Up for Debate: Does Romney sink or swim?

Friday, September 21, 2012 at 1:08am

After facing criticism over the "47 percent" remarks and facing trouble in latest polls, is Romney's campaign battered beyond repair just about six weeks out from the election? Can Romney make up ground in the debates? What must he do, reel in his comments and play it safe, or go on the offensive? Also, for fun, care to make final outcome predictions in vote percentage?

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By: yogiman on 9/20/12 at 11:59

Mitt Romney was simply placing the facts on the line but too many people don't want to know the facts.

Much has been said about his 47% remark but no mention has been made about Mother Jones leaving 2 minutes out of that speech. What part of that speech did they drop out before they opened the talk back up?

By: Rasputin72 on 9/21/12 at 12:13

The very fact that that 90% of the 47% were upset exposed the reason Romney will be beaten

It just goes to show the productive class and the wealthy how fortunate they are.

Romney was the perfect candidate for the well executed class warfare campaign by Obama.

In the meantime the fact that the Romney and the media have exposed this class of have nots allows the prpductive class to be on guard for what leechings are in the future.

When you have 63% of Davidson county school children on free lunch and breakfast programs one has to assume that procreation by "these people"is motivated by all of theentitlement programs provided by the productive class.

By: Ask01 on 9/21/12 at 2:55

I believe Willard is experiencing an uncontrolled dive and will soon reach crush depth, at which point his ill fated campaign will implode.

By: yogiman on 9/21/12 at 3:48

You should read the NewsMax polls instead of the media's polls, guys. They're calling it different.

Anyone thinking of Obama should watch a show he's blocking on Fox News Sunday. Check out www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28/

Can't blame him for not wanting people to see it.

By: yogiman on 9/21/12 at 3:52

Ask01,

I'll say again, anyone who will vote for someone when they don't even know his legitimate name, who refuses to show his legal name, will deserve what they get.

By: dargent7 on 9/21/12 at 4:23

Romney has been consistent in his contempt for the middle-class and the poor.
He stated 6 months ago he, "enjoys firing people".
He said, "I'm not worried about the poor, there's a safety net for them". That he'll shrink and take away.
His wife, "drove two Cadillacs".
He will cancel Planned Parenthood, which caters to the poor and minorities.
He'll double down on the military budget and bomb Iran.
He'll cut the Foodstamp budget and cut welfare benefits.
You get these self absorbed, self centered, self indulgent Republicans in the White House and all hell will break out.
The Occupy Wall Street group will explode and the streets will run with blood.
Romney has to take the starch out of his Magic Underware.
But, he'll lose in Nov. but it was a close call.

By: Ummm... on 9/21/12 at 5:00

"Rasputin," the bigoted, morally bankrupt monk says that 90% of the 47% are "upset" about Romney's condescending stupidity being on display. Quite the contrary, Poupon boy, most people are absolutely thrilled that the truth about the oligarchy-protecting Teapublican candidate has been exposed. Time for you to go back to the mission for your free breakfast...

By: gdiafante on 9/21/12 at 5:01

The debates will determine the election. Statistically, it's still too close to call. Everything else is just filler.

By: gdiafante on 9/21/12 at 5:01

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By: dargent7 on 9/21/12 at 5:36

Disagree.
The Romney "sound bite" has legs.
He's talking like a chess competitor ready for a match against the Russian, not as a qualified President of the United States.
People can see Obama is a man with a heart. Compassion. The right mind set.."All Americans". Not some stat, "47%". Too COLD.
Romney is all dollars and cents.

By: gdiafante on 9/21/12 at 5:42

There are many people who agree with Romney and think that half the nation is a bunch of entitlement whores. I'd bet about 90% of Tennessee thinks that way. It doesn't really matter what the polls are right now...this country is divided, almost equally, so every election will be contested.

Now, the probability that Romney says something stupid at the debates is also very high. But substance really doesn't matter. Remember back to the Gore/Bush first debate...Gore seemed to be mic'd wrong, so everytime he exhaled, it seemed to the audience as though he was sighing and being obnoxious. Even though it was obvious that Gore was much smarter, Bush came out as more appealing.

Anything can happen...the moment you become complacent, you lose.

By: Loner on 9/21/12 at 6:07

Good morning, Nashville....TGIF.

Q: Is Romney's campaign battered beyond repair just about six weeks out from the election?
A: In my opinion, yes, Romney's campaign is moribund.

Q. Can Romney make up ground in the debates?
A: Not likely; Obama is a superb debater; Bishop Romney much less so.

Q: What must he do, reel in his comments and play it safe, or go on the offensive?
A: Either way, Romney is toast. IMO. His campaign seems to be flailing.....and failing.

Q: Care to make final outcome predictions in vote percentage?
A: The popular vote is absolutely meaningless...still, I'd say that Willard & Wieners will win about 47% of the popular vote...a fitting figure. The EC vote count will not be as close as some predict....the President will take most of the swing states, IMO.

Caveat: If Israel strikes Iran before the elections, anything can happen...the POTUS may appear to be "dithering" in such a case....when it comes to coming to the rescue of Israel, no "dithering" will be tolerated by the Dems or the Republicans. If gas prices skyrocket before Nov. 6....then Romney might have a slim chance to win this thing.

We should bookmark this board and compare it with the actual results.

By: Loner on 9/21/12 at 6:18

Here is the "canary in the mine shaft" warning.....Gov. Pawlenty jumped ship yesterday...he was Mitt's election campaign co-chairman....he left to take a job as a highly paid Wall Street lobbyist...the revolving door still works...politician to lobbyist, back to politician....back to lobbyist...... and so on. The canary stopped singing.....get out of the mine!!

Gov. Pawlenty was going to work for Wall Street, as an insider within the Romney Administration...but the Gov saw that Mitt is toast, so Pawlenty is saving his own hide and going to work directly for his Wall Street paymasters...the one-percenters.

Wall Street's candidate, Bishop Romney, is now a pariah....soon, any Republican running for office will distance themselves from the condemned one.

By: parnell3rd on 9/21/12 at 6:19

If we get 4 more years of Obama we're done. When the money runs out that politicians have been prominsing since the 60's, the next civil war will make the first one look like the Hatfields and McCoys.
Why? Because when the freeloaders stop getting their money they will be mad, loot, riot, etc. We see it in Europe now.
Then the people who have actually paid into Social Security stop getting their checks, oh, too bad, we have to give your money to the freeloaders.
Until Congress and Senate vote in term limits for themselves plus real spending reforms we will continue into bankruptcy.
Keep voting for socialism/redistribution and America will be a chapter in the History books in less than 100 years.
Keep voting corrupt politicians into office, both parties, you'll send your fututre families into gloom and doom.

By: dargent7 on 9/21/12 at 6:20

Gore was coming off a Clinton administration that was embroiled in sex, sex, and more sex. Too much momentum of negative baggage.
The Nation wanted a fresh face and a fresh approach. Namely Bush.
Romney will hammer home his private sector business experience and his ability to create JOBS.
Obama will smile alot and say he needs more time. The thing about Obama is that I find myself actually listening to him, where ever he speaks. He's that good. He's as charismatic and eloquent as it gets, black or white.
Romney looks rich, is sterile, wooden, and heartless.
He won't appeal to the poor who don't vote anyway.
Going to be a nail-biter on Nov. 6th, for sure.

By: Loner on 9/21/12 at 6:29

Looks like all the pomp & circumstance surrounding the GOP primary was much ado about nothing....this is what that process produced.....what a monumental waste of time and energy....if the nation's rejection of Romney has any "coat-tails" effect, the Dems could retain the Senate and possibly re-take the House....if that were to happen, a great howling would erupt across the fruited plain.

I remember Rush Limbaugh clearly telling Mitt et al. that the 47% remark was a golden opportunity for the GOP to state their claim...that this country is a bunch of lazy moochers, looking for a hand-out.....Mitt took Limbaugh's advice....he's done.

Limbaugh might have deliberately given the bad advice...it's much easier for him, when a Democrat is in the White House...carping and sniping are Rush's specialty...not apologetics and cheer-leading. Rush is a Democratic agent provocateur?

By: gdiafante on 9/21/12 at 6:33

Parnell, tax in and of itself is income redistribution. Congress authorized the first income redistribution on recommendation from Alexander Hamilton in the 1790's. FYI: That scheme perpetuated the union. Consider yourself informed.

But, I agree that Congress needs to get it to together and do something. This last one may be the worst in American history. Some idiots see that as a badge of honor.

By: gdiafante on 9/21/12 at 6:35

The Nation wanted a fresh face and a fresh approach. Namely Bush.

You contradict yourself. You can't keep whining about the 2000 election as being stolen if you think Bush was the popular choice. I'd argue that what hurt Gore more was Clinton not active in the campaign.

Regardless of the scandal, people love Clinton. Still do. See DNC speech response.

By: dargent7 on 9/21/12 at 6:38

This election is a clear line of philosophical demarcation: Republican v. Democrat.
Republican...: start unwinnable wars, lying about the reasons, boost the military to stratospheric levels, cut welfare, all support systems. Shower disdain on minorities.
Democrat...: "Save the people". Yeah, sure, some abuse, lie, cheat and steal the system, but so do the multi-millionaires on Wall Street and rich people like Romney who hides his money overseas. Like that's a sign of patriotism.
Face it, America is in shit-hole, either way.

By: Loner on 9/21/12 at 6:40

One wonders why Pawlenty could not wait another 45 days before dumping Mitt....does he need the money that badly? Surely, Pawlenty realizes that it looks like he has abandoned a loser.....the GOP is going Darwinian? Eat or be eaten? Every man for himself?

The wheelsare wobbling violently and they are about to come off the Romney campaign bus.....panicked passengers are jumping out the windows and the escape hatches, trying to save themselves before the crash occurs....jumping out at speed can cause road rash.....Pawlenty was smart, he wore his leathers....he'll be fine.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/21/12 at 6:44

Two trolls spin a fairytale in the hopes of strengthening their Prince Charming Overlord.

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By: dargent7 on 9/21/12 at 6:47

gD: Yes, people LOVE Clinton, NOW, the "Come Back Kid". But, it's been 12 years of healing.
He was excoriated in 1998-1999 and impeached as President.
Gore, just along for the ride, got caught up in it.
I do think Bush and his cronies stole the election in 2000, but Gore had too big a mountain to climb. At the time, too much Clinton stigma. No one can carry an ex-President who's humilated into his campaign and win an election.
Now, if Romney wins this one, America's karma is so bad we'll never survive.
P-3 says if Obama wins, we're sunk, and I say if Romney wins, we're F***.
So, pick your poison.
Oh, and by the way, my Lions are going to kick your Titans asses this Sunday.
So, there.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/21/12 at 6:52

Our Dixie Doodle p3 calls for war, like a good slave owner would. The problem with this twig shape poster is it is just a farmhand at best and never the owner of anything, including its soul.

By: Loner on 9/21/12 at 6:52

Darge is right...the GOP wants the tax revenues to go to the war lobby. The Dems want the money to go to social welfare programs.

R = Guns. D = Butter.

If every voter worked for the Defense industry, the state of Israel or the Energy industry, (DIE), then we would all be well-paid Republican hawks. Unless one is employed by one of the DIE trio, then voting Republican is voting against one's own best interests.

By: Kosh III on 9/21/12 at 6:52

The 47% includes
Boeing which has paid NO income taxes since 2001.
Verizon, Wells Fargo, Pepco, GE and BofA have all had several years in which none were paid. Even while we were shoveling massive amounts of welfare at the banks and others.
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Romney can win if the Electoral College vote is a certain way regardless of the popular vote.
Or if Obama makes a major stumble.
Or if Romney does better in the debates.

If Romney wins, we can expect to accelerate towards the corporate fascism that has been creeping up on us for 30 years.

By: govskeptic on 9/21/12 at 7:00

While Rome burns throughout the Middle East our President leaves the
details of action to the WH Kitchen staff to handle (all Harvard grads, so no
problem with that) . After all, candidate Obama promised a vote for him
would solve the Muslim problems back in 2008.

No doubt the Romney campaign is currently in struggle mode (possibly
because of former McCain and Boston advisers) a more offense campaign
may still make a difference over the next 40+ days. If the debates can
turn to serious issues versus the Jerry Springer-David Letterman type
interviews Romney has the ability to make up a few points.

Without the Reality show audiences, NBC, and the NCP editorial
writers (paid and unpaid) and posters, Mr. Romney has an uphill
climb, but not an impossible one contrary to much publicity otherwise.

By: Loner on 9/21/12 at 7:01

Kosh is right, IMO....corporate fascism will increase its rate of creep, now that the SCOTUS created the Super PACs. Give the parties a few years to learn how to use these new CU tools......then watch the creep turn into a trot. Money in politics will destroy us in the long run.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/21/12 at 7:02

It will be very hard for Captain Crunch (Mitt Romney) to sail this brick of a campaign through the trouble waters. Boating in a Golden Bath Tube, is not has dangerous has being at sea.

By: Loner on 9/21/12 at 7:03

Gov wrote: "...a more offense campaign may still make a difference over the next 40+ days."

Gov, Mitt could not get much more offensive than he already is.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/21/12 at 7:07

gov-

The kitchen staff is better than the Romney's dog.

By: gdiafante on 9/21/12 at 7:11

I'd like to know exactly what we can do right now in the Middle East? Bomb them? Ride it out? Put troops on the ground...issue BS statements?

Seriously, every person who is whining about our ME policy, what exactly do you think we can do?

By: Loner on 9/21/12 at 7:13

Actually, Mitt could get a lot more offensive.....as desperation and despair set in, Willard may show his mean side...the side he keeps hidden from the cameras....behind those pearly whites, behind the tailored suits...the well-coiffed hair is a person that we may not really know.....who is that guy? We may soon find out.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/21/12 at 7:14

Hey, did anyone else hear about how Romney darkened his face for his Telumundo interview?

By: Captain Nemo on 9/21/12 at 7:14

The frantic cries from the fringe right are very hearting to me, but also extremely sad to hear.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/21/12 at 7:16

Mitt Romney appeared to be a touch more tanned during an TV interview for Spanish-language channel Univision on Wednesday, prompting suggestions the Republican leader had piled on the make up to make himself more appealing to Latino voters.

The make-up ‘mishap’ is particularly unfortunate as it comes in the wake of a leaked video of Romney saying he would have a better chance of being President if he had been "born of Mexican parents."

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/09/20/mitt-romney-mexico-fake-tan-univision-_n_1900183.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/21/12 at 7:17

I guess he is a Snooki fan after all - lol!

By: Captain Nemo on 9/21/12 at 7:18

I saw that on TV yesterday, Blanket, but I thought it was the TV.

By: Loner on 9/21/12 at 7:18

It's easy...yet extremely difficult, Gd.....the 2-state solution is not going to ever work...give it a decent burial. The only alternative is consensual annexation of the OT along with full Israeli citizenship for all who now reside there...the one-state solution.
It is the only fair and democratic way forward....share the land....share the peace....share the prosperity.

Once the Palestine issue is solved, the fires of Islamic passion will subside, IMO.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/21/12 at 7:20

Nemo, you can clearly see the makeup line along his chin. Talk about desperate - lol! I would love to see what he would do for a BET interview.

By: yogiman on 9/21/12 at 7:21

Amazing Ummm, Romney has been "exposed" in one speech but Barry hasn't been exposed in four years. He must be saying what you want to hear every time he opens his mouth because if you'd listen you could have determined what he is the first time he opened his mouth.

By: Loner on 9/21/12 at 7:21

Make-up Malfunction?

By: Loner on 9/21/12 at 7:22

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By: Captain Nemo on 9/21/12 at 7:26

Romney's Tan At Univision Forum Was Pretty Overboard (PHOTO)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/20/mitt-romney-orange-bronzer-univision-face_n_1900387.html?utm_hp_ref=style

By: slacker on 9/21/12 at 7:26

Was ''Mittens'' sounding suspiciously like Ricardo Montalban?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/21/12 at 7:27

I guesso, Loner. LOL

By: Loner on 9/21/12 at 7:27

When in Chinatown, Willard likes to wear a Fu Manchu paste-on mustache....when visiting the hippies, he wears a long-haired wig and a tie-dyed T-shirt.....when on a dairy farm it's Tingley boots and a Carhartt jacket (pre-faded and deliberately shit-stained).....when he's with his base, it's a tux.....in bed, it's the magic underwear.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/21/12 at 7:27

I'm surprised he wasn't wearing a sombrero and passing out tacos.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/21/12 at 7:27

I can hear it now, that the Media is blowing this all out of proportion…right Ben.

By: Ummm... on 9/21/12 at 7:30

It's no surprise that Romney would falsely darken his skin tone to do an interview with a spanish language tv network- his belief that something as superficial as skin tone would make him more acceptable to those viewers is consistent with his entire political philosophy. Of course, that doesn't make it any less ludicrous and pitiful.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/21/12 at 7:33

It must be the Mexican in him coming out.

This reminds me of a white politico in Nashville a few years ago trying to win over the black vote with free water melon.