Up for Debate: Lowering BAC threshold

Tuesday, May 14, 2013 at 10:55pm

Should the legal blood alcohol content threshold be lowered from .08 to .05 as has been suggested by the NTSB has recommended?

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108 Comments on this post:

By: dargent7 on 5/15/13 at 11:11

Ben-Dr.:
This just in...Angelina Jolie is now going to have her ovaries removed...she's all of 37. I'm 57 and would pay (top dollar) for a pair of ovaries. But, that's just me. I remember when it was fashionable to get a vascectomy...then your wife divorces you and your next wife wants a child. So, you had it reversed. This idiot has both breasts removed, replaced by saline, and now had a pro-active hysterectomy?
You simply cannot make this sh!t up.

By: BenDover on 5/15/13 at 11:19

Speaking of Mammaries...

Loner my brother... you been holdin' out on us?

http://tinyurl.com/lonersGotItGoinOnUpThere

By: bfra on 5/15/13 at 11:25

Ben - Get a life!

By: BenDover on 5/15/13 at 11:37

I spent all my 20s and 30s being a responsible adult. It's overrated.

By: bfra on 5/15/13 at 11:43

But don't further your yogitis by repeating!

By: Loner on 5/15/13 at 12:39

Thank you, Darge for the kind word.

Ben, when it comes to nudity...those who could don't...those who shouldn't do.

I'll be going to my Summer Retreat on May 31...a Friday....the "Shaggin' Wagon" is all set to go.... witches, warlocks, pagans, hotties and hippies are calling me on the phone...we're gonna convene at the end of the month.

Right now, I gotta run...Doctor's appt.....routine skin doctor visit....I was exposed to a lot of sunlight over the years...so I see this guy annually.

Later!

By: Jughead on 5/15/13 at 12:47

Obama is a criminal who illegally used the DOJ and IRS to suppress opposition. However, it is no surprise that you liberal morons still support him.

The sick thing is, you'd be farting cheesecake if a Republican did the same thing. But, you libtards are not concerned with the Rule of Law, you only want the Rule of Welfare.

Disgusting, feminine, dishonest libtards. Pukes.

IMPEACH OBAMA!!!!!

By: bfra on 5/15/13 at 12:52

Jughead is really pissed about his food stamps & welfare being cut, but blaming it on the wrong party. Read the news jug, teapubs are reducing your freebies.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/15/13 at 12:59

GOP is trying to cut overtime pay too.

By: Jughead on 5/15/13 at 1:01

Loner: we do not want to hear about your stupid medical history. Please get those anal herpes fixed soon. Al Gore is a wild poodle waiting to climb into your shaggin wagon.

By: Jughead on 5/15/13 at 1:02

IMPEACH OBAMA!

Throw the Kenyan out NOW!

By: brrrrk on 5/15/13 at 1:11

Anyone care to guess how many semi-political organizations applying for non-profit status where denied during the period that everyone is ranting about? The answer.... one. And it was a progressive group. No tea party group was denied non-profit status. Go figure.....

By: Jughead on 5/15/13 at 1:25

brrrk: The IRS illegally spied on conservative groups by requiring them to identify every person affiliated with them. And, they let liberals pass without scrutiny.

It was Obama SPYING on US citizens for political purposes---why doesn't that outrage you?

Oh--forgot--you're a disgusting liberal who cares nothing about the Rule of Law.

By: Jughead on 5/15/13 at 1:26

Conservatives need to wake up and acknowledge that liberals want to destroy America any way that they can. Laws are only for their benefit.

I hate liberals. I hope every one of them dies prematurely.

By: Jughead on 5/15/13 at 1:27

IMPEACH HUSSEIN OBAMA!

By: BenDover on 5/15/13 at 1:27

They slow-walked them all brrrrk... and required a ton of inappropriate information that was used politically.

It's not a conspiracy but the Left's 'invisible hand' using the vast bureaucracy for political aims.

By: Jughead on 5/15/13 at 1:51

As the New York Times reported back in 2010 :

With growing scrutiny of the role of tax-exempt groups in political campaigns, Congressional Republicans are pushing back against Democrats by warning about the possible misuse of the Internal Revenue Service to audit conservative groups….And the Republicans are also upset about an I.R.S. review requested by Senator Max Baucus, the Montana Democrat who leads the Finance Committee, into the political activities of tax-exempt groups. Such a review threatens to "chill the legitimate exercise of First Amendment rights," wrote two Republican senators, Orrin G. Hatch of Utah and Jon Kyl of Arizona, in a letter sent to the I.R.S. on Wednesday. ... Democrats dismissed the Republicans' complaints as groundless.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/15/13 at 1:59

Churches that back or oppose any sort of legislation or who endorse a specific candidate need to lose their tax exempt status.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/15/13 at 2:05

The maelstrom over the revelation that the IRS targeted anti-tax Tea Party groups applying for tax exempt status for scrutiny is showing no signs of slowing down, with Republicans seeing their chance to milk a scandal for political purposes. But while the politics is heating up, some important context is emerging, like the fact that liberal groups were targeted as well, and in fact the only group to have its application denied was a liberal group.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/15/1209257/-Liberal-groups-received-same-IRS-letter-that-ignited-Tea-Party-nbsp-outrage

More GOP butthurt.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/15/13 at 2:06

The other point he makes, which we're not hearing frequently or loudly enough in the response to the kerfuffle, is a real scandal: "the social welfare tax exemption is being used by existing 501(c)(4) organizations, including some very large ones, to promote partisan political interests—the very activity Congress has explicitly prohibited for a century." In other words, Karl Rove and Crossroads.

This is a serious issue, one deserving of investigation. But Republicans could be biting off more than they can chew if it causes a bright light to be shone on how politically partisan organizations, like Rove's, are exploiting the law.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/15/13 at 2:09

Outside groups -- including nonprofit social-welfare groups that don’t disclose their donors -- spent $1 billion in the 2012 elections, three times as much as they did four years earlier, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, based in Washington.

“The real problem is that phony 501(c)(4) groups are exploiting the tax laws to protect donors who don’t want to be held accountable for vicious, deceitful political ads,” said Melanie Sloan, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-05-14/irs-sent-same-letter-to-democrats-that-fed-tea-party-row-taxes

By: brrrrk on 5/15/13 at 2:43

Blanketnazi2 said

"This is a serious issue, one deserving of investigation. But Republicans could be biting off more than they can chew if it causes a bright light to be shone on how politically partisan organizations, like Rove's, are exploiting the law."

And has anyone given any thought to the fact that the number of conservative groups running to the 501(c)(4) trough looking to take advantage of the loophole far outnumbered progressive groups? I'd love to see the stats.

On an aside, my wife is part of a group that applied for 501(c)(4) status for a pet rescue group.... all I've got to say is that you better have all your "i's" dotted and your "t's" crossed, and frankly that's the way it should be if you're attempting to avoid paying taxes.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/15/13 at 2:48

I agree, brrrk. It should be hard to qualify.

By: Jughead on 5/15/13 at 2:59

You lying liberals would be doing back-flips and screaming if the IRS had targeted libtard groups at the Prez's requests.

You are just damn scumbag liars. Every one of you maggot liberals.

By: bfra on 5/15/13 at 3:03

Jughead you maggot teabag, you would be saying something is you had sense enough to even know what you are saying.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/15/13 at 3:30

Apparently his reading comprehension is no better than yogi's, bfra.

By: bfra on 5/15/13 at 3:39

Blanket - Their vocabulary is equally as small. Their background is easy to recognize from their wording. Lowlife in my book!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/15/13 at 3:41

Yep.

By: yogiman on 5/15/13 at 3:41

Well, B2,

I'll argue my reading comprehension is far superior to yours and your fellow Obama fans. That is, unless Barry was lying in his autobiography.

But, one more time, 'tell me' how he is in that office legally. And tell me how you know if the name he's using is his name legally.

By: bfra on 5/15/13 at 3:52

3:41PM Comment says it ALL about l lowlife!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/15/13 at 3:53

yogi, grow a brain and review the info already sent to you several times. You are bored and post things here so that people will argue with you and give you attention. You showing up day after day acting like an ass does absolutely nothing in furthering your "cause."

Idiot.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/15/13 at 4:03

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/donald-youre-fired/

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/15/13 at 4:11

http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/9647/did-obama-mention-in-his-book-he-was-born-in-kenya

http://www.therightsphere.com/2012/05/obama-was-not-born-in-kenya/

By: bfra on 5/15/13 at 4:15

Blanket - Ignoramus yogi knows all of this. He is too ignorant to admit he is wrong of every comment he makes. They are all LIES & he knows it.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/15/13 at 4:21

bfra, could you please italianize that for me?

By: Jughead on 5/15/13 at 4:21

Eric Holder should be in jail. Obama should not even be president--because he is not even a damn US citizen!

IMPEACH OBAMA THE MUSLIM.

By: Loner on 5/15/13 at 4:32

Hey kids.....beautiful day here....warmth returned....clear skies...life is good....and Jughead has exposed his misogynistic streak.....he hates women....Jug, come out already....we'll still love you...you are gay and that's OK. You are amongst friends.

By: bfra on 5/15/13 at 4:46

Blanket - That's yogi's field.

By: yogiman on 5/15/13 at 4:47

Well, B2,

I can't remember your posting Barry's eligibility one time, and certainly not several.

And as I've posted several time before,B2, he 'said' (in an advertisement promoting his book "Dreams from My Father") he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. Was he lying? If he was born in Kenya with a British subject his father, how can he be a natural born American citizen? At her age in 1961, his mother could not pass her American citizenship down to him. He would be born as a British subject.

So..., has he ever become an American citizen by naturalization? You don't know, do you?

B2, you seem to have good user's knowledge on a computer; it shouldn't take you much to pull all of the data out of the bags. That is, if you was interested in the actual information.

By: bfra on 5/15/13 at 4:57

yogi the crazy old fool doesn't have sense enough to read the FACTS that Blanket put on the board.

By: Loner on 5/15/13 at 4:58

Yogi...your are a consummate asshole....look it up.

By: yogiman on 5/15/13 at 5:01

I hate to post this, bfra, but I've been known all of my life to admit I was wrong on an issue if proven to be. So prove me wrong on whatever issue you insist you're wright about.

I don't believe you fit that category.

By: Loner on 5/15/13 at 5:03

This was once a great site...lots of cogent posters....lots of LTE's and essays everyday to comment on....now....after Clint Brewer all but wrecked the place, we see a proliferation of idiots and assholes posting here....the NCP is a mere shadow of its former self...it's now Troll City. Don't know why I still post here...nostalgia, I suppose.

By: dargent7 on 5/15/13 at 5:03

The salient argument for the stupidity of these same morons who post here, as well as all Republicans...eg., Palin, Bachmann, is that like it or not, 9/11 occured on GW Bush's watch. He was President. Not for 4 months, not for 6 months, but for 9 FULL months. That's enough for him to have gotten his feet wet.
Repubs like to lie and skew the facts to support their ever eroding base.
Next to Pearl Harbor, it is the worst attack on American soil, ever.
After Nixon, he's the worst President.
Maybe after Taft.

By: bfra on 5/15/13 at 5:12

yogi doesn't even know the difference between wright & right. Next to cover his error, he will probably claim to have flown with the Wright Brothers. LOL His MO!

By: brrrrk on 5/15/13 at 5:16

bfra said

"yogi doesn't even know the difference between wright & right. Next to cover his error, he will probably claim to have flown with the Wright Brothers. LOL His MO!"

No, he would claim to have flown with the Right Brothers.....

By: budlight on 5/15/13 at 5:21

dargent7 on 5/15/13 at 11:11
Ben-Dr.:
This just in...Angelina Jolie is now going to have her ovaries removed...she's all of 37. I'm 57 and would pay (top dollar) for a pair of ovaries. But, that's just me. I remember when it was fashionable to get a vascectomy...then your wife divorces you and your next wife wants a child. So, you had it reversed. This idiot has both breasts removed, replaced by saline, and now had a pro-active hysterectomy?
You simply cannot make this sh!t up.

D7, her mother died a painful death of breast cancer; she has an 87% chance of getting it. So she''s rich and has the money and insurance to do some preventive maintenance. Why do you fault her? If it was Michele Obama would you cry Foul? Probably not. Many women opt for double mastectomy instead of cancer. Or have you just lost touch with the modern cancer saga?

By: Loner on 5/15/13 at 5:21

LBJ was the worst, Darge...he was complicit it the Mossad snuffing of his boss, JFK.

Kennedy had told the Israelis that he would not tolerate any nuclear weapons program coming out of Dimona, where the French had built the militant Jews a nuclear reactor....as some sort of national penance for their flagrant anti-Semitism under the Nazi occupation.

Here's a copy of JFK's letter to David Ben Gurion, PM of Israel.....Ben Gurion quit after he received this ultimatum....Ben Gurion was the founder of the Mossad.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/FRUS5_18_63.html

No doubt, the Jews had a hand in killing JFK. LBJ gave them the green light for their nukes. Later, LBJ immediately forgave the Jews for their sustained and deliberate attack on the USS Liberty......With friends like the Israelis, who needs enemies?

LBJ should be posthumously tried for murder.

By: Rasputin72 on 5/15/13 at 5:34

Yes indeed, LONER. I see nothing but the intellectual bowels of humanity.

Never in the world of intellectual humanity would one use Gilligan's Island as a beacon of of untellectual curiosity.

You truly were capable of more in life. Class envy stopped you dead in your tracks.
Now all you have for support is a free speech forum and shut ons, welfare maidens amd gents the wprking poor to rally your life.

In this world winners and losers will come and go. The only constant will be whether right or wrong , strong and most cunning will always ibe on the first rung of civilization. While the weak, meak and nit shits will be plowed under like the manure that comes frpm their anus.

By: bfra on 5/15/13 at 5:52

Raspy - While the weak, meak and nit shits will be plowed under like the manure that comes frpm their anus.
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Raspy is describing himself, again. Not to fret Raspy, the more intelligent ones on this forum totally agree with your self description.