Up for Debate: Fiscal proposals

Wednesday, December 5, 2012 at 12:33am

What do you make of the latest proposals and back-and-forth particularly between the U.S. House GOP and President Barack Obama over a plan to avoid the "fiscal cliff"?

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By: Captain Nemo on 12/5/12 at 1:58

It will be the same as before. The Republicans will not give up their tax cuts.

Rasputin is still a puss cat.

yogi will repeat himself over and over.

p3 will flutter about. Drink coffee and go to work.

By: yogiman on 12/5/12 at 5:39

A good way to start the day is to read about Hawaiian Governor Abercrombe's search.


Governor Ambercrombie was an old friend of Obama's grandparents. When he won the governor's race he said the day he went in office he would produce Obama's birth certificate. I guess he's still looking because he hasn't produced it. Was he actually dumbfounded as he appeared when he couldn't show it?

Could it possibly be the governor could not legally order the hospital to provide their records?

By: Ask01 on 12/5/12 at 5:41

Captain Nemo is correct.

On all points.

The one I address specifically is the comment about Republicans defending tax breaks for the wealthy.

They, the Republican Party, are so tangled in the bedsheets with rich corporate America, they find themselves in a quandry, with no exit plan.

If they stick to the hardline, refusing to allow tax increases on those who can afford to pay more, forcing huge tax increases on those who can barely afford their current rates, they will brand themselves as the architects of said increase for generations to come.

If they do give up the rich, their benefactors will strike back, pehaps forcing them to live on their meager government paychecks and seek backing from the very people they drove over the cliff.

In addition, Rasputin72 is mere comic relief, being as poor, or poorer than any of us, actually trying to fuel the flames of Class Warfare with his snobbish rhetoric.

Our Jellystone escapee will eventually bring this all around to his only subject. Truth is, I actually went to a few sites which investigate internet and other hoaxes, including snopes.com, which seems the best known and respected, and guess what? They all refute the birther nonsense, dispelling all the misinformation being spread by sites with agendas.

Actually, coffee and work sounds like a great plan.

I owe, I owe, so off to work I go.

Ciao, y'all.

By: Rasputin72 on 12/5/12 at 5:58

51.6% of American voters want the Obama administration to manufacture a standard of living that they cannot manufacture on their own.

49.4% of American voters know that this is impossible

There will be a solution that will not benefit the 49.4% in either the short term or the long term.

There will be a solution that satisfies the 51.6% in the short term and will be cancelled out in the long term.

As the country stumbles towards the final abyss I have a comment for the 51.6%

Let the Big Dog eat!!!

By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 6:07

Nemo & Ask01 have given very accurate descriptions of 2 of the trolls that continue to smear falsehoods all over the board everyday.

By: Loner on 12/5/12 at 6:24

Good morning, Nashville.

What do you make of the latest proposals and back-and-forth particularly between the U.S. House GOP and President Barack Obama over a plan to avoid the "fiscal cliff"?

What we are witnessing here is a clash of special interests. Every federal politician accepts money from campaign donors and the cash comes with strings attached. The public's interest is not represented; hence the inability to resolve the problem.

I do not see a fair compromise coming out of these "talks"....the politicians will probably go home for the holidays with the "cliff" dead ahead....the House is still controlled by the GOP and they are not going to bite the wealthy hands that feed them.

As an immediate threat to the American way of life, the so-called "fiscal cliff" is over-rated. Americans have been riding the Bush-era, low-tax, hi-spending, merry-go-round for 12 straight years and our massive deficits are grim proof that you can't get something for nothing, not even if you can print up the money yourself.

The USA needs a period of relative austerity, or our credit rating will take another hit. Turn out the lights on the Bush tax holidays and generous give-aways...that 12-year-long party is over.

By: Loner on 12/5/12 at 6:30

If the Rasp had the wealth that he claims, he would take me up on my "earnest money" offer...to prove his claims and to salvage what remains of his credibility and honor. One might think that a tycoon would value his reputation and the value of his word....on the other hand, a delusional tycoon-wannabe, would not be interested in things like that.

I conclude that the Rasp is an unbalanced phony baloney........he's no "big dog" at all....he's a sick puppy.....puking and shitting all over our carpet....not that cute.

By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 6:41

Loner kicks in with another accurate description of the grey poupon slurping troll.

By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 6:42

Loner kicks in with another accurate description of the grey poupon slurping troll.

By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 6:44

Sorry about the double post, the mochene acted as odd as the trolls for a sec.

By: Loner on 12/5/12 at 6:46

I call 'em as I see 'em, Bfra....Rasp is flush now, we just had the first of the month and his government check came in on time....he'll be pan-handling for mustard money by the 25th of the month. Rasp thinks of his government check as a dividend on an investment....he's in a world of his own...a dog eat dog fantasy world.....bless his heart.

By: yogiman on 12/5/12 at 6:51

You're right, bfra, dogs eat sh!t; but not their own. They aren't humane like you.

By: Loner on 12/5/12 at 6:55

Morning, noon and night, Yogi has a single obsession: Barack Hussein Obama. One wonders if Yogi dreams about lynch mobs, tar & featherings and Lee Harvey Oswald. There's no room in Yogi's brain for anything but his one hateful obsession....that's not much of a life...bless his heart.....he'll die a bitter, angry, unfulfilled man...what a waste.

By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 6:58

yogi doesn't even know the nature of dogs & by his own admission, he lives with a house full of them.

By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 6:59

Maybe yogi is gay & that is his obsession with Obama. Anyway you look at it, it isn't normal.

By: yogiman on 12/5/12 at 7:00

It's funny, Loner. You think you know when you can have no idea what you're thinking. What is your IQ? 13, perhaps? You 'sound' like it.

Have you thought the most jobs in the USA are provided by people who would rather pay salaries than taxes? If you have your choice, would you rather pay dumba$$ to work or Barry to spend you money on Michelle's vacations? And you might add his cow pasture pool games in there, too.

By: Rasputin72 on 12/5/12 at 7:01

There is nothing so satisfying as sitting in a Palm Beach sidewalk cafe enjoying two poached eggs on an English muffin and a side of bacon and some freshly squeezed orange juice knowing that you have pissed off a group of ner do wells.

Let the poor bastards wallow in their own personal failures.

I expect to have another go at you dolts before cocktails this evening.

I leave you with the two tidbits of truth.

You can enjoy more of this world with good health and money than any other morsels of the creator.

As for those of you with Obama phones,every little bit helps I always say.

By: Loner on 12/5/12 at 7:02

Interesting speculation, Bfra...a gay love-hate obsession does solve some of the riddle....Yogi just wants to diddle?

By: yogiman on 12/5/12 at 7:06

By the way, Loner, take that "est" off of your "earnest money" and what have you done to earn Rasputin72's money? Sit on your a$$ and claim what you don't know about him?

Shame on you. You, and your fellow posters claim I don't know what I'm arguing but you're all so brilliant you know every word you're spitting out of your mouth. Gimme a break, Loner.

By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 7:07

Raspy the only one pissed is you! The rational posters on the site are laughing.

By: Loner on 12/5/12 at 7:07

The Mission doors must have opened for breakfast in Nashville....the Rasp is the big dog at the head of the hungry line....enjoy your powdered eggs and Spam, Rasp...liquor stores will be open soon....you can make it 'til then....poor bastard....crazier than a shit-house rat.

By: yogiman on 12/5/12 at 7:12


As an old Army man, did you ever hear of Lt. Gen. W. G. Boykin? Listen to him. Is he lying?


By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 7:15

yogi - did you ever hear what Big Bird said: F*** you, for being such a fool.

By: Loner on 12/5/12 at 7:16

Nashville's New Cocktail Sensation: The Rasputin.

Add 1 oz. of Grey Poupon to 8 oz. of cheap rot-gut gin...shake well...serve in a red plastic Solo cup.

By: yogiman on 12/5/12 at 7:17

And yeah, bfra, I've heard of Big Bird's saying. But I consider them like you and just consider the source and ignore your stupidity.

By: parnell3rd on 12/5/12 at 7:20

I find it amazing that you all forget there are a lot of very rich demoNcrats out there too.
You all keep drinking the kool aide, beliving in class warfare and watch our contry go bankrupt!

By: yogiman on 12/5/12 at 7:20

And why do I say stupidity, bfra? Because anyone who will accept someone as their president whom they have no idea who in the hell he is, and who refuses to identify himself, is an absolute display of ignorance. Some call it stupidity. I call it both.

By: parnell3rd on 12/5/12 at 7:22

The gov't can take all of millionaires and billionaires money from them and it will only run our out of control gov't spending for a few days.

By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 7:22

yogi calls that hilly few rocky acres a farm. No wonder he is laughed at by his neighbors.

By: Loner on 12/5/12 at 7:23

The collective face of the GOP today is a montage of Yogi, Rasputin, Parnell and Ben Dover? Sore-losers and delusional Bushmen....still pining for the Bush family dynasty....supporting the "Clone the Gipper" project....marching in lock-step backwards....God, Guns, Gays & Guvmint....a shrinking demographic of decreasing relevance....fresh out of ideas.

By: yogiman on 12/5/12 at 7:27

I'm not normal for my thoughts toward a man who refuses to identify himself as the president of this nation, bfra? I say you aren't normal to accept anyone who refuses to identify themselves.

Really, just who in the hell is he? Is he a true Democrat? Or could he not possibly be a Socialist? Possibly a Marxist? Possible a soon to be the dictator of the USA?

You better flush your brain out, kid. That is, unless you're a fellow communist with him.

By: Loner on 12/5/12 at 7:31

As for the ideological polarization in Congress, this cartoon pretty much sums it up:


By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 7:32

yogi - on the blah-blah-blah never ending BS course

By: Loner on 12/5/12 at 7:33

Yogi is raving a bit more rabidly this morning...or is it just my imagination?

By: treehugger7 on 12/5/12 at 7:33

Dead on, Loner! But without them, where would find humor?

By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 7:34

Good cartoon Loner!

By: Loner on 12/5/12 at 7:37

Amen, brother Treehugger, they are entertaining....but predictable.

By: Loner on 12/5/12 at 7:39

And this cartoon about the Fiscal Cliff is pretty good too:


By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 7:43

Loner - That just might be the way to go.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/5/12 at 7:46

HCA is paying unscheduled dividends to its share holders now in case we fall off the so-called fiscal cliff. I bet they don't give their employees any raises this year.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/5/12 at 7:48

Junior and his delusions of grandeur. LOL - a Nations scumbag who preys on lonely women thinks people here will actually believe his BS. It's entertaining and more than a little pathetic.

By: Loner on 12/5/12 at 7:51

Yeah, let the wave crash....the GOP might get washed out to sea...a few Dems might get swept away along with them....the American public is fed up with Congress and its demonstrated inability to do the right thing, for the most people, getting the best bang for the buck....blinded by special interest blind-folds, the beholden federal politicians are unable to do what the Founders had in mind....legalized corruption has paralyzed Congress....we may go into financial free-fall as a result....Wall Street could fulfill is own dire prophecies.

By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 7:53

IMO = Karl probably got a big dividend (sic) after his puppet council did his bidding last nite.

By: yogiman on 12/5/12 at 7:54


Fools like you are laughing now. I'm wondering how hard you will be laughing when Barry takes over. If you and your fellow posters have any, you had better worry about your children's futures. I just hope they don't inherit your ignorance.

Let's see what happens when they take this case to court in Florida.

By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 7:54

The USA would be better off if the GOP did get washed out to sea.

By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 7:56

yogi - According you you & your trash sites, this case has been going to court in almost every State. What happened? Your trash sites don't care what kind of lies they put out?

By: yogiman on 12/5/12 at 7:58

You can laugh about me, bfra, but be careful laughing at me. I would only accept it 'seeing' your obvious ignorance.

By: Loner on 12/5/12 at 7:58

HCA is spreading panic? Stampeding the gullible into full-blown mass hysteria? Frist is up to his old tricks?

It's no surprise. The sore losers are going to tank the US economy...just to "prove" their dubious arguments....to make the public wish that they had voted for Mitt and the GOP saviors....there will be finger-pointing, recriminations and blame-laying....and there will be media bias and spin about it all...but I think that the bus is going over the "cliff"....fasten your seat belt and pray that the "cliff" is just a short but steep grade.

By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 8:00

yogi - What happened to that sheriff in Arkansas? What happened to combover Trump? What happened to all the weirdos you co-hort with?

By: bfra on 12/5/12 at 8:04

yogi - Do you think I give a rat's patooty what you accept? Some crazy old fool that lives on a hilly pile of rocks & calls it a "farm" is just another example of how little you know.