Up for Debate: Pre-debating the VP debate

Thursday, October 11, 2012 at 1:23am

What do you expect from the vice presidential debate Thursday night? What might be the main talking points? What might be the weaknesses of each candidate? Who will "win"?

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134 Comments on this post:

By: yogiman on 10/11/12 at 10:33

Of all of the religions on this earth, they all think; I'm right and the others are wrong. May I ask; which one is right? May I ask you to prove it.

You all are condemning Obama because of his religion. Are you really so right? I know, you think you are, but are you? So what makes your religions superior to his?

I don't know about you all, but I do my thinking for myself. I may ask a question, and I'll listen to the answer, but I make my own decision.

The only unquestioned decisions I've accepted in my life were those given to me by my parents and orders from my superiors when I was in service.

If I didn't agree with my "boss'" orders during my civilian employment, I just quit and got another job (it was easy back then because employers needed employees). I guess I was lucky to have employers who would ask for advice before they made a decision.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/11/12 at 10:38

I would agree with that, Mike.

By: Mike Burch on 10/11/12 at 10:41

It's hard for me to imagine Jesus voting for Bishop Romney and Lyin' Ryan, since they seem intent on a "rescue plan for the super-rich" that will leave the poor, the elderly and the sick out in the cold.

While many things about the Bible are debatable, from beginning to end the God of the Bible, the Hebrew prophets, Jesus and the apostles all spoke of the need for people "with" to help the people "without."

The GOP seems as far from Jesus as the east is from the west ...

By: slacker on 10/11/12 at 10:48

Mark 12:17

By: yogiman on 10/11/12 at 10:48

Question: Why is the Communist USA organization supporting Barack Hussein if he's a Christian?

By: yogiman on 10/11/12 at 11:05

Interested in seeing how Obama equates the USA with the Muslim world? Go to


By: Mike Burch on 10/11/12 at 11:08


I agree. Voting for a Republican is the economic equivalent of slitting one's own throat, and those of his/her parents, spouse, children and grandchildren.

How many of our loved ones will retire so wealthy that they will never need a penny the rest of their lives?

The problem with people who support the GOP is that they fail to think about the future and do basic math. Saving a few dollars in taxes today seems absolutely wonderful, but what happens tomorrow?

And Bishop Romney has redefined "middle income" to be families that bring in $200,000 to $250,000 per year. So when he promises not to raise taxes for the "middle income" class, he is excluding not only the 47% (or roughly 150 million Americans). He is also excluding most Americans who don't own businesses.

So it seems that most of the people who vote for Romney can plan on their taxes going up, to make the rich even richer, and their retirement nest eggs going the way of the Dodo.

It seems to me that Bishop Romney is about to do an LBO on the American public, transferring even more wealth to the investor class, while liquidating the jobs and assets of ordinary workers.

By: Loner on 10/11/12 at 11:15

Our federal government is not Bible-based. And it shouldn't be.

The US Constitution provides all the authority that I need to hold the federal government responsible for promoting the general welfare of all US citizens.

The New Deal codified what the baseline of protection, the "safety net" is comprised of. The Great Society programs expanded the idea, as did the Civil Rights Act.

We are a secular and democratic constitutional republic...we are not some Judeo-Christian theocracy........but give it time....Holy Wars Suck.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/11/12 at 11:45


By: Captain Nemo on 10/11/12 at 11:48

Mitt keeps changing what the 47% is. I'm sure by Nov he will have replaced that too.

By: bfra on 10/11/12 at 11:55

Mitt keeps flip-flopping on anything that he thinks will get votes. It is hard to believe some voters are swallowing his lies.

By: Loner on 10/11/12 at 11:58

I just played around with my Word Processor....I centered a 72 point Gothic extra-bold headline above an image and then put the 47% quote below the Image, to produce a snazzy little poster.....i printed some out and will distribute a few...for shitz und giggles, yah.

Here is the big headline: Raus Mitt!

Here is the image:


Here is the quote:

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what."

By: Loner on 10/11/12 at 11:59

Hope you can visualize the poster...I gotta roll...later!

By: Loner on 10/11/12 at 12:03

One more thing, thanks for the kind word, Captain Nemo regarding this iconic image:


By: yogiman on 10/11/12 at 12:58

I'm curious, Mike,

You've commented you're in the 1% group or close to it. If the Republicans are the "one percenters", why are you a Democrat who is supposed to be a "one for all" party?

By: bfra on 10/11/12 at 12:59


By: yogiman on 10/11/12 at 1:10

well, bfra,

You're ridiculing voters for voting on Romney's lies but you seem to think it's OK to vote for Obama's lies. So why is one man's lies more detrimental than the other's?

I don't know about you, but to me a lie is a lie, regardless of who says it. You're simply condemning one and congratulating the other. I guess it just depends on whose doing the lying, huh? By you theme, if it's a Democrat, it's OK. But if it's a Republican, they should be ashamed of themselves.

By: gdiafante on 10/11/12 at 1:13


By: dargent7 on 10/11/12 at 1:16

From San Jose', CA
Took a left turn on I-65 and here's where I ended up.
I'll be like 'Loner" who broadcasts his bullshit from the out- of- towners....
I really think Romney will Nov. 6th.
Give the job to him. Let's see just how brilliant and successful he really is.
He'll start 2 more wars, re-engage in Iraq, continue Afghanistan...
Overturn Roe v. Wade, shudder Planned Parenthood....deny abortion, qualify rape as "consentual intercourse"...Deny welfare benefits, Foodstamps.
It's what 50% of the country wants, or so it seems.

By: bfra on 10/11/12 at 1:23


d7 - Did you take the I-10 exit? LOL Bet the weather is nice in San Jose' but Florida has prettier beaches. IMO Stay safe where ever you are & keep in touch.

By: yogiman on 10/11/12 at 1:25

Keep it up, bfra. I get some great laughs from you. You said, "Mitt keeps flip-flopping on anything that he thinks will get votes. It is hard to believe some voters are swallowing his lies."

Tell me, what is Barry's reasons for telling lies, one word after another, to convince anyone they should vote for him. You know; opening the military up to "open" homosexuals, homosexual is a should be right, the Latinos, the illegal aliens... you name it, they should vote for him, even though he said it different earlier.

By: bfra on 10/11/12 at 1:28


By: yogiman on 10/11/12 at 1:30

Maybe you should drop over to Carmel by the Sea, dargent7. They used to have some great bars over there. Of course I'm talking about 60 years ago.

By: bfra on 10/11/12 at 1:36


By: yogiman on 10/11/12 at 1:40

Well, dargent7, we've seen what Barry could (or should I say couldn't) do. Does anyone except Obama admirers want him to repeat himself?

Or wouldn't it be better to give Romney a try and see if he could bring us out of the pit Barry has put us in? If he doesn't do any better than Barry, it can't be any worse, and you can vote him out after one term, also. And it would really be great to have a man in that office legally.

By: bfra on 10/11/12 at 1:45


By: yogiman on 10/11/12 at 1:57

You all are really a joke. Don't you even know how to turn a switch on or off? Heck, I can't tell if you're turning me on or off. How about letting me know so I'll know whether to put the facts on the table or give you another good joke on Barry.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/11/12 at 2:31


By: Captain Nemo on 10/11/12 at 2:33

So what take you too San Jose d7?

By: yogiman on 10/11/12 at 2:42

He got lost on I-40 when he made he wrong turn. But, hey, dargent7, you went right in front of my old house in Albuquerque dargent7. Was it still there?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/11/12 at 2:47

If d7 made a left of I-65 he must have gone north and made a west bound turn onto I-80. That would take him to San Jose.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/11/12 at 3:06


By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/11/12 at 3:12

indeed, Nemo! lol

By: yogiman on 10/11/12 at 11:29

Well, I'd say Ryan won just by making points after points in an ethics manner, and Biden made an a$$ out of himself. He was deliberately obtrusive. Either he was covering up the Ambassador's murder or ignorant of it, which I don't believe.