Up for Debate: At Dean's crossroads

Monday, December 26, 2011 at 1:15am

Looking at the crossroads of Dean's mayorship, what are his challenges, goals, failures?

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86 Comments on this post:

By: yogiman on 12/26/11 at 10:45

I can't see Huckabee as VP. He was too pro illegal alien supporting when governor of Arkansas.

By: Loner on 12/26/11 at 10:46

I think that Ron Paul will win in Iowa, or be a close second. That could upset the GOP-TP cart. I'm pulling for Paul....Go Ron, Go!

I could pull the lever for Paul in the general election....just to show my displeasure with Obama's reneging on key issues.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/26/11 at 10:52

Loner I did read the yogi post. It is a nice day and I would not want to spoil it.

By: yogiman on 12/26/11 at 10:52

Loner, what is the cause of Herman Cain being out of the picture? The accusations about his "messing around" with those women?

Haven't you wondered why Cain was picked out from the other candidates? And why accept his guilt when no proof was offered? Are we sticking with our new judicial system; like guilty until you prove yourself innocent?

By: BenDover on 12/26/11 at 10:52

Step it up Loner. Monday from 3-4? ... that's only a 'wee protest'. Set up camp there so you can become a beacon to the area homeless like our War Memorial Plaza here in Nashville has become. Instead of a wee protest, by the smell, Nashville now has Wee-Wee protest... and it's growing.

My wife and I went through about 3 weeks ago and, what I'll call the idealist protesters, were cowering in their corner closest to the Capital in their Che Guevara T-Shirts with signs and such leaning against their tents. And all the homeless squatters who have co-opted the cause spread themselves across the rest of our beautiful War Memorial Plaza re-creating the old river-side tent city in a great area grand architecture of fountains, paving stones, benches, steps; and the periodic ill-informed tourist to shake-down to bolster the Mogen David budget.

Step it up, Lone One... the powers that be in your fine city deserve at least as good a protest as the Nashville crew can foster.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/26/11 at 10:52

Well that would upset the apple cart alright. I know one TEA bag that hates Ron Paul.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/26/11 at 10:54

Happy Holladay Ben!!

By: BenDover on 12/26/11 at 10:59

Yes... to you to Capt. Nemo! I take it travels were safe. I hope you have had a wonderful time.

By: yogiman on 12/26/11 at 11:03


Haven't you wondered how those "occupy" groups began their missions worldwide starting at about the sate time? Isn't that odd? Where did they all come up with the "same" thought?

By: Captain Nemo on 12/26/11 at 11:10

Thanks Ben I am and I hope the same for you. Got another party to go today.

By: yogiman on 12/26/11 at 11:17

It has been mentioned "Barack Obama" is going to raise over a million dollars for the next campaign. My question: Can our common sense Americans be bought out by advertisement? Can't they look into the issue and make their own decision? OK, looking at some of the "fools" shown on the "news" sections of TV I understand the number of idiots we have.

I'll argue there should be limits to where a campaigner could get their campaign money and it shouldn't be corporations giving their stock holders money away when the stockholders have no opportunity to tell them who to give it to.

My argument? If I haven't "said" it before: The president should only be allowed to receive a limited amount from an American citizen. No one else.

The Senate seekers should be restricted to receiving their money from American citizens of the State they are seeking to represent. And it would be better if the 17th Amendment would be repealed and put the Senate back in the states hands.

The House seekers should be restricted to receiving money from American citizens in the District of the State they are campaigning for.

We don't need foreigners electing our legislature.

By: BenDover on 12/26/11 at 11:20

Useful idiots, yogi.

By: Loner on 12/26/11 at 11:42

Useful idiots & agents provocateur...with a smattering of homeless people...sounds like I need to come down there, where Spring comes early, Ben.

Yes, our little protest is wee and modest...but if remain steady, we can have an effect....like alternating current instead of direct current, Ben...or maybe a blinking light compared to a steady beam...blinking saves energy and draws more attention.

We made the Medina Journal Register and Albion Advertiser front pages...that's quite the amplifier around here. I expect that more folks will honk their horns and give us the thumbs up....but, we could also be mooned, by disgruntled old farts...it's that kind of a town.

I gotta sign off and go into Albion...I'll be on my way....it's Protest Monday!

Loner out.

By: BenDover on 12/26/11 at 12:01

You should set up tables and have everyone bring a covered dish, Loner.

Joking aside, I do think your form of protest is much better received... more in the spirit of the Tea Party rather than the Pee Party protests.

By: sidneyames on 12/26/11 at 12:12

How about this sign Loner:

CORPORATIONS employ millions of people
CORPORATIONS generate millions of dollars.

Work for a CORPORATION and be one of the 1%


Shareholders in corporations are people, too.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/26/11 at 12:16

Just got back from a little walk, it is so nice out here today. I hope that you get some of this sun shine tomorrow.

By: dargent7 on 12/26/11 at 1:06

"Feedback from "yogi".. Shark chum has more redeaming characteristics.
No one can live with "half a brain". One kidney, ok. No spleen, ok. No gallbladder, ok, hysterectomy, no uterous, ok, no prostate, ok., no testicles, ok, half a liver, ok. 3/4 of a heart, ok. One eye, ok, no hearing, ok.
Half a brain? No way.
He's playing us for fools he is.

By: yogiman on 12/26/11 at 1:33

No dargent7, I'm playing you for the fools you are. I"m sure I'm not like you on political thoughts.
Uh oh, sorry, we made an agreement...., didn't we?

By: dargent7 on 12/26/11 at 1:43

Obama's in office for just under 10 months (election time). If he loses 2012, he'll kick back. and cruise until Jan. 20, 2013.
Agreement, spheement.
For 10 more months, stop yammering about your tin foil antenna pick-ups from Jupiter's outer moons about Obama's birthplace. No one on this board gives a sh*t.
Join the Shriners, Masonic Temple, Lion's Club, Boy Scouts.
Hell, you could make a good showing in the Girl Scouts.

By: yogiman on 12/26/11 at 1:49

Sorry Santa didn't bring you what you wanted, dargent7. Did you drink too much booze because you was so disappointed? You're "sounding" like you're drunk.

Or do you want to go into a one on one "fight" until next Monday?

By: dargent7 on 12/26/11 at 2:21

I think I was quite clear that no one on this board follows your tin foil hat mumbo-jumbo.
It's a waste of time and space.
And your, "I had one half my brain removed", though reasonable, even warranted, is physically impossible.
Saying you have only one kidney and no spleen, appendix, and toncillis, makes more scientific sense.
The clock's ticking...you've got 10 months to disparage Obama.

By: yogiman on 12/26/11 at 2:46

No, dargent7, if we had a congress doing what they're being paid for, Obama could be disparaged today. Facts are facts. Whatever your education is, it sure isn't civics.

Let me offer you this point; correct me where I'm wrong. By law, Indonesia would not accept dual citizenship when Barack Obama's stepfather adopted him so he could go to school in Indonesia because he could not go if he wasn't a citizen of Indonesia. Consequently, when adopted, he could not keep his American citizenship.

Also by law, when you lose your American citizenship to become a citizen of another nation and later repatriate, you cannot regain your natural born citizen status. You can only become a naturalized citizen. Simply being born as a natural born citizen does not give you a life long right. Only until you change your status.

By: bfra on 12/26/11 at 2:50

d7 - You might as well comment to a rock out in your yard!

By: yogiman on 12/26/11 at 2:55

You're right, bfra. You don't seem to have any intelligence in your skull, either.

By: bfra on 12/26/11 at 3:03

yogi - Thank you! Coming from someone with NO intelligence, that is a compliment.

By: yogiman on 12/26/11 at 3:18

Damn, did you look in the mirror, bfra?

Let me offer this question: Y'all have only thrown the argument Barack Obama was 'elected' for the office. Did I miss some other evidence of proof? So, how can you be elected to an office if you aren't legally qualified by law for that office?

By law, you can't, even with a majority of the vote from idiots.

The only "qualification" y'all have offered is "he was born in Hawaii". Was he? Where did you get that information? I couldn't find it anywhere and I sure would like to know. Just take someone's word as proof of eligibility for the Oval Office? No thanks. I want factual proof.

By: bfra on 12/26/11 at 3:23

OOPS! In my 3:03pm comment, that "someone", should have read "thing". I don't want to insult other human beings.

By: yogiman on 12/26/11 at 3:33

Did you mean; "Coming from "thing" with no intelligence", bfra? Please, what is that IQ you are pretending to have?

By: yogiman on 12/26/11 at 3:37


To pass a little intelligence on to you, go to google and type in "documents show marriage of Obama's parents a sham". Hopefully, if you have enough intelligence to understand what you are reading, you might learn something from the documents shown.

By: JayBee56 on 12/26/11 at 4:08

For someone who got 79.13% of the mayoral vote (not the 85% given elsewhere in the NCP), Dean does not have an overwhelming mandate for anything in particular other than to leave the fairgrounds alone. I'd like to see a mayor who does what's best for the entire county, not for special interests or certain areas. When is he going to focus on bread and butter issues like streets, sidewalks and infrastructure? Thus far, big money has had his ear, not the ordinary constituent. The buck stops with the mayor's office yet his administration has continued to chase after glamorous projects like convention centers, mass transit, stadiums and healthy lifestyle. All good, but not all essential. The needs of the many should outweigh the "needs" of the few.

By: yogiman on 12/26/11 at 4:46

Well, Loner,

It's 4:40. Its time for everyone to consider the official work day over and your co-posters gone home.

It's great! all but three accepted your "peace and quite" request.

It'll hold up tomorrow because I'll be gone for the day. They can get a bunch of comments in I won't be able to answer.

By: yogiman on 12/26/11 at 4:51

Oh, by the way, dargent7, you don't need an eye for vision if you know how to listen. And you only need the hearing in one ear if you know how to listen.

By: yogiman on 12/27/11 at 7:09

One sunny day in January, 2013, an old man approached the White House from across Pennsylvania Avenue where he'd been sitting on a park bench. He spoke to the U. S. Marine standing guard and said, "I would like to go in and meet with President Obama".

The Marine looked at the man and said, "Mr. Obama is no longer President and no longer resides here."

The old man said, "Okay", and walked away. The following day, the same old man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, "I would like to go in and meet President Obama".

The Marine again told the old man, Sir, as I said yesterday, Mr. Obama is no longer President and no longer resides here".

The man thanked him and again, just walked away.

The third day the same man approached the White House and spoke to the very same U. S. Marine, saying "I would like to go in and meet President Obama".

The Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked at the man sand said, "Sir this is the third day in a row you have been here asking to speak to Mr. Obama. I've told you already that Mr. Obama is no longer the President and no longer reside here. Don't you understand?"

The man look at the Marine and said, "Oh, I understand. I just love hearing it."

The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said, "See you tomorrow, Sir".

I'm Looking forward to January 2013, aren't you?

By: sidneyames on 12/27/11 at 3:12

yogiman on 12/26/11 at 10:52
Loner, what is the cause of Herman Cain being out of the picture? The accusations about his "messing around" with those women?

Haven't you wondered why Cain was picked out from the other candidates? And why accept his guilt when no proof was offered? Are we sticking with our new judicial system; like guilty until you prove yourself innocent?

Yogi, I saw no response to your question. Cain was "picked" because he could have won. I have a hard time with the way the woman who had a "hum-drum" life got so much publicity for her story. I hope the truth comes out. My question is: If a man (or woman) knew they had that type of "history" with someone, why would they run the risk? It all does not add up to me.

Some say Cain was arrogant to think he could cover up "Miss Hum-Drum". When I met him in Nashville, I did perceive him to be an arrogant man. Well, we will find out in the long run -- sooner or later.

By the way,who did Obama date BEFORE he met Michelle? That is a mystery that I want solved. Got any ideas? LOL

By: yogiman on 12/27/11 at 5:16


The fact no one knows anything about Obama is strange to begin with, but it isn't strange Obama doesn't want the people to know anything about himself. That can only be conceived because he knows he isn't constitutionally eligible for that office. He in fact usurped the Oval Office. He knows it and I believe Congress knows it. Too many of them have to know the meaning of the Constitution to think they would believe he was legally eligible for it.

I have to put the race factor in the picture for things to be handled like it has been and still is. I believe the first black president point was a reason why Congress had a fear of a race riot if the usurpation act was opened to the public. That, plus I believe many in congress are in the communist party with Barry Soetoro.

As I have said before; time will tell. I hope I live through next year. I will give one hell of a laugh at a bunch of idiots.

By: spooky24 on 12/28/11 at 10:13

Since you ask I will tell you that Governor Haslam is in trouble with Tennessee republicans, tea party activist and moderate Democrats. His weakness in dealing with the occupy problem is bad enough especially since voters watched much more liberal Governors-like in NY-squash the public camping. His much anticipated 'new policy' to be released after the first of the year should be interesting. Unless he can appease his own base on this issue now-not later-he will get no second term or cooperation from republicans at all.