Up for Debate: Obama, Clinton team up against Romney

Tuesday, June 5, 2012 at 1:16am

After praising Mitt Romney's business career last week, former President Bill Clinton appeared at fundraisers for President Obama Monday night. Clinton and Obama's political relationship has at times seemed a powerful force and at times — given the presidential campaign battle between Hillary Clinton and Obama — been strained. How important is the former president's campaign presence for Obama in facing Romney? And how likely is the former president to do more damage than good for Obama?

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86 Comments on this post:

By: bfra on 6/5/12 at 12:20

yogi is just eating this up! All his repeated BS getting all this attention. He has probably had to change his diaper several times today.

By: gdiafante on 6/5/12 at 12:37

And I've been able to refute him on every point. This is fun.

By: yogiman on 6/5/12 at 12:40

gdiafarte,

I believe it will be found snopes is as big of an Obama admirer as you are. I haven't read one comment on Obama by snopes that wasn't in his favor. Have you?

This whole issue isn't just Barack Obama, it's the communist party in their process of taking control of this nation.

I'm FOS? Just hang in there, you've only got 160 days to understand it a little better. That is, unless you're one of them.

By: gdiafante on 6/5/12 at 12:45

Right...don't like the truth, everyone must be in on the conspiracy...the tin foil hat fits you well, yogi.

Yes, you're FOS. Can I get an amen?

By: yogiman on 6/5/12 at 12:47

Hang in there, gdiafarte. You've got a long way to go.

Question, which I'm sure you have an answer: Can you explain why that birth certificate Obama showed as his "birth certificate" was a print of 9 layers of paper? Can you also explain why the letters and numbers don't match as they would on a 1961 typewriter?

Just curious.

By: gdiafante on 6/5/12 at 12:54

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/

Note that it's Fox that is reporting the story...

Anything else, numbnutz?

By: gdiafante on 6/5/12 at 1:19

He either is changing his diaper or frantically searching the internet for more conspiracies...or both.

By: brrrrk on 6/5/12 at 1:28

BenDover said

"Looks like Walker and the citizens of Wisconsin have slammed the SEIU's d*ck in the door."

Wouldn't count your Koch brothers before they're hatched...

Even if Walker does pull this out, it took spending 7 times what the Democratic candidate spent with 66% of Walkers contributions coming from out of state... while only 26% of the Democratic candidates contributions came from out of state. If Walker won this, it was only through brute force and nothing else. An even so, Walker (and a few other in his staff) will likely be brought up on charges for the John Doe investigation... he might spend the rest of his term behind bars.

By: gdiafante on 6/5/12 at 1:40

The polls haven't even closed...that's just ben talking out his yogi. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if Walker wins...Wisconsin is very rural...if you know what I mean.

By: brrrrk on 6/5/12 at 1:50

gdiafante said

"The polls haven't even closed...that's just ben talking out his yogi. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if Walker wins...Wisconsin is very rural...if you know what I mean."

True, Walker just may have won.... but he no longer has control of the Senate in Wisconsin. He'll no longer be able to jam his policies down the throats of the people there.

What's despicable though is the use of robocalls by Walker, one of which told people that if they signed the petition to recall Walker they didn't have to vote today, and another that just came out today telling voters that election day was tomorrow. And the GOP wants to yell about morality......

By: gdiafante on 6/5/12 at 1:59

I watched a little of the debate last week when I was there, what I could stomach anyway. You're right about the John Doe thing.

By: yogiman on 6/5/12 at 2:04

gdiafarte,

That is a comment by one person through Fox news. Why has so many other "experts" claimed there is so many "errors" noted by them?

To refresh your knowledge, Fox news isn't the same news source it was before Saudi Arabia a hunk of their stock.

Why is there any "layers" on a birth certificate? How many "layers" does your have?

If you recall, the current governor of Hawaii was an old family friend and said he would have that birth certificate shown as soon as he was sworn into office. How long has he been in office now?

For some reason he couldn't explain, he couldn't have Obama's birth certificate shown because they apparently couldn't find it.

And if you remember further back down the line, the head of that department said she had seen his birth certificate and half of it was written in pencil.

When did pencil writing turn into computerized print?

By: gdiafante on 6/5/12 at 2:07

Anyone else find it hilarious how yogi rationalizes this stuff? Though it's not surprising...81 years of stupid can't be wiped out overnight...

By: BenDover on 6/5/12 at 2:08

Intrade has a Walker win at 94% ... it's a done deal.

By: yogiman on 6/5/12 at 2:09

brrrrk,

Do you believe there should be no out of state money sent into Wisconsin for its recall vote?

Tell me, then, do you believe it's okay for foreign money to be sent into the USA as campaign money? If so, why?

By: slacker on 6/5/12 at 2:15

To all of you Obama voters out there, election day is wednesday november 7th
-Robocall

By: BenDover on 6/5/12 at 2:16

Wow... FBI? Sucks to make it to Obama and Holder's enemies list.

By: gdiafante on 6/5/12 at 2:21

Don't you love democracy, Ben? Intrade reports it so why should people bother to vote...you know, the ones who haven't done so yet because of work...

By: gdiafante on 6/5/12 at 2:24

Besides, how many times has a governor been recalled successfully...3 times? Maybe 4?

By: BenDover on 6/5/12 at 2:26

Intrade is just showing the current bid/offer on that market gd... just like Gallup, et al do with their polling. It'll quickly progress to 100 - 0 when the results start coming in.

By: dargent7 on 6/5/12 at 2:27

It's really the local chapter of, "Club Nutz".
ie., Birthers.
They don't like a black man in the W.H. Even if only half black.
They use inductive reasoning..."If he won't provide us, old, all white men, his birth cert., therefore, he wasn't born in America".(....Hawaii isn't really a state, anyway).
"Who does he think he is, anyway?" "Won't provide us with his college transcripts,...therefore, didn't even go to college". A guy yesterday said "Obama never taught at Harvard".
These Birthers go back to the Truman and Eisenhower era. 40's and 50's.
Can you imagine the uproar if a reporter asked Truman to see his birth cert.?
And these putz's don't get it.
I just hope and pray all are making prior funeral arrangements. Obama will win in 2012.

By: brrrrk on 6/5/12 at 2:37

gdiafante on 6/5/12 at 3:21

"Don't you love democracy, Ben? Intrade reports it so why should people bother to vote...you know, the ones who haven't done so yet because of work..."

Here's Ben's idea of Democracy....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPsl_TuFdes&feature=related

By: BenDover on 6/5/12 at 2:43

I believe I heard that there have been three governor recall elections 2 which succeeded and one, today, that will most likely fail.

By: gdiafante on 6/5/12 at 2:46

Most likely? I thought you said it was a done deal...oh ye of little faith...

By: yogiman on 6/5/12 at 2:57

brrrrk,

You make a comment about money coming into Wisconsin from out of state. I notice unions are coming in from out of state; is that okay?

By: brrrrk on 6/5/12 at 3:55

yogiman said

"brrrrk,

You make a comment about money coming into Wisconsin from out of state. I notice unions are coming in from out of state; is that okay?"

First of all, unions (unlike corporations) are democratic organizations. All positions that are represented by unions are the result of union members voting for union representatives. Also, regardless of what the GOP tells you, union dues DO NOT go to political activities... using dues for political purposes is illegal. As for whether or not unions should have been involved I defer to a Republican President who said....

"It is essential that there should be organization of labor. This is an era of organization. Capital organizes and therefore labor must organize." - Theodore Roosevelt

Now when corporations choose to back out of politics, then yes, unions should... but until then...

By: brrrrk on 6/5/12 at 4:05

And one more thing yogi, I would love nothing more than to have both unions and corporations/organized capital out of elections... but remember this, unions came into existence in order for workers to deal with the abusive activities of corporations. If corporations would have treated workers fairly in the first place, there would have been no need for unions.

By: brrrrk on 6/5/12 at 4:06

And you're a damned fool (especially at your age) if you don't realize that.

By: yogiman on 6/5/12 at 4:25

brrrrk,

I agree unionism is a democratic right, with the consent of the government. But you said you rebuked money coming into Wisconsin from out of state sources in Walker's favor.

I simply asked if it was okay for unions from other states should feel free to come in the state in favor of Walker's opponent.

Does the union have more rights than the general public?

I also agree corporations should not be in politics. When the Supreme Court gave the okay for corporations to give money to campaigners for political offices that opened the door for corporations to gain more control over that office.

The corporation's money is coming from investors. The corporation's officers then can decide who to "donate" it to; meaning it makes no difference who the majority of the stockholders might favor, it's the officers using the investors money... to hell with what they want.

By: yogiman on 6/5/12 at 4:28

brrrrk,

I understand I'm a damn fool to you point of view, but if you're fortunate to live as long as I have, maybe you'll gain a little bit of intelligence.

By: brrrrk on 6/5/12 at 8:10

yogiman said

"brrrrk,

I understand I'm a damn fool to you point of view, but if you're fortunate to live as long as I have, maybe you'll gain a little bit of intelligence."

You know yogi, being old doesn't automatically make you smart, it just automatically makes you old...

By: parnell3rd on 6/5/12 at 8:20

"Why just a few years ago he'd be getting us coffee" Bill Clinton talking about Pres. Obama. Does that statement make Bill a racist or jealous? Pres. Obama should be careful 'ole Bill problt got his eyes of the First Lady!

By: yogiman on 6/5/12 at 8:27

Being old gives you experience the youngsters (like you) hasn't gained yet. There is no better teacher than experience, brrrrk.

You'll learn as you get older.

By: brrrrk on 6/5/12 at 9:22

yogiman said

"Being old gives you experience the youngsters (like you) hasn't gained yet. There is no better teacher than experience, brrrrk.

You'll learn as you get older."

I know more now than you'll ever learn in a lifetime. Plus, I'll be ALIVE...

By: yogiman on 6/5/12 at 9:34

It's all in your brain, brrrrk. You must offer significant evidence which you seem to be unable to do.

And by the way, I heard Gov. Walker shut them up in Wisconsin.

By: FaceBook:Emmett... on 6/8/12 at 12:42

Clinton's only staying close enough in to the campaign to be able to slit ObaMao's throat as revenge for them playing the race card against Hilary in '08. "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer". Other sensible Dems are either leaving the party altogether or trying to distance themselves from the Fraud (and Failed) Potentate. They know what's coming.