Up for Debate: Dean administration's finances

Monday, April 8, 2013 at 3:18am

Do you agree or disagree with Emily Evans assessment of Metro's finances?

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108 Comments on this post:

By: Ask01 on 4/8/13 at 3:37

I believe Ms Evans is spot on with her assessment.

Mayor Dean and the Metro Council have been on a mission to spend the city / county into never ending debt. This isn't anything new. Mayor Bredesen did the same thing when he orchestrated the Oiler move to Tennessee and convinced taxpayers to build a stadium promising wealth and prosperity for all.

At least Phil let the citizens vote. Karl knew he was too poor a salesman to hoodwink the citizens, and didn't dare let the voters have a voice. (I suspect all the contracts had been let well in advance and the skullduggery would have been revealed if voters had rejected the MCC.)

I urge Emily to run for at least council at large, and consider the office of Mayor. We need someone at the helm who doesn't view the citizens as merely pockets to be picked.

By: Rasputin72 on 4/8/13 at 6:14

I laud the comments by ASKOI.

Karl Dean represents the purses of the Chamber of Commerce. He pays lip service to the underclass and working class.

He has expedited the exodus of families to adjacent counties through excessive property taxes.

It is too late to stop the damage Karl Dean has done to Davidson County. But it would be nice to see him gone.

In the meantime Belle Meade,Green Hills and Hillwood sleep.

By: Jughead on 4/8/13 at 7:38


By: Jughead on 4/8/13 at 7:40

I want every city to spend into bankruptcy, cut all services, riot, burn, and reemerge dedicated to making a perfect twinkie.

By: bfra on 4/8/13 at 7:44

The perfect twinkie didn't do so well, they went bankrupt!

By: govskeptic on 4/8/13 at 7:44

Emily Evans is one of the few serving on the Metro Council for all the right reasons.
Mainly shes not there for self financial or paid insurance interest. If you've ever
heard her speak on the subject, it's obvious she knows more than the Finance
Director on that subject and much more on how that Industry operates within
the market place. Like the old E.F. Hutton commercial: "When she speaks all
should listen". Record debt by this city needs an adjusting period before adding
anymore in my humble opinion.

By: BigPapa on 4/8/13 at 7:46

My criticism of Dean is that more and more he seems to look at making Nashville a great place to visit, but there's little regard to those of us that actually live here.

By: think on 4/8/13 at 7:50

I'm a big fan. I would definitely support her running for mayor.. I've never felt so poorly represented by local elected officials as I do now. I'm fighting my wife on the move to Williamson County, but I may give up that fight sooner rather than later if something big doesn't change in Metro. Evans might have what it takes to get us on the right track, starting with this disaster of a money pit that is these public schools.

By: bfra on 4/8/13 at 7:53

IMO Dean will enter into anything that HE personally can profit from. He is MONEY hungry!

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 8:02

Good morning, Nashville.

Do you agree or disagree with Emily Evans assessment of Metro's finances?

I agree.

The 585 million-dollar white elephant that she opposed is about to open....the convention business is hurting in general....and TN's crazy gun laws probably will discourage some convention planners from scheduling events in the Coonskin Cap state....but we shall see....maybe Mayor Dean has a secret plan to make the new convention center profitable...good luck.

By: Jughead on 4/8/13 at 8:06

The convention center will rock! Lotsa tax dollars, tourist spending, a vibrant downtown. And, you Neanderthals will still complain that Nashville is gittin too big fer its britches.

Chronic and pathetic complainers who do nothing constructive, and live to attack those who do.

By: BenDover on 4/8/13 at 8:08

My condo value is up 23% in 3 years. I may have to sell my house in the suburbs and buy something in Williamson Co now because of the looming tax consequences and piss-poor schools but right now everything's pretty sweet.

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 8:18

I hope that you are right, Jug....if not, the oppressed taxpayers will be on the hook for half a billion or so....let's hope that Mayor Dean's big gamble pays off....it's a crap shoot now....seven come eleven.....Dean's a high roller.....Rollin' the bones, bankrolled by the taxpayers....it's always easier to risk other people's money, as opposed to risking one's own.....good luck, you gambling fools.

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 8:20

Ben Dover plays Monopoly with real money.

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 8:27

All the gun nut organizations might consider Nashville for their convention venues...the Creationists too...the Defenders of Marriage might also find Nashville attractive....the Fetus-First anti-choice crowd might go for the MCC....the Islamophobes and homophobes might want to book their conventions in Music City....Naturally, organized labor will not be hosting their conventions in Nashville, TN.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/8/13 at 8:27

Good morning Ben, you have been saying that for years.

By: budlight on 4/8/13 at 8:39

By: BigPapa on 4/8/13 at 8:46
My criticism of Dean is that more and more he seems to look at making Nashville a great place to visit, but there's little regard to those of us that actually live here.

You are correct Big Papa. And whatever she runs for, she has my vote. I'm not in favor of Dean or anything he does, however, I pray that the CC pays off -- for all of our sakes. I do not wish to continue paying for his gambles.

By: BenDover on 4/8/13 at 8:42

Yep... but the condo's up for sale now and the rental house in Lavergne is next.

We are, likely, Williamson bound. Just need to find that right house with a pool and room for a big detached garage/shop.

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 8:52

Ben's got the capital gains blues?

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 8:56

Ben carries the torch for Bush & Cheney....but it is Barack Obama who rescued the economy...his predecessors had run the ship-o-state aground, on the rocks of financial disaster....one would think that Ben would show some gratitude to Barack Obama and the Democrats.....the saviors of the American Economy.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/8/13 at 8:57

Then I wish you the best and knowing that you will still be around is good news.

I like the Leapers Corner area myself.

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 9:04

"Leapers Corner"? There has to be an interesting story behind that name...experienced claim jumpers leap from Leapers Corner onto the hoods of shiny new automobiles, in order to extract financial settlements from the owners/drivers....claim jumpers dial 1-444-4444, to prepare the way for their claim, then they jump...they call it, "leaping for dollars".

By: BigPapa on 4/8/13 at 9:06

Yeah, the next mayor needs to focus on Nashvillians, not tourist.
Schools, neighborhoods, roads, parks, greenways, fiscal responsibility...

By: Captain Nemo on 4/8/13 at 9:09

Sorry Loner it is Leapers Fork. Leapers Corner is an entirely different place. my bad.

By: BenDover on 4/8/13 at 9:10

Barrack Rescued the economy?

What you been smokin' there loner? This 4 year Keynesian binge on my grand-childrens yet to be earned tax burden is far from a rescue, sir.

It's been almost wholly ineffective with the only dim glow of recovery despite Obama's efforts is almost entirely contained in Red States which policies that eschew everything the Obama administration stands for.

Obama took what should have been a one time $1 trillion dollar deficit and turned it into 4 years of deficits $1 trillion OVER the earlier trendline. This guy respent all the TARP repayments and then used that one-time exception spending as a new base-line for year over year spending.

He has replaced all of the savings we should have seen from draw-downs in Iraq and Afghanistan with a greatly expanded bureaucracy and a HUGE health entitlement that by the most conservative estimates now will cost over 4 times what he said it would.

I'm getting out of the condo now because, as has been noted often, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is insanity; and the libs are on a sugar high. Carb crash is likely to follow even here in Nashville when the reality of the situation finally suffocates the exuberance and the 20 somethings who know EVERYONE ELSE IS AN IDIOT! now, realize that Obama's stuck them with the tab.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/8/13 at 9:14

Here is what I am talking about Loner

About the City of Leipers Fork Tennessee:
Leipers Fork is a tiny woodsy community located about halfway between Franklin and Fairview, and is the home of Puckett's Grocery and Restaurant, the most unlikely-looking place one could imagine for great food and world-class entertainment.

But with a menu that features everything from cornbread stuffing to grilled Atlantic salmon, and performances from some of Nashville's most notable tunesmiths and even an occasional Doobie Brother, Puckett's is the place to see and be seen. And eat.

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 9:18

I see, Captain....Leipers Fork is known for its fine cuisine...how's the pork at Leipers Fork?

By: dargent7 on 4/8/13 at 9:19

BudL: If mayor Dean got the Convention Center pushed thru, what mre do you want from this guy?
He's expanding Green pathways..Bikes....
The CC alone will increase the revenues to Dtw. Nashville. by 50%.
The old CC held a max. OF 1,200 PEOPLE.
Nashville lost 50% to Gaylord Resorts, or other cities.
The new CC will bring in 6,000 people and compete with any city.

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 9:23

Got the hi-test this morning, Ben...you ingrate, you...the stock market is back up there....real estate values are regaining ground....unemployment numbers are not too shabby....and BHO has kept us out of war...so far anyway. Give the guy some credit, brother Ben.

By: bfra on 4/8/13 at 9:24

Ben back on his TARP, TARP, TARP rant again! You & yogi are always good for repeat, repeat, repeat!

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 9:31

Good morning, Dargent7.

Darge is up early; he's on the West Coast...he has registered his opinion...I hope that he is right.

If the convention business picks up, that's a sign that the economy is recovering...it means that corporations have the cash to allow for some relative extravagance...the days of belt-tightening and fiscal austerity may be over....the convention business is a good bellwether for the health of the general economy.

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 9:40

Ben, still harping on the TARP, still carping.... meanwhile, sculptors are meeting in Washington, to coordinate the plan to carve President Obama's likeness onto Mount Rushmore.

By: BenDover on 4/8/13 at 9:41

Unemployment sucks, my brother. Percentages only look improved because so many people dropped out of the work-force.

The only reason the stock market is holding up is that no other investments look good by comparison to blue-chips and people are betting their hard assets hold up better than the dollar. Bernanke's the only one buying new US debt anymore except for people scared of the Euro because of their economic collapse over there.

Smell the Java loner... things that can't go on forever, won't.

By: bfra on 4/8/13 at 9:44

Loner - Now Ben & yogi know everything about everything......NOT!

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 9:50

Ben advised me, "Smell the Java loner... things that can't go on forever, won't."

Amen, brother Ben.

BTW, reputable sources calculate the actual costs of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars to be 4-6 trillion....interest on the debt was factored in. You cannot hold BHO responsible for that.

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 9:53

I hear that, Bfra.....it's the NCP right-wing chant:


It's got a nice beat to it...I'll say that for it.

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 9:57

Both TARP and USURP end with, "RP"...that stands for the Republican Party....it's subliminal. Very clever.

By: bfra on 4/8/13 at 9:57

Loner - 1 in Music City & 1 lives near by, I am surprised they haven't tried to get their favorite chants recorded. LMAO at their comments & mindset.

By: bfra on 4/8/13 at 9:58

Loner - That could be the draw "RP"!

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 10:23

Future GOP acronyms that we may see:

SCARP: Security Cameras & Robot Police

HARP: Hijacking Assets of Retired Persons

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 10:25

Security Cameras And Robot Police...SCARP....it's what's hot today....invest now.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/8/13 at 10:27

Subliminal you say. Loner I think you have something.

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 10:31

If the NRA has its way, we may see a new law called, EARP: Easy Ammo Rifles Pistols....Wyatt not?

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 10:33

Easy Access to Rifles & Pistols...EARP....that's a better one.

By: Jughead on 4/8/13 at 10:34


By: BenDover on 4/8/13 at 10:35

It's just facts guys. If we'd maintained status quo the TARP receivable would have brought fy 2009 down to about $1 Trillion and then the subsequent years should have reverted back to deficits in the low hundred billions. Look at the CBO report. The recession ended in June of '09.

It was Obama's policies that prolonged the pain by spooking employers and investors with all of that spending and Obamacare.

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 10:36

Yeah, Captain, with some you go liminal, with others, you go subliminal....some just do away with the lime altogether.

By: BenDover on 4/8/13 at 10:36

Instead Obama proceeded to spend $1 trillion a year over the deficit trend-line.

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 10:39

Ben, you claimed that Obama spooked the financial community, back in 2008, as a candidate for POTUS and that's what caused the stampede for the exits in September, 2008...the specter of a black man in the White House caused a panic on Wall Street.

He's still spooking investors and employers, after four years of recovery? I'd say the jig is up on that.

By: Loner on 4/8/13 at 10:43

Uh...Ben....The House is controlled by a Republican majority...all spending bills originate in the House, that's the House of Representatives, not the White House. Put the blame where the blame lies, my old friend....it's the beholden House and Senate...paying back their campaign donors....that's where the rubber hits the road.