Up for Debate: Councilman's 'roundtable' meetings

Friday, June 8, 2012 at 12:37am

Councilman Steve Glover has scheduled public "roundtable" meetings at his office to discuss Mayor Karl Dean’s proposed budget with council colleagues to look for ways to reduce the proposed 53-cent property tax increase. Do you think this is a good and potentially productive idea, too little too late, or simply a convolution of the process? Do you think similar meetings should be held more often on other topics?


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102 Comments on this post:

By: yogiman on 6/8/12 at 3:31

There's nothing wrong with public meetings as long as they are open to the public and advanced notice of such meetings are given to the public before they begin.

By: house_of_pain on 6/8/12 at 4:29

Howdy, folks. I ran into d7 at the market yesterday, and he chastised me for my extended absence. Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated.
Have a great weekend.

By: dargent7 on 6/8/12 at 4:52

I was good to see "house". But he's covering up where we actually met.
It was really at Miranda's lounge in the lube section. Not at all similar to Pep Boy's car lubes.

By: dargent7 on 6/8/12 at 5:05

Weekend Update: The Tennessean just started charging $12.00 a month to access any story, op-ed, LTE's in their paper's Internet Ed.
Their circulation has dropped like everyone's, and these clowns don't want their internet edition for free.
The LTE's were always good, but the same sociopaths always responded. You wouldn't believe the b.s. attitudes they hold.
Just as well. Good-bye.

By: Loner on 6/8/12 at 5:13

Good morning, Nashville.

Good to see House_of_Pain posting again.

Had a great time at camp for the past 8 days.....stayed off the internet the whole time.

As far as the UFD topic of the day, I have no comment other than to say that it must be a very slow news day in Nashville this morning....a Councilman schedules a couple of meetings...so what? It's all just grandstanding anyway.

By: Rasputin72 on 6/8/12 at 5:17

I think the roundtable discussion will prove pointless. No one runs for public office that has a clue as to how to run a business. In the public sector these people turn to the brain matter at hand. Raising taxes is to them much easier than making ends meet.

By: Loner on 6/8/12 at 5:19

$12/month to access the Tennessean online? You can blow taps for that idea.....Dead On Arrival....IMO.

Darge, I'm going up to Northport, MI next week....Army buddy reunion....ever been up there? It's a ten hour drive from here.....looks like a scenic area.

By: Ummm... on 6/8/12 at 5:24

Welcome back, Loner. Same old, same old here. Uninteresting topics, insane rants by Yogi, etc., etc.

By: Loner on 6/8/12 at 5:26

Here's the big story of the day from Music City:


There are some things in this life that money simply cannot buy.....good health is one of them.

By: Loner on 6/8/12 at 5:30

Thanks, Ummm, it's good to be back here....troll droppings notwithstanding,

By: gdiafante on 6/8/12 at 5:31

Government shouldn't be run as a business. That's some of the reason why we're in this mess. Everyone keeps runnning their mouth about the intellectual deficit in this country...well it extends to business. Case in point: Wall Street.

As far as the round table...purely symbolic. Give the people the impression that they're involved in the process...make 'em happy. I do the same thing when my kids are upset...I distract them or make them think they're making a decision, when they're not. They buy it, Nashville will too.

By: dargent7 on 6/8/12 at 5:33

Northport? Never heard of it. What's it next to or close to that I may of heard of.
On the lake(s)? Going fishing or water skiing?

re: Bob Welch. Didn't know he lived in Nashville, or where. Peter Green's Mac was 10x better than the commercial Stivie Nicks/ Buckingham edition.
"Then Play On" and "Kiln House" are fantastic. (cir. 1972-75).

By: Loner on 6/8/12 at 5:38

Gd is right, government should not be run like a business, because it isn't a business....when we try to privatize government functions, you get sweetheart contracts...like the Corrections Corp. SNAFU.....or the Haliburton gravy train effect.

"Deregulation" and "Privatization" are the battle cries of the the One-Percenters and their dull-witted dupes....we tried that crap and it backfired.

By: Ummm... on 6/8/12 at 5:39

d7- I share your esteem for the early Fleetwood Mac music, but Peter Green left the band (and the planet, really - way too much acid) in 1970, right before Bob Welch joined in 1971.

By: Loner on 6/8/12 at 5:43

Northport is between Lake Huron and Lake Michigan...on a little spit of land....I think it's a resort type of place for high rollers....our host is quite wealthy, as I understand it....one of the "Magnificent Seven" (our old comcenter gang) made good, or so it seems....I better pack some Grey Poupon.

By: gdiafante on 6/8/12 at 5:46

Loner, ask Raspy about the proper etiquette when in the presence of a 1%er. I've heard that you can't look them directly in the eye and you must bow upon entry and exit or you'll be sorry...

By: dargent7 on 6/8/12 at 5:57

"Ummmm": When you google "Then Play On" and "Kiln House" no mention of Bob Welch. "Oh Well" is incredible.
Just Peter Green, Mick Fleetwood on drums (talk about acid), and McVie doing backing vocals. Buckingham, too.
I lost both CD's in San Diego. Probably get them at McKay's.

By: dargent7 on 6/8/12 at 6:03

L'ner: "is between"?
Lake Mich. in on the west side and Huron is on the east. Only 650 miles apart.

By: Ummm... on 6/8/12 at 6:03

d7- Buckingham joined the band at the same time as Stevie Nicks- he definitely wasn't there for "Oh Well." Welch was a major factor in "Future Games" (a great album), and "Bare Trees" (another winner).

By: Loner on 6/8/12 at 6:04

Good idea, Gd.

Hey, Rasp, are ascots back in style? Should I take some Cuban cigars to the shindig, or is that passe? I got my Navy blue, brass-buttoned blazer out of mothballs...the white slacks and boat shoes should set off my image nicely....any feedback on that?

By: yogiman on 6/8/12 at 6:07

"Say" what you wish about me, Ummm, it's easy to consider the source and ignore it. I must say I'm simply trying to educate idiots like you on the usurper in our Oval Office.

My biggest question is: Are they also in the communist party with him? If not, how can reasonably intelligent people so easily accept someone in our President's office they don't even know and who refuses to identify himself to the point of using fake papers for identity purposes?

I'm still trying to figure that out. Can you tell me why?

By: Loner on 6/8/12 at 6:10

Darge, here's the Google Map image:


It's actually on Lake Michigan...Grand Traverse Bay on one side...Lake MI on the other side.

By: Loner on 6/8/12 at 6:14

I thought the link would take you to a view of Northport, MI...apparently, it is a generic link. Looks like a good place to fish....or drink like one.

By: dargent7 on 6/8/12 at 6:17

L'ner: I know it from memory. Traverse City is way up North, along Lake Michigan.
Lake Huron is on the Detroit side, boarding Canada.
As a young faux black child, I vacationed on Lake Huron.

By: Ummm... on 6/8/12 at 6:21

Yogi called me an idiot. Now I can wear that badge of honor like you other normal folks.

By: gdiafante on 6/8/12 at 6:29

Now see Loner, didn't you miss this...I bet while you were away you didn't hear "usurper" once...I thought I did, but it was just a cat puking.

By: dargent7 on 6/8/12 at 6:29

How's the resident "5150" doing on that Romney family tree and ancestory project?
How's he comming along on the Mormon cult?
How's he doing on Bain Capital and how many cos. they carved up, broke up, sold off, bankrupted, and how many thouseands of employees lost their jobs?
Yet, Romney is running on, "I create jobs".
I'll take the Marxist Obama over him any day of the week.

By: dargent7 on 6/8/12 at 6:32

My personal favorite is, "usurpation".
He can't even spell what he does at adult bookstores.

By: gdiafante on 6/8/12 at 6:33

Yogi has problems with family trees that have more than one branch.

By: BenDover on 6/8/12 at 6:54

This is just a meeting for show. They will pass the tax increase and it will be for the maximum amount available without triggering the referendum.

By: dargent7 on 6/8/12 at 6:54

Yogi has a problem with Obama attending school in Indonesia. Since he went overseas, he renounced his US citizenship.
When Rhode Scholars go to Oxford England to study, like Clinton did, they also renouce their citizenship.
McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone. Just ouside Detroit.
Romney's dad was born in Mexico. Obama's in Kenya.
Romney was born in Detroit and Obama in Honolulu.
Yet, one is a "natural born citizen", the other is a nationalized citizen.
Something like that.
It's getting to the point where we should just hire the President of Toyota to run America.
American bred Presidents are either too stupid, corrupt, or incompetant to run a 350 million person entity like a co.

By: govskeptic on 6/8/12 at 7:13

Just another day of everything turning toward Yogi, what a waste of time but
if showing superiority is your thing, then fine. As to $12.00 per month for
the Gannett rag online, I'd predict a failure at $12.00 per year!

Since 2nd reading of the budget has already passed, one can expect nothing
but a little grandstanding by those seeking a different office or those
with a 2nd term to attempt in the future. The Mayor and his top council
leaders have had his budget and tax increase guaranteed for months now!

By: Rasputin72 on 6/8/12 at 7:24

LONER.......You can never go wrong with a blue blazer and gray slacks and a two color matching tie white or blue button down. I occasionally wear white slacks in May,June,July and August. I do not like white slacks and a sport coat of any type. When I wear white slacks it is always with a blue long sleeve shirt or very nice golf shirts.

I cannot say much for ascots as no one in my world ever wears one. I remember Guilford Dudley wearing one but Guilford was a man with ideas were similar to others I disagree with.
In the summer of course the shoe or choice for me is an Italian loafer with no socks. Church excluded of course.

I still prefer a suit and tie for anything related to business or pomp and circumstance.

By: Ummm... on 6/8/12 at 7:33

Rasputin- ever heard of a "rhetorical question?" (Geez Louise...)

By: yogiman on 6/8/12 at 7:35


You're saying Bill Clinton renounced his U.S. citizenship? What citizenship did he accept on his renouncement? I've never read, or heard, anything on that.

Oh, by the way; is Detroit boarding or bordering Canada?

By: yogiman on 6/8/12 at 7:36

Welcome to the club, Ummm. You have gained the honor of one among many on this site.

By: Rasputin72 on 6/8/12 at 7:40

Ummm.........Have you ever heard of "rhetorical satire" ? How about this? Has your resume ever attracted a call from a job opening paying more than $28,00 an hour?

By: yogiman on 6/8/12 at 7:41

Ugh. Wearing a tie, Rasputin72?

That's why I joined the Navy instead of one of the other services. We didn't have to wear a throat choker

By: gdiafante on 6/8/12 at 7:43

Gov, ever heard of the expression pot, meet kettle?

Rasp doesn't wear white after Labor Day...someone remind me, what is his position on gay marriage?

By: gdiafante on 6/8/12 at 7:44

No, I've never had a job paying $28,00...whatever that is...and you say you went to a private school? Seems they're in as bad shape as public schools...

By: BigPapa on 6/8/12 at 7:45

Government can use some management techniques & hiring & employment practices but it can ultimately NOT be run as a business because there is no check on on government like there is on private business.

If you only hire your friends and cronies in private business, eventually you will go broke and out of business, that's not true in government. You can do that in government and the division or department just gets a reputation as a bad place to be, but it just keeps rolling along- doing it's job very poorly.

By: Rasputin72 on 6/8/12 at 7:49

gdiafante..........I do not believe in marriage because of two things. The first being that the failure rate is 50% or just about the same as a slot machine, The second is that the divorce laws are such that placing your money in a slot machine seems like a good thing to do.

Therefore I do not care whether a man marries another man, a woman another woman or if a man marries a chicken.

By: Rasputin72 on 6/8/12 at 7:53

Gdiafante.........Enlighten me please? What private school are you speaking of ? I obviously am unfamiliar with the school of which you speak or type?

By: gdiafante on 6/8/12 at 7:53

Well, Papa, the problem with that is that the government has a PR problem. It's chic right now to bash the government, its workers and everything related to it, so why would anyone who's qualified want to work for the government?

I think that the government should be streamlined, but, as with anything, it would cost money to do it. Again, it's chic to criticize anything related to government costs, so you can forget that idea too.

IMO, most government workers salaries are not high (you're thinking of the cronies you mentioned in your previous posts). The incentive to work there has always been the benefits, be it health care or pension. Now, both are under attack. If you're not going to offer competive salaries, better than average health care and long-term pensions, what's the point? A sense of duty?

Nope, remember, the government worker has been demonized...

By: bfra on 6/8/12 at 7:54

Logical folks on this board, better put your wading boots on!

By: BenDover on 6/8/12 at 7:54

Why did the chicken cross the road?

By: yogiman on 6/8/12 at 7:54


I don't know about Gov, but I've never hear said expression "pot, meet kettle'. I have heard, many times, "pot calling kettle black" when one person was making a negative comment about a person they disagreed with.

By: BenDover on 6/8/12 at 7:56

To avoid Rasputin's betrothal...

By: Ummm... on 6/8/12 at 7:57

Rasputin, I am shocked (shocked, I say) that someone as materialistic as yourself hasn't got a "trophy wife." It seems so much in keeping with your value system. (Translation: So you couldn't find a woman that would have you, eh?)

By: Rasputin72 on 6/8/12 at 7:58

I have no problem with every government worker making 200,000 dollars a year plus benefits galore. The problem that I see would be that the average worker outside the government is making an average wage of 25% less and with fewer benefits. It is these workers that pay the majority of the $200,000 dollars a year.through taxation.