Up for Debate: Police padlock markets

Tuesday, July 10, 2012 at 11:42pm

Do you agree with the move by law enforcement officials to raid and padlock local markets that allegedly sold synthetic? Is the shuttering of businesses and seizure of money a good use of law enforcement resources, or do you believe the producers will just find other ways around the law? How do you generally feel about public nuisance laws being used to shutter businesses — something Metro police has stepped up the past few years?

 

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117 Comments on this post:

By: dargent7 on 7/11/12 at 5:51

Just by chance, I was driving thru East Nashville (my personal favorite place to buy drugs), and Channel 4 was outside this market. Moments later there was a sign on the door, "Closed by Order of...."
But, what is "synthetic" anyway? I thought the new craze was bath salts.
Crack is passe', so I'd better bone up on the hip stuff to waste yourself and destroy your brain and entire life.
That, or join the Republican party and Tea Baggers.

By: Ummm... on 7/11/12 at 6:19

d7- Good post; destroying your ability to reason with poisonous drugs or destroying your ability to reason by joining the Teapublicans- what's the difference?

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 6:21

Welcome aboard, dargent7,

You're obviously improving your intelligence by thinking about becoming a Tea Partier.. or Republican at your age in life. But do it before your 50th birthday. You'll be glad you did.

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 6:33

If what the police did was a legal move, I agree with it. But if the items being sold we not being sold illegally, how can they shut their doors legally?

By what law are they using to tell a store they can't sell a legitimate item. Just because they don't like it? It isn't the store owner's obligation on telling their customers how to use such items.

And why concentrate on East Nashville. Were they the only stores selling such items?

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 6:43

LOL...apparently yogi completely misunderstood darge's statement, proving Darge is correct.

By: govskeptic on 7/11/12 at 6:45

11 stores were locked under nuisance act of new law making these packages
illegal to sell or possess! "Yes We Can" was either the appropriate or
inappropriate name of one or more of the stores! How ironic is that?
These drugs are causing some of the most irrational behavior of anything
the Police or medical labs have ever faced! Immoral greed at it worst!

By: dargent7 on 7/11/12 at 6:54

I read the article: the sting operation was against "synthetic marijuana" and Dove bars with "syn" Ecstacy. So, what?
Behind each counter is a phalanx of cigarettes that are KNOWN cancer causing agents with over 2,000 carcinogenic chemicals.
All legal.
Next to that are three walls of BEER. Alcohol is KNOWN to impair one's ability to drive, think, read, have sex. All legal
I'll smoke the "syn" (or real) marijuana and take my chances.

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 6:57

That's just because each of those have their own lobby group, darge. Until there's a synth lobby to throw money at politicians, they'll crack down on them.

Gov, your obsession with exclamation points is disturbing.

By: dargent7 on 7/11/12 at 6:59

"yogi": Come on over to West Nashville. Green Hills, Belle Meade areas. Park your Pinto or wife's Maverick next to all the late model BMW's, Mercedes, Lexus's, Jaguars.
Then ask the convience clerk for some "synthetic". I'm sure it would go over real well.

By: govskeptic on 7/11/12 at 7:01

None of the products mentioned above are known to cause one human
to attempt eating the face off of another or to continue raping a child with
the father attempting to pull him off! Both defendants described were
tested and under the influence of these "synthetic drugs/bath salts!"

By: dargent7 on 7/11/12 at 7:07

gD: The "gov" is always highly excitable talking about issues he knows nothing about.
I think he's just high on Jesus or the very thought Mitt might win in November.
Even syn drugs don't get people this aggitated.

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 7:07

Right...so cancer is okay but we draw the line at an altered mental state that may or may not create zombie-like actions. Gotcha!

You know, we could feed bath salts to undesirables (this will please Raspy) and have them feed on the cancer of those who smoke!

Genius!

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 7:08

I always pictured gov as a she.

By: dargent7 on 7/11/12 at 7:14

No, "gov" People with a BAC of 0.26+ just drive head-on into another car, killing all the inhabitants, usually a married couple with small children, instantly.
And smokers die at a rate of 400,000 a year and cost the USA $50 billion a year in medical costs.
Even exchange?

By: dargent7 on 7/11/12 at 7:34

Off-Topic: Uncle Mitty Romney was asked where his are his off shore accounts.
He said, "I don't even know where they are".
We want this guy to run the country? Protrayed as a "money man"?
"Mr. President, where are all US forces stationed?"
"Gee, I don't know".

By: treehugger7 on 7/11/12 at 7:44

Well said, Darge!

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 7:52

I’ve got more money than anyone. I just can’t remember where it is.

Mitt Romney-

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 7:59

Considering just the two candidates, dargent7, I prefer the one legally eligible for the office. Are you still rooting for the usurper in office?

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 8:00

Here goes Obama again...wanting to extend a portion of the Bush Tax Cuts. I'm sorry, I know I advocate for the middle class, but I firmly believe that the tax cuts need to be eliminated for everyone. Americans need to sacrfice a little and be explained how you don't cut taxes in a recession...and that means everyone.

We need a leader that can tell people the truth...in trying times, we come together as a nation and make sacrifices. The way it is now, and as I said yesterday, this "I want mine" attitude is driving us into the ground.

The tax cuts cost too much. Imagine if we weren't waging wars and paying for these tax cuts...and reformed entitlements...

Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to imply that Washington should actually work...

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 8:08

If Mitt Romney earned his money legally, whose business is it as to where he has it banked?

And it's funny, I haven't heard one question regarding where or how Barack Obama earned his money or where he has it banked.

Is his wealth status in line with his refusing to show any legal papers? You know: Like an official birth certificate, passports, even college papers. Question: Why doesn't he want the idiots who voted for him into office usurpation to see them? Is he afraid they will find him guilty of all of his lies?

By: slacker on 7/11/12 at 8:09

The politicians attending the raid, will soon hear from the Cannibal profiling lobby.. they gotta have their bath salts.

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 8:12

The issue is, yogi, that Romney is stashing money to avoid paying taxes...even though he is the beneficiary of the tax cuts...it seems, if true, to be a tad hypocritical, unethical and quite illegal, don't ya think?

Though, what would be everyone's guess as to how many of the 1% stash their money in offshore accounts for this very reason?

By: bfra on 7/11/12 at 8:22

yogi doesn't care what Romney does, as long as he has a birth certificate.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 8:33

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 6:21
Welcome aboard, dargent7,

You're obviously improving your intelligence by thinking about becoming a Tea Partier.. or Republican at your age in life. But do it before your 50th birthday. You'll be glad you did.

In a foggy state of mind yogi post… oh what am I saying? If there was any fog in yogi’s head, then there would be something there. LOL

If yogi had read the whole story he would have known that it was just not East Nashville.

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 8:35

So in that respect, gdiafarte, what make Romney any different from the rest of us? I've never known of one person in my life that enjoyed paying taxes; and especially ones thinking the more the better, I'm really enjoying it.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 8:37

bfra-

It is not that yogi doesn’t care. It is that yogi doesn’t think. He has nothing to think with.

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 8:40

You are right for once, bfra. I prefer Mitt Romney because he is Constitutionally eligible for that office. Your favorite, Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama, isn't. But you seem to so readily accept someone in that office whom you don't even know if he's an American citizen or not.

Do you call that brilliant... or ignorant? I call it the last word... ignorant.

By: bfra on 7/11/12 at 8:40

yogi - So in that respect, gdiafarte, what make Romney any different from the rest of us? I've never known of one person in my life that enjoyed paying taxes; and especially ones thinking the more the better, I'm really enjoying it.
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This from the idiot that is always 24/7 posting about the President being legal. So Romney can skirt the tax laws and that is ok with you, nitwit?

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 8:43

So, yogi, the strict constitutionalist (lol) doesn't care if citizens break the law and avoid paying taxes. I wonder if he's ever said anything so stupid.

Yes...yes he has.

By: BenDover on 7/11/12 at 8:44

I agree that we should let all the cuts expire or none of them GD. We don't need an increasingly more progressive tax system right now. The economists seem to think that not renewing the tax cuts will be economic bedlam during our current recession though... it's probably more that none of the politicians want to go into the election with a looming tax increase. I think they should probably keep it as is and punt it down the road 6 months or a year and let the next administration/congress deal with tax reform.

If Romney's done something illegal then arrest him. They made all the rules and he played by them. To use the old Democrat stand-by of implying he's broken the law or something is a criminal deception in itself.

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 8:44

You're proving your ignorance more every post you make, dumbo. I have more brain left with my half-brain than you have with that pea sized pod you're using for a brain.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 8:45

You would think that someone who says he is a Patriot to the USA would want the President to pay his share of taxes, but he again I have my doubts that yogi is a Patriot. I think that he is an agent for North Korea.

By: bfra on 7/11/12 at 8:48

Nemo - Even North Korea wouldn't want yogi!

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 8:48

The Dems aren't interesting in having him arrested, they just want enough ammunition to win in November, then all will be forgotten. After all, many Dems are doing the same thing.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 8:49

Prove me wrong, empty head yogi.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 8:50

Budwipe=defamation. That little spot on bud’s backside is her attorney. She had to sit on him to get him to take her case.

It is call freedom of speech, bud. You are always spouting that you have the right to it.

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 8:52

gdiafarte/bfra,

What evidence has been shown to prove Romney has been cheating on his taxes? Is he putting his money in foreign banks or investments to avoid paying taxes on the interest he earns? Is that illegal?

If you, like many others, had millions you could put in foreign banks to avoid paying ridiculous taxes on the interest earned, wouldn't you put that money in those banks?

Do you make special efforts to pay every dollar you feel you owe on your income, or do you make every deduction you can think of to avoid paying one cent more than required? Don't lie, fellers.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 8:55

That is true bfra, which is why they sent him to us. Great plan on their part because he is only good enough for worm food.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 8:58

Maybe if someone turn yogi a little more to the right he would see the other side of the fish bowel.

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 8:59

Freedom of speech in one thing, dumbo, but written or verbal devastation of character is not free speech unless you have proof.

By: Rasputin72 on 7/11/12 at 9:01

I think that curb markets who sell anything harmful to the longevity of their underclass and criminal customers should be given a tax credit.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 9:06

LOL Rasputin

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 8:59
Freedom of speech in one thing, dumbo, but written or verbal devastation of character is not free speech unless you have proof.

Where is your proof dumbo? LOL

By: Rasputin72 on 7/11/12 at 9:07

I do know anyone personally who does not pay what I consider large hunks of their earnings to the federal government. After careful consideration of several comments made today I too have come to the realization that if I paid no federal income tax that I would want the tax cuts to expire for everyone, It would cost me nothing and leave a lot of room for the politicians to keep my vote purchased with more "free stuff"

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 9:07

Yogi, it is illegal to create shell corporations to avoid paying taxes (the primary use of off-shore accounts) and for individuals, hiding money to avoid taxes is generally illegal as well. And yes, the IRS has gone after them.

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 9:11

"free stuff"

Raspy, isn't that what the wealthy are getting already? Isn't that the issue with Romney and offshore accounts?

I guess what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 9:14

FYI

If the Widescarper troll wants to sale she had better do it soon. The city is creating a division of Codes call the Rat Patrol and will be coming to Antioch.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 9:18

GOP definition of Free Stuff; Take the money before the common folk find out.

By: Rasputin72 on 7/11/12 at 9:20

Gdiafante.............You bring up a good point. I probably am a lot closer to what goes on with the wealthy than perhaps you are. I do not know anyone that has an offshore account or anyone who has even thought about doing that. I think that it is a very very small minority of Wall Street sluts who do this offshore business. About 12 years ago I looked deeply at how this works and what are the savings and what are the risks. My research determined that if I could hide my money from the U.S. government then the money did not really exist. What would keep these offshore entities from hiding my money from me. If it disappeared I wonder who you would appeal to.

I think compared to the theft of my money by the 47% who pay no federal income tax these offshore tax shelters are not as prevalent among the wealthy as you think.

Now one of the things that I do see as conversation and some limited action at present is renouncing U.S. citizenship for residency in other countries to avoid the forthcoming taxation of the wealthy to support the underclass.

By: Ummm... on 7/11/12 at 9:21

The holdings whose whereabouts Romney claims he "doesn't know" are in a so-called "blind trust." Of course, this "blind trust" just happens to be managed by one of his best buddies and has made "investments" in one of his children's businesses. Apparently, he will abide by the rules of a "blind trust," as long as it isn't really "blind."
Watching the Teapublicans scramble to defend Romney's blatantly unpatriotic money management (Swiss bank account, etc.) is very entertaining.

By: BigPapa on 7/11/12 at 9:23

I am usually fine with people killing themselves by their own hand, whether it be through cigarettes, liquor, etc.. However, I did read some really bad stuff about these "bath salts", it's pretty nasty stuff, it's not just a mellow buzz of synthetic weed. They are produced with the full intent of being used as a drug, it's not your granmas bath salts.

I see these drugs as being a reaction to the OVER reaction to making weed illegal. IF people could just legally go buy weed, then they wouldn't go buy and ingest crap like this.