Up for Debate: Court of Appeals on voter ID

Thursday, October 25, 2012 at 11:35pm

Do you agree or disagree with Thursday's ruling by the Tennessee Court of Appeals, upholding the state's voter ID law?

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169 Comments on this post:

By: gdiafante on 10/26/12 at 5:13

This is only the first step. They will revisit this and deal with the library card issue. I don't know why they don't just start retinal scanners or DNA testing, possibly exploratory surgery...

By: govskeptic on 10/26/12 at 5:32

Although a unanimous decision between these 3 judges, guessing that there was
a compromise to get there. Minority Judge insisting on the Library Cards as
valid in agreeing with other two judges on Photo ID's being valid. Appeal to
full Supreme Court concerning the Library card validity only. State law will
probably prevail over the Memphis ordinance. Order for one year of Spanish
language training for poll workers below age of 75 may be requirement.

By: Loner on 10/26/12 at 6:01

Good morning, Nashville.

It's no surprise that any attempt to suppress the vote would be considered "constitutional" in Tennessee....keeping certain people disenfranchised is a time-honored tradition in what was the Old Confederacy. Most of those pathetic backward states are functionally one-party states...they are solidly Republican....been that way since Tricky Dick reached out to the disgruntled Southern segregationists....now the Southern racists control the agenda of the Party of Lincoln.

The idea that a library card is sufficient ID must infuriate the Tennessee Republicans...literate people who frequent the local public library are the kind of people that the Republicans are trying to shut out of the system....the court's ruling on the library card issue must be particularly galling to TN's pious Governor....this mean-spirted voter suppression drive is Haslam's baby....his pet project....the born-again Governor is committed to keeping the darkies and the Hispanics out of the voting booths.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/26/12 at 6:03

You got that right Loner.

By: Loner on 10/26/12 at 6:14

I'm sure that somebody will call me names and try to defend this voter suppression drive, Captain Nemo, but it does not take a PHD in Political Science to recognize what is going on here...this is a naked attempt to keep certain people from exercising their constitutional rights....and the anti-democracy forces have been quite successful in the former Confederacy...there's lots of fertile ground for bigotry in those states....voter suppression in the South goes back to colonial times....this is back to the future.

By: yogiman on 10/26/12 at 6:15

You seeming to know so much about Tennessee having never lived here is amazing, Loner. Why have you spent so much time learning about us; jealous perhaps?

You call we Tennesseans segregationist. How do you know? I've lived in the North and every state I have lived in has also had segregationists, except by law.

By: gdiafante on 10/26/12 at 6:16

[click] ..!.

By: Loner on 10/26/12 at 6:17

The Republicans think that a library card is insufficient identification....a membership card in an all-white country club, however, would be sufficient.

By: Rasputin72 on 10/26/12 at 6:18

Every little victory for the tax base that supplies the "free stuff" is welcomed. It is a temporary victory as the hordes of mongrels,have nots and underclass continue to overpopulate the country.

As I write this post there are wannabees and class envy people trying to get into igovernment. Their objective is to find some way to stop the power of money. They realize that as long as some people have money in large enough sums that they can by-pass the quagmire of human failure that exists in this country.

By: Loner on 10/26/12 at 6:18

(click)

By: Captain Nemo on 10/26/12 at 6:21

You were right Loner, but it was a something that called you a name.

By: parnell3rd on 10/26/12 at 6:21

So loner, since a Library card is good enough to use to vote. Then, it shoud be also okay to use to board an airplane, buy beer, buy a gun, good enough to use as a drivers licence? Correct? I mean it says who you are right on the library card? I'm sure you had to show some other type of id just to get a library card.
And Loner the demoNcratic party was the party that voted in the laws that suppressed voting. If your a demoNcrat then that is your heritage too.

By: yogiman on 10/26/12 at 6:23

Loner,

Would you be ashamed to show a photo ID to prove your identity to vote? Are you ashamed to show it when you go buy your beer and cigarettes?

Are you just ashamed to identify yourself as a Dumbocrat when you vote? And wouldn't you like to know who you're voting for to be your President?

I guess we're quite different; I don't mind identifying myself and I want to know who in the hell is in that Oval Office, don't you?

Sorry, I guess not.

By: parnell3rd on 10/26/12 at 6:23

After all, it is a Library Card! If it's good enough for the Library, it's good enough for everything! In jail? Pull out your Library Card! I bet they will let you out!!!

By: parnell3rd on 10/26/12 at 6:24

I always show my voter ID card when I vote!!! I don't need no stinking library card!

By: Loner on 10/26/12 at 6:26

Enter: The Rasp. Another Johnny-one-note....his schtick shift simple six is burning oil; he's gotten a million miles out of the same old rant...thinks he's Thurston Howell III....suffers from Grey Pouponosis...he's trying to collect a settlement from the makers of Grey Poupon.....years of ingesting the yellow concoction has addled his cerebral cortex...he wants compensation for damages...his posts here are used as evidence in his ongoing lawsuit...I would testify that yes, the man is nuts....pay the man.

By: EDUNITED on 10/26/12 at 6:29

Gosh!! Hasn't this issue been litigated in every state that has passed a voter ID law? Hasn't the US Supreme Court approved several states' laws as Constitutional?
I think I would rather have to present a photo ID, which you must if you go to the bank, than to let the Black Panthers do the screening....like in Philadelphia. Voter supression is an issue like abortion: one of marginal substance, but high emotional value. American' opinion of abortion is ambivalent: it is a necessary evil. The voter ID flap is a distraction from issues like: jobs and the economy. Were it not for liberal fringe groups registering Mickey Mouse and the dead, there would not have been a push for voter ID laws by those right of center. The issue does have propagranda value for the Democrats because it distracts from the substantive failures of a political bloc to deliver on its promises, instead inflaming passions and blinding people to a more rational analysis of political issues.
Ed vanVoorhees
www.EvVMgt.com

By: Rasputin72 on 10/26/12 at 6:32

LONER........I have a number of interests which in all liklihood do not interest you or the "SIMPLE SIX" or that matter the general population.

I use this forum strictly to add an accent to the class warfare scheme of Barack Hussein Obama. I have for this forum no other purpose than to post my disdain for "all men are created equal" Nothing else.

By: Kosh III on 10/26/12 at 6:33

Loner doesn't have to live in TN to know that racism and segregation are alive and well.
I was born and raised in this state, I STILL see plenty of hate-mongering and discriminatory attitudes.
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Parn
You should read a history book or two: the racist Democrats of time past all moved to the GOP with STrom Thurmond as the most obvious example.
The Civil Rights Laws of the 60s were pushed by Democrats outside of the South e.g. Hubert Humphrey, and by LIBERAL and moderate Republicans like Lodge or Mathias. These Republicans were eventually purged from the GOP.

By: Kosh III on 10/26/12 at 6:34

Does this mean that ID for students in State Universities is now acceptable?

By: Loner on 10/26/12 at 6:36

Parnell3rd wrote: " I don't need no stinking library card!"....the Tea-bagger Republicans should print up T-shirts with those words emblazoned on the front....to show white solidarity...to galvanize the party's base.

Parnell listed a series of false analogies for library card identification....he also tried to use the old reducto ad absurdum debating technique...where are the heavy-weight right-wing debaters? Trolls and lightweights are all that remain of that once large and vocal herd.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/26/12 at 6:44

Loner, Rasputin is the leader of the insane four trolls.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/26/12 at 6:45

Kosh, you're trying to baffle them with facts again. ;)

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/26/12 at 6:47

It's interesting that the Dems of past moved to the Republican party and now the moderate Republicans are starting to vote for Dems. Look at the moderate Republicans who are endorsing Obama for 2012. The moderates are leaving now that the extremists have USURPED the Republican party.

By: gdiafante on 10/26/12 at 6:48

I use this forum strictly to add an accent to the class warfare scheme of Barack Hussein Obama. I have for this forum no other purpose than to post my disdain for "all men are created equal" Nothing else.

If that's the case, you fail miserably. This would make you a non-productive part of society. Please take the time to find the nearest exit and leave quietly. You don't want to disturb those who are productive. Chop chop.

By: Loner on 10/26/12 at 6:51

All of these Republican voter suppression schemes pale in significance, when compared with the King Kong of voter suppression monsters : The Electoral College.

The winner-take-all aspect of the states rights based scheme has acted as a deterrent to minority voting since the beginning of the republic....the system is undemocratic by nature and both major parties, the donors, and the major media are very happy with the current system....it makes their jobs easier and more profitable.

I hope and pray that Romney wins the popular vote...but loses the EC vote....just so the GOP gets a taste of 2000...in fact, I may vote for Romney in this solidly blue state, to protest the EC system....just kidding.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/26/12 at 6:52

Loner-

Rasputin clams to have been raised in a ghetto, but that is his way of glorifying his dull life. The area he crew up in is of low income families. There is no upper-class in his family tree, then or now.

By: gdiafante on 10/26/12 at 6:53

I always show my voter ID card when I vote!!! I don't need no stinking library card!

You show your voter registration card. That is not an ID card. If it were, why would there be a need for an ID law?

His elevator obviously doesn't go to the top floor.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/26/12 at 6:54

By: Rasputin72 on 10/26/12 at 7:32
LONER........I have a number of interests which in all liklihood do not interest you or the "SIMPLE SIX" or that matter the general population.

This is true, Rasputin’s interest is in stealing money from hard working people money.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/26/12 at 6:58

Will is the troll to correct my grammar?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/26/12 at 6:59

By: Loner on 10/26/12 at 7:51
All of these Republican voter suppression schemes pale in significance, when compared with the King Kong of voter suppression monsters : The Electoral College.

Very true. It's time to kick the Electoral College to the curb.

By: Loner on 10/26/12 at 7:01

Good point, Blanketnazi, Colin Powell has endorsed Obama....John Sununu claims that was a race-based thing, not a policy-based thing. Mr. Sununu is trying to make a comeback...so is John Bolton...if Mitt gets in, we can expect those two to be members of Mitt's cabinet or in the case of Sununu, possibly a USSC nominee...the neocons would retake the US Executive Branch, if the Bishop wins....holy war with Iran would follow within months.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/26/12 at 7:02

Yes let the candidates of both parties come to all 50 States and Territories and face the people.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/26/12 at 7:04

Q3 GDP: U.S. economy picks up

http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/26/news/economy/gdp-report/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/26/12 at 7:05

Loner, Sununu quickly "revised" his statement about it being race based. But initially, yes he did say that. But then he flip flopped. Imagine that.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/26/12 at 7:10

Ben’s theory is that they think Mitt will win. LOL

By: govskeptic on 10/26/12 at 7:13

Loner: Your graduation from the Al Sharpton School of Voter suppression is glowing
brightly. Can one not wonder if this "Voter suppression" campaign is not just
a well publicized gimmick by your party to get all minorities and the elderly to
dislike the Republican candidates in all races across the country. We know
it's working well with a large percentage of the base and an MSNBC favorite.

By: budlight on 10/26/12 at 7:15

"the born-again Governor is committed to keeping the darkies and the Hispanics out of the voting booths." comment from Loner the boner.

Loner, you libs always seem to think that everyone who does not think YOUR way, gets up every day with "darkies and the Hispanics" on their minds.

Of course, having people who are legally authorized to vote is not the concern here, is it? Or having people not vote 2 or 3 times is not the concern, is it? Having elections that are voted on by legally authorized citizens is not the concern, is it?

gdiafante on 10/26/12 at 7:53
I always show my voter ID card when I vote!!! I don't need no stinking library card!
You show your voter registration card. That is not an ID card. If it were, why would there be a need for an ID law?
His elevator obviously doesn't go to the top floor.

Hey stinkwad G, the voter registration card is actually one form of "additional" id under TCA2-7-112(c) as follows: "An expired PHOTO ID as per TCA 2-7-112(c) AND any one of the following: Current utility bill; bank statement; government check; paycheck; and ANY OTHER government document(s) that show the voter's name and address of registration. A Davidson County voter registration card is acceptable for this purpose.

Voters who fail to produce one of the forms of ID listed above must be given a choice to leave and return with one of the accepted forms of ID, OR they may cast a provisional ballot. They then have 2 business days after the election to present the proper documentation.

Many of them do not even return to have their vote validated. They just wanted to stir up trouble at the voting precinct.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/26/12 at 7:17

Good point gov, but that means that the Democrats are able to make the Republican do their bidding.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/26/12 at 7:19

The fourth troll waddles in.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/26/12 at 7:21

By: govskeptic on 10/26/12 at 8:13
Loner: Your graduation from the Al Sharpton School of Voter suppression is glowing
brightly.

Wow - this automatically registered on my shitometer! LOL

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/26/12 at 7:22

* Fraud by individual voters is both irrational and extremely rare.
* Many vivid anecdotes of purported voter fraud have been proven false or do not demonstrate fraud.
* Voter fraud is often conflated with other forms of election misconduct.
* Raising the unsubstantiated specter of mass voter fraud suits a particular policy agenda.
* Claims of voter fraud should be carefully tested before they become the basis for action

http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/policy_brief_on_the_truth_about_voter_fraud/

Yes, it is about voter suppression.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/26/12 at 7:23

bud says;

Loner, you libs always seem to think that everyone who does not think YOUR way, gets up every day with "darkies and the Hispanics" on their minds.

This old cow has a habit of saying what she mean, (but not the courage to do it herself) by saying it is someone else words and thoughts.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/26/12 at 7:24

"Mooooo," said the fat, old cow.

By: budlight on 10/26/12 at 7:25

By: Kosh III on 10/26/12 at 7:34
Does this mean that ID for students in State Universities is now acceptable?

Kosh under the Davidson County Election Commission guidelines of 2/01/12 it states:

Acceptable
TN driver license with your photo
United States Passport
TN Dept of Safety and Homeland Security photo ID
Photo ID issued by the fed. or any state govment, such as an employee ID from the US Dept of Energy with your photo
US Military photo ID, including a Veteran ID card
State Issued handgun carry permit card with your photo

PHOTO ID NOT ACCEPTABLE:
College student photo ID
Photo id NOT issued by the fed or state govt, such as discount club or bank card with photo (so no you can't use your Sam's club card)

WHO IS EXEMPT FROM PHOTO ID LAW?
Voters who: vote absentee by mail; who are residents in licensed nursing homes or assisted living centers who vote at those facilities; who are hospitalized; with religious objections to being photographed; who are indigent and unable to obtain a photo id without paying a fee.

So the rules are pretty flexible. Most people fit into one or more of those categories.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/26/12 at 7:26

Blanket, it has been tested in the dark corners of the paranoia minds of the fringe world.

By: bfra on 10/26/12 at 7:28

(Flush all troll's comments)

By: Captain Nemo on 10/26/12 at 7:29

LOL Blanket.

By: budlight on 10/26/12 at 7:30

Captain Hemroid, I always say what I want to say; it's free speech zone at CP.

I read more racial comments on this post coming from you all who think you're the only people who can think! You all always bring up race, trying to say that it's the conservatives who are racist. But really, why do you and your ilk dwell on it so much? It's your subliminal messages that really do scare me.

Obama even said that "If our people don't vote, I'll send Michelle after them". That is sick. "OUR PEOPLE"? I can't believe he can say "OUR PEOPLE". Who are his people? Are HIS PEOPLE all of America? Or is "HIS PEOPLE" just code for a specific race, gender or group? Who are HIS PEOPLE?

He said it; not me!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/26/12 at 7:32

Moooo.