Up for Debate: Limos, taxis face fare fight

Tuesday, April 17, 2012 at 12:17am

Do you think it's fair that the Metro Transportation Licensing Commission requires budget limo companies to charge a minimum $45 fare? What do you feel would be the best way to handle fares between the different companies so that the consumer wins and the businesses are on equal ground?

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By: Loner on 4/17/12 at 4:39

Good morning, Nashville.

From what I have been able to glean from these NCP sarticles, the entire taxi-limo business is corrupt...rotten from the head, down to the tail...throw it in the garbage and start all over again...that's my sage advice this fine morning....take it, or shove it.

By: dargent7 on 4/17/12 at 5:02

I wish this paper would run, "Letters to the Editor".
America's got the Secret Service sex scandal, GSA lavish resort scandal, Ann Romney, "Stay at home Mom's" deal.
Who cares about this topic?

By: gdiafante on 4/17/12 at 5:10

We can change the topic, darge. We do it all the time. For instance, I can't wait to see the Wings lose tonight. Any bets that a catfish makes its Detroit debut?

By: BenDover on 4/17/12 at 5:22

"I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas" Hillary Clinton

By: Captain Nemo on 4/17/12 at 5:38

I don't know much about this topic, but the cab drivers are some of the worse drivers in town.

By: Loner on 4/17/12 at 5:43

I expect that someone will throw a coonskin cap onto the rink....if not, why not?

By: dargent7 on 4/17/12 at 5:47

Ok, I'll bet one octopus to your catfish, and call.
If the Preds win tonight in Detroit, they are that good.
But I don't see any catfish on the ice. Tennesseans couldn't find Michigan with a GPS and two hands.
Once past Kentucky, the locals turn back thinking the, "No Sodomy" signs refer to them.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/17/12 at 5:48

As far as Ann Romney being a stay at home mom that is a tough job. However I would not say that she is an average mom.

The Secret Service Scandel is a disgrace and if true heads should roll.

GSA is another subject and if true heads should roll.

Go Preds!!

By: Loner on 4/17/12 at 5:49

Do we want to go to another topic? One with violence, politics, guns and religion? Here's an outrageous story...one that won't get much airtime or column inches in the USA...you have to go to the Israel media to get a less "screened" version of what is going on there...check it out:

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/video-senior-idf-officer-beats-pro-palestinian-activist-with-rifle-1.424454

Naturally, I left a comment on that board...it's still up...but Haaretz often deletes my comments...or ban them outright....I am surprised that they let that comment go through.

By: gdiafante on 4/17/12 at 5:49

Darge, they are that good, even if they don't win tonight. Hell, they've only really played one good game so far and are leading 2-1. Lucky for Detroit our PP is sucking, otherwise we'd be able to close-out tonight.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/17/12 at 5:51

Once past Kentucky the corn-pon is left behind.

Go Preds!!

By: Captain Nemo on 4/17/12 at 5:56

The Space Shuttle Discovery is in rout for is new home in DC at the Smithsoniona.

Go Preds!!

By: Loner on 4/17/12 at 6:01

Nashville, Tennessee.....the best guitar pickin', slap-stickin', puck-whackin', pistol-packin' city in the world...I feel it is a privilege to post here....and I thank the Nashville City Paper for hosting this marvelous site.

By: yogiman on 4/17/12 at 6:04

Not to change the subject, but to go back to the original topic, when did Metro get in the taxi business?

If they have the authority to set the fees on the taxis, why don't they have the authority to set all prices on all businesses?

By: gdiafante on 4/17/12 at 6:07

Oh brother...

By: Loner on 4/17/12 at 6:08

OMG...Yogi asks cogent, relevant questions....great questions.

I dunno, Yogi...but maybe somebody here can answer your questions.

By: gdiafante on 4/17/12 at 6:16

Those aren't good questions...Metro Transportation Licensing Commisssion...does that sound like a taxi company?

What part about transportation licensing indicates they would have the authority to do anything outside of transportation?

By: Captain Nemo on 4/17/12 at 6:18

Don't feed the troll, Loner. Cities have the right to regulate taxis and set fees.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/17/12 at 6:24

What do they do in New York?

By: yogiman on 4/17/12 at 6:25

gdiafante,

In regard to your reference to my ignorance on the national seat belt law: How do you account for Senate Bill S. 1993 introduced by Senators John Warner and Hillary Clinton in 2003 when Judith Lee Stone as president of Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety stated "it is time for a national seat belt law"?

It was referred only 20 states and the District of Columbia had primary enforcement seat belt laws at that time and 29 states had secondary laws regarding seat belt use.

It seems S. 1993 gave the states 3 years to enact a primary seat belt law.

www.saferoads.com/national-primary-enforecement-seat-belt-law

By: Loner on 4/17/12 at 6:28

By: BenDover on 4/17/12 at 6:22

"I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas" Hillary Clinton

If only she had...she would not have been a US Senator representing New York State....she used the position as a stepping stone to the Presidency...but failing in her bid for the top job, she settled for Secretary of State....lots of face time in the news media...carrying water for the Hope & Change agenda and the 750 million-dollar, Peace Prize Prez.

When Hillary abandoned NY state, our interim post-Spitzer Governor, David Paterson, appointed Kirsten Gillibrand. to fill Hillary's huge shoes.

Kirsten Gillibrand spent $24,633,032 to retain her Senate seat.

Source:
http://maplight.org/us-congress/legislator/708-kirsten-gillibrand

Thanks a lot, Mrs. Clinton....and thanks, Dave....with Democrats like you two, who needs Republicans?

By: yogiman on 4/17/12 at 6:35

I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong, gdiafante, but Metro Transportation Licensing Commission sounds (to me) like a branch of the Metro government a taxi company must get a license through to operate a business in Nashville. And that office has the authority to tell each company what they must charge for their commission?

So I repeat, does all Metro offices [where a company must go to get a license to operate a business] have the authority to tell them what prices they must use?

By: Rasputin72 on 4/17/12 at 6:37

This is a topic that is deserving of the press that it is getting. This country is mired in a monotonous existence. This has extended all the way down to cities and towns.

When news becomes boring,each and every one of us is delighted to see an article that is worthy of its notice. Cabs versus limos certainly something that every citizen who might someday take a cab or a limo should involve he or she.

The sale of the Bob Frensley property on Charlotte to Karl Dean is a story that no one wants to read about. The fact that this could be one of the biggest stories in Metro history is of no concern to anyone.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/17/12 at 6:41

Here is a topic;why does channel 5 keep bragging about their Power of 5 radar, when channel 4 has 6 radars?

By: gdiafante on 4/17/12 at 6:43

Yogi, unless I missed something, there is still no Federal law requiring the use of a seatbelt. And, unless I'm wrong, the Feds have the right to set requirements for states to receive federal funding. In actuality, had Obama used this as a guideline, the USSC probably wouldn't be reviewing the healthcare law.

Again, yogi, and I thought this was common knowledge, businesses need licenses to operate. Duh...

By: gdiafante on 4/17/12 at 6:47

I'd rather ask, Nemo, why, with all these radars, can't they get anything right? I think weather forecasting was better in the 70's.

By: Loner on 4/17/12 at 6:50

By: gdiafante on 4/17/12 at 7:16

Those aren't good questions...Metro Transportation Licensing Commisssion...does that sound like a taxi company?

What part about transportation licensing indicates they would have the authority to do anything outside of transportation?

I respectfully disagree:

Yogiman asked 2 questions:

1. When did Metro get into the taxi business?

2. If they have the authority to set the fees on the taxis, why don't they have the authority to set all prices on all businesses?

A little historical review is helpful and the first question is a fair one.

The "they" in the second question seems to refer to METRO, not to the "Metro Transportation Licensing Commission". Nobody is alleging that the Metro Transportation Licensing Commission is trying to extend its authority outside of transportation.

Nobody has claimed that Metro Transportation Licensing Commission "sounds like a taxi company"...where did GD get that from? Not from Yogi's post or mine.

If Metro lawmakers can set prices in the taxi industry, what's to prohibit them from setting prices in other industries as we move forward? A great debate question, IMO.

I believe that Yogi's questions in this case are valid and reasonable...his past trolling behavior notwithstanding.

By: gdiafante on 4/17/12 at 7:00

Well, I suppose equating a licensing commission to a business would need clarification. One sets requirements, the other provides services for a profit. Still vague? Oh well.

I suppose one could go to their website, inform themselves and then be enlightened, or they could just dissect and over-analyze simple statements creating a line of discussion where none existed before.

Either way, when I see someone display a complete lack of understanding regarding pretty simple ideas, I call them out.

By: yogiman on 4/17/12 at 7:09

Loner,

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, thus, my view of all subject on this site can easily be different from yours and your fellow posters. You all just seem to think I should see all issues as you do.

Sorry, I'm me. I see things the way I see them and I agree you are entitled to your way of seeing issues. If that wasn't the case, what would you have to [argue] about?

And "speaking" of Metro laws, what do you think of Michigan's laws on pig farmers?

It seems they sent crews out on farms to kill their pigs and one man had to kill his own pigs. To me, that is more government control over the people. That is pure government by the government for the government. To hell with the people.

www.naturalnews.com/035585_michigan_farms_raids.html/

By: Captain Nemo on 4/17/12 at 7:10

It seems to me that the weather forcast at best is an educated guess and I keep an eye on what they say. To many varibles at any moment can change a forcast at anytime, so the people need to watch and judge for themselves.

Loner you are feeding the troll. ;-)

By: Loner on 4/17/12 at 7:13

Well, I thought that Yogi's 7:04 & 7:35 posts on this topic were articulate and valid....his 7:25 post regarding national seat belt laws was credibly sourced...he put a URL out there....if he stays off the Usurper stuff, I won't shun his posts....if he goes back to his trolling ways, I'll activate the "Ignore Troll" feature....I mean, diversity is good, right?

By: gdiafante on 4/17/12 at 7:14

Yeah, it's an educated guess, but you'd think new technology would make that guess a little better. Other than being able to warn a specific street when a thunderstorm is threatening, the radar/doppler's really don't add much.

I think they're more in the business of creating alarm than weather forecasting.

By: gdiafante on 4/17/12 at 7:17

Loner, the seatbelt issue stems from yesterday, when he didn't know that states have seatbelt laws. He thought it was a federal mandate. He kept asking questions and then played dumb, that he wasn't familiar enough with the computer and internet to find out on his own.

In that regard, he's made progress. If you believe his act, which I don't.

It's the same thing regarding taxis. A licensing commission setting requirements is a far cry from being in the taxi business, for obvious reasons (I thought).

We'll agree to disagree.

By: bfra on 4/17/12 at 7:17

What does "beauty" have to do with any subject mentioned today or the killing of pigs?

By: Captain Nemo on 4/17/12 at 7:22

Feeding the troll.

Once ever now and then yogi stumbles onto reallity and gets someting right. However when he gets a complement he goes off tilt and starts his crap.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/17/12 at 7:24

I read the pig link and it sounds as if we have another conspricacy going in on.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/17/12 at 7:26

Call for arrest of Michigan's DNR agents
Based on the actions of the DNR, it is my belief that the DNR is a rogue, criminal gang of government thugs who are murdering livestock, destroying the lives of farmers, violating the constitutional rights of Michigan citizens and engaging in outrageous acts of destruction of private property.

By: Loner on 4/17/12 at 7:27

To paraphrase one of the most-mocked men in America..."Can't we all just get a bong?"

By: dargent7 on 4/17/12 at 7:29

I just don't know how Mitt Romney's dad and grandfather, both born in Mexico, can be called "natural born American citizens".
These Birther nutz cases should bark up that family tree.
His wife's father was born in Wales. And the Birthers, when the LSD wears off, should look into whether a First Lady has any restrictions on birth place.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/17/12 at 7:34

As usual yogi leaves out a few details;

Although the ruling, which specifically bans species Sus scrofa or “wild boar” and may be a genuinely well-thought ruling designed to eliminate the threat of a feral animal that is susceptible to human-contagious diseases and has been known to destroy natural resources and man-made cropland, as described by a 3-part academic documentary “A Pickup Load of Pigs” produced by Mississippi State University (Part 1, Part 2, Part 3) the technique of enforcement in Michigan seems to me to be poorly executed. The real strategy would be education and instruction of the dangers for raising this variety of stock and introduction to viable or otherwise hardy replacement species and access to legitimate stock sources so that a controlled swap could be developed instead of blunt, indiscriminate annihilation of an entire farm’s stock.

http://ablestmage.wordpress.com/2012/04/17/is-the-michigan-department-of-natural-resources-wrong-for-mass-killing-pigs/

By: slacker on 4/17/12 at 7:38

''I don't care how much they charge, as long as they don't smell, and try to speak to me.''
-Keith Olbermann

By: Loner on 4/17/12 at 7:39

I tried the Pig Farm URL, could not find page..I then tried an AVG search and found this site:

http://www.naturalnews.com/035585_Michigan_farms_raids.html

Seems like the farmer who killed all of his pigs did it BEFORE the authorities arrived, not in compliance with a government order to do so...as the hyped-up articled implies

Now, we know which troughs Yogi is feeding at.....it's good to keep an eye on the extremists and the alarmists on the right & the left.

By: Loner on 4/17/12 at 7:43

Slack Attack @ 8:38.....perfect timing....as usual.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/17/12 at 7:46

Hide your daughters and wifes from slacker,

By: Loner on 4/17/12 at 7:47

Engaging Standard Running Gag Function (SRGF):

"An armed & outraged pig farmer in Michigan mistakenly wanders into a gay piano bar....."

By: BenDover on 4/17/12 at 7:49

The taxi world shifted from a profit incentive to a graft incentive. The existing companies makes concessions on having price-fixed rates and pay homage to the transportation authority and council-members to protect their market.

Parking's not that much different.

By: BenDover on 4/17/12 at 7:51

$25 bucks to the airport from anywhere in the metro area or Opryland Hotel / Oprymills is pretty sweet though. It would seem Gaylord's got his hand in it too.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/17/12 at 7:53

...and found porky pig with dafy duck.

By: Loner on 4/17/12 at 7:57

Quick Questions.....and on topic:

One guy owns three cab companies in Metro Nashville?

Competition is being stifled?

Prices are being fixed by non-market forces?

Who is being served here? The cab companies, the lawmakers or the general public?

By: BenDover on 4/17/12 at 7:57

lol

http://tinyurl.com/UncleTedGoesHyperbolic