Up for Debate: Folks at a folk festival

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 at 10:53pm

Nashville will host the National Folk Festival during the Labor Day weekend on the Bicentennial Mall. Reportedly, festival officials remain well shy of their fundraising goal but, nonetheless, have strong backing in honorary co-chairs: country and Americana music legend Emmylou Harris and Gov. Bill Haslam and his wife, Crissy. Supporters include the State of Tennessee, Metro, the Nashville Convention and Visitors Bureau, the Arts & Business Council, Bridgestone, SunTrust, Cracker Barrel, Nissan and Nashville Electric Service. To be held in Nashville for the next three years, the event is expected to draw about 60,000 visitors this September. How significant an economic impact will the National Folk Festival have on Nashville?    

89 Comments on this post:

By: govskeptic on 6/30/11 at 6:19

This could have great potential for Nashville for these 3 yrs and beyond if
successful. It's advertisements should go beyond just a country music
type festival, but a much broader spectrum to attract visitors who may have
never visited before!

By: dargent7 on 6/30/11 at 6:49

60,000 people downtown? Significant?
I'd think so.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/30/11 at 6:54

I may go to this, it sounds like it will be fun.

By: serr8d on 6/30/11 at 7:00

Nice debate topic.

Key words: pablum, unadventerous, timorous, played safe, innocuous, discreet, prudent, gingerly, inoffensive, guarded, wary, hesitant.

Feel free to add your own.

By: serr8d on 6/30/11 at 7:05

Oh, on whether such a venture will be successful? Depends on many things: weather, advertising (like this here 'topic'), and if people like me who dislike the brash and overly harsh conduct of Law Enforcement Officers can overcome their desire to stay home.

Here's a comment I left this morning on a Bangor, Maine site news site describing a homeless man who was arrested and jailed for charging his cellphone on a receptacle hidden on a downtown street... http://goo.gl/DyfB4

This, an excellent example of the difference between a Peace Officer and a Law Enforcement Officer.

A Peace Officer would've warned the guy. A Peace Officer would help a drunk get home from a bar, give him a ride or get him a taxi. Mission accomplished: no one was harmed or injured, and the situation was defused.

This Law Enforcement Officer found a way to make an arrest. That's what they do, that's who they are. They seek out ways to enforce the letter of the law, no matter how trivial or what consequences an arrest will have for the 'lawbreaker' or how much of a chilling effect they cause for society. Law Enforcement Officers seek to build up their own usually overinflated egos, and desire to make sure everyone knows that they are large and in charge.

Our nation now has many more Law Enforcement Officers than Peace Officers, and is in a much sorrier state for it.

By: Kosh III on 6/30/11 at 7:06

Yes, serr8d, it would be better if we discussed how rich corporations are plundering our economy and turning us into a third world society dedicated to making the super-rich even richer. Discuss how their puppets in government and the media have aided and abetted the coarsening of discourse and bamboozled people into accepting the lies of the right-wing.

Or we could talk about how conservatives oppose equal rights for all citizens and often seek to turn us into a theocracy with an oppressive religion that has a veneer of Christian-sounding propaganda, but is oppressive and abusive to all but the few chosen elite.

By: gdiafante on 6/30/11 at 7:07

I've always supported the city promoting different genres of music, this sounds like a good idea. And it is a nice debate topic, despite the troll.

By: serr8d on 6/30/11 at 7:15

gd, you are a troll. A large, donut-munching LeftLibProgg troll. From my perspective, of course.

And because you don't own this forum, my perspective is just as significant as yours.

Troll.

By: gdiafante on 6/30/11 at 7:16

How about we exercise some democracy and put it to the people? How many here think that serr8d is a troll?

By: serr8d on 6/30/11 at 7:16

Kosh III isn't even good enough to be considered a troll. S/he is an incessant bore, with little to add to any discussion; like an overly-filled toilet, just worthy of a glance and a quick flush back to sewerville.

By: serr8d on 6/30/11 at 7:17

That would be suppressing the minority, gd. Something good LeftLibProggs abhor, right?

By: serr8d on 6/30/11 at 7:20

Thing is, I don't live down here in the swamps all day long. I've work to accomplish; I don't steal access to company PC's like many of the denizens of this here forum do (any State employees browsing here? Anyone seen youngbuck lately?). And, I've my own personal blog.

You?

By: gdiafante on 6/30/11 at 7:22

Acknowledging the obvious isn't suppressing anything, serr8d. It's not restricting you from posting, it's not preventing you from exercising any of your freedoms. It is merely a public acknowledgement that you are, in fact, a troll.

By: gdiafante on 6/30/11 at 7:22

Well good for you, serr8d. Would you like a pat on the back?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/30/11 at 7:25

Liberal suppressing the rights of minority is one thing. I am not so sure that applies to Trolls.

I thought this debate was a folk festival.

By: yogiman on 6/30/11 at 7:44

How about we exercise some common decency and quit trying to constantly find some facetious comment to make toward a fellow poster on a common basis as some on this site are doing?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/30/11 at 7:44

Is serr8a threading people again with their job like he did with youngbuck? This only shows how low the Tea Party will go to control an opposing opinion.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/30/11 at 7:52

Let’s see how long it takes yogi, before he starts calling people names.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/30/11 at 8:01

Now back on subject.

I can remember the music festival that took place Deadrick Street some years ago. Maybe this would take its place.

By: serr8d on 6/30/11 at 8:14

Is serr8a threading people again with their job like he did with youngbuck? This only shows how low the Tea Party will go to control an opposing opinion.

I don't sew, Nemo. And I could care less what trolls like gd post.

Point being, in any forum gd visits that's not this one, he would be considered a lowdown LeftLibProgg troll. So, he's safely tucked away under this bridge, a leader-controll troll, and wants everyone...

It is merely a public acknowledgement that you are, in fact, a troll.

... to realize that.

Biggest, fattest, donut-stuffed frog in the smallest pond, and all of that.

By: budlight on 6/30/11 at 8:16

serr8d on 6/30/11 at 7:05
Oh, on whether such a venture will be successful? Depends on many things: weather, advertising (like this here 'topic'), and if people like me who dislike the brash and overly harsh conduct of Law Enforcement Officers can overcome their desire to stay home.

Serr8d, just in the past 30 days, during events held at the Centennial Park, the police have had to arrest thugs (who had no carry permits) for firing off guns in the crowds. My friends were there with their children. So Law Enforcement is a necessary evil in our society of "liberals" who think ill of those sworn to protect and defend us (such as law enforcement, laws, and our military).

I would go to this event simply because I like that type of music and the crowd it would attract might not be thugs and gang members.

By: budlight on 6/30/11 at 8:17

By: yogiman on 6/30/11 at 7:44
How about we exercise some common decency and quit trying to constantly find some facetious comment to make toward a fellow poster on a common basis as some on this site are doing?

It's a nice thought Yogi, however, remember "who" we are dealing with? Sad but true.

Have a nice day.

By: dargent7 on 6/30/11 at 8:29

When attenduing this Folk Concert, always remember to stay away from the brown acid.
And some of you guys need to lighten up. Only 4 of us actually met in person before.
So, all the name calling is against unknows and anonymous, fictitious persons.
Wonder what Freud would say about that?

By: bfra on 6/30/11 at 8:29

bud - It's a nice thought Yogi, however, remember "who" we are dealing with? Sad but true.
=======================================================

Are you talking about a cyberbulling troll that bombards other posters with his unsubstantiated bull, everyday 24/7, that includes weekends, no matter the topic? Or, his echo that chimes in like a troll booster?

By: serr8d on 6/30/11 at 8:36

Serr8d, just in the past 30 days, during events held at the Centennial Park, the police have had to arrest thugs (who had no carry permits) for firing off guns in the crowds. My friends were there with their children. So Law Enforcement is a necessary evil in our society of "liberals" who think ill of those sworn to protect and defend us (such as law enforcement, laws, and our military).

True, budlight, but you are pointing out egregious some great faults (morons firing guns in public, and other dumbazz behaviors) that police always need to address. My post points out that Law Enforcement Officers with attendant arrest-all-they-can bad attitudes tend to cause classical liberals like me to shy away from venues where swinging-c*ck LEO's reign supreme.

As opposed to venues where Peace Officers keep the peace, peacefully, without going overboard and being self-righteous overbearing asses.

By: bfra on 6/30/11 at 8:39

In the past, lots of street festival events happened. Today, there is no parking within a safe range for people to attend such events. Of course, there is parking, probably several blocks away and the risk of getting robbed, mugged, raped or shot on the way to the event. Karl has taken care of that, build it & they will come, is a dumb motto, if there is NO parking.!

By: gdiafante on 6/30/11 at 8:47

Troll: someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Here's some gems from Serr8d:

A large, donut-munching LeftLibProgg troll

S/he is an incessant bore, with little to add to any discussion; like an overly-filled toilet, just worthy of a glance and a quick flush back to sewerville.

Biggest, fattest, donut-stuffed frog in the smallest pond, and all of that.

To a certain extent, we're all trolls. However, serr8d likes to punch in, insult and then run away for another day like a little child.

The prosecution rests.

By: serr8d on 6/30/11 at 8:55

The prosecution troll rests.

FTFY

By: serr8d on 6/30/11 at 8:59

My 'troll' responses are just that, responses.

Keep your mouf shut, and you'll retain your teefs. Note who started trolling, and my responses.

My initial post; then the gd, that other thing, attacks, then my responses.

What else did you expect? another donut?

By: BenDover on 6/30/11 at 9:01

This has become such a liberal circle jerk that it is scarcely bearable anymore.

By: dargent7 on 6/30/11 at 9:12

Dr. Freud? Is Dr. Freud in the house? No?
Ok then, we'll settle for, "Calling Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard....."

By: budlight on 6/30/11 at 9:18

Dr. Phil? Oprah? A special show on HBO. Something. Anything. I remember when D7 argued with others. He is more ameniable now. What does ameniable actually mean?

By: BenDover on 6/30/11 at 9:22

lol dargent. You and Nemo are about the only reason to check this site at all anymore. Slack and House have mostly checked out. Blanket almost never shows... Loner's evidently doing clothing optional life-guard duty... and the other ghosts are long gone. Serr and I have been moved to the far right by a huge shift of the fulcrum through no fault of our own because we still face off against the Nazi cops as much as we bitch about taxes. Oh well... as I said... circle jerk.

By: BenDover on 6/30/11 at 9:25

Also love the stooges reference darge. Have not watched any of those in years.

By: dargent7 on 6/30/11 at 9:32

off-topic:
A bus station is where the bus stops. A train station is where a train stops.
My work desk is a work station....

Bud: Amenable is, "to agree with something you at first didn't". Like compromise.
Ameniable is, "friendly". Kinda like "affable".

I haven't argued that much on this bored since my good friend Clay Clouse, "dooley", died at only age 74. And then all the nonsense from "Dusty", his son, etc. about all the hurricanes, train wrecks, car accisents, a comas everyone was involved in......in the desert.
I figure I could be next.
Besides. The viral rampant psychos are housed over at The Tennessean.

By: dargent7 on 6/30/11 at 9:34

Ben: They are ALL on YouTube. It's amazing.
So are the Marx Bros. Amos & Andy. Laurel & Hardy.
The Marx Bros were funnier. In an intellectual sort of way.

By: BenDover on 6/30/11 at 9:36

Yes... it is a lot easier for me to watch the Marx comedy now than the Stooges as an adult. Love that quick witty dialogue.

By: BenDover on 6/30/11 at 9:38

I really miss the clever humor of the pre-70s era. Most of what you see now is shock-value disguised as humor.

By: BenDover on 6/30/11 at 9:55

I do miss Dooley... seemed to be a great guy.

By: RJP on 6/30/11 at 9:57

rjp Thats what we do in nashville a little something for everyone to get in on the have a great time! cool deal.

By: BenDover on 6/30/11 at 10:03

Yes... back on topic... I think the Folk festival will be awesome. They should get Joe Elmore and Tennessee Crossroads guys out there with cameras and do a full series on it for their show and as a promotional tool. Very good synergy there.

By: BenDover on 6/30/11 at 10:06

Tie it into an event at the farmers market too... and run a dozen buses on the Music City Circuit to shuttle people to and from Down-town and the Gulch. Do super-cheap or free parking in the state worker parking lots. Synergy between all of the interests should be the key.

By: gdiafante on 6/30/11 at 10:29

"Serr and I have been moved to the far right by a huge shift of the fulcrum through no fault of our own because we still face off against the Nazi cops as much as we bitch about taxes."

Pity party...table of two...

Your delusions of persecution are laughable.

By: yogiman on 6/30/11 at 10:30

bfra,

You can say what you wish about me. I just consider the source and ignore it.

What I have been trying to do is point out who, and what, this man sitting in the White House is.

So, let me ask:

If any other of our former presidents had doubled the National Debt which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in less than one term, would you have approved?

If any of our former presidents had then proposed to double it again within 10 years, would you have approved?

If any other of our former presidents had criticized a State Law that he admitted he had never read, would you think he was just an ignorant hot Head?

If any other of our former presidents joined the country of Mexico and sued a State in the United States to force that State to continue to allow illegal aliens to enter our country, would you question his patriotism and wonder whose side he was on?

If any other of our former presidents had pronounced the Marine Corps as if it were the Marine Corpse, would you have thought of him as an idiot?

If any other of our former presidents had put 87,000 workers our or work by arbitrarily placing a moratorium on offshore oil drilling on companies that have one of the best safety records of any industry because one foreign company had an accident, would you have agreed?

If any other of our former presidents had used a forged document as the basis of the moratorium that would render 87000 American workers unemployed, would you support him?

If any other of our former presidents had been the first President to need a teleprompter installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed and said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men people behind the scenes?

If any other of our former presidents had spend hundreds of thousands of Dollars to take his First Lady to a play in NYC, would you have approved?

If any other of our former presidents had reduced your retirement plan holding of G stock to 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have approved?

Just a little to think about.

Want more to justify your reason for wanting this man in the Oval Office?

By: dargent7 on 6/30/11 at 10:33

The Stooges did only "shorts". I think they were 18 minutes with two-three commercials growing up. 30 minute time slot.
The Marx Bros. did "feature lenght" pictures....1.5 hours.

By: brrrrk on 6/30/11 at 11:50

I'm curious how serr8d, who claims to be a "Randian Bidnessman", can run a business while posting THIS much?

http://www.google.com/search?q=serr8d

I suspect troll is the correct word, and that his "Bidness" is being one.....

By: brrrrk on 6/30/11 at 11:56

One has to wonder, that is if all GOP governors really think they are working on behalf of the majority of people and have their support, why it is that they went to all the trouble of keeping this secret......

http://www.google.com/search?q=koch+governors+vail+

Could it be that they know that their views are obviously in the minority and have little to no support among the masses?

By: brrrrk on 6/30/11 at 12:09

dargent7 said

"The Marx Bros. did 'feature lenght' pictures....1.5 hours."

I love the Marx Bros!! I have all their movies on DVD and they're all gems... some a little rougher than others, but gems all the same.

And for those who like the Marx Bros, I also suggest Wheeler & Woolsey movies... if you can find them.

WOOLSEY (worried about a noblewoman): She's liable to have us beheaded.
WHEELER: Beheaded?! Can she do that?
WOOLSEY: Sure, she can be-head.

Great stuff!!!

By: yogiman on 6/30/11 at 12:16

Okay, lunch is over. Hope these "quotes" don't make you throw up. Sorry if they do, but the facts are the sad truth.

If any other of our former presidents had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics children, would you have approved?

If any other of our former presidents had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?

If any other of our former presidents have given the Queen of England an IPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought it to be a proud moment for America?

If any other of our former presidents had bowed to the King of Arabia, would you have approved?

If any other of our former president had visited Austria and made reference to the nonexistent "Austrian language", would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?

If any other of our former presidents had stated there were 57 states in the United States, wouldn't you have had second thoughts about his capabilities?

If any other of our former presidents had filled his cabinet and circle of Advisers with people who cannot seem to keep current on their income Taxes, would you have approved?

By: gdiafante on 6/30/11 at 12:47

Yogi, your excersise in futility is getting old. He's the President. If you don't like it, vote for his opponent next year. Otherwise, you're spitting into the wind.