Up for Debate: Judge says mosque can open

Thursday, July 19, 2012 at 2:28am

What do you make of the lawsuits filed by both the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro and the U.S. Attorney's Office Wednesday as well as a judge's subsequent ruling that the mosque can open for Ramadan? What do you think the next move for Rutherford County government is, or should be?

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168 Comments on this post:

By: slacker on 7/19/12 at 12:03

Good choice gdiafante. While you were in the Marines, a Mexican took your roofing position.

By: gdiafante on 7/19/12 at 12:08

You're talking about NAFTA, yogi. The "NA" stands for North American...and while critics of NAFTA have cited that it has increased wage inequality and globalized the American economy, it doesn't take into account emerging countries like China and India, or the skyrocketing price of energy.

By the way, Obama campaigned on altering NAFTA some, then didn't.

By: brrrrk on 7/19/12 at 12:13

yogiman said

"Didn't that cheap labor effect start under Bill Clinton?"

Nice try yogi.... while your attempt to hang this on Democrats is admirable, and yes it was Clinton who contributed to this mess by signing NAFTA (which Republicans encouraged), the fact is that our trade issues go back much further..... at least as far back as Nixon.

By: gdiafante on 7/19/12 at 12:17

I think it would be more accurate to say that 40-50 years of really poor policy choices have resulted in our current mess. You can't really pin it on one President or one party, as much as yogi would like to do so.

It's been a failure of leadership in every sense of the word.

By: brrrrk on 7/19/12 at 12:50

gdiafante said

"I think it would be more accurate to say that 40-50 years of really poor policy choices have resulted in our current mess. You can't really pin it on one President or one party, as much as yogi would like to do so.

It's been a failure of leadership in every sense of the word."

I would agree. Even Carter bought into the world wide free market mumbo jumbo, though not to the extent of all those that followed. Until we get back to the notion that "protecting" our domestic industries is good for the country from both an economic and security perspective, we'll continue to have problems. And to not do that while other countries do is just plain stupid.

By: BigPapa on 7/19/12 at 1:05

Some where along the line we chased away many of the jobs that waited for the working & middle class. NAFTA, unreasonable Labor Unions, greedy corporations,.. whatever boogie man you want to blame is fine- the fact is that this is a glaring hole in our society- not just out economy.
I say a glaring hole in our society because kids in HS don't even have the option or idea that they could work some where and advanceup the line to middle management, foreman, etc. make a living wage, raise a family. Earning a HS diploma becomes worthless, and if it's worthless why even bother? That creates a nihilistic approach to life for a certain segment of society and it threatens us all.

By: yogiman on 7/19/12 at 1:07

I think you can make that 50-60 years ago, gdiafarte. The presidents have been working toward one world government since the beginning of the UN.

Congress has become a career opportunity for most who can buy their way into Congress. Then they found out they could set their own rules separate from the common citizens. After all, they aren't common citizens when they start their own business (buying a seat in Congress).

There's quite a few in congress today that doesn't even live in the state they're supposed to be representing.

By: gdiafante on 7/19/12 at 1:10

A bachelors degree is the new high school diploma, papa. Kids are finding out that you go tens of thousands of dollars in debt just to get an entry level job that pays poverty level wages.

Why even bother indeed.

By: Beernazi on 7/19/12 at 1:47

Well, if you can make it through high school without grasping basic grammar rules, I suppose a high school diploma would be worthless.

btw...."There's quite a few in congress today that doesn't even live" sould be "There's quite a few in congress today that DON'T even live."


By: seeworthy on 7/19/12 at 2:27

For Beernazi - a petition worth signing (to get "citizens united" overturned):


By: Beernazi on 7/19/12 at 2:34

Thank you, seeworthy!

By: yogiman on 7/19/12 at 2:55

I believe "don't" is considered equal to "do not" and "does not", Beernazi. It depends on who you're talking to and how sensitive their ears are.

By: Beernazi on 7/19/12 at 2:58

yogi, it has to do with plural vs. singular. "Don't" is a conjunction of "do not." "Doesn't" is a conjunction of "does not." Are you seriously that clueless?

By: Beernazi on 7/19/12 at 2:59


By: yogiman on 7/19/12 at 4:08


It has been almost three quarters of a century since I graduated from high school. And at my age, the least of my worries are possible errors in an English sentence I write. I feel I have a lot more to worry about than a sentencing error.

And comparing my wording in my sentences on this site to other posters, I get a strong feeling you are "specializing" in finding errors on me. Why? Because I see many errors others make and no comment is made of their error. And by the way, you should know many errors are a matter of opinion. That is unless you're still in school.

Again, why? Because I am so adamant on my objection to Barack Obama's (if that's his legal name) usurpation of the highest office in this nation.

Apparently so many of you don't know the power he has to destroy this nation. And believe me, that's his intention. You should look his background up. He can't hide it all.

I took an oath when I went in service and I intend to keep my love for this nation ahead of my fear of an error being found in one of my sentences because if Barry Soetoro wins, it won't make no difference.

By: budlight on 7/19/12 at 6:05

slacker on 7/19/12 at 11:48
nazi, the Opryland hotel brought them in before 9/11. They couldn't find cheap labor, after opening the hotel. They boarded them in a motel on Murfreesboro Rd. That started it in Nashville.

Slacker this is true in part. You left out the part where they just stayed here for 11 months and then had to return to their home country. If they had no bad marks against them, they could come back. I know this because I had a friend who did that with her boyfriend. They married in the U.S. Then he got in trouble on the job in Opryland when a guy flirted with her. So her husband had to go back to the home country and could not come back. Then he sneaked back in and ultimately got arrested.

I'm not sure what they ae doing now. My guess is he is still in jail and she's in their home country - working for peanuts!

By: yogiman on 7/19/12 at 7:43

Working for peanuts is better than going hungry, budlight. You commented you thought he was in jail and she was in their home country.

Is their home country the US or Mexico? If your friend was an American citizen, unless she's given up her citizenship she could "come home" and live near the jail he might be in and visit him more.

By: dargent7 on 7/20/12 at 5:32

Now just wait a gall darn minute.... A BA or BS degree from a 4 year University, that had 125 credit hours to achieve it, is worth every penny.
These "On-Line" schools (all the pop-ups on pages like this one) that promise, "a degree in 18 months working at your computer " are a joke.
"Get a MBA in 18 months...."
Granted, when I got mine in 1980 and moved to CA, then HI, then returned in 3 years all employers laughed. They thought living in San Francisco and Honolulu was "an escape".
They wanted "real work experience", not "real world experience".
Even today, 30 years later, my degree is kinda a joke. But, it's on my resume and does mean something v. Highest Level of Education: "A H.S. diploma" or "GED".