Up for Debate: Councilman takes to tweeting

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 2:06am

What do you think of Councilman Josh Stites' comments on Twitter regarding the chamber? Is it OK for a councilman to air such thoughts that way? Is he right or wrong?

 

162 Comments on this post:

By: brrrrk on 5/17/12 at 3:14

And while we're at it Ben, give me an example of a single country that doesn't have rules dictating how their markets are supposed to operate.

By: BenDover on 5/17/12 at 3:15

You all went straight to the polar Dickens straw-man with Loner referencing it directly.

Is the man a hypocrite for wanting a slice of pizza?

By: brrrrk on 5/17/12 at 3:19

I see that the right is going to try to paint Obama with the Reverend Wright brush again.... I hope they do, then we can bring up the fact that while Mitt was in his 30's he belonged to a church that still didn't allow blacks.

By: brrrrk on 5/17/12 at 3:20

And I'll ask again Ben, give me an example of a single country that doesn't have rules dictating how their markets are supposed to operate.

By: BenDover on 5/17/12 at 3:26

No one has said so, brrrk. I've answered that question before. We are not arguing absolutes but, instead, direction. Right now we do arbitrarily redistribute wealth through the tax code... and redistribute wealth with discriminating factors via our social safety net.

Is the man a hypocrite for wanting a slice of pizza?

By: brrrrk on 5/17/12 at 3:32

BenDover said

"So arbitrary redistribution is a better arbiter and a better driver of a free society than the free market?"

Give me a break.... you constantly BANG the free market drum...

By: BenDover on 5/17/12 at 3:33

... and that was a pretty lame 4:20 btw.

By: brrrrk on 5/17/12 at 3:34

And now you're avoiding the issue because you've been busted by the fact that there is not and never has been a free market.... outside of the possibility of a commune. But even that commune must deal with the outside world.

By: BenDover on 5/17/12 at 3:35

As a direction from where we are... not an absolute. The absolutist strawmen are such a weak crutch. Find another line please.

By: BenDover on 5/17/12 at 3:38

Now, is the man a hypocrite for wanting a slice of pizza?

By: brrrrk on 5/17/12 at 3:44

BenDover said

"So arbitrary redistribution is a better arbiter and a better driver of a free society than the free market?"

No, but a man who demands 90% of the pizza when he is 1% of the people eating the pizza, regardless of how much of the pizza he paid for, is a greedy bastard for the sake of greed.

By: BenDover on 5/17/12 at 3:52

I don't think you can make that case in our system today. We have a highly progressive tax system and the vast majority of public benefits that are not applied equally to everyone are indexed such that they are unavailable to wealthy people.

Unless some illegal collusion or cronyism is going on the person who earns more will pay substantially more for the services of society. They also are the source of the bulk of charity and altruism in society.

The earlier charge of hypocrisy from multiple directions is wholly without merit.