Up for Debate: Report says U.S. mines Internet data

Friday, June 7, 2013 at 2:45am

The Washington Post reports that U.S. intelligence has mined data directly from Internet companies' servers. Is that a proper use of authority? Should the government be allowed to continue such practice?

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By: budlight on 6/7/13 at 11:54

Yes and D7 he's having all kinds of "secret" meetings with Chinease and North Koreans. Interesting. Bet no one is bugging those meetings.

He likes for all of us to be transparent while he is, as you say, "very tall and skinny . . . . appears to be black, too". Yes, he as opaque as they come. Can't see through shoot, can you?

By: Jughead on 6/7/13 at 11:56

Obama and Holder are criminals. But, the libtards will still root for him.

And, the same libtards say Nixon was bad---sheesh. Obama's crimes DWARF any other president.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/7/13 at 11:57

11:53 stupid yogi.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/7/13 at 11:59

Lunch time is over you bioch. BTW what is a bioch?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 12:07

bud, I post facts and when you post gossip or lies and I call you out that doesn't make me "holier than thou" but it sure makes me smarter than you! And you can't handle that.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 12:10

Why look - bud & yogi's illegitimate son Juggy has shown up. Huevos rancheros!

By: pswindle on 6/7/13 at 12:12

President Obama took the oath to protect us. Time has changed with so much data at your fingertips that you have to go where the data is coming from. I understand this, a republicans said that this data has stopped many attacks inside the homeland. Do you want us safe or do you want to belly-ache about everything that this President does? He has cleaned up the messed that Bush created , and our rights are more protected.

By: budlight on 6/7/13 at 12:14

Sure I can handle it. There are millions of people smarter than I. And smarter than thou. But you think you're smarter than everyone. You gossip also. When you are speaking ill of me or others, you are gossiping and slandering. Or aren't you smart enough to figure that out. I'm only a high school graduate. I know WHO and what I am. But do you know who and what you are? Apparently you are more grandiose than us all. Have a nice day. Think I'll go to work. It's more exciting than this board.

By the way, I don't believe the WH has the right to invade the privacy of millions through the internet, phone systems, medical records or other means. But apparently they think so. While all this is being stirred up in the airways, Obama is holding secret meetings.

Capt. It's a brioch with the R taken out. ha, ha, ha. You figure it out. You're so smart. Or else, just sit down and be quiet, Your screeching is hurting people's ears.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 12:15

Come on, pswindle. You know they just want to whine! None of them complained when the Patriot Act came about under the Bush administration.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 12:18

bud, only you half brain idiots think I act "grandiose." The rest know I post facts whether they agree with them or not. You post rumors and things you read in chain emails. BTW, when presidents have meetings with international figures they are not publically broadcasted. Not with Obama and not with any president previous to him. They're not "secret meetings." More chain mail crap from you!

By: dargent7 on 6/7/13 at 12:19

Bud: Obama's in Santa Monica tonight, then Obama's meeting with the Prime Minister of China in Palm Springs this weekend. There's nothing "secret" about it. Maybe the Emperor flew in for a quick game of golf?
He (Obama) was in San Jose' to talk about the Afordable Care Act, ie., ObamaCare. You imbiciles (Republicans) really want America to deny medical coverage to sick Americans?
Do you nit-wits read any other newspapers other than TCP?
You can "stream" FOX News, MSNBC, CNN...anything live.
Read USA Today or The NYT, Washington Post.
Broaden yourself.

By: budlight on 6/7/13 at 12:28

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 1:10
Why look - bud & yogi's illegitimate son Juggy has shown up. Huevos rancheros!

Nope; couldn't have kids. Thank God. I might have ended up with a kid like you. How do I know they are facts just because you SAY SO. I erase chain emails; don't even open them.

The Patriot Act is being taken too far. Let me know when they investigate you, Blank. I'm sure you'll be happy about that. You're gonna scream like a stuck pig when they do. You libs are the first ones to cry foul when it happens to you.

OK, I'm out of here. No more fun for today. Going to work. Ahhh! work! Such fun. D7 by secret I mean, they are cooking up more stuff.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 12:31

So you can't tell legitimate information from conspiracy? I can't help you with that! Apparently you and yogi have no critical thinking skills.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 12:32

How's life in CA, dargent?

By: yogiman on 6/7/13 at 12:41

So, if Barry was born in Hawaii like he claims (after claiming he was born in Kenya) he is a natural born citizen with a father who was a British subject.

Has the laws been changed that gives him natural born status rather than dual-citizenship status?

So if that is the case, then any of foreign women can come to the USA as a illegal alien, have a baby born as a natural born American citizen, take that baby back to her home country and raise that baby for 20 years. Then that baby can come back to the USA , live here for 15 years (to reach the age of 35) and become president of the USA.

I imagine our founders are rolling over in there graves?

But the point, B2, he refuses to prove he was born in Hawaii. Why? Since the current governor of Hawaii was a personal friend of his grandparents he stated he would produce Barry's birth certificate the minute he went in the office after he had won the election. I understand he did try, but he has not been able to produce it. Why? Isn't it in that health department? Or could it [just possibly] be in the health department in Kenya?

I'll continue my argument you don't actually know who in the hell this guy is. And the fact he refuses to identify himself should scare the hell out of you.

By: budlight on 6/7/13 at 12:45

One more comment. Yes, I know the difference. No, I do not need YOUR help; if I do, I will ask for it as I have in the past. And I do have critical thinking skills. You just had to say that, didn't you? You don't have a heart. I'd rather have a heart than be cold as stone any day.

D7 said earlier that he's moving to San Diego. D7, I was born in Mercy Hospital. And lived on 5th Avenue near Balboa Park. Let me know if it's still nice or deteriorated. I used to go to a little village close to there, sort of like Hillsboro Village, but can't recall the name of it. Hillside or something like that.

Is the Villa Rosalee still in Old Town? Or La Maison dePescado still at OB? I don't really like San Diego all that much but had good friends there. Too many people trying to sell some type of religion when I was there. One primary preacher was the Rev. Terry Cole Whittaker, always selling something.

By: budlight on 6/7/13 at 12:48

oh wow! I found her on the net:
"Terry Cole-Whittaker, or Dr. Terry, is a New Thought writer and United Church of Religious Science minister,[1] and the founder of Terry Cole-Whittaker Ministries and Adventures in Enlightenment."

Used to go to her meetings in SD every Friday morning. Lots of power at those meetings if you are into the prosperity (stuff) gospel.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 12:57

yogi, it's been proven time and again that he was born in HI. There is a birth certificate and there were announcements in the newspaper. You're gullible and you fall for the conspiracy crap. Since he was born in the U.S. it makes him a natural born citizen. Why do you think people get mad when some Mexican people come to the U.S. illegally and have children (whom they call "anchor babies)? Everyone except for you seems to understand that simple concept.

By: yogiman on 6/7/13 at 12:57

Facts are facts, B2, and for you to say you know who Barry is proves facts don't mean much to you since you don't wonder why he won't identify himself.

But look back in history where the old saying "time will tell" has proved many people wrong in their arguments. It bothers me that congress has never raised the question but time will tell on Barry. It makes me wonder how he "pulled it off" so fast. He went from the 'ground floor' to over the roof like he jumped off of a diving board.

Congress questioned John McCain but didn't question Barack Obama, why? Doesn't that make you wonder? It sure does me.

If they determined McCain was eligible because both of his parents were American citizens, how could they decide Obama was eligible with only his mother an American citizen?

Don't you get your citizenship through your father?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 1:01

No, you do not get your citizenship from your father. I have no idea where you dreamed that up. Obama was already vetted when he ran for Senate for IL.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 1:03

See, that goes to show how little you truly understand if you believe that your citizenship comes from your father.

By: yogiman on 6/7/13 at 1:07

It's fascinating, B2, you say you post facts. Facts to who/ You? Where did you get the "fact" Obama was born in Hawaii and was "in fact" a natural born American citizen? I'm like to read that "fact".

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 1:13

yogi, it's like Rain Man with you. I can't count how many times I and others have posted links to his birth certificate and newspaper articles that announced his birth. Did those memories fall out of your half brain too? No matter how you slice it, he is in office legally. He was not born in Kenya, his father didn't have to be a citizen in order for him to be one, HI was a state at the time......none of your "proof" disqualifies him.

By: yogiman on 6/7/13 at 1:20


If he was born in Hawaii, why won't the hospital he claims to have been born in acknowledge he was born there for the free advertisement?

If you have the facts, B2, can you also explain why his birth certificate number is a higher number than the numbers of the twins born at the hospital he claims to have been born in the day after he was supposedly born there?

I hope, when the 'facts' are brought out, I'm still living. I can't wait for a hellava laugh at y'all.

By: Jughead on 6/7/13 at 1:20

It is unbelievable that you liberals do not condemn MASSIVE secret spying by the White House. Or, using the IRS to quell speech. You f*&^ckers are modern-day Hitlers.

Sick, disgusting pukes. Liberals.

By: Jughead on 6/7/13 at 1:23

Obama NEVER produced his long-form certificate, and the Hawaain short form is clearly altered.

And, Obama paid someone to offer a lame excuse as to explain the alteration.

I get it--liberals don't give a damn about the Constitution. Why not be intellectually honest and simply say you do not care and you want Hussein anyways?

Friggin dishonest piles of vomit. Liberals.

By: yogiman on 6/7/13 at 1:25

Okay, B2,

Explain how Barry regained his natural born citizenship status back after he lost it through his adoption by his Indonesian stepfather. Has he even become a naturalized citizen after his mother sent him to his grandparents? Has he ever officially changed his name from
Barry Soetoro back to Barack Hussein Obama?

Please give me the facts.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 1:25

yogi, each island had a different set of number sequences. Someone born at 10 a.m. may not have the same sequence of numbers as someone born on another island at 11 a.m. This has been explained to you before as well. No hospital goes for "free advertising" because a president was born there decades ago.

Jug, it's amazing you are not defending the spying sinse those of your ilk are the ones who designed the Patriot Act. Oh wait - it was OK for Bush but it's a "modern-day Hitler" if it happens under Obama's administration. BTW, you do know who supported it in Congress, right??????

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 1:27

yogi, I can do this all day long but I'm really getting bored giving you the same damn information day in and day out. You and Jug are the idiots who believe the conspiracy theorists who make money every time you click on their sites. You've been duped and you still believe it when shown otherwise.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/7/13 at 2:17

No wonder budlight can keep a job, she is goofing off on the job. 1:14 to 1:48.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/7/13 at 2:19

Stupid yogi.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/7/13 at 2:21

If God was to put in Stone, that Obama was born in The US of A, yogi would want to see more evidence.

Stupid yogi.

By: yogiman on 6/7/13 at 2:33

Don't just give me information from your knowledge, B2, give me information based on facts.

So tell me, if Barry and the twin girls were born in the same hospital as he says, wouldn't they have 'inline' numbers? And if he was born the day before the girls, wouldn't their numbers be higher than his? So why is his number lower than the girls?

Isn't it odd no one from the health department can provide his birth certificate but they could willingly furnish copies of the twins certificates? Kind of odd, isn't it?

By: yogiman on 6/7/13 at 2:41

He did produce a long form, jughead, but it's been proven to be a fake. And why did he say the state would not allow him to have a copy of his birth certificate but HOLY MACKEREL, he produced one when forced to... which has been proven to be a fake.

Birth certificates are not written on several sheets of overlying paper.

By: yogiman on 6/7/13 at 2:47


Your citizenship comes from both of your parents except for certain different matters. Unless the laws have been changed, your 'family' name comes from your father. You don't just pick it out of the air.

If Barry was born in Kenya as he claimed for 16 years, his mother could not pass her American citizenship down to him because of her age. She was also too young to pass her citizenship down to him if he was born in Hawaii. She had to live in the USA for at least 5 years after her 14th birthday. She was only 18.5.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 2:57

yogi, you are full of crap. I just explained the difference in the numbers. Do you need a link for that AGAIN? Your citizenship can come from one of your parents. The fact that your last name comes from your father has nothing at all to do with citizenship. And that hokey crap you're trying to peddle about her being in Kenya and her age determining her citizenship status is complete bull. I don't know where you dream up this shit.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 3:00

Obama had already been vetted. To be accused AFTER BEING ELECTED that he was not born in the U.S. was an insult. He didn't have to provide it again at all. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. Just because a bunch of slack-jawed hillbillies think he's not from here doesn't make it so and to accuse him of usurping office and disrespecting him - well, wouldn't you feel insulted?

By: BenDover on 6/7/13 at 3:01

The domestic terrorism by the 'gun nut' turns out to be a domestic dispute by a drama queen trying to frame her hubby.


By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 3:02

And no, his birth certificate is not a fake. That's already been proven. Unless you believe those crackpot conspiracy sites that you read.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 3:03

Hiya, Ben. Wow, just what we need in this world - another nutcase.

Are you staying at the condo during CMA or did you get outta downtown?

By: yogiman on 6/7/13 at 3:16

You're talking about the number from the different islands, B2. But at any point, how could his number be bigger than the twins, especially with them being born in the same hospital.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 3:20

yogi, I have posted all of this information for you before several times. Why in the hell do you keep bringing it up when you've been shown otherwise? Is your memory truly that bad or are you just an obnoxious, blithering idiot? Jesus.

By: yogiman on 6/7/13 at 3:21


I'm afraid you're going to look like a damn fool pretty soon.

Well, I'll get off you back now, my kids are coming in and they come first.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 3:21

Your poor kids.

Why don't you try holding your breath until your predictions come true?

By: dargent7 on 6/7/13 at 4:09

Updates from the West Coast...:
I'm moving BACK to my adopted home of San Diego, probably Tues. Miss the ocean.
San Jose' is FAR too intellectual/ rich for me (think Belle Meade)...Google, Yahoo!, Samsung, Motorola, Microsoft, Canon, ....Jesus!
Obama got out alive....his motorcade was 5 limos long. Decoys.
I met Clinton in San Diego in 1994 or so. He only had 3 decoys.
I did the debates at Belmont for Obama and McCain...2 cars each.
Obama is so hooked up it's unbelievable. This guy supercedes the Emperor of the Galexie. No wonder all want that job!

By: dargent7 on 6/7/13 at 4:13

I forgot Apple and Facebook....

By: yogiman on 6/7/13 at 4:44

When, where and what explanation was given to prove that 'little piece of paper' is authentic, B2?

And why is it going to be seen by the Alabama Supreme Court? If it's been proven authentic, why would anyone question it?

By: yogiman on 6/7/13 at 4:53

One more question, B2.

You claim the BC numbers differ because of the births on the different islands. Even on that basis (if it's a fact) how could Barry's number be higher than the twins if they were born in the same hospital?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/7/13 at 5:08

Your kids are coming to see if your dead, yogi. Their are going to be disappointed once more

By: Captain Nemo on 6/7/13 at 5:17

yogi you have got to be the stupidest man on earth. You go out of your way to be ignorant.