Up for Debate: Sandusky's fate heads to jury

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 12:32am

With the conclusion of this trial now in the hands of jurors, what are your reactions to it thus far and do you believe there's any way he could avoid convictions out of the now 48 counts he faces? Finally, how damning is it to learn that one of his adoptive sons was also prepared to testify as an alleged victim of Sandusky's?

80 Comments on this post:

By: dargent7 on 6/22/12 at 4:32

They'll lock this guy up and throw away the key. Prison will be a great place for him to enjoy sex with other boys to men.
They should lock up that ho wife of his, too. She never heard screams coming from the basement?
And I think it's 52 counts. At 58, he'll maybe get out when he's 90.

By: Loner on 6/22/12 at 4:53

Good morning, Nashville.

As for Sandusky and Penn State, I hope that the victims of this monster sue Penn State's @ss off...so badly that their "football program" is reduced to 2-hand touch using a Nerf football....bring your own Nerf football style.

An obsession with the jock strap led to this sordid situation....let Sandusky's victims destroy the institution that allowed their abuser to commit his crimes with impunity for decades.

I agree with Darge, Sandusky's wife should also be in the slammer...she enabled the pervert and covered for him...she is an accomplice to child rape....and she got away with her crimes....hopefully the legal bills will bankrupt the Sandusky family and Mrs. S. will be forced into poverty and loathed for the rest of her perverted life.

By: Ummm... on 6/22/12 at 5:22

I think we can all agree that these crimes represent the lowest of the low in human behavior. Mental illness explains this to some degree, but there is no explanation for the actions (or lack thereof) of those who participated even passively in covering up this horrific story. I'm with you, Loner- the penalty for Penn State cannot be too severe.

By: dargent7 on 6/22/12 at 5:47

The defense's defense: Histrionic Personality Disorder" is a joke.
Did Michael Jackson have it also? 40 year old men having sleep overs, drinking "Jesus Juice".
Sandusky "blowing on 12 year old tummys and then getting oral sex....."
No way will he walk. But, that's what I said about OJ, Robert Blake, and Casey Anthony.
Jury pools have to be from the shallowest end of the gene pool.

By: Loner on 6/22/12 at 5:56

When he was Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich is said to have suffered from Histrionic Personality Disorder...undiagnosed, of course....everything was a crisis with Newt...glad to see that guy exiting the stage.

Speaking of hi-profile trials, that mass murdering white supremacist, in Norway, the A-hole who killed 77 and wounded hundreds more, is now on trial...get this: the Defense is claiming the shooter was sane and should be acquitted...the Prosecution is arguing that the shooter is insane and should not go to prison, but to a treatment center...and here we thought our legal system was goofy.....Norway must be the land of fruits & nuts.

By: Rasputin72 on 6/22/12 at 6:00

Penn State has nothing to do with the vice of this fellow Sandusky. I see no reason to sue LONER because his brother was a creep and LONER lived with him for 25 years never really knowing what his brother was doing.

In the meantime this fellow Sandusky has been exposed to the public. For reasons that escape me there are more than a couple of people willing to come forward and testify.

The man will be sentenced to the maximum extent of the law in this case.

Removing this fellow from the public leaves only another 150,000 plus fellows just like him roaming around the United States. These people in most cases just do not happen to be in a high profile and public situation as a Penn State football assistant.

By: Loner on 6/22/12 at 6:01

In light of Ben Dover's theory that Fast & Furious was deliberately botched, so that US gun-control legislation would be forthcoming, somebody is probably claiming that the Norwegian shooter was working for American gun control advocacy groups....that claim makes as much sense as the F&F conspiracy theories....it's tin-foil Friday....let the theories be aired.

By: yogiman on 6/22/12 at 6:01

The most wondering thought to me is why so many of these young men allowed it to happen to them. I know me and I know what would have happened to the man if he "approached" me in my youth.

By: Loner on 6/22/12 at 6:08

The Rasp leads with a false analogy....ponders the reasons why a victim might come forward...prognosticates on the verdict....then pulls a figure out of his Grey-Poupon-stained nether regions, so as to minimize the unique horror of this case.

The tone of Raspy's remarks almost suggests the idea that Penn State has deep pockets, ergo the hullabaloo.....the underclass stripping a successful man of his hard-earned wealth, once again.

Gotta love the Rasp....he is consistent.

By: Rasputin72 on 6/22/12 at 6:08

LONER.......You are an interesting fellow. You post on a newspaper that is as remote from your lifestyle as Uganda is to Norway. You obviously have lived a life that was not exactly a home-run considering your talents.

What made you so angry at people who have had more success and more good fortune than you?

I know you will have a reply that begets your unfulfilled abilities. I am expecting something akin to the "Gettysburg Address"

By: yogiman on 6/22/12 at 6:13

Well, Loner, since we're all entitled to our personal thoughts and theories, I'm gonna agree with BenDover.

Out federal government would be delighted to un-arm the freedom loving people of OUR nation..., not theirs.

Do you think we would still be the nation we are if the common citizens weren't armed?

And considering the point Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama was allowed by our [so-called] congress to steal that office makes him number one in a goal for gun control today.

By: Ummm... on 6/22/12 at 6:13

Loner, the "fast and furious" theories espoused by the right-wingnuts are designed to divert attention from the actual goal of impugning and destroying Eric Holder and the Obama Justice Department. It has nothing to do with gun control- it is an attempt to allow the voter suppression laws enacted by the Teapublicans to be put into unfettered practice, without federal challenge. "Leave us alone while we try to rig the electorate or we'll attack you."

By: yogiman on 6/22/12 at 6:20

Quit picking on Loner, Rasputin72, he was one of our mailmen and they had a higher ranking than the police, firetrucks and ambulances at a crossroad. So don't interfere with the mailman. I hope he was better than the one I have now that's leaving mail in my box with someone else address on it.

By: Loner on 6/22/12 at 6:21

If you are waiting for the equivalent of the Gettysburg Address, Rasp, you better take a seat....you may have to wait for some time.

I am a happy man, I'm healthy and I have this forum on which to pontificate, rant and rave....that's a home run, my friend.

By: Loner on 6/22/12 at 6:26

I agree, Ummm, Issa and his posse are refusing to be reasonable, this is now a full-blown witch hunt.

IMO, the President needs to clean house, fire some top people and then come on prime time TV with a reassuring address to the nation...take no questions from the press and leave it at that. The longer Obama stalls, the worse this will get....it could fester....he needs first-aid now.

By: yogiman on 6/22/12 at 6:28


Your argument on "Leave us alone while we try to rig the electorate or we'll attack you" argument is coming from the Obama table. He pulled it off once and is trying to pull it off again.
Have you ever wondered why the went into that "Fast and Furious" scheme knowing they couldn't track the guns past the border?

By: Loner on 6/22/12 at 6:33

Again, IMO, Eric Holder should fall on his sword and save the President the task of firing him....if Holder is history, the witch hunt ends....the witch has been drowned....though ripples and bubbles will remain for quite some time.

It is difficult to defend such ineptitude as we see in the F&F case...the AG is responsible for what his underlings do or do not do....this is the big leagues and it's hardball....Holder should resign.

By: Loner on 6/22/12 at 6:42

BTW, Rasp, I am not angry at you because you have achieved material wealth; in fact I am not angry at you at all.

I honestly feel that you are a valuable addition to the list of "regulars" here. Yes, I do take shots at your comments; that's what we do here....nothing personal about it...it's online discourse & debate on a variety of subjects....some serious and some silly...it suits my lifestyle just fine....and it seems to fit yours too....we have that in common, my friend.

By: slacker on 6/22/12 at 7:13

Rasp, some of administrators at Penn State knew about this pervert, and failed to act. They are lawyering up as we speak. Their arses will be charged, and eventually sued.
So.. Penn State had a lot to do, with future prison inmate Sandusky.

By: Rasputin72 on 6/22/12 at 7:15

LONER......You may have not intended it to be a "Gettysburg Address" but your 7:21 was a perfect resonse. Anything else would have lured you into my attempted "web trap."

I have little regard for your ideas that contain foolish and unworthy liberal bias but I always appreciate the brain that delivers these liberal rants.

By: yogiman on 6/22/12 at 7:16

And you should note I'm the silliest one here, Rasputin72, because I don't think like the rest of the "mob" and am specializing in pointing out the "man in office" is in OUR office illegally (meaning Barry Soetoro in OUR Oval Office).

By: slacker on 6/22/12 at 7:22

Loner, Rasp was gonna spring his infamous ''web trap'' on you. The trap consists of a cummerbund wrapped around a keyboard with large fonts. Always deadly.

By: Rasputin72 on 6/22/12 at 7:27

SLACKER........The LONER is capable of springing an armada of web-traps if he so chooses. What a shame that such talent has a vendetta against people who choose not to be "just passing through"

By: BenDover on 6/22/12 at 7:48

I'm trying to remember if you've offered up anything more than your Randian 'starve out the unworthy masses' shtick Rasputin.

I mean, we agree on a lot of things; but just like yogi's birther stuff... it was entertaining for a short while but had little shelf-life.

By: Rasputin72 on 6/22/12 at 7:57

BEN DOVER...........I am not trying to be entertaining in any manner. Were I not baffled and perplexed by the decline of this country I would not be making comments on this forum at all. I have one objective on this forum and that is to "piss off" every class envy liberal and every underclass human with a computer.

I am sorry that you think this is an intellectual debate about interesting subjects. We have about 17 to 20 people who post on this forum. One of which comes all the way from New York. Each of us have a very personal reason for being on this forum. Being prolific as you would wish is probably just a wish.

By: BenDover on 6/22/12 at 8:01

Like I suspected... Gallup's got Romney up 2 today... Rasmussen's got him up 5 in Likely voters. Rasmussen usually tracks about 2 or 3 points to the right of the other polls so that's in line with what we've seen since the beginning of May... a slow trend in favor of Romney.

The Bloomberg Likely Voter poll this week that showed O' up 13 is an outlier and a total crock of BS.

By: BenDover on 6/22/12 at 8:04

Having only on dimension wears thin pretty quickly Rasputin.

By: dargent7 on 6/22/12 at 8:10

Obama is a scrapper from Chicago. Lived in Hawai'i and Indonesia. He knows how to live day to day, by the seat of your pants.
Romney's a 'rich kid" from the 'burbs who's had everything fed to him. His knowledge of middle America is 0.0%.
Obama shrewdly ripped off Rubio's "Dream Act" on a Cliff Note vein.
He'll get the Hispanic vote. Romney won't get any minority vote. Just rich, white, wealthy Corps., and it won't be enough. He won't even get the Christian Conservative vote with his Mormonism b.s.
I'm looking forward to him and his minions going down in flames this Nov. 6th.

By: Ummm... on 6/22/12 at 8:21

Agree completely darge- it is funny to watch Romney trying to simultaneously pander to Hispanics and teapartiers. "He's a walking contradiction..."

By: slacker on 6/22/12 at 8:30

Obama is a useful tool created by numerous socialists. He scrapped by via affirmative action, and letters of recommendation from influential socialists. Mitt did it the old-fashioned way, he was born bright and wealthy.

By: govskeptic on 6/22/12 at 8:34

This adopted son has become aware of all the testimony during the trial and
has decided to he would tell his story, versus his initial story that he had never
been abused. After Sandusky is convicted, unless some jury member is
of the same ill and hangs the jury, the state may continue to look at
complicity by others within that institution for prosecution or criticism! The
main thing is this story and prosecution will be a poster story for more
attention by the public and institution as to not allowing blind eyes by far
too many! Far too often it's kids, male and female, without fathers at home
that are the victims by these sick leeches on society!

By: BigPapa on 6/22/12 at 8:40

Penn State officials knew about this stuff and covered it up. That's why they'll be sued.

Pedophiles are the worst.. seriously they need to save us the coin and put a bullet in his head.

By: yogiman on 6/22/12 at 8:50

I understand your thinking I should "get off my argument" about Obama's eligibility, BenDover, but what I don't understand is I'm the only one on this site with the question.

To say "I know he's in that office illegally so let's get him out next time" is like saying; Okay, I know he's in that office unofficially but we can vote him out next time.

So; as many of you have posted your knowledge on his illegal eligibility before makes me wonder what kind of "men" you are that you're so willing to accept an illegal usurper in office.

That ain't me. I'm going to continue my argument right along side y'all continuing yours against me.

By: yogiman on 6/22/12 at 8:59

A thought I don't understand, BigPapa.

Didn't any of those young men tell their parents about what was going on? Was they afraid of losing their scholarship or was they so weak minded they couldn't tell it to their parents. Especially their dad?

I raised my children to come to me with anything they believed I should know. And if my son had come to me with this scandal I would have went and "talked" to the man.

He could have picked his own hospital for treatment or funeral home if he had raped my son.

By: govskeptic on 6/22/12 at 9:07

Yogi: You're missing an important point on your question about parents. Each
and ever one of these boys only had a mother at home! Each most
likely thought these boys were with a needed father figure!

By: Ummm... on 6/22/12 at 9:07

Slacker- Romney bright and wealthy? Well, at least you're half right.

By: Kosh III on 6/22/12 at 9:21

Ben: "Like I suspected... Gallup's got Romney up 2 today... "

Frankly my dear, I don't give a.... LOL
The election is months away. Polls at this point mean very little. The media just needs something-anything to keep us riled up and tuned in.

By: Kosh III on 6/22/12 at 9:25

"every underclass human"

that is the problem. You think you are a superior being and that some Americans should are inferior and do not deserve equal rights.
You are not a feudal baron but if it'll make you happy, give us your address and we can have the peasants with pitchforks and torches drop by for tea some time. LOL

By: BenDover on 6/22/12 at 9:29

I was just pointing out that the Bloomberg poll this week was a total fantasy, Kosh.

By: slacker on 6/22/12 at 9:29

What we need is a John Dean type snitcher to emerge, and get this ''fast & furious'' thang on track. That would be fodder until football season starts.

By: bfra on 6/22/12 at 9:31

Kosh III - Rasp seem to know what equates an underclass human too well, not to be one. People of means, do not get on a forum & brag about it.

By: Ummm... on 6/22/12 at 9:39

bfra, you're instincts are no doubt correct. Rasputin's vitriol smacks of fraud- he's a "wannabe."

By: yogiman on 6/22/12 at 9:41

Sorry, govskeptic,

I hadn't kept track of that incident. Another question, then. If all of these young men were without fathers, what happened at home? What kind of families were they from?

Didn't any of them know who their fathers were? Or didn't any of them ever have anything to do with their fathers?

In my early time in life, a boy born to an unmarried mother as a "bastard". And a lot of boys their age wouldn't have anything to do with them. I guess they were afraid they would get inflicted with it.

By: BenDover on 6/22/12 at 9:51

"At least when the plumbers tried to steal the book of Whoremon, nobody died."
Johnny Cochran

By: slacker on 6/22/12 at 9:55

yogi, there are still children born out out wedlock, but most people have the civility not to refer to them as ''bastards.''

By: bfra on 6/22/12 at 10:00

slacker be forewarned, yogi has already, repeatedly of course, said how mean & bad he is & threatened some with his shotgun.:-)

By: Kosh III on 6/22/12 at 10:06

Ah, so you did Ben. Lo siento.

By: slacker on 6/22/12 at 10:07

Now your talking Ben... ''Holdergate'' We need some thick glasses wearing little snitch to pop-up and tell all. Hillary Rodham (not married to Bill at the time) was on staff at the Watergate hearing's. Hillary can coordinate the action.

By: slacker on 6/22/12 at 10:20

bfra, I'll just show him my birth certificate. That and a dose of lithium, will settle him down.

By: bfra on 6/22/12 at 10:26

slacker - I doubt even that could make him think straight & by the way your comment about boys with no Fathers was appreciated by most people.