Up for Debate: Ramsey on taxing savings

Tuesday, November 27, 2012 at 11:45pm

Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey told reporters Tuesday he'd back the governor's plan to cut the "grocery tax" but would rather cut a bigger slice out of the tax retirement savings. Ramsey called it “blatantly unfair” that the state taxes people who save for retirement. What are your thoughts on the taxes, the proposed plans to cut them and Ramsey's statement?


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By: Loner on 11/28/12 at 9:23

Ben sez: "Bush was an excellent president." Reminds me of Dustin Hoffman's character in the movie, "Rain Man"...."I'm an excellent driver."

George W. Bush's biggest faults were letting the minimum wage increase and his inability to defend himself from detractors...according to his loyal fan, Ben Dover.

Yeah, under "W" working people on the bottom rung of the ladder got a slight boost...how terrible.

Poor Bush, he could not defend himself against charges that he stole the election to begin with.....was asleep at the wheel on 9-11....initiated two unnecessary and hugely expensive elective wars...then crashed the economy as he was leaving office....According to Ben Dover, these are trumped-up charges...minor items that Bush could and should have easily dealt with and overcome....yeah, right.

Even the Republican leadership realizes that "W" blew the job...he's a pariah.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/28/12 at 9:24

That is true, g. Latinos tend to be very Catholic and socially conservative. But they'll vote for a Dem before they vote for the "self-deport" crowd that demonizes them at every move. And I'm not talking about "illegals" - I'm talking about 2nd, 3rd, 4th generation Latinos. Remember, in the Southwest, many Latino families were here before that area was the United States and now they're being called into question and put through unnecessary scrutiny. How insulting.

By: gdiafante on 11/28/12 at 9:26

The GOP will have to abandon that crowd, blanket. They'll have to abandon the racist wing that is controlling it to this point. Until they can do that, they'll lose.

By: dargent7 on 11/28/12 at 9:29

The current "new and improved" GOP Committee make- up:
All male and all white.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/28/12 at 9:29

I agree with you, g.

By: Loner on 11/28/12 at 9:33

Not all immigrants who speak Spanish are of the liberal mindset...the Cubans who fled Castro are a very right-wing faction...Rep. Ileana Ros Lehtinen (R-FL) is a product of that narrow demographic...she chairs the House Foreign Affairs Committee..her maternal grandparents were Sephardic Jews....she is a huge, huge fan of the Jewish State.

Ros Lehtinen raked in $162,485 from the Israel lobby in just this past election cycle.....the Israel lobby is her top sponsor....she's a de facto Israeli agent.....check this out here:


By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/28/12 at 9:35

Yes, Cubans usually are Republican. But remember that Cubans and Mexicans do not get along and Mexicans will be hesitant to vote for a Cuban.

By: gdiafante on 11/28/12 at 9:35

Yeah darge, we haven't even began to deal with the GOP's problem with women...boy...they have issues.

By: budlight on 11/28/12 at 9:36

Blanketnazi2 on 11/28/12 at 8:54
The moderates went for Obama due to several reasons - not because of one commercial with Bill Clinton in it. Do you realize the reasons or are you going to be like yogi and require a list? It should be pretty obvious by now.

Yes, Blanket send me the list.

By: yogiman on 11/28/12 at 9:36

Okay, gdiafante,

If you are interested, I'll see if I can get through that feeble pellet you have in your skull.

Read Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 5 of the Constitution: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

Simple requirements, isn't it. Hell, you don't even have to be a grade school graduate, you just need to be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN who is 35 years old and lived in the US for 14 years.

Now, perhaps one of you 'Obama' fans can explain why Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama refuses to prove those facts.

By: gdiafante on 11/28/12 at 9:49

Wrong yogi. The Constitution doesn't define natural born citizen, it only requires it. See U.S. Code 1408 for definition and then report back. Thanks.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/28/12 at 10:02

1. Romney was a horrible candidate
2. Republicans pandering to extremists
3. Demographic shifts
4. No clear plan on economics

By: BenDover on 11/28/12 at 10:07

He didn't run against Romney he ran against Bush... (again) and since no one has bothered to correct the history that's how he won.

By: yogiman on 11/28/12 at 10:08


Just a few facts Obama gave in his autobiography (in case you haven't read it)

1. His father was a British subject of Kenya. His mother was an American citizen (whose name and citizenship did you get at birth; you father's, or your mother's?)

If his parents were ever married (no records known or seen), she "divorced" his father and married Lolo Soetoro of Indonesia. Indonesia would not accept a dual citizen child in their school system.

Lolo Soetoro offered to adopt him so he could go to school. He, thus, became Barry Soetoro and went to school. At age 10, his mother divorced his stepfather and sent him to Hawaii for his maternal grandparents to raise him (why did she abandon him?).

Frank Marshall Davis was a highly recorded communist of the FBI records and his grandparents (who were known communists) were old friends. The got Davis to mentor Barry into communism for 8 years until he [left home] for school (don't you think he learned a little?).

So tell me, bfra, born to a British subject and later became an Indonesian citizen, where did he earn his [natural born citizen] status?

Plus, has he ever repatriated his citizenship? Has he ever changed his name back to Barack Hussein Obama?

What? You don't know? Yet you are so willing to accept the thought. Gimme a break, kid.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/28/12 at 10:08

Ben, put down the crackpipe! LOL

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/28/12 at 10:09

Ben, you're the one who asks the liberals to quit blaming Bush but you're blaming him for Romney losing! That's funny stuff!

By: Rasputin72 on 11/28/12 at 10:15

Obama won the election because the majority of Americans are either part of the 47% or they are making less than 60,000 dollars a year. Obama represented in entitlements what their talents did not allow. Obviously it is difficult fpr one to place blame for not meeting their own expectations. When Obama said that "the successful people are responsible for your lot in life the masses went for it.

Nothing wrong with being motivated by someone apologizing for your own shortcomings.

For example Nemo thinks all math is singular and vertical. He won't understand that but if he had listened more closely in the 4th grade he would know what that means.

Off to more of the good life.

By: gdiafante on 11/28/12 at 10:16

Read the law yogi. That's the only thing that matters. I made it simple for you, I gave you the specific law you need.

By: gdiafante on 11/28/12 at 10:19

No Ben's right. Romney was simply regurgitating the same policy that f**ked us up in the first place, with a few even more ridiculous items, such as self-deportation. Even the nutjob Trump thought that was stupid.

Thankfully, it's all moot now because the majority saw through his BS.

By: gdiafante on 11/28/12 at 10:21

Obama represented in entitlements what their talents did not allow.

You're as delusional as Ben. Keep repeating the myth, maybe one day it will become fact...just not this day...just not this time.

By: BenDover on 11/28/12 at 10:26

It's not my premises that are flawed gd.

By: yogiman on 11/28/12 at 10:27

Dr. King wasn't wearing a crown, B2. He simply took a step in trying to make all men equal.

Did you live when there was such segregation of the people simply because of their race? Can you imagine what the black Americans felt in those days? Then you have no idea what it was like.

By: budlight on 11/28/12 at 10:30

Blanketnazi2 on 11/28/12 at 10:02
1. Romney was a horrible candidate
2. Republicans pandering to extremists
3. Demographic shifts
4. No clear plan on economics

Send me a list of Obama's accomplishments that got him re-elected. Besides pulling the wool over every liberal's eyes.

By: gdiafante on 11/28/12 at 10:32

Yes, they are, Ben. And I'm not the only one who can see it.

Personally, I don't care, as long as you and your idiot party continue to believe that, you'll stay out of power, and that's the best place for you and America.

By: gdiafante on 11/28/12 at 10:37

You have to spell it out for bud, Blanket. For someone with "light" in their name, she's pretty dim.

By: Loner on 11/28/12 at 10:39

Same old BS. Bickering. Sniping.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/28/12 at 10:43

Damn, g. She is dim. bud - google it yourself. It's out there. I'm tired of doing your homework for you.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/28/12 at 10:45

g, I agree. It's this sort of ignorant ranting that drives the Independent moderates away from the GOP and is rushing their demise. Let them rant! It's a small price to pay, overall.

By: brrrrk on 11/28/12 at 10:47

Interesting fact about the Waltons....

The Walton family has given away about 2 percent of its net worth to charity - Bill Gates is giving away 48 percent of his net worth and Warren Buffet 78 percent of his net worth.

By: yogiman on 11/28/12 at 10:50


If you don't give a good Goddamn about me, why did you bring the subject up? I thought you had a [feeble] inquisitive mind and thought I would courteously educate you with the knowledge you wished you had.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/28/12 at 10:51


By: slacker on 11/28/12 at 10:51

brrrrk so true. John Boy always struck me as being a bit chintzy.

By: brrrrk on 11/28/12 at 10:53

And what does this tell us?

An additional Walmart Supercenter per 100,000 residents increases average BMI (body mass index) by 0.25 units and the obesity rate by 2.4 percent.

By: gdiafante on 11/28/12 at 10:54

Idiot...you posted the information regarding your enlistment in response to Loner. See your 7:28 post.

It's remarkable how dumb that man is.

By: brrrrk on 11/28/12 at 10:57

gdiafante said

It's remarkable how dumb that man is.

"He was endowed with a stupidity which by the least little stretch would go around the globe four times and tie." - Mark Twain

By: bfra on 11/28/12 at 10:57

gdiafante - yogi will just change the subject to some more nonessential BS!

By: slacker on 11/28/12 at 10:58

One of these days the govt. will wise up and legalize marijuana. Sell it in liquor stores, and tax accordingly.
Tax church structures, over a certain square footage. These taxes along would probably, eliminate taxes on food.

By: slacker on 11/28/12 at 11:02

Tax yogi's repetitive posts.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/28/12 at 11:03

That's one good way to balance the budget!

By: slacker on 11/28/12 at 11:04

Raise taxes on Taxi Dancers.

By: yogiman on 11/28/12 at 11:08


If Bush did such a lousy financial job in office, isn't Barry to playing copycat?

As a man with your intelligence(?), I'm sure you can explain how he has more than doubled the debt he inherited and has been going constantly deeper in the hole since usurpation of office.

When he reaches his point financially, he will take over as dictator. At least, he'll try.
Why do you think he initiated that "civilian" army when he went in office? What was that unit Adolph had? Weren't the civilians?

His first move after this [re-election] was trying to go through the UN for gun control. Look what happened to England, Canada and Australia when they instituted gun control.

Tell me, do any of you Obama fans want your children, grandchildren and heirs down the line living in a communist nation? I sure as hell don't and will do whatever I can to stop it.

By: bfra on 11/28/12 at 11:10

yogi should be taxed on the air he breathes. He abuses the privilege.

By: brrrrk on 11/28/12 at 11:15

Yogi reminds me of my brother who graduated from Liberty University... he's still dumb as a rock, but now with certainty... :-)

By: dargent7 on 11/28/12 at 11:17

It's generally a toss up which action is better: stick your finger in a light socket or address any of yogi's posts...
Obama's dad was Kenyan born.. His mother was born in Kansas.
Romney's dad and grandad were born in Mexico. How's that fact mke them, "natural born citizens", thereby bestowing the title on Willard?
Obama was born in Hawai'i and Romney was in Detroit. Born on USA soil. McCain got a pass being born in the Panama Canal Zone "during war time.
That's all there is to it.
As far as the name change...it's irrelevant.
Mitt was born Willard. Obama was born Barack, changed it to Barry, then back to barack.
Marco Rubio is a favorite for the 2016 election. Both his parents were illegals from Cuba.
How's he a "natural born citizen" of the USA if both parents are foreign nationals?
You have a lot of explaining to do, yogi.

By: brrrrk on 11/28/12 at 11:18

Bzzzzz, bzzzzz, bzzzzzzzzz........

You're right darg... the light socket is much better.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/28/12 at 11:20

LOL, brrrrk!

By: slacker on 11/28/12 at 11:21

But are ''natural born killers'' eligible?

By: slacker on 11/28/12 at 11:23

Woody Harrelson for Preez..

By: slacker on 11/28/12 at 11:25

brrrrk for president Of Poland.

By: brrrrk on 11/28/12 at 11:25

slacker said

"But are 'natural born killers' eligible?"

Yes, as long as they aren't "abortionists".... everything else is fair game.