Up for Debate: Judge halts Occupy arrests

Monday, October 31, 2011 at 11:59pm

As a federal judge Monday granted a temporary restraining order stopping the more than 50 arrests of Occupy Nashville protesters on Legislative Plaza, is it surprising to learn the state offered no opposition the motion in court?

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By: yogiman on 10/31/11 at 11:20

No surprise. Federal judges assume power over governors on a daily basis. The federal judge obviously has power over the governor which makes me wonder why we need a governor sitting in a rocking chair in the Governor's mansion. Let the judge make the decisions. Why pay both of them?

The 17th Amendment needs to be repealed to give the states their State's rights back.

By: dargent7 on 11/1/11 at 4:18

Well, on the news this am, most banks have dropped the check card fee, ($5.00 a month) and will refund the prior months fees.
So, "we, the people" raising up, expressing outrage and making demands, can have an affect.

By: govskeptic on 11/1/11 at 5:47

The state AG throws in the towel and left Judge Trauber with only the plaintiff's
complaint in front of her to decide on! No surprise in this action, bad press
may lead to someone not liking someone, can't have that! At some point
this movement has got to define their wishes/demands more specifically.

By: serr8d on 11/1/11 at 6:13

Here's a long article exploring the 'reasons' for the Owwie's 'uprising'. Well worth your reading time, if you've the intellectual chops to understand it.

The people at the We Are the 99% blog didn't choose this; they expected something different. They didn't see it coming. Yes, yes, maybe they were naive about the possibilities of a fulfilling and secure life in the field of non-profit environmental management. Probably they should not have sunk tens of thousands of dollars into acquiring a BFA. But these mistakes didn't usually used to be crippling. They were a drag, as you paid off those huge student loans with your tiny little income. (Ramen and cheese doodle surprise again? Yummmmmm . . . )

Unfortunately their choices became utterly, horrifyingly disastrous just at the moment when we had a terrible financial crisis that spiked our unemployment rate up to 10%. We can argue about exactly who is at fault and to what extent, and how much longer our public sector spending would have been sustainable without the financial crisis. But whether or not you think their reaction is empirically correct, it certainly isn't surprising. To them it looks like a bunch of greedy, stupid bankers stole the jobs that they were entitled to. And why the hell do a bunch of thieves get to drive around in BMWs while I take the bus?


By: dargent7 on 11/1/11 at 6:29

It was also reported the Fannie and Fredie executives, 10, shared $31.5 million in bonuses.
They performed "well" was the co. statement.
After needing a $170. billion bailout.
A shiney new BMW anyone?

By: serr8d on 11/1/11 at 6:38

So, what defines these Owwies? in a nutshell: kids who spent too much for their college degrees on esoteric and unmarketable 'skills'; being upscale, they eschew the 'trades' as being beneath their 'class', and resent those who've 'made it' to where they 'should be'.

They don't want to work at steenking Wal-Mart or in plumbing or at changing tires at Firestone or pushing a broom at the old DuPont plant; they want to work for Government at the very least, to maintain their expected levels of 'class'. All that other stuff, that's work for the illegals, and for NASCAR fans after all; that's why they've support 'open borders'. Truly, physical work is work that they despise and won't do, being beneath their expected level of status.

Since the downturn, and with the ever-swelling population, such 'elite' opportunities are not forthcoming. So they've taken to the streets, with predictable results: their little 'communities' are becoming as nassty third-world slums sans the diseases: the crime rates are skyrocketing, with thefts, rapes, and prevalent drug usage. These kids are tolerated because they do know how to get help from their parents and supporters who are also, mostly, elitist Leftists.

Show me where the NASCAR contingent is amongst these Owwies.

Would you see these Owwies tolerated if they were of the standard 'homeless' class, members of society's unwanted? Would (or did) Nashville tolerate a homeless camp set up on Legislative Plaza? Of course not. They would've been swept away as quickly as Richmond swept away their OWS vagrants couple days ago; with arrests and bulldozers.

These kids are well-connected, and have just enough smarts to game the system.

For now.

This won't end well, mark my words.

By: dargent7 on 11/1/11 at 6:57

s/h/b $ 13.5 million among ten executives....

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 7:06

Gas Bag one and two have started their song and dancer addiction of blaming the left for
The rights lack of understanding the law.

Dance on serr8d and yogiman. Entertain us some more today.

By: serr8d on 11/1/11 at 7:15

Nemo, your comments *always* lack any intellectual heft and contain no meaty substances whatsoever; there's no real justification for anyone to respond to anything you post, except perhaps as an exercise in 'slap-a-troll'.

Why don't you go and mull your way through the McArdle article I linked above, then, at around noon, after you've gotten through it, come back with a cogent and timely remark.

I'll wait.


By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 7:17

The other day poor old serr8d was calling the 99% old hippies. Now he calls them "So, what defines these Owwies? in a nutshell: kids who spent too much for their college degrees on esoteric and unmarketable 'skills'....

Which is it serr8d?

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 7:21

Keep on singing serr8d, my boy.

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 7:25


The banks back down. That is a win for the people.

By: BenDover on 11/1/11 at 7:43

I think I'll print up some flyers for the homeless down on Lower Broad. They can take the Blue Circuit for free and jump off a block away from War Memorial. Then when the 5th generation hippies order pizza on daddy's credit card they can learn about the 'to each according to his needs' part of this rancid movement.

By: BenDover on 11/1/11 at 7:47

I'll explain that the cops can't roust them from that location and then the movement will really explode. Win/win.

By: BenDover on 11/1/11 at 7:53

Join in the Protest!!! Take the Blue Circuit for FREE and ride up to War Memorial Park where you can join in with other like minded people in protesting the unfairness of society! Preppy College Kids will pay you with their parents money to sleep in their tents so that the thermal imaging doesn't reveal their trips to mom's basement for a pantry raid and Play Station Fix.

Power to the People!

By: serr8d on 11/1/11 at 7:54

Which is it serr8d?

Curiously enough, you stumbled on a decent question.

The Owwies haven't studied much history. They recall the protests of the '60's of course; the stumblebums and hippies with their tie-dyed shirts and long hair and free sex and drugs; their marches (mostly) on college campuses, with the occasional stroll down Main Street. But, mostly, college kids who didn't want to go to Vietnam, and couldn't wrangle a trip to Canada or another way to dodge the draft. A bit farther back, the civil rights marches; those were of much higher class, usually with no free drugs and sex in the streets.

So, these new-wave protest marches are de rigueur, and based on the 'old hippie' theories and practices, with the addition of tents and the stupidish 'General Assemblies' with the freaky 'up and down' twinkles and the 'human microphone' nonsense. Of course, lots of 'old hippies', harking back to their youth, are drawn to these sessions like moths to bong flames (howdy, Loner!).

But it's a wannabe-higher-class of people than the standard '60's and '70's hippies, even if they still do all-together-now stink to high heaven.

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 8:06

@ serr8d So you have been down there causing trouble. Got close enough to smell them? Did you stand out in the “mob” with your perfumed arrogant?

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 8:14

Any more post coming from serr8d will be on his employer’s time.

By: dargent7 on 11/1/11 at 8:16

"The People", are descending to the French Riviera ( not Geraldo) to protest the G-20 Summit.
So, "people" like to protest worldwide.
I hear Greece is a nightmare.
London was burning down last month.
Remind me to cancel my vacation to Athens.
And if Ohio State beats Michigan, stay away from the Detroit area.

By: serr8d on 11/1/11 at 8:21

Is this the first one?

(AP) OKLAHOMA CITY — Police say a man has been found dead inside his tent at a protest at a park in downtown Oklahoma City.

Police Lt. Kevin Barnes says the death isn't considered suspicious, but authorities have not determined how the man died. Barnes says someone called 911 about 2:40 p.m. Monday after he was found dead inside his tent at Kerr Park.

Protesters have been camped for several weeks at the park as part of an Occupy OKC event coordinated with similar Wall Street protests around the country.

Fellow protest participant Mark Faulk says the man was in his early 30s and was homeless. Faulk says the man had delivered a passionate speech Sunday night about the problems of homelessness and drug abuse.



By: jvh2b on 11/1/11 at 8:23

Yogi - go take your meds - you are even crazier than usual this morning. Of course a Federal judge can over rule the Governor - ESPECIALLY when the Governor makes an UNCONSTITUTIONAL mandate against the FEDERAL constitution, which we as states are bound by! You claim you do nothing but want to uphold the constitution, but yet when the most basic principle of it comes about you show exactly how ignorant you are on the issue.

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 8:24

I know dargent. I am looking forward to that win. LOL

By: serr8d on 11/1/11 at 8:30

What'd I tell you? BWAHAHHHAHAA~!

Occupy ‘ball’ street

It’s the Autumn of Love!

Occupy Wall Street protesters are flocking to nearby health clinics for STD and HIV testing after getting their freak on in ’60s-style hookups with crusty strangers, sources told The Post yesterday.

“Last week was free love,” said a medical professional at a clinic located a short walk from Zuccotti Park, referring to the number of people who organizers have referred for sexually transmitted disease testing.

A volunteer at the park admitted concern among protesters about STDs.

“We give directions to clinics if people ask for information regarding STDs,” said the volunteer, who identified himself only as “Captain” and added that pregnancy tests are also a hot item.


By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 8:30

On Company time serr8d. What good work ethics you’ve got. But be ever so careful or you could lose your job and be on the streets. Wait…what am I saying? You live in your parent’s basement.

By: serr8d on 11/1/11 at 8:39

Richmond has smarter mayors and governators than does Tennessee, because their laws forbidding camping in public parks and plazas were already on the books, and far-Left Federal District Judges like Aleta Trauger (who was, incidentally, appointed by dirty cigar-sucking socialist William Jefferson Clinton) couldn't interfere..

RICHMOND, VA (WTVR-TV) - Police cleared out the public park in downtown Richmond where members of Occupy Richmond were camped since October 15.

At 1 a.m., Halloween morning, police on foot and on horseback told Occupy Richmond demonstrators to leave Kanawha Plaza. Demonstrators think it was an early morning trick they were treated to.

Less than an hour later police went into the park and arrested a handful of people who refused to leave.

Gene Lepley, spokesperson for the Richmond Police Department said that nine arrests were made, and five of those have received summons. Four were taken into custody.

Bulldozers were deployed to scoop up the assorted tents, signs, and debris left behind into dump trucks.The operation took more than four hours.

After that work was completed, Kanawha Plaza was closed off with fences.

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 8:43

Isn’t The NY Post one of Murdock’s papers? I’m sure that they got all of the facts straight. Snicker Snicker.

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 8:45

Still on company time serr8d?

By: serr8d on 11/1/11 at 8:48

If these mayors and governators were smart, they'd go right over Aleta's pointy head to a better-qualified federal judge. Aleta is a Vandy gal (graduated in '72) and worked a stint as Bredesen's chief of staff, '91-'92.

I'll bet she's a dirty socialist at heart; with consideration of the law secondary to her ideologies.

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 8:52

The more the right is wrong about anything the more the start with flashing the spotlight in another direction. At the moment serr8d is spotlighting his egotistical self for distraction. LOL

By: brrrrk on 11/1/11 at 8:58

serr8d, the paid troll, raises up....

By: dargent7 on 11/1/11 at 8:59

What the Police, mayors, Govenors are doing in Nashville and America is nothing compared to the steps Frace is taking for the G-20.
Helicopters overhead, riot Police, and a submarine off-shore.
There wasn't a sub in the Cumberland, was there?

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 9:02

The only sub in Nashville is the ones that serr8d suck on. lol

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 9:07

Memo; Tea Party Head Quarters

Nov 1st

Dec 21st 2012 will be declared National serr8d Blow Hard Fest.

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 9:10

At this moment serr8d is e-mailing the web master to cry about how we are picking on him.

By: serr8d on 11/1/11 at 9:16

Heh. Nemo, a fool like you can't dent me. So, carry on wit yo' witless dimwittery~!

By: serr8d on 11/1/11 at 9:21

Oh, and this, on the Occupy Toronto peoples...

‘Occupy the Vatican’ postpones disruption of Sunday morning downtown mass

A faction of Occupy Vancouver protesters stopped short of a planned disruption of mass at the Holy Rosary Cathedral in downtown Vancouver on Sunday morning due to a police presence outside of the church.

But the offshoot group of the anti-corporate protest -- calling themselves the “Occupy the Vatican” movement -- later decided they will march on the cathedral Sunday afternoon.

Protester Bluesky Wolfman, speaking in lieu of march organizer Kevin Annett, said the motion to bring attention to thousands of residential school survivors was postponed due to a “heavy police presence” at the Vancouver Art Gallery and the cathedral.

Worshippers at the church breathed out a sigh of relief as they streamed out of the front doors of the cathedral following Sunday morning mass.

“It’s a sense of very good relief -- we believe it came from heaven that (the protesters) didn’t come,” said Alvaro Da Costa-Varela, a member of the downtown parish for over 25 years and former Canadian Army veteran standing on guard outside of the cathedral alongside a handful of Vancouver Police officers.

Da Costa-Varela, also a member of the Catholic-sponsored Knights of Columbus, said Vancouver Archbishop J. Michael Miler requested extra police protection at the church, and “brothers” from other Knights of Columbus counsels across B.C. and the Yukon are present in case a march does go ahead in the afternoon.

“We took the threat very serious ... the Knights of Columbus’ duty is to protect our Church, our Pope, our Clergy, and make sure everyone leaves in peace,” he said.


Real classy, these 'Occupy' sorts. Just another bit of proof that they are neo-Marxists, atheists, and radicals.

Just like our President.

By: yogiman on 11/1/11 at 9:28

Doesn't it tell any of you "experts" enough to make you wonder why this "O" 'program today is a nation wide event? Or are they all thinking alike, like you?

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 9:29

By: serr8d on 11/1/11 at 10:16
Heh. Nemo, a fool like you can't dent me. So, carry on wit yo' witless dimwittery~!

And yet he has to let me know that I don’t concern him in his little angry outburst.

By: BenDover on 11/1/11 at 9:40

There is a law on the books that they have to get a permit, serr... the Judge ignored it.

Vagrancy is no longer a crime in Tennessee evidently.

By: jvh2b on 11/1/11 at 9:51

Oh horses!#t Ben

Vagrancy isn't a crime if it's a political protest - never has been and never will be.

Granted, this creates issues if/when a homeless person puts a sign around his neck saying he's protesting something or another, but for God's sake, OWS can show it's a politial protest, some bum hanging around has a much harder time of that.

By: BenDover on 11/1/11 at 9:53

I would think a political protest would need a coherent message.

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 9:58

Where is the coherant message with the Tea Party Ben?

By: BenDover on 11/1/11 at 10:01

Well it started against the Obamacare debacle but it now takes on government excess of every kind, Nemo.

Here's a list of OWS supporters.


By: dargent7 on 11/1/11 at 10:02

So, all the G-20 protestors are "vagrants"?
There will be 10,000 of them.

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 10:05

Ben as I remember the Tea Party had people with Nazi signs, when it first started. However that was not all there was to the TP’s.

By: jvh2b on 11/1/11 at 10:07

So the stance of 1% is exerting undue monetary influence over Congress over the remaining 99% and we're sick of the corruption/back scratching isn't clear enough for you to see?

Might wanna get those cataracts checked out...

By: BenDover on 11/1/11 at 10:08

Pelosi claimed that Nemo but it wasn't true.

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/11 at 10:09

Plus the Tea Party has yogi and serr8d. If I was to go by these two…may I say examples, then the Tea Party are classic nuts.

By: govskeptic on 11/1/11 at 10:11

Greece: Did most of us know that Greece has a population
only slightly larger than NJ? How in hell did they so overspend
to be threatening the entire financial system of the Euro countries?

By: BenDover on 11/1/11 at 10:12

whatever, jvh... all I've seen is a bunch of kids who took on huge student loans to get worthless degrees and now don't want to have to pay it all back.

If it truly about cronyism they wouldn't consider Sara Palin the anti-christ and would all be walking around with copies of Atlas Shrugged.

unfortunately it's more just a bunch of 'Hey you greedy sonofabitches... give me your money!'...