Up for Debate: Council's substitute budget

Tuesday, June 4, 2013 at 12:30am

What do you think of the Metro Council's proposed substitute budget? Should the fairgrounds get a $200,000 subsidy?

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By: Loner on 6/4/13 at 4:40

Good morning, Nashville.

What do you think of the Metro Council's proposed substitute budget? Should the fairgrounds get a $200,000 subsidy?

Sounds like a mini-mutiny.

Mayor Dean has targeted the fairgrounds for "redevelopment"; the plan depends upon the fairgrounds failing economically...after that, Mayor Dean rides in a white horse to save the day with his sweetheart deals, with selected "developers"....this proposed cash subsidy might keep the fairgrounds in operation....Mayor Dean et al. want the fairgrounds to fail, so that they can proceed with their ambitious and lucrative plans.

By: bfra on 6/4/13 at 5:45

Karl's puppet council didn't go against the King without an angle! The Fairgrounds should get more than $200,000, which if an outside audit was done, could possibly be the end of Buckie's reign of handling Fairground's money & show why I say more.

By: Kosh III on 6/4/13 at 6:17

Why does the Arts Commission get an extra 50m? It already has a guaranteed funding stream. Doesn't it have enough art downtown?(and almost none elsewhere)

By: Kosh III on 6/4/13 at 6:21

The Fairgrounds should get at least half-million. If Dean wants to give city land to his corporate chums, give them the land at Shelby Bottoms. It's freeway close, level, close to a rail line and much larger than the Fairgrounds.

By: bfra on 6/4/13 at 6:21

Kosh III - I see probably Karl's buddie's junk downtown & called art, but have seen no art for all the money spent. Taxpayers are scammed again!

By: bfra on 6/4/13 at 6:24

There should be a through investigation & find out what kind of under the table deal Karl has for the Fairgrounds. Waterboard Buckie Dozier, he'll squeal! LOL

By: Captain Nemo on 6/4/13 at 6:46

There is nothing new about this. The council always votes their version budget in.

By: yogiman on 6/4/13 at 7:12

The council has to provide a budget to prove to the people they're earning their money and are worth having in office.

Nashville isn't alone on this subject.

By: Rocket99 on 6/4/13 at 7:36

What's considered art is in the eye of the beholder. Some like the roller coaster to nowhere while others think it's scrap metal from the other side of the river. Just the way it is.

By: yogiman on 6/4/13 at 7:46

Everyone has a different frame of mind; each seeing everything differently.

Do I see it differently when the IRS delayed or denied the Tea Party tax exempt but readily granted Council on American-Islamic Relatives when I see it as a betrayal to the American people?


By: Captain Nemo on 6/4/13 at 7:52

Agree Rocket99

I use to sit through Metro’s budget hearings and I was never completely satisfied with the total out come. The truth of it, there is no pleasing all of the people all of the time.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/4/13 at 7:53

You are still stupid, yogi.

By: yogiman on 6/4/13 at 7:54

Is anyone going to that meeting in Manchester tonight? It's going to be interesting. We should be able to learn more about what we can say about our enemies in our Constitution's 1st Amendment 'free speech' mode.

By: bfra on 6/4/13 at 7:56

Council members should pay more attention to the taxpayers that elected them than to their puppet master Karl Dean and his crooked ideas. If they are short of money, they could always enforce codes for more revenue. Drive around the city, any street, & you can see code violations 24/7.

By: yogiman on 6/4/13 at 7:56

But you've got me beat, dumba$$. You're way above the line on stupidity. Why? Simply because you are too ignorant to understand your ignorance.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/4/13 at 8:04

You are still stupid yogi.

By: yogiman on 6/4/13 at 8:13

Well, dumba$$, if you're so 'brilliant', prove it. Hell, you haven't proved anything else on this site, how about trying at least one time to prove your comment is correct.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/4/13 at 8:15

You are still stupid, yogi.

By: bfra on 6/4/13 at 8:15

Po ole yogi - tries to place his stupidity & downfalls on everybody else. Too stupid to realize that everyone knows how stupid he is, because he reminds us everyday.

By: yogiman on 6/4/13 at 8:16

Ah, the temperature is rising and I've had my coffee. Time to go out and get something done and give a couple on this site something idiotic to come up with.

'See y'all' later.

By: budlight on 6/4/13 at 8:47

By: bfra on 6/4/13 at 7:24
There should be a through investigation & find out what kind of under the table deal Karl has for the Fairgrounds. Waterboard Buckie Dozier, he'll squeal! LOL

By: bfra on 6/4/13 at 9:15
Po ole yogi - tries to place his stupidity & downfalls on everybody else. Too stupid to realize that everyone knows how stupid he is, because he reminds us everyday.

And of course, the brightest bulb on the planet cannot even spell the word "thorough".

What is a "through" investigation, bfra? Through what? Or are you just speaking in your native TN trailer park tongue?

Quit picking on Yogi when the plank in your eye is about the size of the Grand Canyon.

By: budlight on 6/4/13 at 8:51

This site should be taking notice of the "Additional Child Tax Credit" from the IRS being used by undocumented, aka illegal, immigrants to claim children who actually do not live on US soil but live in Mexico. It's a 4 billion dollar financial drain on the US taxpayers and these people are claiming relatives besides their own kids. Some of them are getting from $10,000 to $20,000 credit. On guy interviewed in Indiana said "well why not because we can do it". Two million undocumented workers taking the money to Mexico. Nice!

By: bfra on 6/4/13 at 8:53

po ole bud grundy can't understand a typo & never, ever, ever makes one! LMAO at the dupe!

By: dargent7 on 6/4/13 at 9:40

re: Stupidity
Yogi & Bud.
As God knows the place and time of your death, then He knew the two tornadoes He set down in Oklahoma City (2 last week, too) last week were going to kill a 26 year old mother and her 8 month old baby girl.
He wanted them up in Heaven, immediately, since they obviously lead a fulfilled life.
Romney believed he would be offered a Solar System upon his death, and you voted for that nut-case as President?
Obama was a "community organizer" who graduated from several colleges, taught at Harvard, attained a J.D degree, twice elected as president (even if he cheated) a proven track record...I'd take that over a guy who thinks he's gong to get a fu!ckin Solar System. But, hey, that's just me.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/4/13 at 9:56

It doesn't matter how much coffee yogi drinks, he is still stupid.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/4/13 at 9:58

9:52 bud was on a break after clocking in or she was posting on my dime or she has been fired already.

By: bfra on 6/4/13 at 10:16

Well Nemo, if bud has been fired, that is par for her!

By: yogiman on 6/4/13 at 10:16

I had to come in for a tool and cup of coffee and thought you 'intelligent' posters might want to see what that meeting in Manchester is all about this evening. If you're a Muslim, ignore it.

A man has raised the question: Can Muslims be good Americans? A good question and very interesting. The man's name is Jim L. Hendershot, Sr. and he questioned a friend about it who had worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. I would presume his friend learned the Muslim's beliefs to the T in his 20 years in Saudi Arabia. He was asked if a 'good' Muslim could be a good American. Here are his answers:

"Theologically - no.. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.

"Religiously - no.. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam. (Quran, 2:256) (Koran)

"Scripturally - no.. Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

"Geographically - no.. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

"Socially - no.. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

"Politically - no.. Because he mush submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.

"Domestically - no.. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:34)

"Intellectually - no.. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

"Philosophically - no.. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

"Spiritually - no Because when we declare 'one nation under God', the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names."

This religious war is much bigger than we know or understand and the Muslims have said the will destroy us from within. Have they made a gain recently?

I understand the meeting in Manchester tonight is to "educate" us the 1st Amendment's freedom of speech doesn't apply to us when making comments about Muslims.

By: yogiman on 6/4/13 at 10:27


If you prefer a usurper in office, so be it. But you claim he went to a bunch of 'big named' colleges and made some great performances at them. Tell me, where did you get that evidence on his college days?

Yes, he did get a lawyer's license but it was taken away from him. Do you know why? Because he lied when he applied for it. What was his lie? He claimed he had never had another name... except he claimed in his autobiography his stepfather adopted him and gave him the name Barry Soetoro.

You, young man, are proving your stupidity by accepting someone as your president when you don't even know his legal name and he refuses to give it to you. Or did he tell you but refuses to tell the rest of us?.

By: dargent7 on 6/4/13 at 10:30

" the Christian's God is loving and kind..."
Then why do tornadoes kill mothers and their children?
The Bible? 6 days to create the Universe?
See any Hubble telescope photos lately?

By: dargent7 on 6/4/13 at 10:42

Numb-Nuts: You think Columbia and Harvard University lets anyone IN, gives them a degree, a J.D, much less lets them teach, much less lets them be the Editor of the Harvard Law Review?
I mean, really, how stupid can you be?
Want a Solar System? Call Mittens Romney and then join the Mormon church.

By: Loner on 6/4/13 at 10:43

Hey, Darge...good to hear from the West Coast...things are cool but clear here.

Arguing with Bud & Yogi or Jugs is a waste of time and electrons...they are trolls.

New York state may be heading towards legal medical Cannabis...the legislature passed some measure recently that may get things rolling here on that...Son-of-Mario, our mafioso governor has gone on record as being against it and Mayor Bloomberg called medical marijuana a "hoax"....and they say that NY is a liberal state...BS!


By: pswindle on 6/4/13 at 10:45

The IRS did not deny the Tea Party, but they should have. All of this happened under a Bush appointment. He was head of the IRS until December, 2012.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/4/13 at 10:46

It maybe a waste of time to argue with the brain dead trolls, but I am having fun with them stupid butt hole babies.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/4/13 at 10:48

That doesn't matter to him pswindle. He lost the election and this is his way of whining.

By: Loner on 6/4/13 at 10:55

Yogi....Holy Wars Suck....Uncle Sam is a sucker who got sucked into the neo-Crusade to "liberate" Palestine. The Western nations wanted to create a homeland for the world's unwanted Jews....now the Jewish state is a nuclear scofflaw state with tremendous influence in the US Congress and over the POTUS....and the entire region there is descending into chaos and violence...the Crusades are back....in the nuclear age.....and you blame the Muslims.....Oy!

By: dargent7 on 6/4/13 at 11:37

Loner: Here it is a comfy 78 degrees.
Am moving back to San Diego in a few weeks...
It has "June Gloom" and don't see the sun for 30 days.
This bored has but only 3 or 4 lucid posters.
I remember the days 5 years ago where idiots like yogi, rasputin, and jugg-nuts didn't exist.
At least BudLite could have a coherent conversation.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/4/13 at 11:42

Not any more d7, bud comes and goes from nut to just crazy.

By: BenDover on 6/4/13 at 11:46

Well the yogi / budlight filter of those posts, and posts referring to those names in the first line got me to the bottom of the list in no time.

D'arge... our suffering in this world is of little matter. Without bad there'd be nothing with which to contrast the good. What matters is how we respond to good and bad.

New Pope says you don't even have to believe anymore and you can get to heaven through 'works' now... times must be gettin' tight at the Vatican.

Also you are missing Fanfare this week, D'arge. It's not overlapping with Bonnaroo this time so I expect the more adventurous red-necks will show up in the mud down in Manchester next weekend too.

By: Loner on 6/4/13 at 11:52

Ben, the nuns always claimed that suffering builds character...they were a bunch of characters....Sister Mary ______ was their name; building character was their game.

By: Loner on 6/4/13 at 11:53

Darge, the NCP never recovered from the Great Purge.

By: BenDover on 6/4/13 at 12:13

What do you think about the Pope saying works will get Atheists into heaven, Loner?

I've always heard that denial of the Holy Ghost and of Christ the Savior was the only unpardonable sin.

John 3:16 says "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.", which is pretty much the whole basis of Christianity.

In 14:6 Jesus is quoted saying, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." -- I guess he could have been referring to his Blood paying the price for all sin past and present.

In 20:27-29 Thomas had his doubts... but who doubts that Thomas, even with his lack of faith, is with the Lord? "Reach here your finger, and behold my hands; and reach here your hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said to him, My LORD and my God. Jesus said to him, Thomas, because you have seen me, you have believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. " Thomas needed proof yet those subsequent to have have no such proof and must proceed on faith.

I think it's an interesting contrast. Faith vs Works. What say you, loner.


By: brrrrk on 6/4/13 at 12:38

Riddle of Epicurus

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

By: Loner on 6/4/13 at 12:38

Interesting theological question, Ben...but, in my opinion, there is nothing logical about the theological; so, debating the validity or truth of two competing religious dogmas is an exercise in futility.

But, not to "cop out" on the question, let me say that I cannot envision there being a heaven for the devout believers in the divinity of Jesus of Nazareth, who also zealously put six million Jews to death in the camps, during the Holocaust.

I cannot envision or believe in a heaven for Homo sapiens....one person's pain is another person pleasure, for example.

I am a UU member...they call us, "the No-Hell church", because we do not believe that a loving God would condemn anyone to eternal damnation in the fires of Hell. We are a dogma-free church, but we do tend to agree on that as a bedrock position.

We do not think of ourselves as a "No-Heaven church", but perhaps we ought to..I'll ask our pastor about the "No-Heaven church" concept....sounds like sermon material.

Thanks, Ben....we needed that.

By: Loner on 6/4/13 at 12:47

Excellent post, Brrrk....a riddle indeed.

Did the Creator create evil? If not, who did?

Was Eve an afterthought? If so, there goes the omniscience claim.

If God needs us earth-bound human beings to worship Him, is he really omnipotent?

BTW, the Jewish Messiah myth never called for Messiah to be Divine...that's heresy, to Jews. it was a Jewish myth, not a pagan myth...gentiles ripped-off their myth, then re-wrote it.

By: brrrrk on 6/4/13 at 1:14

Loner said

"Excellent post, Brrrk....a riddle indeed."

If you find that interesting, read SUPERSTITION IN ALL AGES (1732). It's attributed to Father Jean Meslier, but I believe was actually written by Baron d'Holbach.

It's a concise, logical, and well thought out argument for Atheism. It's a free read here......


By: Rasputin72 on 6/4/13 at 4:21

LONER..........Intelligent mankind has been searching since communication began why an omnipotent required so much worship.

Is there really an omnipotent? Is there only an omnipotent in the in the teachings of of those interested in keeping the demons of mankind at bay?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/4/13 at 5:12

One thing is for sure, Rasputin want make it to heaven.

By: yogiman on 6/4/13 at 6:53

Did you mean Rasputin72 "won't" make it to Heaven or did you mean Rasputin72 "wants" to make it to heaven.

It sure would be great if anyone could understand what you're trying to post, dumba$$

I'm curious: Where did you go to school? Or did you even go to school? You seem to have flunked English because you can't spell and can't put a sentence together.

Did you learn with the hogs out behind the sty?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/4/13 at 6:58

You are still stupid, yogi.