Up for Debate: Judge says mosque can open

Thursday, July 19, 2012 at 2:28am

What do you make of the lawsuits filed by both the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro and the U.S. Attorney's Office Wednesday as well as a judge's subsequent ruling that the mosque can open for Ramadan? What do you think the next move for Rutherford County government is, or should be?

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168 Comments on this post:

By: gdiafante on 7/19/12 at 7:16

I'll qualify my 8:08 post. IF someone or some thing proposed to change existing laws to become more compatible with Sharia law, we have checks and balances.

It would likely have to start on the local level. Then it would have to survive court challenges, appeals and state scrutiny. Then, if it somehow survived those challenges, it would then be challenged at a Federal level. Due to the nature of the issue, it would end up all the way to the Supreme Court. If it survived that, Congress could then establish a constitutional amendment negating the court's decision, which has to be ratified.

So, even if a President were trying to promote a Muslim agenda, there are too many checks and balances that exist in this system.

By: parnell3rd on 7/19/12 at 7:17

Here is a preview of David Letterman's top 10 list of "information Obama has not released.
10. State senate papers. In 2008 Obama critizied Hilary for not releasing her papers from 8 years as 1st lady. Then Obama failed to release his state senate papers from his 8 years in state office.
9. Academic trasnscripts. He won't release them.
8. Book Proposal's. Obama's agent claimed for 16 years that BHO was born in Kenya.
7. Medical records. In 2008 BHO called for McCain to release his medical records, he did, all of them. BHO released one page. Even though he confesses to being a drug addict.
6. Small dollar donars. McCain released all info on donors under $200 BHO refused to release info.
5. Khalidi tape. Tape of BHO haging out with radical islamist in 2003.
4. The real white house guest list.
3. Thousands of Fredoom of Information act request denined by BHO
2. He promised transparency and to put health care debates on c-span. Instead another lie.
1. Fast and Furious documents. The documents recieved had all been redacted ie blacke out.

By: gdiafante on 7/19/12 at 7:18

Yogi, I was raised a Baptist. I rejected that ideology completely, therefore I'm not a Baptist. See how that works?

By: BigPapa on 7/19/12 at 7:18

People in Mboro need to get a grip. I know you moved to the boro to avoid any hint of diversity, but when you get to a certain size, diversity comes to you.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/19/12 at 7:20

In the word of a fool;

By: yogiman on 7/19/12 at 8:14
gdiafarte,

If Obama isn't a Muslim, why did he say he was in an interview with George Stephanopalous? He admitted it when he thanked John McCain for not mentioning it.

Because he was grateful that McCain was not a absolute idiot.

By: gdiafante on 7/19/12 at 7:22

There's something hysterical about opponents of Obama. Notice how they focus on the irrational. Honestly, all they need to do is focus on his record as President and they would provide a decent argument against re-election. Instead, they seem to focus on conspiracy theories and complete craziness. They end up portraying themselves as nuts, which could, ironically, get Obama re-elected.

Strange how that works.

By: yogiman on 7/19/12 at 7:27

gdiafarte,

I've never known of a Baptist that endorsed killing you if you wasn't a Baptist of the Christian faith.

Do you know of any Muslim that doesn't endorse killing you if you aren't a Muslim of the Islam faith?

By: gdiafante on 7/19/12 at 7:30

Yogi, the reason I rejected them is because a pastor actually said that people are justified in hitting/beating homosexuals. I walked out of the church immediately.

Don't give me the BS that they don't promote hate or violence.

Yes, I have a friend that is Muslim and he rejects extremism. Anything else?

By: global_citizen on 7/19/12 at 7:32

Yogiman:

In June 2007 [then] Presidential candidate Barack Obama declared that the USA was "no longer a Christian nation".

This year "President" Obama canceled the 21st annual National Day of Prayer at the White House under the ruse of "not wanting to offend anyone."

I can always tell who gets their "facts" from those annoying emails friends and family forward endlessly with the most inflammatory charges, and the admonishment to "forward this to everyone you know".

If people bothered to do any real fact checking our nation wouldn't be nearly as divided as it is. But gullible people are the bread and butter of opportunistic partisans.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/prayerday.asp
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/obama-and-the-christian-nation-quote/

By: gdiafante on 7/19/12 at 7:36

Global, I predict that factchecker is ok to debunk Romney's outsourcing but not Obama and the Christian nation quote...lol

By: Captain Nemo on 7/19/12 at 7:37

By: yogiman on 7/19/12 at 8:14

When you consider in 1996 Obama joined the Socialist Revolution Party, wouldn't you think he was a socialist?

We see how this moron can bring two opposite and say they are the same.

Muslim believes in a God.

Communist are atheist.

The two can not be in one person, unless it is in the mind of a moron.

By: yogiman on 7/19/12 at 7:50

Apparently we don't disagree on everything, gdiafarte. "Fastchecker" and "Snopes" are like twins in their postings of Obama. All positive. None negative.

By: gdiafante on 7/19/12 at 7:53

Except...factchecker debunked Obama's assertion of Romney being in charge of Bain from 1999-2002...

The only thing yogi gets right is his name...lol

By: slacker on 7/19/12 at 8:01

The rumor of having to dip your finger in purple ink after voting, has been debunked by fact-checker.

By: yogiman on 7/19/12 at 8:03

I heard it was the middle finger of your left hand, slacker.

By: slacker on 7/19/12 at 8:08

yogi.. the middle finger of everyones hand, points at you daily.
Take your lithium, and a nap.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/19/12 at 8:10

By: yogiman on 7/19/12 at 9:03
I heard it was the middle finger of your left hand, slacker.

That is not a purple finger you have yogi, it is brown.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/19/12 at 8:11

Do you think think that might be too much for him to understand?

By: yogiman on 7/19/12 at 8:12

More rumor that heard on tv news: Why did Barack Obama make the statement, "so what? I'm not running for the [president's] office", when Alan Keyes questioned his eligibility to run for office in the Illinois State Senate?

Just wondering: What did he mean by that remark?

By: Captain Nemo on 7/19/12 at 8:16

By: yogiman on 7/19/12 at 8:50
Apparently we don't disagree on everything, gdiafarte. "Fastchecker" and "Snopes" are like twins in their postings of Obama. All positive. None negative.

Decoded; if it doesn’t come from the crap I read, then I want believe it. So there!

By: slacker on 7/19/12 at 8:16

I think his last post just answered your question Nemo.

By: gdiafante on 7/19/12 at 8:20

Alexander Hamilton once was reported to say "oh nuts" when he stubbed his toe.

I wonder what he meant by that? Was he proposing the government takeover the nut industry?

By: Captain Nemo on 7/19/12 at 8:24

I find if amazing, that yogi can type with both his middle fingers up his ass and still manage to post. But then again he does write crap.

By: slacker on 7/19/12 at 8:27

no..no.. gdiafante, I said the same thing when hit in the groin area by a golf ball.

By: slacker on 7/19/12 at 8:30

Besides.. yogi has a stranglehold on the nut industry.

By: BenDover on 7/19/12 at 8:31

Islam is a political movement that seeks to dominate and enslave the West using our freedoms and protections as a primary weapon. Wrapping a 'Religion of Peace' bow around it doesn't change anything.

When Merkel and Sarcozy and Cameron all say unchecked multi-culturalism was an unmitigated failure they are referring to Islam washing over Western Europe like a plague using lax immigration standards, democratic influence, and out breeding the indigenous populations by a factor of about 4 to 1.

These people do no wish to adapt to our culture they seek to replace it in a world-wide caliphate using any means at their disposal, from religiously sanctioned deceptions all the way up to armed Jihad.

Conflating this 'religion' with Christianity, a religion socially consistent with Western values, is ignorant on face and moronic in practice.

By: gdiafante on 7/19/12 at 8:34

Conflating this 'religion' with Christianity, a religion socially consistent with Western values, is ignorant on face and moronic in practice.

Yeah, the list of people in the West who have practiced Islam in peace and adapted to our culture is...well...

Numerous.

Are you afraid of the dark too?

By: Beernazi on 7/19/12 at 8:34

This discussion proves the value of a truly secular government.

By: Beernazi on 7/19/12 at 8:38

Here is a link showing a brief history of Muslims in what later became the United States:
http://www.islam101.com/history/muslim_us_hist.html

By: Captain Nemo on 7/19/12 at 8:39

Christianity a political movement that seeks to dominate and enslave the West using our freedoms and protections as a primary weapon. Wrapping a 'Religion of Peace' bow around it doesn't change anything.

By: gdiafante on 7/19/12 at 8:40

It seems what is good for the goose isn't good for the gander. The spread of Christianity was quite violent and destructive. Now that Christianity is not spreading as fast as Islam, Christians feel threatened.

Why the fear? According to Christian doctrine, the outcome has already been determined. Do you not have faith? Why do you not embrace the end times...this facilitates your reunion with God.

For the rest of us, as Loner would say...holy wars suck.

By: Beernazi on 7/19/12 at 8:42

g, you've pretty much hit the nail on the head.

By: BenDover on 7/19/12 at 8:44

You guys are speaking from your emotions and don't know what you are talking about this time.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/19/12 at 8:44

Good morning Blanket and thanks for the link.

I enjoyed you whipping up on yogi yesterday. It was fun to watch.

By: yogiman on 7/19/12 at 8:47

gdiafarte,

I'm afraid you, and your fellow posters, are going to find out too quick before you can begin to think.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/19/12 at 8:47

Often when Ben makes a point, it seem to come back and bit him on the (not being vulgar) on the backside.

That is ass for you yogi. LOL

By: Beernazi on 7/19/12 at 8:47

LOL, Nemo! Good morning to you as well!

By: Captain Nemo on 7/19/12 at 8:48

That post sounded very emotional to me Ben.

By: BenDover on 7/19/12 at 8:50

http://tinyurl.com/AndrewMcCarthyIslam

By: Captain Nemo on 7/19/12 at 8:50

By: yogiman on 7/19/12 at 9:47
gdiafarte,

I'm afraid you, and your fellow posters, are going to find out too quick before you can begin to think.

Translation; make up something nonsensical.

By: slacker on 7/19/12 at 8:53

I don't think in the long run.. any religion will matter. This country is screwed. You can't put the entitlement Genie back in the bottle. In 20 years the US will have open borders, and look like a Mel Gibson movie.

By: BenDover on 7/19/12 at 9:00

Opening the border with Mexico via guest worker is probably our best hope.

By: slacker on 7/19/12 at 9:05

I agree Ben, let the Catholics sort it out. I'll be dead, but I plan on being reincarnated as the ''Pope.''

By: gdiafante on 7/19/12 at 9:06

Well, how do you reverse an entire generational attitude towards entitlement? And I'm not limiting that to just the 99%, I'd say it's 100%. Everybody wants something.

By: bfra on 7/19/12 at 9:07

Mexicans can get guest worker passes now. So how much more open do you think the border should be?

By: Captain Nemo on 7/19/12 at 9:07

Ben what will become of all the babies born north of the boarder? This will drive yogi deeper into nut-dom.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/19/12 at 9:09

Pope slackeness the 1st. It has a nice ring to it.

By: gdiafante on 7/19/12 at 9:14

Ah, let Mexico have the U.S. We can all go to Canada, they're doing pretty well...and there's hockey...

By: slacker on 7/19/12 at 9:15

I'll shake things up Nemo. No more robes, and that smoking pot thing on a chain has gotta go. What the hell's that about anyway?

By: BenDover on 7/19/12 at 9:16

I think it should be easier to do right than it is to do wrong, bfra. That way we can concentrate our boarder resources on a much smaller number of people trying to subvert a more reasonable system.