to death. These stories are sickening. No SELF control.

When is it all going to end? I do not believe gun control will end it, or else Chicago and others with those stiff gun control laws would be the safest cities in the world.

On the topic, the Mayor thinks he's been annointed, not elected. Schools should be an extension of the parents - not the parent. Parents should be working more with their kids. You can see the difference when they do.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 9:06

Loner, I find Raspy indignant departure rather laughable. He comes on this board, and be little all and wonder why we just don’t except his ill-disciplined manner with acceptance. But then with his genetic back ground and being mentally equal to yogi, he has no other means of expressing himself.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 9:10

By: budlight on 2/20/13 at 9:01
I decided that the world does not need GUN control. It needs SELF control. Too many people are shooting off guns and shooting off at the mouth.

Then stop it, bud!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/20/13 at 9:10

bud, according to studies Nashville is more dangerous per capita than Chicago. Check out this link of most dangerous cities:

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/crime-rates/top100dangerous/

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 9:12

No he doesn't Blanket. Understanding is too big of a word for yogi.

It seems that I have to remind him more and more about this fact.

By: yogiman on 1/26/13 at 3:13
dumba$$, you couldn't even pass a spelling test, let alone a test of intelligence.
Want to try one? Check on google or bing and take a test.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/26/13 at 3:33
I took the test yogi and a made a 100.

By: yogiman on 1/26/13 at 7:30
I feel so humiliated, dumba$$, to get beat by an idiot as ignorant as you.

Your own word says I am smarter than you, yogi.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/20/13 at 9:15

Very true, Nemo.

Gun control won't solve the problem 100% but it will help. I don't think there is a single solution to the problem. It's going to take more than one approach.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 9:15

Blanket, not to mention the bad driver.

By: slacker on 2/20/13 at 9:15

Loner, I remember them well..
If those cats are still alive, they should be in the ambulance convoy en route to ''Bonnaroo''

By: Captain Nemo on 2/20/13 at 9:18

There never is a silver bullet, Blanket. It seems that too many people thing that all of the problems should be solved in an hour, just like it is done on TV.

By: slacker on 2/20/13 at 9:23

nazi, if we all move to the safe promised land... Chicago..we'll all freeze our arse off
We'll have to Toddle 24/7 to stay warm.

By: slacker on 2/20/13 at 9:25

I'm ''Toddlin'' right now..

By: Loner on 2/20/13 at 9:38

Kosh: Great article and you are right, this is a big deal and the ramifications go beyond the seed industry and farmers....it's about protecting intellectual material from piracy....it's a thorny issue and both sides have their well-reasoned arguments....but I would side with the SCOTUS on this one....after all, the farmer could always use Non-Round-Up-Ready seeds as an alternative....Monsanto spent years and over a billion to produce the Round-Up-Ready seeds, they should be rewarded for that in a fair and equitable manner.

Pirated seeds....patented seeds....what a world, eh? Maybe we should let the Old Testament decide this one too? Must be a Biblical passage that applies....here it is:

Psalm 126:6 ESV

"He who goes out weeping, bearing the seed for sowing, shall come home with shouts of joy, bringing his sheaves with him. "