Up for Debate: Holder on the hot seat

Wednesday, June 20, 2012 at 10:05pm

News came Wednesday that a U.S. House committee recommended in a partisan vote to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress for not providing certain documents regarding the botched "Fast and Furious" weapons trafficking sting operation. The full House is expected to vote on the issue next week. Do you agree with the move to take such action against Holder? What you do think of President Obama's assertion of executive privilege over the files?

139 Comments on this post:

By: BenDover on 6/21/12 at 11:17

I think Holder's got some dirt -- recorded conversation or something. As I said otherwise he'd have bus tracks all over him by now.

Obama probably promised pardons all around to get the cooperation.

By: slacker on 6/21/12 at 11:30

Good stuff. I'm taking notes for the next edition of the: Grassy Knoll Gazette. lol

By: slacker on 6/21/12 at 11:34

''What did the President know, and when did he know it?''
-Howard Baker

By: gdiafante on 6/21/12 at 11:52

Holder has the President's original birth certificate, which states Obama is a white man from the planet Socialia. He was born in 1127 and came to Earth in the Spring of 1348, which caused the spread of the Black Plague. HIs real name is .._.'.

The council of Elders on Socialia decreed in late 1990 that Earth needed to be Socialized, so they initiated Project Yogi.

.._." was selected among the nearly 7 thousand Socialists that now call Earth home because his ears allowed easy satellite communication to their home planet. This is all on floppy disk and the hard drive of Holder's Commodore 64.

This is common knowledge, Ben.

By: BenDover on 6/21/12 at 12:10

Well... like I said, I've been following this for a couple of years now. Dismiss it like the crazy birther stuff if you like but this story really seems to have legs now that Obama has used Executive Privilege.

There are two fronts in this debate. The media front where most of the news outlets have buried 'Fast and Furious' for the past 2 years such that most of you have never even heard of it. And the facts front where "the most open and transparent administration in history" is now hiding behind Executive privilege.

By: slacker on 6/21/12 at 12:12

Come to think about it, Eric Holders birth certificate has never been made public humm..
Don't you have to be an American citizen to be Attorney General? hmmm...
Holders father was born in Barbados. hmmm...
Barbados probably has had some gun smuggling. hmmm...

By: slacker on 6/21/12 at 12:20

Ben, Holder is probably lying about when he was informed of the mess. Obama invoked executive privilege to stall until after the election. If he wins it won't matter, if he loses likewise. If the powers that be had just come clean on this, and fired some people it would be over. Its always the cover-up, both sides keep doing it. Arrogance at its best.

By: gdiafante on 6/21/12 at 12:30

I'd agree with that slack. And Ben, I'm not sure what news outlets you have been watching, but I've seen this on all the major networks, 24/7 entertainment stations and the internet.

Maybe you just don't like it because of the apathy the public is displaying. Don't fret, they have that for most issues.

By: Loner on 6/21/12 at 12:35

Fast & Furious is now Specious & Spurious?

By: BenDover on 6/21/12 at 12:40

Not until the last week or so gd.

By: Loner on 6/21/12 at 12:41

BTW, the bus bullying incident that is now a viral video occurred locally...a school located about 8 miles from here. We got knuckleheads here too. I hope granny collects big.


By: BenDover on 6/21/12 at 12:45

Well we've gone form a witch hunt to blame Obama for a Bush administration 'time-bomb' all the way to a cover-up of a likely perjury over an ill conceived Obama administration program that got a border agent and hundreds of Mexican nationals killed.

Happy to have helped you guys cut through your own spin.

By: yogiman on 6/21/12 at 12:47


I believe every one holding government office is required to be a citizen. What nation would want a foreigner in their political governmental offices? The only two jobs requiring the natural born citizen status is the President and Vice-President. And considering the Nixon mayhem, I believe that should include the Speaker of the House position.

Naturalized and native born citizens can go into any other office I know of except the two highest in the nation and the theme for that was to keep anyone out of office that could have a dual nation interest.

This is going to be a year no one will forget. If it looks like he can't pull it off, I believe Obama will put the nation under martial law. He's already got it set up by executive order and the worst issue is congress letting him put this crap off.

Are they "with him" or are they afraid of a race riot?

By: slacker on 6/21/12 at 12:50

Yogi, I was joking.. for crying out loud.

By: slacker on 6/21/12 at 12:51

I apologize to all for getting him started.

By: Loner on 6/21/12 at 12:52

Yeah, Ben, the conspiracy theories are being spawned right now...this is historic...or political histrionics...the media will decide.

I gotta roll...going to Albion, to pay my Village of Albion taxes....the old family homestead....yeah, even us leftists are not happy about paying taxes.....we too walk the line....or else.


By: slacker on 6/21/12 at 12:52

I'm now strangling myself. Goodbye cruel world.

By: gdiafante on 6/21/12 at 12:59

Again Ben, it's been covered for awhile now...which IMO has contributed to the apathy...call it burnout.

I know I'm at the point that I don't really care. One administration is as corrupt/inept as the other. Cynical? Absolutely. Prove me wrong.

By: gdiafante on 6/21/12 at 1:00

Yogi can't detect humor...he can't detect much, really.

By: yogiman on 6/21/12 at 1:01

Darn, slacker,

You're as good of an actor as Barry Soetoro. Heck, I thought you was serious. Sorry I misread your intentional display of ignorance.

By: slacker on 6/21/12 at 1:08

Thanks yogi. I studied under Meryl Streep.

By: yogiman on 6/21/12 at 1:11

You was a good student.

By: BenDover on 6/21/12 at 1:17

The birther wears Prada?

By: gdiafante on 6/21/12 at 1:18

When are you going to be on "Inside the Actors Studio", slacker?

I hear Lipton has an entire index card package awaiting...

By: slacker on 6/21/12 at 1:22

That was me singing ABBA songs in Momma Mia.

By: yogiman on 6/21/12 at 1:26

WOW! I was wondering who that was when I turned the radio off.

By: slacker on 6/21/12 at 1:32

Lipton wanted me to bump De Niro gdiafante.. I just couldn't do that to the old guy.

By: gdiafante on 6/21/12 at 1:38

He's old...just get Will Farrell to do his Lipton impression and he'd never know he wasn't on the show.

By: slacker on 6/21/12 at 1:46

''shake and bake''

By: bfra on 6/21/12 at 2:01

slacker - I wouldn't bump De Niro too hard, he's not that old......

By: slacker on 6/21/12 at 2:19

''You talkin' to me bfra?''

By: bfra on 6/21/12 at 2:31

Just making a suggestion!

By: yogiman on 6/21/12 at 2:37

Interesting. I've just read an article that states Obama made a pre-inaugural 'Pledge' on stopping guns to Mexico. Wonder what happened?

By: gdiafante on 6/21/12 at 2:39

I've just read...


By: slacker on 6/21/12 at 2:40

That was my Travis Bickel bfra.. apparently it needs work.

By: bfra on 6/21/12 at 2:45

Uh OK?

By: yogiman on 6/21/12 at 4:55

I'm sorry, gdiafarte. I wish you could read also.

By: FaceBook:Emmett... on 6/22/12 at 11:14

ObaMao's use of executive privilege is an admission of his own involvement in felonies which resulted in the death of a US Border Patrol agent. That is a capital crime under federal statute. I might cut a deal with Holder to take the death penalty off the table for him in exchange to true and honest testimony about his boss. Or maybe just turn both of them over to the Mexican government to stand trial for the murders of their citizens with the guns they provided to their drug cartel pals.

By: FaceBook:Emmett... on 6/27/12 at 11:14

Holder committed felonies which resulted in the deaths of TWO US federal Law Enforcement agents. ObaMao used "executive privilege" to cover him, thus admitting his own involvement in those felonies, which are capital crimes by federal statute. I'd like to see then prosecuted - and wouldn't take the death penalty "off the table", either.