Up for Debate: 'Irresistible' and legally fired

Wednesday, December 26, 2012 at 2:22am

The Iowa Supreme Court has ruled against Melissa Nelson, who claims she was fired for being "irresistible" to her boss? What do you think about the case and ruling? Who's in the right?

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142 Comments on this post:

By: budlight on 12/26/12 at 9:22

Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 9:18
bud, read the Treaty of Tripoli. It was regarding Muslims who were referred to as Musselmen in the treaty.

Blanket, you are way too edjucated for me. I'm just now reading Dick and Jane according to our resident scholar, Nemroid.

Let's just stick to the story of the day and you all can banter amongst yo-sefs!

Oh heck! Got to go. This has been so much fun, I'm beside myself (now there are 2 of me).

By: parnell3rd on 12/26/12 at 9:25

Loner, I know for a fact that no one in New York State can own any gun with a magazine capacity of 10 rounds. I also know for a fact that convicted felons can not own guns.
But in America you can murder your own grandmother with a hammer, get out of prison, only to murder your family, burn their houses down and murder firmen.
But, no, we don't want to look at the horrible crimes he commited, you and others blame the GUNS!
Are you going to scream to outlaw hammers and fire?

By: budlight on 12/26/12 at 9:26

Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 9:13
bud, you also realise the history of the republicans and how the core beliefs of the republican and democratic parties flip flopped?

By the way, I see the core value of the democratic party as this: "Get all you can for free; redistribute the wealth of those who work hard; be sure to keep your hand out so you don't drop anything that falls your way; and last but not least, VOTE for the guy who can GIVE you the most stuff".

Sorry blanket, I don't see it your way. My taxes are going up and it's only so illegals and lazy(ies) can get more. It will not benefit me to pay more taxes.

By: bfra on 12/26/12 at 9:30

Loner - Bud's responses are always based on her own morals, which from her past comments are zero.

By: parnell3rd on 12/26/12 at 9:30

I'm glad I live in a right to work state. Not controlled by unions. We're controlled by corrupt politicians!

By: budlight on 12/26/12 at 9:31

parnell3rd on 12/26/12 at 9:25
Loner, I know for a fact that no one in New York State can own any gun with a magazine capacity of 10 rounds. I also know for a fact that convicted felons can not own guns.
But in America you can murder your own grandmother with a hammer, get out of prison, only to murder your family, burn their houses down and murder firmen.
But, no, we don't want to look at the horrible crimes he commited, you and others blame the GUNS!
Are you going to scream to outlaw hammers and fire?

Parnell, that would be "ban matches and lighters -- and flint rocks". These libtards can't hear you Parnell. Speaking logic is not one of their strong points.

The monster should have never left prison for taking a hammer to an 82 year old woman. That is as cowardly as killing 6 year olds. But if he or the kid in CT had lived, the libtards would want them both coddled and treated like kings for the rest of their miserable lives. Anyone who takes a weapon to a senior citizen or child does not deserve a "fair trial".

So save your breath Parnell; they can't hear you or read your logic. Their dictionary does not have the word LOGIC in it.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 9:36

Actually, our taxes are not technically going up - the tax breaks are expiring. I don't know why they were given in the first place. If SSI and Medicare are hurting, why cut payroll taxes?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 9:36

I prefer life without parole. I am against the sentencing guidelines here in TN. It's ridiculous.

By: budlight on 12/26/12 at 9:39

: bfra on 12/26/12 at 9:30
Loner - Bud's responses are always based on her own morals, which from her past comments are zero.

Well, it takes a ZERO to know a zero. How's your hair cut lately? You must have skipped the latest one and you do need to get that lipstach waxed bfra; it's making you look more unattractive than usual. Oops! don't forget the nosehair. Your responses are baseless. At least I have morals. More than I can say for you bfra!

Shut up and crawl back into your cave! You're steenking up the place.

By: bfra on 12/26/12 at 9:41

When there is absolute proof of someone committed murder, why should that murderer have to right to live?

By: Captain Nemo on 12/26/12 at 9:43

You are wrong, bud. Dick and Jane is above your level. As bud own testimony that she can only stick to one subject at a time.

By: bfra on 12/26/12 at 9:43

s/h/b - committing! & have "the" right.

Loner - Guess I need a cup of coffee.

By: budlight on 12/26/12 at 9:44

Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 9:36
I prefer life without parole. I am against the sentencing guidelines here in TN. It's ridiculous.

Yeah, that gives them a chance to watch tv, read, do crafts, work at the prison . . . . you know . . . . have somewhat of a life.

I prefer the death penalty for such heinous crimes - and swiftly carried out so they don't get to have the US taxpayer foot the bill for the rest of their life. Tell me Blanket, what value to society is Charles Manson today? Or better, what value to society has he ever been? Would you rent him a room in your home? Or invite him to dinner?

Sorry, I don't think "life" in prison is what a heinous crime is worthy of.

By: bfra on 12/26/12 at 9:45

Bud your hygiene is not anything we want to hear about!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 9:47

Life in prison is no walk in the park. I don't agree with our government having the authority to execute anyone outside of treason. We also do not need to go down the slippery slope of now allowing the appeals process. I do believe in life without parole which btw costs the taxpayer less in the longrun.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 9:47

s/h/b "not allowing the appeals process."

By: dargent7 on 12/26/12 at 9:49

So, arm gramdma and firemen? A large percentage of Americans are mentally unbalanced, on drugs, or just plain f****ed-up. Ruined as childrenby their parents or bad genes and it just got worse.
All the guns on Earth will not stop these crazies. Half commit suicide or get killed by Police. The other half blend in and walk among us.
Notice how 90% shoot themselves in the head after they kill?
If someone wants to jump off the Golden Gate bridge, let them.
The Emergency Call boxes are a great idea but now nets, fencing, Police presense is out of control.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/26/12 at 9:51

It takes a zero to know a zero? So bud, being less than a zero, how do you think? You keep subtracting your worth by the second.

By: Loner on 12/26/12 at 9:53

Amen, Bn, there is no easy answer to this vexing issue.

I do know that The Founders had not originally thought to include firearms ownership as a top-shelf right...it was an afterthought....one of twelve afterthoughts that became the Bill of Rights, the first 10 amendments...two of the afterthoughts did not make it to the level of sacrosanct inalienable right.

The 2nd amendment contains a compound prepositional phrase that justifies the debatable declaration; but that phrase is often omitted in the pro-gun talking points and right-wing media hype.

Here is the phrase: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,". This all-important prepositional phrase gives us a clear clue as to the Founder's intent; clearly, this was about national defense in frontier times, when there was no standing army to defend the citizens from foreign attack, and/or armed reprisals from the native Americans.

Today, we have the US Army, Navy and Air Force as well as the National Guard and Enlisted Reserve to do the job that the citizen militia once were forced to do. Today, we have the Pentagon...not citizen militia, to provide for our national security.

The "well regulated Militia" concept certainly backfired in 1861; when the Southern militia went to war against the Northern militia...."well regulated" my ass!

The 2nd amendment should have been abolished when the militia idea backfired....when the Southern gun nuts were out of their seats in the US Congress.

BTW, the Constitution of the CSA also enshrined the same words that are contained in the 2nd amendment....verbatim. Of course, African Negro slaves were deprived of that right....the right was never intended to be a universal right.

When we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and guided them through their democratization phase, the right for individuals to keep and bear arms fell through the cracks...there is no such legal right for individuals in those newly democratized states to keep and bear arms....apparently we export a new and improved form of democratic governance, but we keep the old, obsolete and dangerous stuff here....for domestic consumption.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 9:56

Loner, the ironic thing is that many on the right who fear a police states are the ones driving us toward one.

By: Loner on 12/26/12 at 10:09

Parnell's 9:25 post fulfilled the prophecy expressed in my 8:54 post....the reducto ad absurdum tactic has been trotted out.

Darge, I agree, I'd follow the dental assistant to her new place of employment...screw the hen-pecked docile dentist...nothing like a hot dental assistant to take one's mind off the drilling and filling...."But honey, we gotta stop meeting like this....every tooth has been filled and my insurance ran out."

By: Captain Nemo on 12/26/12 at 10:11

Blanket the fringe right are to damn stupid to know this fact.

p3 hates unions and is being control by corrupt politicians, is a good example.

By: govskeptic on 12/26/12 at 10:14

Capt: I agree entirely with your 8:17 comment on "right to work" Of course, the
body politics and law have lots of terms that are just the opposite of how
they read or impressions given. Usually the misguidance is intentional.

By: dargent7 on 12/26/12 at 10:15

You posters piling on Bud today reminds me of when June Cleaver said to Ward, "Don't you think you were a little hard on the Beaver?"
Personally, I hate our "system of justice" and the whole "life without the possibility of parole". sentence. What, then, is the point?
Even if rehabilitated the convict will die in prison. And cost us $35,000. a year providing medical care, libraries, cable,visitation, housing, food.....
Some of these crimes committed today are so bizzare, cruel, and senseless, the guilty should be put to death upon conviction within 6 months to a year. Not 15-20 years of appeals making PD's rich.
And the defenses lawyers come up with are a joke: "Twinkie" eg.

By: Loner on 12/26/12 at 10:16

Amen, Bn, another self-fulfilling prophecy...funny how the Rightwing Christian media seem to be advocating what they claim to fear....anarchy. The preppers have invested in the end times hoax; they want action....now.

Some Christian churches have their own militia...we have a group like that in Orleans County....they are not about to turn the other cheek....they are not meek; but they actually think they deserve to inherit the earth...any of those types around Nashville?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 10:23

I'm not sure if there is in Nashville but I'm sure there is in TN.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/26/12 at 10:23

Well it is time for me to head home. I had a great time with my daughter and my sister in law. I got to explore my daughters new home of Greenville, South Carolina. I check in later if I have the time.

Blanket remind me to tell you about the great places to eat. here.

By: dargent7 on 12/26/12 at 10:23

This whole, "right to work", "right to fire", "at will" is kind of a joke.
The UN employment rules in all states is quite liberal...unless the employer fights it. And many always do.
They'll bring up the fact you once yawned in a sales meeting and were on drugs.
They'll paint a negative picture of you so that it's virtually impossibnle to know why you ever got hired.
And the employee will paint the employer as serial rapists and pornographers who worship Satan on Sunday's.
And if you "quit" for "just cause", you better have F. Lee Bailey as your lead attorney.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 10:24

Nemo, we need to go to lunch when you get back. Safe travels!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 10:27

http://forthoodattorney.com/archives/352

Here is some interesting criticism of the death penalty.

By: yogiman on 12/26/12 at 10:28

It's the economy, y'all. I didn't make note where it was at but I read an article where a sheriff was emptying his jail because he didn't have enough money in his budget to house and feed them.

The "good ol' USA is on it's way "out the door".

By: Loner on 12/26/12 at 10:30

Have a safe journey, Captain Nemo.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 10:31

The senseless "war on drugs" has drained taxpayers and benefitted the for profit prison systems.

By: dargent7 on 12/26/12 at 10:32

BTW: I have a favor to ask.....
The main reason I moved was because the new owner tore our house down in Sylvan Park (44th and Dakota Ave. 3rd lot from the corner) to build another plastic piece of shit that sells for $600,000. That's the current trend in that neighborhood....tear down a $275,000 home built in the 50's and erect a modern plastic one with all the beautiful trees gone too. Like 100 year old oaks.
I'd like a cell phone picture of the property to see the progress of the new house.
The place was demolished on Oct 5, so I'm sure it's almost done by now.
If anyone can do this, I'll forward my e-mail address to get the up/down loaded pics.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 10:33

http://www.newson6.com/story/17374197/elderly-craig-county-woman-busted-for-marijuana-possession

By: Rasputin72 on 12/26/12 at 10:33

I can remember as a child when my highly religious mother forced me into church at every available moment hearing a preacher of fire and brimstone and tithing urging more money in the till. He always injected into his sermons " Money is the root of all evil"

As an adult I have discovered that organized religion is nothing more than a sidebar in the adventure of life, I have come to the conclusion that "poverty is the root of all evil"

By: Loner on 12/26/12 at 10:37

If it's OK to fire a woman for being irresistible, it's now OK to fire a woman for being butt ugly? Apparently so in Iowa.

There are a lot of butt uglies out there...not that many irresistibles...those who are clapping for the dentist's wife (ladies like Bud) ought to think about what they are applauding.....this is a dangerous precedent.

If a man had been fired by his female boss, for being too damned hot, the Iowa judges might have sided with the man?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 10:38

Loner, this case opens a can of worm for future cases, doesn't it? I don't like the legal precident that it sets.

By: Loner on 12/26/12 at 10:43

The Grey Poupon stained philosopher shares his wisdom: " I have come to the conclusion that "poverty is the root of all evil".

The Lanza family, of Sandy Hook infamy, were well-off....how does that fit with your philosophy, Rasputin?

Rasp, should we try to end poverty or just eliminate the poor?

By: bfra on 12/26/12 at 10:46

Loner - Your "butt-ugly" comment might be the reason bud can't get a job & if she happens on one, can't keep it.

By: budlight on 12/26/12 at 10:57

So bfra what is the reason you can't get a job? Or keep one if you do? Oh you are so holier than anyone else. I know you get "off" on dissing me. That's your only form of release. Shame, isn't it?

By: Loner on 12/26/12 at 10:59

Bud and Miss December, 1966 were look-alikes; or so I'm told, Bfra....what was hot during the Vietnam War era is not-so-hot today....saggy, baggy, haggy, no-longer-shaggy, former hotties are now endangered workers, thanks to the Iowa Decision. Best to retire now, if one can, before the beauty pageant comes to your workplace.

By: brrrrk on 12/26/12 at 11:01

Blanketnazi2 said

"When John Quincy Adams took the oath of office he did not want to involve the Bible in politics so he was sworn in with hand on a book of law and the Constitution. He did not use the Bible. Our founding fathers were serious about separation of church and state."

Ben Franklin left Massachusetts because of the crazy-assed Puritans; a group that thought 17th century Europe wasn't religious ENOUGH!!!

By: yogiman on 12/26/12 at 11:03

I don't believe anyone convicted beyond any reasonable doubt should be placed in prison for life without parole. Some judge "down the line" may release someone.

The point is; prosecutors don't want to lose a case and evidence is often denied in court.

I saw a show on TV recently where so many men had spent years in prison convicted without cause.

By: brrrrk on 12/26/12 at 11:05

parnell3rd said

"I'm glad I live in a right to work state. Not controlled by unions. We're controlled by corrupt politicians!"

Well, I can see p3 got a new set of rose colored glasses for Christmas.... the kind especially designed to filter out Tennessee....

By: Loner on 12/26/12 at 11:06

My former boss was a lesbian who somehow got her ruthless girlfriend into the workforce...the girlfriend was my sub...if I could be unhorsed from my job, the boss's girlfriend would get my job...I could write book about what those two put me through over the years....if the Iowa Decision was in effect in my workplace, those two nasty bitches would have nailed me....my union actually saved me from their wickedness...no, I am not making this stuff up....I earned my retirement, believe me.

By: budlight on 12/26/12 at 11:07

Loner on 12/26/12 at 10:59
Bud and Miss December, 1966 were look-alikes; or so I'm told, Bfra....what was hot during the Vietnam War era is not-so-hot today....saggy, baggy, haggy, no-longer-shaggy, former hotties are now endangered workers, thanks to the Iowa Decision. Best to retire now, if one can, before the beauty pageant comes to your workplace.

Again, Loner, I ask: Who hurt you? Who did you hurt? You and bfra are so bent on demeaning me. It's sad. I feel sorry for both of you that you have to say harmful, hurtful things about others to make yourselves feel good. I bet when you post it and hit "post comment" you are frothing at the mouth with glee!

SAD! I hope you both get some help.

Speaking of help, Blanket, did you read The Help or watch the movie? It was interesting.

By: bfra on 12/26/12 at 11:09

bud - When have I plastered my picture all over facebook & directed people to the site? Why you did, is beyond me! When have I repeatedly complained about not finding or holding a job? When have I bragged about getting SSI or any other freebie the gov. hands out so freely?

By: brrrrk on 12/26/12 at 11:17

bfra said

"bud - When have I plastered my picture all over facebook & directed people to the site? Why you did, is beyond me! When have I repeatedly complained about not finding or holding a job? When have I bragged about getting SSI or any other freebie the gov. hands out so freely?"

The word "DUH" comes to mind.... but then again, Bud's the perpetual victim...

By: Loner on 12/26/12 at 11:18

Bud, you accused the dentist and his assistant of adultery; yet there is no evidence to support the charge...I just called you out on that....nothing personal.

And you supported the wife who wanted a good worker fired, for being too good-looking....the double-bladed axe chops both ways when we let the beauty factor enter the workplace equation...think about what your are cheering for.

No, I am not an unloved loner in real life....do not be bumfuzzled by my username.