Up for Debate: 'Irresistible' and legally fired

Wednesday, December 26, 2012 at 2:22am

The Iowa Supreme Court has ruled against Melissa Nelson, who claims she was fired for being "irresistible" to her boss? What do you think about the case and ruling? Who's in the right?

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By: bfra on 12/26/12 at 11:24

brrrrk - The word "DUH" comes to mind.... but then again, Bud's the perpetual victim...
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By her own comments!

By: Loner on 12/26/12 at 11:26

Bud, I was a good-looking young man, in 1966...I would not have taken kindly to being fired then, because my boss's spouse thought that I was too good-looking...likewise, I would not want to be fired today, for being too old and ugly....this is my point, no offense intended.

By: Loner on 12/26/12 at 11:36

Brrrk, Parnell found some of the good stuff under his tree...the real tin foil, not the aluminum crap...he's tuning in to higher frequencies and now has expanded band width....(cue sound of theremin instrument)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5qf9O6c20o

By: Captain Nemo on 12/26/12 at 12:01

Is that you reason for being such a evil ass hole, Raspy old boy. Being raised in a poor environment?

By: Captain Nemo on 12/26/12 at 12:04

bud was the centerfold of Trolls Butt Ugly?

By: Captain Nemo on 12/26/12 at 12:08

bud's family crest is the Duh Bud

By: Captain Nemo on 12/26/12 at 12:09

Now as Willie Nelson would say, Back on the road again.

By: bfra on 12/26/12 at 12:29

Nemo - Be safe! Just started a little snow here. Very fine & grainy, thus far.

By: budlight on 12/26/12 at 12:44

brrrrk on 12/26/12 at 11:17
bfra said

"bud - When have I plastered my picture all over facebook & directed people to the site? Why you did, is beyond me! When have I repeatedly complained about not finding or holding a job? When have I bragged about getting SSI or any other freebie the gov. hands out so freely?"

The word "DUH" comes to mind.... but then again, Bud's the perpetual victim...

I have never said I was a victim. You are the one who keeps saying it.

I am on social security retirement because I was forced by the gov-ment to pay into it, as you all are IF you have a job.

Facebook is a social site? What's wrong with telling people about it? You dumb or something? Or just behind in the times.

I know you all feel better about dissing me. I'm so happy for ya'll. Anyway, life is good in my corner of the world. Too bad you all have to be mean to feel good about yo-sefs!

By: bfra on 12/26/12 at 12:47

bud - Maybe if you used better English you could get & hold a job. As an employer, I never hired people that used bad English, or had a "smart" mouth.

By: Rasputin72 on 12/26/12 at 1:02

Nemo,my good man poverty is something you escape rather than embrace. Evil incubates more quickly among the poor than the productive class because there is more to gain and less to lose.

Some people from the poor side believe you have to DO something to get rich. Others believe you have to BE something to get rich. I subscribed to the latter.

I did not do it all on my own. Without good genetics there is no escape.

Evil lurks in the minds of men from every caste. Only among the impoverished is it a contagious virus. It starts with "I want, I want, I want, and is fed by the stark reality of I can't have and I can't have. That to me is evidence enough of why evil breeds so quickly among the impoverished underclass.

As for the question posed by LONER, I do not think that poverty can be totally eliminated by any society. Lyndon Johnson's GREAT LEAP FORWARD failure is enough for me to say that some people are just destined to be UNDERCLASS. Society (if society exists) will be battling the theme and cause of poverty 1000 years from now and unsuccessfully I might add.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 1:42

“Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime.”

― Aristotle

Not addressing poverty is a bad thing.

By: Rasputin72 on 12/26/12 at 2:50

I agree with Blanketnazi! Each of us must address poverty in our own way.

Qu'ls mangent de la brioche.

By: bfra on 12/26/12 at 3:04

Raspy you really should type it correctly, "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche

By: pswindle on 12/26/12 at 3:12

TN is now a right to work state. Haslam and his friends in the TN legislatiave Branch gave him a big present which he wanted. With all of his businesses, he and his family can fire and do as they please without any recourse. It makes me laugh when I think of all the people that gave their rights away. If you are treated badly or fired regardless of the reason, you cannot do anything about it. The GOP in TN voted as they are told. It will not be long until your forty hour week is gone, and your two week vacation is gone and all of the other working conditions that the Unions have gotten for you, will be gone. The school class size is already going up, and this is just the beginning of what the teachers and students will loose. Every business in TN has the right to do as they please. I noticed where the businesses that were open on Christmas day did not pay time and a half. They cut their hours for the week so they would not work over 40 hours. With Unions, if you worked on a hoiliday, you would get time and a half and sometimes double time. Don't tell me the people of the great state of TN are the winners.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 3:14

pswindle, I thought TN had been a right to work state.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 3:15

I have to say that a large percentage of the electorate here have sh*t for brains.

By: bfra on 12/26/12 at 3:19

And I would agree with you Blanket!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 3:22

I have never seen a population so intent on voting against their own self interest. It never ceases to amaze me.

By: bfra on 12/26/12 at 3:28

Oh I know a lot of them that complain and then keep voting the same way, it doesn't make sense.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 3:31

bfra, some of it is lack of critical thinking skills. They may think something sounds good but they don't stop to think of the consequences or what implications a certain legislation will have for them.

By: Rasputin72 on 12/26/12 at 3:34

Blanketnazi.......I agree with you again! Not only do a large percentage of the electorate have sh#t for brains, they also have dirty collars and no dollars.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 3:42

Wages in right-to-work states are 3.2% lower than those in non-RTW states

The rate of employer-sponsored health insurance (ESI) is 2.6 percentage points lower in RTW states compared with non-RTW states

The rate of employer-sponsored pensions is 4.8 percentage points lower in RTW states

By: budlight on 12/26/12 at 3:52

bfra on 12/26/12 at 12:47
bud - Maybe if you used better English you could get & hold a job. As an employer, I never hired people that used bad English, or had a "smart" mouth.

When I want to, I can use the Queen's English; however, when I get down with "it" on this site, I try to conform to your level, bfra, which is quite low!

Blanket, I noticed that StarBucks was open along with many other companies on Thanksgiving and unlike Walmart there were no boycotts or walkouts. They were just glad to HAVE A JOB. My husband works over 40 hours and does not get time and a half. He's just grateful to HAVE A JOB.

I know a couple of illegals who didn't work yesterday or today at their $15 an hour job. They were too upset over the fact that their foodstamps were not high enough. By the way, they don't pay taxes for you libtards who think they do. But they get 10-Care, Food Stamps and other gov-ment issued benefits.

By the way, bfra, I have paid into social security since I was 18; that is 48 years. It was mandatory stup-wad, so therefore I expect to get a return on my money. That return is called Social Security Retirement. It is legal and moral to request what I was told by your democratic government that I would get. But as for you, be sure and donate all your money to some charity, cause you don't need it, now do ya?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 3:55

bud, Starbucks is much kinder to their employees than Walmart. Even part time employees at Starbucks get benefits and are better paid. That may be why they are happier.

By: Rasputin72 on 12/26/12 at 3:57

Blanketnazi.......Your data and I do not dispute that is clear evidence that people who are opposed to right to work states should immediately if not sooner move to one of the states that do not have a right to work law.

By the way, since you are handy with acquiring data it would be interesting to know what the unemployment rate is in the states that have RTW laws versus those states that do not have RTW laws.

This data could influence a faster defection from RTW states to those states that do have RTW laws.

If your findings are that the unemployment rate is higher in states without RTW laws then don't bother to post your findings.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 3:57

http://www.starbucks.com/career-center/working-at-starbucks

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 4:02

What's the matter, Junior? You're so desperate for attention - did Joy kick you to the curb and you are trying to find another free place to shack up?

By: bfra on 12/26/12 at 4:04

bud - According to your own comments, you have always been looking for a job or getting fired from a job, so your SS couldn't be much. Bud just going by your own comments, are you now saying you exaggerated?

Charity - I give to St. Jude's Hospital & the Shriners, because that goes for helping Children & the money goes for what it is intended.

By: budlight on 12/26/12 at 4:10

Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 3:55
bud, Starbucks is much kinder to their employees than Walmart. Even part time employees at Starbucks get benefits and are better paid. That may be why they are happier.

Yes and that is why I buy Starbucks by the lb. and grind my own beans -- to support their employees. And I have not purchased anything except one gift card for a friend who needed it from Walmart. I will not spend my money there. She was in rural NC and all they had was Walmart and Burger King.

I have worked in both RTW states and others that did not have RTW laws. I find that TN employers treat their employees fairly well. I have a friend who worked at Goodwill in their Career Solutions. The manager had her sign out for lunch but still made her work when she should have been allowed to just take her break. The manager, a haughty hispanic, subsequently fired the lady. Then when the lady filed for unemployment, the mgr. said she "quit" the job. The woman had 6 kids. Quit her job? Heck no. So she appealed and WON. Yipee. Then someone helped her file a claim for all her back wages for lunch time clock outs which her manager made her do. Guess what. SHE WON. Got the check just before Christmas. This is a habit with the GoodieGoodwill. They have lost a few of these cases. People are so stand up for their rights. And they should be able to without retaliation. But in a RTW state, there will be those who retaliate.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 4:11

Right to work does not improve the employment rate. In fact, eight of the 12 states with the highest unemployment have right-to-work laws.
www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 4:12

http://www.wrongforeveryone.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/rtwfactsheet.pdf

By: Rasputin72 on 12/26/12 at 4:24

Blanketnazi......This is great data you are providing. Anyone with the political make-up of yourself and the other five members of the "Simple Six" should be "out there" pumping up the Nashville population members of the 47%.

There is no reason for any of them to be in this state. They should be in states that are sympathetic to unions. Unfortunately if you were to have enough oomph to get off your duff and promote this idea I am afraid that your success rate would be rather small.

I am suspicious and apprehensive about members of the 47%. I don't think working is an agenda for some of them. I doubt that they care whether or not Tenn is a right to work state.

In any case your data could have influenced a few souls to leave this wretched state and city.

You are to be commended for exposing the this state as a state that does not agree with your politics.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 4:26

Why don't you get enough oomph to quit using women and defrauding people? Ray, you really are a disgrace and a laughing stock. You're a scumbag from The Nations with a more evolved vocabulary. Nothing more.

By: bfra on 12/26/12 at 4:30

Raspy - In any case your data could have influenced a few souls to leave this wretched state and city.
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If your opinion of the State & City are that low, why are you here? Oh, it does take "money" to leave, right?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/26/12 at 4:32

bfra, his free dinner ticket lives here. Of course he could live in Europe or some other place but he chooses this lowliest of all places.....I'll have to catch you offline sometime and give you the lowdown. It's hilarious. He's so full of it. He hasn't had much of an honest living since his paper route.

By: Rasputin72 on 12/26/12 at 4:37

Blanketnazi.......What is perceived is real. Every sociologist in the country has delved into this phenom of perception.

For example, I have a perception of you as an old bag with enough skeletons and life failures in your closet to fill a Santa Claus sleigh.

That may or may not be true, but that is the phenom of perception. The wonderment of the internet has allowed our lives to cross if only as a diversion.

In the meantime, I am signing off as a shower and a my wednesday fellowship at the club with people who don't have a clue or a care as to whether Blanketnazi exists in this world.

I would hope that I disappear from your world with the same intent.

By: bfra on 12/26/12 at 4:45

Blanket - What I have perceived from his very first comment on this board. He is good for a "laugh", nothing more.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/26/12 at 6:54

Raspy old boy, are you richer than Mitt Romney?

By: pswindle on 12/26/12 at 7:20

Most TN companies at one time had Unions, but you know what happened, TN Legislative Branch has worked to try and do away with the power of the Unions. The GOP failed in WI and Ohio, but MI passed and signed the bill in a closed sesion, but that will be restored as soon as the dems get in control. Without Unions, the businesses could treat and pay their workers as they please. The Unions created the Middle Class with living wages. This is the reason that rich pople want to do away with the Unions, and create a two class system of people (rich and poor) They went after the teacher's union because they were the weaker union because they are mostly women. In TN, the white man is still the king, and the churches go along with the men who want to keep thier women weak so they can do as they please. Until the women stand up in TN, they wil be at the mercy of most men. In most states the women have fought back and won. Even in red Mississippi, the women fought and won the obortion issue. Did you notice that Beth Harwell said that she was not ready to change the gun laws? What will it take Beth?

By: yogiman on 12/26/12 at 8:46

You should learn to write properly and spell correctly to criticize anyone else for sentencing errors, bfra. You should be justified to criticize.

By: budlight on 12/27/12 at 8:26

Until the women stand up in TN, they wil be at the mercy of most men. In most states the women have fought back and won. Even in red Mississippi, the women fought and won the obortion issue. Did you notice that Beth Harwell said that she was not ready to change the gun laws?

Pswindle, all the women I know are strong and can hold their own. What part of the universe are you dwelling in?

How is it "winning" to be able to kill innocent unborn children who did not ask to be conceived to start with? Women who have sex and accidentally pregnant are loosers, not winners. They are ignorant as to what "makes babies" and so they accidentally make one and kill it. LOOZERS!