Up for Debate: iPad ... mini?

Thursday, October 25, 2012 at 1:15am

How do you feel about the new iPad mini? Do you see it as a logical next frontier for the company and handheld computers in general? Or is it a dud or a jump-the-shark moment for Apple? Bonus: What do you see as the most important technology right now?

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134 Comments on this post:

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/25/12 at 8:10

LOL, Ben. I have a Samsung and am very happy with it overall. It does a few quirky things that irriate me but overall it's good.

By: Loner on 10/25/12 at 8:11

Slack, Dick Tracy talked to his wrist...Maxwell Smart talked into his Shoe-phone:


The shoe phone is introduced in the first 2 minutes...it's a 30 minute clip.

By: budlight on 10/25/12 at 8:13

Loner on 10/25/12 at 8:39
I'm an old-fashioned guy...I'm content with my flip phone and my desktop PC....when it's upgrade time, I let one of my grandkids get the new device.

I went out for a brew or two last night ...I noticed that in the three bars that I visited, a lot of the patrons were on their phones....patron to patron communication may be on the way out...folks would march into the bar, while talking on the phone...outside, the smokers would be on their phones too.....on the sidewalks, pedestrians strolled with cell-phones engaged, as drivers drove by on the street, while yakking on their phones.
It was kind of a Twilight Zone feeling....as if I was the last human on earth without a communicator....and nobody noticed or cared, their minds were all elsewhere.

Loner, eventually these people will not even be able to talk unless they have a device in their ear. I saw a family of 5 at a restaurant; everyone of them had some type of phone or ipad and none of them were talking to each other. And they will wake up one day and wonder why their kids are in jail or not doing what they dreamed they would do when they planned a family. Or not!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/25/12 at 8:15

Ben, maybe your wife needs a phone that can read her hormone level and let her know if she needs to eat chocolate.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/25/12 at 8:16

bud's spending her disability money on booze. No surprise there!

By: Loner on 10/25/12 at 8:17

Actually, it's an 8-minute clip...it brought back memories...Don Adams was one of the great ones, IMO.

By: slacker on 10/25/12 at 8:23

Loner, the cone of silence was hilarious.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/25/12 at 8:25

That is not bad post slacker. Sci-Fi writers have seen the future and have encouraged inventor forward. Dick Tracy is a good example. Jules Verne wrote about Americans landing on the moon and being lunched from central Florida, long before it took place.

Twenty thousand Leagues under the Sea, was written 1870 and had a super powered submarine, the Nautilus, (Captain Memo’s Sub), 90 year before he USN lunched the nuclear sub of the same name.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/25/12 at 8:25

That's a good point, Nemo.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/25/12 at 8:28

I want an Iron Man suit.

By: budlight on 10/25/12 at 8:28

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/25/12 at 9:16
bud's spending her disability money on booze. No surprise there!

Obviously you can't read nazi; that was Loner who posted HE was at a bar. I don't drink, thank you. But you go ahead and print false statements. And I do not receive disability. That ended on October 1, 2012. But you go ahead and A$$ume all you want to.

And you are probably part of the 47%, because nothing that anyone says or does can convince you that Obama is bad for the country. That is, in plain and simple English, what the statement meant. It meant that there are people who will never listen.

Just like buying a cell phone and plan. I've had AT&T for 4 years; I can't stand them. My contract is up in December. Yesterday the salesperson was noticably exhausted after spending some time with me on the phone. I just simply said: "Mam, I'm sure that about 47% of your current customers want to leave AT&T and nothing you say or offer will convince them to stay". Same is true with Obama supporters. The 47% are convinced that he is doing the job he's supposed to do (giving away country) and they will not change.

I know no one who likes AT&T; and I only know that about 6 people on this site like Obama. Six people who are rolling in dough and don't need the handouts, so why should they care who wins? Oh, maybe I was wrong. Maybe they do need the gov-ment programs.

Obama needs to take Donald up on his offer. But he will not. He's too mired up in his lies.

By: BenDover on 10/25/12 at 8:28

Loved Get Smart too Loner.

Agent 99 was a 10 in my youthful perverted eyes.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/25/12 at 8:29


By: slacker on 10/25/12 at 8:29

I don't leave the house without my Dick Tracy ''Fedora''

By: Loner on 10/25/12 at 8:29

Bud is right on this one, we baby-boomers were the TV Generation...the Cell-phone Generation will be just as affected by technology as we were...the Internet Generation.....the Gadget Generation....Gadget Babies.....I don't know what they'll call this generation, but the relatively recent advent of personal electronic communication and information-sharing gadgetry is already a culture-changer....some of it good and some of it not so good.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/25/12 at 8:30

What, do you think she's less than a 10 now?

By: slacker on 10/25/12 at 8:32

nazi, aren't you accountants, carrying your smartphone in your pocket protector these days?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/25/12 at 8:33

slacker, I dare not misuse my pocket protector. Accountants Honor.

By: budlight on 10/25/12 at 8:35

City Paper is so deep; they are getting us all talking about the important subject of ipads and mini phones, when there is other news that more respectable medias are reporting, such as:

"Audio of phone conversations reportedly between former Centennial High School principal Dr. Frank Brown and a woman he had a relationship with were obtained by News 2 from the Williamson County School District."

Are these people nuts or what? In today's climate of journalism reporting every sneeze and wind gust, why would any man or woman who is in a teaching or other position at a school EVER have an affair with a student? If he's guilty, his life and any other members of his family is ruined. And the student's life won't be the same.

And by the way, Rape IS an evil act. I never said it was anything but EVIL. However, if the person does get pregnant, then the fact that there is a baby involved is NOT evil. The baby is an innocent victim. And abortion just makes it a double victim. There are people who were born out of a rape or incest and they turned out just fine. So there's no reason to kill them.

If you are a parent, look at your child and ask yourself: Would I be looking at this absolutely wonderful child in front of me if I had chosen abortion? And ask your child: Do you think you'd be better off today if I had ABORTED YOU?

By: BenDover on 10/25/12 at 8:36

My aged and squinting eyes have not really considered it, I guess, blanket.

By: yogiman on 10/25/12 at 8:38

Well, Loner,

I guess I'm different from you. In today's time, I feel a cell phone is like a gun... never leave home without it. I have one just in case I need it.

I'm doing business with Trac-Fone on a yearly basis and I've got over 4000 minutes piled up in it. There's just too much danger on the highways today to depend on someone in case of a breakdown.

By: slacker on 10/25/12 at 8:39

Nazi.. it would be sacrilege. and.a sure way to get booted out of the Loyal Order Of Accountants. .

By: Loner on 10/25/12 at 8:40

Ben, I'm not arguing that Presto Logs are more efficient or able to more produce heat energy than an equal weight or volume of gasoline.

Liquid fuels are easier to work with than solid fuels, as a general rule....and there are those nasty emissions...I did not say that the task was an easy one.

I'm not talking about a Presto Log fired boiler, on a steam-powered bike, although that too would be innovative...I want to see a super thermocouple developed...just heat it and generous amounts of electricity flow...enough to power a motorcycle, for example.

Such a bike would certainly steal the show at any current motorcycle show or biker event.....of course, riding that bike.... would be Jay Leno.

By: gdiafante on 10/25/12 at 8:41

If you are a parent, look at your child and ask yourself: Would I be looking at this absolutely wonderful child in front of me if I had chosen abortion? And ask your child: Do you think you'd be better off today if I had ABORTED YOU?

That's the dumbest thing I've read today. Why not ask Would you be better off if I decapitated you when you misbehave? or Would I be looking at this child had I been killed in an airplane crash?

F'ing stupid...

By: Captain Nemo on 10/25/12 at 8:43

Blanket, bud would never go into three bars in one night. She would either be too drunk to go to another bar or arrested for drunk and disorderly. Then again she may be bared from bars all together.

By: slacker on 10/25/12 at 8:45

Sidney.. what if the kid looks like the mailman, and people are whispering?

By: Captain Nemo on 10/25/12 at 8:46

It is obvious gdia, she is already hitting the bottle.

By: Loner on 10/25/12 at 8:50

I too had the hots for agent 99....so did 99 million other guys:


A great video!

By: Captain Nemo on 10/25/12 at 8:55

The Man from Uncle, The Woman from Uncle, The Wild, Wild West, Honey West, Inspector Gadget. All had gadgets.

By: yogiman on 10/25/12 at 8:57

Today's phone systems are much different that it was when I was a child. You was lucky to have one phone in your neighborhood and there was usually several users on the same line. Each one had a different ring to let them know who the call was to. Of course the women usually listened to all of the calls.

It cost an arm and leg to have a personal line.

Or course automobiles were like that, too. You was rich if you had a car. Today? You feel left behind if you only have one, especially if living in the country.

You can drive to the gym and walk around its track, but it's too far to walk down to the creek.

By: BenDover on 10/25/12 at 8:58

There are some interesting thermal engines built around shape memory alloys, Loner. I've done some playing around with Nitinol wondering if there's some way to use ambient heat to power locomotion.

I recently bought a small airplane motor with the though I might modify the head to enclose a nitinol spring with a reactant temperature triggered by the compression of the stroke (based on Gay-Lussac's law). Since the Nitinol converts heat energy into work it would seem to be a matter of pressurizing ambient air such that the temperature is high enough to trigger the reaction and the result would be ambient heat converted to work. Then it would exhaust the cooled air and suck in some more air in which the ambient heat has not been exhausted.

I think more likely that it will prove to be a more efficient form of heat exchange in the form of cooling than our current use of compressed refrigerants though. Overcoming the inefficiency of current heat exchangers via this method would seem to be an easier task than locomotion via ambient heat.

Oh... so many ideas... so little time.

By: Loner on 10/25/12 at 8:59

By: slacker on 10/25/12 at 9:45

Sidney.. what if the kid looks like the mailman, and people are whispering?

Honest mister, I never even kissed her....oh yeah, the tales we retired Rural Letter Carriers could tell....my, my.....oh yeah.

Here we go Slack....Rural Letter Carrier pulls into the farmer's driveway, as the farmer's shapely wife is weeding the petunias.....

By: Captain Nemo on 10/25/12 at 9:09

The idea of using rooftops in cities is something to think about, for two reasons. The roofs of buildings would be used for solar panels and that would be used as an offset for the building energy needs.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/25/12 at 9:11

Loner, would that kid be playing a saxophone?

By: slacker on 10/25/12 at 9:18

With ''Holy war sucks'' on its diaper.

By: BenDover on 10/25/12 at 9:24

lol slacker.

By: slacker on 10/25/12 at 9:26

I see where a Brazilian women sold her virginity to a Japanese man for $780,000.
That's twice as much as she got for it the last time.

By: Loner on 10/25/12 at 9:26

Very interesting, Doctor Dover.

My fantasy bike's power-plant would not use ambient heat; it would convert heat generated by a Presto Log directly into a direct current....that current would power a high-efficiency electric motor...regenerative brakes, of course....the whole bike would have to be quite light, since there would be no heavy battery pack, the weight saved could help a lot.

Ben, I would defer to you on hi-tech savvy....right now heating two dissimilar metals generates a tiny current, it's what they stick into the pilot light flame on gas-fired hot water tanks, furnaces etc....in your opinion, Ben, could this method of generating electricity be refined, expanded, tweaked enough to generate the kind of power I'm talking about...or is it a pipe dream?

Maybe the two dissimilar metals could be exotic alloys...with some sort of catalytic agent in the mix? Maybe a bundle of more than two dissimilar metals could be the way to go.

If one could do what I'm merely fantasizing here, they'd probably be awarded the Nobel Prize in Science...it would be revolutionary. ...just throw this thing into your campfire and it could power your camper...and more.....wouldn't that be cool?

By: bfra on 10/25/12 at 9:27

Judge Allred got her wish. Romney's sealed testimony will be released. Now that should be interesting.

By: Loner on 10/25/12 at 9:35

Gentlemen....what happens on the mail route stays on the mail route...any resemblance, real or imagined, between the mailman and the kids on his route is purely coincidental...and NO, I will not submit genetic material for DNA analysis and cross-referencing...why, all those kids were merely emulating the Lone One....simply childish mimicry.....and those stories that those sluts on my route are making up are pure fabrications....an attempt to extort and exploit a situation...just to get on TV and sell their sordid, tawdry, bawdy books....shameful!!

By: slacker on 10/25/12 at 9:42

The Postman always rings twice
-The mailman groupie

By: BenDover on 10/25/12 at 9:47

I think I was trying to go directly from heat to work because you lose a bit of efficiency in each exchange. (in your case from heat to electricity to work.

Some hybrids are an interesting twist on your design. the Internal combustion engine is inherently inefficient. (though making substantial advances all the time) But a small IC engine engineered to work at a specific power-band and torque can drive a generator quite well. This can feed batteries or ultra-capacitors quite well. Batteries provide a more dense form of storage for the energy but the ultra-capacitors are good for surges in output and consumption of electricity so they form an excellent buffer for the regenerative technology you mention and provide quick source for variable power output necessary in electric applications.

If they ever get the ultra-capacitor technology up to the same weight and density of batteries it's check-mate because you'll be able to fill up with electricity as fast as you can with gasoline.

I'm pretty sure that the simple physics of 114,000 BTUs per gallon of gasoline put the sterno log at a distinct disadvantage but I can't find btu ratings on that with a quick google. search.

By: Loner on 10/25/12 at 9:48

You guys are cracking me up here...I see a T-shirt with this text:

I Get My Ya-Yas Out On The Nashville City Paper Online Comment Boards.

I'd put this URL under that text:


Whaddya think?

By: gdiafante on 10/25/12 at 9:53

That's it...keep focusing on the mailman...nothing to see here...

-The milkman

By: slacker on 10/25/12 at 9:54

Do you have an electromagnetic propulsion design Ben?

By: Captain Nemo on 10/25/12 at 9:54

What do we get in return?

By: yogiman on 10/25/12 at 9:55

Who's that young man that looks like you down on Route 2, Loner? Was that the last stop on your route?

By: gdiafante on 10/25/12 at 9:55

[click] ..!.

By: slacker on 10/25/12 at 9:58

Loner, whats the R-factor value, of a home insulated with missing junk mail, and Playboy & Hustler magazines?

By: gdiafante on 10/25/12 at 9:59

I have to wonder, Ben, why that technology isn't prioritized. As much as the ME controls the global oil prices, we could completely turn around our economy.