Up for Debate: SCOTUS looks at Arizona's immigration law

Thursday, April 26, 2012 at 2:05am

As the U.S. Supreme Court considers Arizona's immigration law — with possible implications for similar laws in other states — how do you think the high court will rule? How do you think it should rule? Are these recent laws ones that should be re-evaluated and reeled in or expanded?

134 Comments on this post:

By: slacker on 4/26/12 at 8:38

No way Mitt picks Jeb. Surely he has more political savvy than that.

By: BenDover on 4/26/12 at 8:41

No way Jeb will take the 2nd seat to Romney. He and Condi will tag in in 2016 if Mittens blows it this year.

By: BenDover on 4/26/12 at 8:42

My crystal balls say Rubio is the Dude.

By: Loner on 4/26/12 at 8:43

Uhhh..I'm using my NYS Comedic License, Captain, I just had it renewed at the New York State Department of Humor & Comedy......they raised the licensing fees again....Son of Cuomo needs the cash..he's working the comics, wise-@sses, comedians, clowns, humorists, witticists, jesters and jokers....some can't afford the fees....work is tough to get these days...some of us are financially hurtin'.

By: yogiman on 4/26/12 at 8:45

Loner,

When do you think Al would have stopped asking for a vote re-count in 2000? I would have bed the minutes he was the "winner" he would have quit asking.

And can you tell us, why did he keep the service men's votes out of the ballot?

By: slacker on 4/26/12 at 8:45

Ben, whats your fascination with Rice? She's average at best.

By: Loner on 4/26/12 at 8:48

Ben is resorting to consultation with the crystalline spheres of clairvoyance....I'll have to energize my own balls and see what they have to say...I hate to energize them needlessly...when I activate them, the power drain dims the lights in the neighborhood for about 30 seconds.....WTF...I'm hitting the "Activate Balls" button anyway...this is serious business.

By: slacker on 4/26/12 at 8:56

Rubio is the obvious choice.Backdoor choice would be, Rob Portman. Gotta have Ohio.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/26/12 at 8:57

This is just today’s examples Ben. There are other people and other days. Give me some time and I will go look them. By:

Rasputin72 on 4/26/12 at 7:17
Contrary to the opinion of the NAACP and a few liberals the Civil War of 1861 to 1865 was fought over the same principle. It was called "States Rights"

Arizona is absolutely correct in their handling of this situation based on their desires. In the final determination however they will not win. The United States Supreme Court will if it goes that far rule in favor of the underclass.

By: Rasputin72 on 4/26/12 at 8:54
There are only 13 or 14 people who convey their thoughts and bias on this board. The differential between beliefs and attitudes are quite diverse. In a country with 300 million people I hope someone can see how in the near future there will be insurrection of some kind.

By: Loner on 4/26/12 at 8:59

Slack is right, Condi Rice is Minute Rice, not the real stuff...she's not Himalayan-grown, Basmati, long-grain, brown rice.....she's the EZ no-brainer kind of rice...the white on white, fluffy stuff, not the nutritious kind....Uncle Ben has his converted rice....Aunt Condi's Converted Rice is Kosher and sell-able.... Aunt Jemima, you got competition.

By: slacker on 4/26/12 at 9:05

I'd soon as have Jerry Lee Lewis... he plays piano.
Jerry Lee, just married his cousins ex-wife. He's consistent, gotta give ''The Killer'' that.

By: Loner on 4/26/12 at 9:09

The Electoral College system gives us the battleground states as a reduced-size playing field. The need to cajole and placate the voters in these few states oftentimes manifests itself in the VP selection process. There is something fundamentally undemocratic about that, IMO.

Our quaint system has other flaws too....we, the people, have zero input into who the presidential nominees choose for the second highest office in the land....the choice is often a disastrous one...politics & personal whims enter the decision-making process and you get a Sarah Palin...she, not Senator Obama, spooked the markets in 2008.

My balls are not up to temperature yet, Ben...stand by....when they reveal the info I'll share.

By: BenDover on 4/26/12 at 9:09

Condi's an excellent choice for smarts, experience and for the foreign policy dimension. She's just tainted by the fact that Bush never defended his administration or the conservative world view against relentless assault while he was in office.

If you look at Obama that's all he ever does, though, is bolster his appearances (and fund-raise). He aimed the direction of the country left with all of his appointments and vast expansion of the bureaucracy and then set the cruise control on 80 so he could focus on his reputation.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/26/12 at 9:15

The yogiman is full of underlining hints for war.

By: yogiman on 4/24/12 at 9:46
I'm afraid you're right, BenDover.

Of course, LBJ's "equal law" of 1964 was for the black Americans votes as he was known to be the biggest racist in politics at that time.

It was hoped, though, among the white Americans, that we had finally become one nation to all. But I'm afraid Barry Soetoro has put us back before LBJ's tenure.

And ironically, there seems to be more racism by the black Americans than the white Americans today. Are they just trying to turn racism around as in the pre-1964s?

By: BenDover on 4/26/12 at 9:15

Al Gore could give you some advice on firing up the crystal balls Loner.

"Masseuse's right hand, Masseuse's right hand...
gonna release the Chakra with Masseuse's right hand"

By: slacker on 4/26/12 at 9:15

Ben, that was my point regarding Jeb. IMO, any association with the Bush administration now, will taint Mitt's campaign. Rightly or wrongly.

By: BenDover on 4/26/12 at 9:16

I agree slack.

By: Loner on 4/26/12 at 9:21

Ben sez: Condi's an excellent choice for smarts, experience and for the foreign policy dimension. She's just tainted by the fact that Bush never defended his administration or the conservative world view against relentless assault while he was in office.

Ben's first sentence is laughable. If her brains were in her derriere, I might agree.

The second sentence is actually almost true...VP Dick Cheney was Bush's hatchet man and his primary Administration Defender...Karl Rove dida lot of the heavy lifting....right-wing & "Christian" media networks worked overtime defending Bush-Cheney...the relatively dim-witted President appeared to be aloof and detached from the mounting criticisms....they kept Junior out of the loop...kept him "presidential-looking"...Junior was in way over his head.....and the nation is still paying the price for his incompetence.

By: slacker on 4/26/12 at 9:22

Loner, firing 'em up frequently, could be the cause of all that dribbling. Very hard on the prostate. Not to mention that embarrassing wet spot on pants.
-Dr. Ben Casey

By: gdiafante on 4/26/12 at 9:23

Other than the health care law, Obama's done nothing different than Bush (well, he's certainly more efficient in the war on terror).

And really, most of the health care law is old GOP ideas...

Nice try Ben. Keep trying, you'll get there one day.

By: frodo on 4/26/12 at 9:23

Employing the standard Democrat play book on social-political discourse, Loner and other Slackers, I would have to say that you who so easily criticize Justice Thomas are blatant black-hating racists. Shame, shame.

By: frodo on 4/26/12 at 9:27

Oh, now there you go, Loner, attacking another African-American, Condi Rice. You are a brute of a racist, I say!

By: gdiafante on 4/26/12 at 9:27

Frodo, I'd stick to sipping ale with other hobbits than entering political discourse. I mean, congrats on destroying the ring of power and all, but this isn't Middle Earth.

By: frodo on 4/26/12 at 9:28

Getting Jesse and Al on the phone right now.

By: frodo on 4/26/12 at 9:30

We will all wear Supreme Court robes to the voting booths in sympathy for this character assassination.

By: brrrrk on 4/26/12 at 9:31

On has to wonder, if Canada is the dystopia that the right would have us believe it is, then why aren't the northern states up in arms about the flood of immigrants coming down from the great white north? Damn you William Shatner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: slacker on 4/26/12 at 9:31

frodo, I'm standing my ground.

By: gdiafante on 4/26/12 at 9:34

Why would anyone leave Canada for the U.S.??

By: BenDover on 4/26/12 at 9:36

Why would anyone in their right mind live above the Mason Dixon line?

By: slacker on 4/26/12 at 9:36

To host Jeopardy?

By: brrrrk on 4/26/12 at 9:36

gdiafante said

"Other than the health care law, Obama's done nothing different than Bush (well, he's certainly more efficient in the war on terror)."

And he has expanded gun rights.... oh wait, that's a trick to lull the NRA into a state of slumber, at which time he will send his wraith-like minions throughout the country gathering up every gun that they can get their hands on........

By: Loner on 4/26/12 at 9:41

You forgot my criticisms of General Powell, Frodo...he carried water on the Bush Plantation...carried buckets all the way to the UN...Powell was a career military man who should have been reluctant to put soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen in harm's way, over trumped-up charges and "sexed up" intel...IMO.

I guess that makes me a Negro-hating racist, right?

And my criticisms of the US-Israel Special Relationship make me anti-Semitic, right?

And let's not forget my criticisms of unrestrained, Dickensian capitalism make me a Communist, right?

And my support for absolute separation of church & state makes me anti-Christian.

Go ahead...pile on...little Frodo....I've heard it all before.

By: frodo on 4/26/12 at 9:42

Will someone please give Loner and Slacker a job...something where you aren't allowed to troll the Internet? Oh, I forgot, there are no jobs in the Obama/Biden economy.

By: frodo on 4/26/12 at 9:43

Well, I think you've pretty much made my case for me, Loner.

By: frodo on 4/26/12 at 9:44

Now I have to get back to work to pay for your benefits.

By: brrrrk on 4/26/12 at 9:46

Frodo.... not just diminutive in size.

By: slacker on 4/26/12 at 9:46

Come on frodo, give me a break. If I wasn't on here, I'd be out drinking & driving.

By: gdiafante on 4/26/12 at 9:48

I've lived north of the Mason-Dixon, Ben. There's really no comparison. Unfortunately, circumstances have prevented me from escaping back to the promised land.

But I'll always have PA...

By: Loner on 4/26/12 at 9:51

If General Powell had personal doubts about the wisdom and efficacy of invading and occupying Afghanistan or Iraq, he should have stood up to the neocons and Donald Rumsfeld.

Apparently he was totally for the idea, or else he compromised his code of ethics as a military man....if he had doubts, and it now appears that he did, he should have resigned and spoken out.

Powell added credibility to the neocon's casus belli, his support for the wars was crucial, perhaps essential....I hold him accountable for dereliction of duty.

By: BenDover on 4/26/12 at 9:53

Their contempt for Rice and Thomas are related to Uncle Tom Effect.

If you are a member of one of their patent aggrieved groups and don't tow the line on liberal ideology then it's "off with your heads!". In their minds the affront is like not showing respect for your elders or a like dog biting the hand that feeds him.

Pejorative comments usually with the stereotypical discriminitory biases are fair game against those who violate of this liberal prima directivum.

The poor, or minority, or women, or gays or whatever who leave the plantation obviously don't know that they are standing on the shoulders of liberalism and owe liberalism its due homage and devotion.

By: Loner on 4/26/12 at 9:55

Get back to work, Frodo...and thank you for your service....without you worker ants, us saxophone-playing grasshoppers would starve....would you like to call the tune, sir?

By: brrrrk on 4/26/12 at 9:58

BenDover said

"Why would anyone in their right mind live above the Mason Dixon line?"

The 10 lowest states in terms of high school graduation and the percentage of students who graduate

Georgia 54%
Nevada 58%
Florida 59%
District of Columbia 59%
Arizona 59%
Tennessee 60%
South Carolina 62%
Mississippi 62%
Alabama 62%
North Carolina 63%

The 10 highest states in terms of high school graduation and the percentage of students who graduate

Wyoming 81%
Utah 81%
Pennsylvania 82%
West Virginia 82%
Minnesota 82%
Montana 83%
Vermont 84%
Nebraska 85%
Wisconsin 85%
North Dakota 88%
Iowa 93%

For God's sake Tennessee!! You're getting your ass kick by West Virginia!?!?

By: Loner on 4/26/12 at 10:00

Finally, Doctor Dover posts something that I agree with...common ground has been found...Ben wrote:

The poor, or minority, or women, or gays or whatever who leave the plantation obviously don't know that they are standing on the shoulders of liberalism and owe liberalism its due homage and devotion.

Amen, brother Dover.

By: slacker on 4/26/12 at 10:02

brrrrk, to be fair, you must factor in our outstanding football programs.

By: brrrrk on 4/26/12 at 10:04

gdiafante said

"I've lived north of the Mason-Dixon, Ben. There's really no comparison. Unfortunately, circumstances have prevented me from escaping back to the promised land.

But I'll always have PA..."

Yes, it was that great public education that I got in Pa that allowed me to test out of several math and science courses when I went to college.....

By: brrrrk on 4/26/12 at 10:06

slacker said

"brrrrk, to be fair, you must factor in our outstanding football programs."

Are you talking about UT? :-)

By: slacker on 4/26/12 at 10:10

no..no.. brrrrk. A's only Alabama, Arkansas.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/26/12 at 10:17

By: frodo on 4/26/12 at 10:42
Will someone please give Loner and Slacker a job...something where you aren't allowed to troll the Internet? Oh, I forgot, there are no jobs in the Obama/Biden economy.

Lets see if frodo says the same too bud and yogi,

By: BenDover on 4/26/12 at 10:21

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/03/longhorns-17-badgers-1.html

By: Captain Nemo on 4/26/12 at 10:25

The south is full of uneducated southerners and people from the north, west, mid-west and other countries know that an uneducated work force is easy to control. Take bud for example.