Up for Debate: Redeveloping James A. Cayce homes

Thursday, February 21, 2013 at 1:45am

In redeveloping the James A. Cayce homes, could refurbishing suffice or is rebuilding the only logical way to go?

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By: Loner on 2/21/13 at 5:52

Good morning, Nashville.

In redeveloping the James A. Cayce homes, could refurbishing suffice or is rebuilding the only logical way to go?

If I knew the answer to that, I'd probably be too arrogant and uppity to post on a site like this....and the reply would be expensive, wordy, boring and biased....as it is, I simply have no idea if it is economically more feasible to rehab the structures, or if it is more practical and wiser to raze and rebuild....that's beyond my pay grade.

Once again, follow the money....this sounds like another sweetheart deal....Nashville is Home to the Sweetheart Deal.

By: gdiafante on 2/21/13 at 6:31

Either way it's going to be expensive for everyone and inconvenient for those living there.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/21/13 at 6:48

Anytime they rebuild a blighted area such as Cayce, the out come is could. The bad guys
get kick out and decent people have a chance for a better life.

Now I'm sure the jerk Rasputin will disagree, but he is a ass.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/21/13 at 7:28

I agree, Captain. The public housing along Charlotte and the housing in East Nashville that were replaced with the Hope Project funding in the 90's was a success.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/21/13 at 7:30

There are certain benefits such as those who don't belong there are kicked out and the housing is replaced with more energy efficient units. The neighborhood overall benefits. I think it is worth the investment.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/21/13 at 7:33


Here's a little info.....

By: Rasputin72 on 2/21/13 at 7:47

I must defer this question to the Simple Six.

I am sure they know more about the wants and needs of underclass culture.

By: gdiafante on 2/21/13 at 7:52

Yes, because enlightened, productive individuals haven't a clue about cost effectiveness. lol

More proof that the "72" in Raspy's name is likely his IQ (or waist size).

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/21/13 at 8:01

Probably both, g.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/21/13 at 8:16


It is Raspy mentally equal brain power that keeps him from understand big things.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/21/13 at 8:17

Right on both accounts g.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/21/13 at 8:22

I believe that efforts are being made to create community gardens within public housing areas as well. That will help provide healthy food to people who may live in an urban food desert.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/21/13 at 8:24

Loner, this projects has they are called, comes close to being a Ghetto, has our silly monk would say. What will replace them are individual homes and there are no drugs or gains members in this places. The city has so far keep the trash and Raspy likes out of the one now built.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/21/13 at 8:25


By: Captain Nemo on 2/21/13 at 8:27

That is right, Blanket. You can see John Henry Hale garden from I-40

By: Captain Nemo on 2/21/13 at 8:29

Don"t forget,yogi. I am smarter than you so when any of the others tell you that you don't no anything.....pay attention to them.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/21/13 at 8:30

Creating decent housing with modern energy efficiencies and food gardens will save money in the long run and create a better living situation. But of course, there are those who would rather punish the poor than to make decisions based on logic and cost savings.

By: slacker on 2/21/13 at 8:52

While in one of his famous trances.. The Amazing Edgar.. James A. Cayce's brother.. predicted Metro would go with the most expensive option. Edger also predicted a new, big arsed convention center.

By: yogiman on 2/21/13 at 9:15

Thanks for the joke, dumba$$. You just gave me a good laugh for the day. Now another cup of coffee and I'll bring you 'upper' to date on your man Barry.

By: gdiafante on 2/21/13 at 9:16

For that prediction alone, they should rename it the James and Edgar Cayce Memorial Crack Homes and Community Gardens.

By: BigPapa on 2/21/13 at 9:17

Rather than rebuild, I say we take the cost of refurbishment, give the cash to the current residents on the condition that they each purchase a home in either Wilson, Wmson, or Sumner Co.

We tear down the projects and sell the land to the highest bidder.
Two birds- one stone

By: gdiafante on 2/21/13 at 9:20

Yeah, can you imagine any one of them being able to live in Williamson County...lol

By: .45carry on 2/21/13 at 9:20

In the early 90's, my company did some extensive work on the Cayce homes, along with Cheatham Place and the John Henry Hale homes. We were told, under no uncertain terms, to leave the premises no later than 4:00pm any day our crews were working there. According to the maintenance crew that worked at Cayce full-time, it just wasn't safe after 4:00pm. Maybe a complete rebuild would facilitate a safer environment for the residents.

By: yogiman on 2/21/13 at 9:37

To give you a good start for the day, dumba$$, go to: www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULRxw/ where your man Barry makes fun of the Bible.

After you enjoy that one, go to: www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE9mZCRX2mg/ where your man Barry describes the Muslim in his own words.


By: slacker on 2/21/13 at 10:06

My plan would be: this spring, evacuate the occupants, place a double-wide trailer in the middle of the complex, a tornado will be along shortly to clear the site.
Drug paraphernalia scattered into neighboring counties, would fall under the ''finders keepers'' rule.

By: yogiman on 2/21/13 at 10:12

On down the line now:

22. Obama gave a 2009 Cairo speech emphatically stating to the Middle Eastern world that it was "part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear." (is it?)
23. When it comes to Christianity, he has actually done just the opposite. Two years after his interview with Chicago Sun Times religion reporter Cathleen Falsani, on June 28, 2006, then Senator Obama publicly perpetuated negative stereotypes of Christianity and defamed the religion and the words of its founder. From the pulpit of a church, speaking to a live audience about religious diversity, Obama sarcastically belittled America's Judeo-Christian heritage and degraded its adherents with tripe remarks typical of any atheistic antagonist, saying things like: "Whatever we were, we are no longer a Christian nation. The Sermon on the Mount is a passage that is so radical that our own defense department wouldn't survive its application, and to base our policy making upon such commitments as moral absolutes would be a dangerous thing."
24. If a self-proclaimed non-Muslim president would fight repeatedly for Muslims' religious rights to the degree that our president has, don't you think, a "committed Christian" president would at least fight once for any antagonistic oppression of Christian faith and practice, too? Yet, on no occasion since taking office has President Obama stood up publicly for a single Christian individual group, church, act or event, whom or which was being opposed or oppressed by others.
25. Why didn't the president stand up for the rights of the North Carolina pastor who was fired from his duties as an honorary chaplain of the state house of representatives after he closed a prayer "in the name of Jesus"?
26. Why didn't the president stand up for the children from the Christian private school who were "abruptly" ordered by a court police officer to stop praying outside the U.S. Supreme Court building?
27. Why didn't the president himself stand up for the human rights of the Christian missionaries and medical team in Afghanistan, including six American, to practice medicine and their faith, even after they were murdered by Islamic extremists?
28. Why didn't the president stand up for the rights of the Rev. Franklin Graham, the son of the Rev. Billie Graham, who was 'disinvited' from a Pentagon prayer service on the National Day of Prayer because of his Christian vies and values?
29. Why didn't the president stand up for the rights of the Greek Orthodox Church, the only church that was actually in the Sept. 11 attacks, as church leaders have been frustrated and fouled by New York officials who have virtually turned their backs on the reconstruction of the church near Ground Zero?

Hing in there. More to come.

By: gdiafante on 2/21/13 at 10:21

Oh look, the litte retard can copy and paste...aww....

By: bfra on 2/21/13 at 10:22

What are the ones on Lafayette named? I am not familiar with the Cayce homes but if they are any worse that the ones on Lafayette (or Murf. Rd.), they have got to be pretty bad.

By: bfra on 2/21/13 at 10:24

g - He doesn't have enough sense to be a retard, more like a leotard, with a run up the leg, where he pees on himself all the time. Stinks too from the dirty diaper!

By: budlight on 2/21/13 at 10:27

45carry, i hear what you are saying. I did surveys for the US Census Bureau for 3 years. I went there - over 60 white female - and the residents I interviewed were very nice and cooperative. BUT they told me, "do not come here after 5 p.m. no matter what your boss says". I heeded their advice. Honestly when I was there and also at the homes on 8th avenue, I never saw or had any problems.

In 1965/66, my grandfather lost his job at the cotton mill after 50 years or more. He then lost his land and his home in Danville VA and he and my grandmother moved into government housing, AKA the projects. When they lived there, it was extremely strick. They were inspected regularly, the outside and inside had to be kept very clean and presentable. Of course, now it's everyone's civil right to trash their neighborhood if they want to.

Some of the people had a real pride of ownership and their place was immaculate and others were pigs and trashed their place. But that is true in any neighborhood. There's always at least one yard that is junked up and the people don't care. On my street, we have 2 such places. One property is now abandoned because it was a meth house.

Enough from me. If they do something with these homes, I hope it's refurbish. Otherwise they will want to buy up more land in Antioch and move everyone here. The street my friend lives on near Priest Lake was inundated with Section 8 rentals. It is amazing how the neighborhood changed -- for the worse.

By: gdiafante on 2/21/13 at 10:36

Bud is right, it's always NIMBY. That's why relocation would be destined to fail. Especially in the higher end counties, like Williamson. No way that would ever be allowed to happen.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/21/13 at 10:39

yogi you are the joke. I had nothing to do with it.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/21/13 at 10:41

bfra, I was trying to remember the name of the housing area too. They are in bad shape too.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/21/13 at 10:43

OK, the name of the ones on Murfreesboro Road are Napier Place.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/21/13 at 10:44

.45carry I agree with about J H Hale and Cayce, but I found Cheatham Place to be a much safer place.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/21/13 at 10:48

Now that is strange that the retard can copy and paste when he wants to, but when we ask him to show evidence to one of his outrageous post, he doesn''t have the skill.

By: bfra on 2/21/13 at 10:50

Blanket - Just from driving by Napier, I would be very hesitant of even driving thru that area, off the main road.. If any place needs some updating done, it has to be there.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/21/13 at 10:52

I agree, bfra. I don't understand why that one seems to be at the bottom of the list.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/21/13 at 10:53

With the revitalization of the area around Cameron I'm surprised the Napier Place homes are not on the list.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/21/13 at 10:55

Napier is a dangerous place. Does Lewis Street sound familiar to you?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/21/13 at 10:56

Lewis Street is in that area, right?

By: Captain Nemo on 2/21/13 at 10:57

When there is a shoot or killing in Napier, it is on Lewis Street.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/21/13 at 11:00

Yeah, that street does end up on the news quite often.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/21/13 at 11:05

I don't know why it is.

By: govskeptic on 2/21/13 at 11:13

Attractive fencing and limited entrances and exits on these newer developments
helps a great deal, I'm sure, on a part of the problems within any subsidized housing.
We still have a few developments that date back to the earliest yrs of public housing.

By: bfra on 2/21/13 at 11:19

gov. - Wouldn't Napier be one of those?

By: yogiman on 2/21/13 at 11:21

All I am showing are postings of things Barry did, or said. And questions that have been asked regarding his 'do' or 'not do' instances. Blame your man Barry for his actions, not me. I didn't tell him to do them.

30. Why didn't the president stand up for the rights of over 70% of Americans opposed to a Ground Zero mosgue, but takes the side of the Muslims who are attempting to build the Ground Zero mosgue?
31. Obama's church (Trinity United Church of Christ) does not teach Christianity. The church's guiding principle are called the "Black Value System". Rev. Jeremiah Wright is a former Muslim and friend of Louis Farrakhan; the Muslim founder and President of the Nation of Islam. Farrakhan has spoken frequently at Trinity.
32. Rev. Wright's "hate" sermons against America and white people are virtually identical as Farrakhan's who followed Malcom X. Wright's "hate" speeches are a blend of the Nation of Islam and Black Nationalist Liberation Theology into a subversive Christianity, not recognized by more black Christians.
33. Obama embraced "Christianity" at this church for 20 years. He was a member and good friend to Rev. Wright. Rev. Wright married Obama and baptized his children. Rev. Wright was his mentor and gave advice until it became public knowledge during the campaign.
34. During the 14-18 week of Jan. 2010, on the Nile broadcast "Round Table Show", the Egyptian Foreign Minister, Abul Gheit, said while meeting with Obama, Obama swore to him that he was a Muslim and that he was loyal to the Muslim agenda. He asked that the Muslim world show patience. Obama promised that once he overcame some domestic American problems that he would show the Muslim world what he would do with Israel.

Take 'um or ignore 'um. You can either cheer or cry when the end of Obama's goal for America comes . I guess it'll depend on whose side you're on.

By: BenDover on 2/21/13 at 11:25

They could just build a big fence around it... let the few who are not criminals out and use the cost savings from not building another new jail to buy inexpensive unoccupied houses for the families displaced all throughout the rest of the city.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/21/13 at 11:25

I use to work at the Tennessean part time years ago. I would fill in on routes that was down and I would make redelivery if the customer did not get their paper. I got to know some of the people and they were very nice people. I said that the bad people go in at daylight and the good people then came out.

I would wait til after daylight to deliver the paper at John Henry Hale. Cheatham Place was entirely different. I could go in there anytime of the day or night and not feel threaten.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/21/13 at 11:27

Ben that is so yogi...ish.