Up for Debate: Inaugural oath protocol

Monday, January 21, 2013 at 2:00am

On the finer points of presidential inaugural procedures, what do you think should and shouldn't be included when a president takes the oath — for instance, swearing on the Bible and saying "so help me God"?

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101 Comments on this post:

By: Loner on 1/21/13 at 8:54

I gotta 'fess up, fellas....(sound familiar these days?)....i stole the line...actually, I reconfigured the line....Kermit the Frog's bicycle got run-over, in one of the Muppet movies...and the glib amphibian spoke the line....."Gone with the Schwinn"....credit Jim Henson et al.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/13 at 8:57

I did not see this until this weekend,Ben this is just brilliant about Raspy.

By: BenDover on 1/18/13 at 8:42
"As a productive addict of fun and frolic and of course financial freedom to pursue this desire at the highest level I bid this forum adieu until I have satisfied my fun and frolic agenda for today."

Possible Translation:

"I'm leaving the library now to sling this stack of Contributors... then catch a bus to Dickerson Pike where I'll use my hefty roll of ones to woo some toofless crack ho".

By: Loner on 1/21/13 at 9:00

Yeah...where IS Doctor Dover, this fine Monday morning? Probably in Washington, DC, throwing flowers before the Anointed One....Ben's a closet lib.

By: govskeptic on 1/21/13 at 9:00

Loner: Bimbo is not confined to the female gender, as we currently have a male
bimbo serving and have had others in the past. Just saying----

By: Ask01 on 1/21/13 at 9:05

Please don't misunderstand, Loner. I was not correcting or chastising you, merely adding a nugget of trivia to the pile.

All that money invested in trivia books at work.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/13 at 9:12

That was still funny Loner.

gov, Rasputin was a male bimbo, but I think thoese days are over for him. He now spends his time as a troll.

By: Ask01 on 1/21/13 at 9:23

An interesting point about Christmas, Captain Nemo.

I made the mistake once of pointing out the origins of Christmas, being an alternative celebration to offset pagan ritual and celebrations of the season to a deeply religious, very devout aunt.

Being a good Christian lady who truly believed, and seeing that I was family, she didn't make a big scene, but she did make her disapproval known quietly to me.

Many may be unaware that Christmas observations were actually banned in America and England by some high ranking "Christian" leaders.

In fairness and the interest of thruthfulness, the grounds for these actions rested not in a dislike of Christian observances, but in the fact some celebrations, as I've read, reached new lows in debauchery, drunkeness and gluttony, replicating an ancient Roman orgy.

Hmmm. To quote E. Scrooge, "You keep Christmas in your way, and let me keep it in mine," or some such wording.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/13 at 9:28

By: Rasputin72 on 1/21/13 at 8:49
Humble though I be, I must admit that it takes very little to appear superior to the "Simple Six"

This it for today. Productive society calls!

Translation;

I better go now. They getting too close for comfort.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/13 at 9:35

Ask01, most all of our Christian ritual comes from some pagan origins. The story of Christ is very close to that of Mithra religion.

http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/mithraism.html

I got to go for now, I will check in later if I can.

By: yogiman on 1/21/13 at 9:39

Your 8:46 false quote puts you in line for a law suit, B2, unless you can identify the Paul Wade that made that remark before I file suit.

But I won't sue you for a false quote if you'll check your favorite man from Kenya.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fECpVS6Drq/ and www.vice.com/read/is-this-obamas-kenyan-birth-video/

By: Loner on 1/21/13 at 9:41

I can't disagree with that, Gov....I Googled it...seems like there is a term for male bimbos: "himbos".

Bill Clinton was not dumb, he just thought with the wrong head, a couple of times....Junior Bush was a cheerleader in college.....that's gotta be a himbo gig.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 1/21/13 at 9:42

I can't handle the truth so I threaten lawsuits. Because I really believe a lawyer would take on that case.

-- P. Wade

By: bfra on 1/21/13 at 9:44

Blanket - Just had the best laugh from reading yogi's 9:39 comment. He really is a dodo head!

By: Loner on 1/21/13 at 9:48

Bn is troll-baiting? It's not nice to poke an old egg-sucking hound with a stick....even if he does crap on the carpet and he pisses on the porch....he can't help it....he's an old dog with failing sphincter control...and he only knows one trick....all day long, he rolls over and barks, "USURPER.....USURPER"....it's quite aggravating....annoying....and boring.

By: yogiman on 1/21/13 at 9:49

Lawyers will take on any case for the money, B2. But then why should anyone think an honest American would be making idiotic statements about someone?

Another little look at your man Barry. www.theobamafile.com/indexArchive.html/

And my I ask again; just who in the hell is this guy?

By: pswindle on 1/21/13 at 9:55

Can you even imagine the stink from the Christian Right if the Presdient did not use the Bible to be sworn in?

By: Loner on 1/21/13 at 9:55

See ya, Captain Nemo....may the force be with you...watch out for Klingons....reportedly hanging out in the rings around Uranus....make sure that you have some Dingleberry Torpedoes aboard when you transit that sector....keep a sharp eye out.

By: govskeptic on 1/21/13 at 9:55

A big disappointment in the festivities is that Lady Gaga's appearance will be for
Tomorrow night only for a private party for just the staff. She mostly likely will be
performing "Onward Christian Soldiers" or something similar without NBC
or other cameras present. I think they have just moved the cameras away
from Barney Frank leading the crowd in singing "YMCA", to much applaud.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 1/21/13 at 9:56

You got a point, Loner.

By: Loner on 1/21/13 at 9:58

Barney Frank has informed the MA gov that he wants to fill Kerry's seat, if Kerry becomes Sec of State....I am not making that up.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 1/21/13 at 10:01

That's interesting, Loner.

By: Loner on 1/21/13 at 10:05

Headline: Barney Frank says he wants to fill John Kerry's Senate seat

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/barney-frank-fill-john-kerry-senate-seat-article-1.1233150

Apparently, the well-coiffed Kerry has not responded to Frank's frank suggestion....

By: Loner on 1/21/13 at 10:08

Quite frankly, the image of Barney Frank filling anyone's seat is quite unsettling.

By: Loner on 1/21/13 at 10:10

No offense was taken, and none was intended, Ask01.

By: Loner on 1/21/13 at 10:16

By: pswindle on 1/21/13 at 9:55

Can you even imagine the stink from the Christian Right if the Presdient did not use the Bible to be sworn in?

Obama is stink-sensitive....he wears an American flag lapel pin too, albeit a reduced size one. I am surprised that the nut-jubs are not claiming that the Bible was fake...they could claim that it was a Koran in a defiled Bible's hard-cover....nobody bothered to open up the book and actually read it.

By: Ask01 on 1/21/13 at 10:30

We just ignore him and his ilk, Loner.

They are rather like a toothless old cur behind a rusty chain link fence, barking aimlessly at random autos and pedestrians. The targets of the noisy aggression pay little or no attention, but when barked out, the windbag plods heavily over to the doghouse, plops down triumphantly, and basks in the imaginary victory.

We have several on our street. Loud, obnoxious, but totally ignored, so I have practice in tuning the breed out.

By: Loner on 1/21/13 at 10:39

I know the type, Ask 01, they shut up when "barked out", or out-barked... after his perfunctory howling, growling and snarling, the old pooch will go and lay down...then lick his scrotum....and eventually nod off.

By: Loner on 1/21/13 at 10:58

BTW, we are having a lively discussion here:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/amid-the-siren-song-of-drone-strikes-obama-wont-tie-himself-down/267363/

An Israeli hasbarat has been following me on Disqus sites...he and I are engaging in a debate about Israel's use of assassination, as a tool of statecraft.

By: yogiman on 1/21/13 at 11:10

I'm glad he puts his hand over his heart instead of his crotch now and actually says the pledge of allegiance, Loner.., even though he doesn't mean it.

At least his lips are moving even if he isn't saying it.

By: Loner on 1/21/13 at 11:17

Check out the self-inflicted blood-letting in Iraq, as the faithful celebrate a Shia ritual:

http://www.euronews.com/nocomment/2011/12/06/iraq-celebrations-for-the-ashura/

....and this is in the 21st century, folks.....incredible.

By: yogiman on 1/21/13 at 11:25

I'll agree you seem to be a reasonably intelligent person, Ask01. But I have known many intelligent idiots in my life and you seem to be a very intelligent idiot.

Why? How can an intelligent person accept someone as their president when they don't even know who than person is? To me, that makes them an idiot. And there is not only a lot on this site, there is many in this nation and I can only come up with two reason for their acceptance of someone whom they have no idea who they are: his being the first black president of the USA and his handouts in buying their vote.

And to argue my point, I've never had it explained to me how a naturalized citizen from Indonesia could be constitutionally eligible for the Oval Office. That is, especially, if he has ever become a naturalized American citizen. But we don't know if he has or hasn't, do we?

By: Rasputin72 on 1/21/13 at 11:36

This member/guest week at the club. We were having our kick-brunch this morning. At the table this morning was the usual grumbling about the additional taxes imposed upon us by the Democrats.

A guest who was from California and in addition to the new federal taxation is subject to the new 13.3% state tax for high income people in California. He made a beautiful comment.

"It angers me and. pains me to be subjected to these taxes,but then again I had rather support the worthless in this country than I had to associate myself with them."

This proves that humans can rationalize their circumstances no matter what comes along.

As he finished his declaration I could not help but think of the dregs who dominate this site from their woeful existence and think how lucky I am and how profound was the statement from the fellow from California.

By: govskeptic on 1/21/13 at 1:55

Having watch more politics today than in a year plus, I note this observation.
If you are an Obama voter and more importantly if you are a committed
Liberal, you have surely gotten a call to arms with both the Inaugural address
as well as other comments made by the President today.

By: budlight on 1/21/13 at 2:16

By: Blanketnazi2 on 1/21/13 at 8:17
If the 10 commandments were taken seriously by those who claim to be Christians the world would be a better place. Instead they are often used to just judge others - see above.

Who's judging whom?

Loner on 1/21/13 at 8:50
In 2008, the choice was clear...either Obama & Biden or McCain and Palin....Hope & Change versus Same Old Shit...with an added twist: An Alaskan Bimbo as VPOTUS....how could any reasonable person have voted for that ridiculous GOP ticket?

Obama won in 2008, by default?

Or how about go with the enemy you already know about. Sometime "new" ain't always better as many such as yourself have learned, apparently the hard way. But he did use the Bible to swear "in" or was that "on"?

And in keeping with catty women everywhere, I do not like the new look of bangs on Ms. Obama. I thought she was more attractive with the hair off her face. I once read an article about "rich" women and how they always pull their hair back off their face. After that I was always looking at hairstyles of the rich and famous. Can't remember the magazine. But my unofficial survey was that it was true. So she needs to go back to her old style; it looks richer!

By: budlight on 1/21/13 at 2:22

By: pswindle on 1/21/13 at 9:55
Can you even imagine the stink from the Christian Right if the Presdient did not use the Bible to be sworn in?

Or maybe he should have sworn "on the lives" of his children. Then he would have a good reason to have the rapid fire machine guns protecting them. I've heard people swear on the "lives of " children. I think it is not nice to do that. And for the record, I was just kidding when I said Obama should do it.

He did what he thought would get (or keep) more support. He is slick that way. But lest I judge. I'll just pray for him to be the best he can be. That's all we can expect from anyone.

By the way: Question: If Chicago is totally run at this time by democrats, why don't they have the murder rates and crime down?

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/13 at 2:59

It is you bud that do the judging.

Chicago has more than its share of Christian Right -wing nuts.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/13 at 3:07

Rasputin smell up the place with his rude lies. The poor boy still hates his upbringings and wish he had found someone rich to make his dreams come true. His self loathing is just a sad comment on his disappointing life.

Hang in there old boy, you will die at some point.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/13 at 3:13

Rasputin must have wanted to be Romney€'s writer, by the way he posts. Maybe he will snag the ATTENTION of someone in the Romney camp and then he can ride on the coattails of someone really rich.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 1/21/13 at 3:16

Nemo, that is true. However, the crime in Chicago peaked in the 1970's. It has declined since then. Did you know that per capita, Nashville is listed as a more violent city than Chicago? The crime in Chicago also happens to be contained to certain neighborhoods. Downtown Chicago is very safe.

By: slacker on 1/21/13 at 3:24

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=8934288
nazi, 500 hundred homicides seems high, regardless of neighborhood.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 1/21/13 at 3:25

Nashville is ranked #49 on the most violent cities list. Chicago is #79.

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/crime-rates/top100dangerous/

By: Blanketnazi2 on 1/21/13 at 3:33

It does. I'm not saying I find it to be acceptible however relatively speaking it isn't a standout from any other city. Check out what I just posted.

One note - gun crime has gone down in Chicago since the stricter gun laws have been put into place. Not the other way around.

By: slacker on 1/21/13 at 3:35

nazi, you're right. If Nashville was a bar..we'd be closed down.
Nashville is bad to the bone, unlike the tranquil windy city.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 1/21/13 at 3:43

Statistics don't lie.

Chicago has and always has had a gang problem. That is the majority of the gun violence and it is localized within certain neighborhoods. Rahm Emanuel is working on gun control and tearing down delapidated buildings that are known to house criminals. There are also more community outreach programs being put into place.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 1/21/13 at 3:48

Chicago saw a major rise in violent crime starting in the late 1960s.[1] Murders in the city peaked first in 1974, with 970 murders when the city's population was over three million, resulting in a murder rate of around 29 per 100,000, and again in 1992, with 943 murders when the city had fewer than three million people, resulting in a murder rate of 34 per 100,000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago

By: pswindle on 1/21/13 at 4:32

If it were an idea world, the President would have taken the oath with his hand on a Constitution Book. and we would not have God in the swearing in because of the separation of state and church.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 1/21/13 at 4:35

I completely agree, pswindle.

By: Rasputin72 on 1/21/13 at 4:51

RAT........Do you want to share your relationship with Shannon Bishop?

It is okay to discuss it, your internet friends have a closet full of failures and skeletons

Some are even wheel-chair bound.

By: budlight on 1/21/13 at 5:02

: Captain Nemo on 1/21/13 at 2:59
It is you bud that do the judging.

Chicago has more than its share of Christian Right -wing nuts.

None of whom are currently holding office and in POWER/ DUH!

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/13 at 8:33

You are the duh...bud.