Up for Debate: Former finance chief says property tax hike may be necessary

Sunday, November 13, 2011 at 10:59pm

Is a property tax increase necessary to avoid deep cuts in Metro services?

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20 Comments on this post:

By: Loner on 11/14/11 at 5:54

Good morning, Nashville.

"Is a property tax increase necessary to avoid deep cuts in Metro services?"

No. Tax increases are not necessary. What is needed is more self-control on the part of those who are spending the tax revenues.

For example, does Nashville need to spend half a million dollars on a piece of public art? I'm thinking about the quilting project that was supposed to honor the underground railroad, but later was changed to a generic quilting-themed piece of art. Huh?

Paying Metro police officers to walk around neighborhoods sniffing for the aroma of Cannabis also looks like a waste of tax-payer money....then there are the prosecution and incarceration costs for putting these urban Cannabis farmers behind bars. Again, a ridiculous waste of resources, IMHO.

Taxpayer-supported professional sports teams is another questionable enterprise.

Sweetheart contracts and privatization scams also siphon off taxpayer cash.

Governments often pay more for real estate, manufactured goods and services than private enterprise will pay.

And there are always those kick-back deals. And those conflicts of interest.

My advice is to refrain from unnecessary spending and root out the corruption, don't raise taxes to cover up the waste.

By: dargent7 on 11/14/11 at 6:09

We have to raise the income taxes on the wealthy.
Close all these loop-holes only people making above $250,000 can take.
This just in.....MTA Bus wants to raise it's revenue.
Just against those who can least afford it.

By: govskeptic on 11/14/11 at 6:13

Instead of giving his own proposals first the Mayor through a distrusted
former Finance Director and through some extremely shaky story about
having done this "study" for some Seminar opens the subject with this
lengthy PR story! Truth in facts, motives, and policies are becoming
one of the rarest of items for this administration and in the politics of
so many other politicians of all stripes, positions and locations!

By: Loner on 11/14/11 at 6:40

New York found a way to levy a tax on ignorance....they call it the NY State Lottery. It generates mega-millions.

Of course, when the idea was first voted on, the promoters claimed that the money would go strictly to education...school taxes would go way down, they claimed...the ignorant masses acted like asses and believed the promises.

We were also told that the toll booths on the NYS Thruway (I-90) were just "temporary". They lied.

Politicians lie...in the Empire State and in the Volunteer State as well. It's the nature of the game...maybe the public just can''t handle the truth?

By: Loner on 11/14/11 at 7:15

Govskeptic, my 6:40 post was in response to your 6:13 post, especially this part: "Truth in facts, motives, and policies are becoming one of the rarest of items for this administration and in the politics of so many other politicians of all stripes, positions and locations!"

We agree on that much. Kum-By-Yah.

By: yogiman on 11/14/11 at 7:46

Loner,

Most of he public can handle the truth, but honestly truthful politicians are few and far between. That's why they don't get to stay in office very long.

By: treehugger7 on 11/14/11 at 7:52

Loner, we too have the tax on stupidity--TN lottery. I have watched people who have little money and no hope blow their last dime on it. Supposedly the money goes to scholarships, so it is supposed to be "good". I'm not savvy enough to refute that, but I know the graduation rates of lottery scholarship students are pretty low. Government run gambling is still gambling, and costing stupid people lots of money. If this is the best TN government can do, we need to start over!

By: yogiman on 11/14/11 at 7:53

Have you all heard of the UN Agenda 21? I recommend checking out "bobbi@tneagleforum.org" , but if you're in favor of a UN world government, you wont like it.

By: yogiman on 11/14/11 at 7:59

Ah, its okay for the 'guvmunt' to gamble, and its okay a citizen to buy into their gamble operation, but the individuals can't gamble privately.

Would the "guvmunt" let citizens gamble privately if the winners agreed to give a share of their winnings to the "guvmunt"?

By: Loner on 11/14/11 at 8:26

Treehugger, in NY, the tribes are running the casinos....hopefully, the profits benefit native Americans, not the mob by another name. Oversight on that is spotty at best.

In NY, the Lottery profits go into the General Fund...all complaints about the broken promises gradually faded away.

By: BenDover on 11/14/11 at 9:58

My taxes have gone up substantially because of reassessment over the past 5 years. When they reassessed Hickory Hollow Mall all of the down grade was pro-rated up against the homeowners even though our property values did not increase at all. Existing revenues is never the variable when government applies the formula.

Now they want to jack the rates on top of all of the reassessments and not take into account any of the homes that have gone down in value. Fun.

By: BenDover on 11/14/11 at 10:02

"Existing revenues is never the variable when government applies the formula. " unless they are going up, that is.

By: sidneyames on 11/14/11 at 12:03

sidneyames Loner said "For example, does Nashville need to spend half a million dollars on a piece of public art? I'm thinking about the quilting project that was supposed to honor the underground railroad, but later was changed to a generic quilting-themed piece of art. Huh?"

Loner, I just read (and can't find it) that the Mayor of Nashville, Karl (spend it while he can) Dean wants to buy a country club and turn it into a public park complete with tennis courts and pool. Would that in Antioch? Would that be in North Nashville? OR would that be West Nashville?

Yeah, we really need to buy a country club.

By: dick658 on 11/14/11 at 1:19

dick658
Ravenwood in Hermitage is what King Dean wants

By: JayBee56 on 11/14/11 at 1:22

Another option that is not on the radar is to gradually annex parts of the General Services District into the Urban Services District, thereby increasing the amount of taxes on the properties. This is being done quietly and being touted as "you won't have to pay for your garbage pickup anymore". I believe this is what led to the final approval of Metro Government in 1963 - the Mayor of Nashville began annexing areas of the county into the city and the county voters approved a metropolitan government in order to stop the annexations.

By: BenDover on 11/14/11 at 2:06

I hope they don't do that... I just put an offer on a house in the GSD.

By: yogiman on 11/14/11 at 4:56

You could move on out into Smith County, BenDover. We're only about 45 miles from BNA and the taxes are much cheaper.

You're only problem would obviously be having me as a fellow Smith Countian.

By: pswindle on 11/14/11 at 4:56

Dean has spent more than what we can give.

By: bfra on 11/14/11 at 5:04

King Dean is still spending! Hope those dumb enough to vote for him get taxed to the hilts, to bad those smart enough not to get taxed, also.

By: Nitzche on 11/14/11 at 10:40

here we go......for the kids, will cut services, police will come off street, firemen cannot put out fires,,,blah,blah,blah-------oh , but here comes the Dems-give it to me?