Up for Debate: Predators reach end of road

Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 2:15am

With the Nashville Predators' season over, how do you rate their season overall? In hindsight, how do you rate their trade deadline moves as well as the decision to sit Alexander Radulov and Andrei Kostitsyn for disciplinary reasons and then again in Game 4? Can the organization hope to match the level of skill they had this year next season?

115 Comments on this post:

By: Loner on 5/8/12 at 2:20

BTW...it's 4:20 here.

By: gdiafante on 5/8/12 at 2:20

It's clear that Ben doesn't understand the term "cost", even in purely financial terms. Unless he's an advocate for not taking care of veterans once they return home...you know, that socialist program known as the VA.

By: Moonglow1 on 5/8/12 at 2:25

Moonglow1
"govskeptic on 5/8/12 at 10:55
Someone is ill informed on this Sommet Center discussion. That company had
absolutely nothing to do with the Predators or management of anything within
the arena. They had a naming right only for a few yrs for which they paid a fee,
just as Bridgestone does currently which thankfully they can afford to pay! The
city does not get any of that revenue, just like they don't from the naming over
at LP Field."

There has been so much fraud and abuse it is hard to track it all. First the deal with Leopold and the crook, Del Biaggio, then the Sommet Center.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20080730/SPORTS02/807300432/NHL-owners-loans-helped-buy-Predators

http://www.newschannel5.com/global/story.asp?s=12760576

"In November of 2009, the Nashville Predators ended their naming rights deal with the Sommet Group of Tennessee for the team's arena, and they sued the company for failing to pay.

Predators Sue Company, End Naming Deal For Arena

The Nashville Hockey Club Limited Partnership filed the lawsuit in Davidson County Chancery Court accusing the Sommet Group of Tennessee breach of contract under the three-year naming rights agreement reached in 2007.

By: Loner on 5/8/12 at 2:26

Amen, Gd....Ben ought to retract the "one-time cost" claim...no matter how you break down costs.... financial, physical, emotional, physiological, moral...whatever.... the costs of waging war never really go away.

By: Loner on 5/8/12 at 2:32

I should have added environmental costs that linger well after the treaties are signed...but Ben believes that Mother Nature can take a hit; of course, he would not factor in environmental costs.

Every year, Vietnamese people lose extremities due to leftover land mines...relics of the ill-advised and doomed war effort....ask the new amputees about the one-time costs of war.

By: Loner on 5/8/12 at 2:37

BHO just penned an agreement with Karzai in which US aid to Afghanistan will be generous through 2024 and probably beyond.....tens of billions have been pledged.

The US does not do empire very well...treasure is supposed to flow from the conquered states into the conquering state's treasury...we got it ass-backwards.

The Romans understood this...for some strange reason, we just don't seem to get it.

By: BenDover on 5/8/12 at 2:53

Choose to ignore my points if you want guys. The fact is, we will not be spending another $1.3 trillion (loner's number he was so outraged about) on the war in Iraq over the next ten years or anything like it. We are, however, on track to spend more than that amount in deficits every single year of the Barrack Obama presidency.

Rationalizing this away on the intellectual myopia of "he's not Bush" will not keep this from utterly destroying what's left of our country.

For some reason otherwise reasonable people always down-shift into the defend Obama gear every time someone levels a valid criticism about what he is doing and how radically different it is from how the country has survived until now.

Almost $15,000 per year per family in additional debt burden. If he is successful in his bid for re-election we are on track to add $120,000 per family over his 8 short years in office alone. It's ludicrous to believe a nation can survive such a fast burn rate in the aims of expanding on the monster that is already killing us.

By: gdiafante on 5/8/12 at 3:09

Obama blew it on Afghanistan, Loner. We shouldn't be there anymore. Period. To hell with nation building. This is what I speak of when I say Obama isn't much better than Bush.

Of course Ben can't see the trees for the forest. Especially if that means he has to think harsly of his man-crush.

By: Loner on 5/8/12 at 4:01

Ben....the neocons got us into two expensive quagmire -type of holy wars....the lingering costs will be huge...sure, some Democrats signed on to the Iraq War invasion-occupation scheme...all of them on the take to the Israel lobby....and to the Defense and Energy lobbies.

Support for wars fought at Israel's behest is broad, deep and bipartisan....the Israel lobby provides the necessary "good reason" for the wars. Defense and Energy provide the more obscure real reasons....it's a tripartite consortium of selfish interests that overlap in the Middle East.

And the Israelis are not about to let Uncle Sam sit down and take a breather...there's plenty of heavy lifting to be done with respect to regime change and threat neutralization.....Iran is on the hit list and we are ratcheting up the pressure....as the Israel lobby demands.

It's a fee for service arrangement: Congress is now performing the required services for the fees paid by the Defense lobby, the Israel lobby. and the Energy lobby.

In my opinion, true American patriots should not support the agenda of this unholy trinity.

By: BenDover on 5/8/12 at 4:44

You're just distracting from the original point loner. How does it make you feel that Obama's on track to rack up over $100,000 in debt burden for every household in America during the course of his reign?

By: yogiman on 5/8/12 at 4:48

Loner,

I think don't read BenDover referring to physical cost as a comparison with financial cost in the wars.

One life is too damned expensive... unless the instigators volunteer to go to the front lines.

By: Loner on 5/8/12 at 5:23

Ben....I doubt the veracity of your figures. Besides that, Obama was left with a huge financial and economic mess on his hands and two expensive elective wars to deal with.....the Bush tax cuts depleted the treasury at an alarming rate, while Bush accelerated spending astronomically.....Bush and Cheney deserve the lion's share of the blame here...Obama has done a good job in damage control and in restarting the engines of this economy.

Another GOP president would be disastrous at this point in time...we need to recover, before we put another totally incompetent and thoroughly corrupt Republican in the White House....if that chicken-hawk Romney gets in, we may actually get to witness the "End Times" for America....he's a fruitcake.

By: BenDover on 5/8/12 at 5:48

A nice soft pillow you fluff up there for yourself Loner. Check my math.

By: BenDover on 5/8/12 at 5:51

Ran across an old debate where Parnell and Raspy were deriding my friend loner. This is my response:

By BenDover

He's a bit blinded by his biases, as we all are I guess; but my friend Loner loves this country to a high degree; very unusual in today's America. You dismiss the lone one and his prescient polemics; but they are a welcome addition to this debate. Your knee-jerk dismissal of them is a consequence to you not him.

As for substance, Raspy, best I can tell the ball is in your court not Loner's. Your head seems to be screwed on right but you don't get past first base yet in sharing your opinions in a way that can engage someone not already on your team.

By: Loner on 5/8/12 at 6:20

Well.....what can i say....enough of the pillow fight, Ben...and thank you for the kind words....and I must state that you are probably the leader of the pack on the right, here on this NCP platform.....the Rasp does seem to be one-dimensional...could be that he's yankin' our chains.....Parnell is an occasional pest, nothing serious.

I wish that John Galt would post more often...you need cogent cohorts, Ben.