Up for Debate: SCOTUS upholds DNA swabs

Wednesday, June 5, 2013 at 12:36am

Do you agree with the U.S. Supreme Court's decision to uphold DNA swabbing of those under arrest?

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49 Comments on this post:

By: yogiman on 6/5/13 at 5:01

One more step toward government control over the citizens.

If the member of the 'Supreme Court' is knowledgeable of the Constitution and makes their decisions based on knowledge, why do they constantly make 5-4 decisions? Are 4 of them ignorant of the Constitution and make their decision on personal thoughts?

By: Loner on 6/5/13 at 5:19

Good morning, Nashville.

Do you agree with the U.S. Supreme Court's decision to uphold DNA swabbing of those under arrest?

I do not agree with the decision; this represents a further erosion of our individual liberties and once again, it was the so-called "conservatives" - the "little government" people - who voted to increase the power granted to the police....the Bush family Supreme Court appointees are still working on the Bush Plantation; especially Clarence Thomas....he never opens his mouth except to ask, "When's lunch?".....talk about a welfare king, Thomas has got it made....money for nuthin' and the chicks for free....still, he sits there brooding, still pissed off about the Anita Hill scandal....what a creep.

By: Rasputin72 on 6/5/13 at 5:34

NO!

By: HoundDog on 6/5/13 at 5:37

The amazing part of this decision is that Breyer voted with the majority and Scalia voted with the minority.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/13 at 5:48

Loner I disagree with you on this issue. I don’t see any difference in this than I do to fingerprinting, but I am open to farther discussion.

By: yogiman on 6/5/13 at 5:55

They all "have it made", Loner. The Supreme Court is one of the few mistakes our founders made by giving them life long appointments. They should be appointed to term limits, not the "rest of your life" appointment.

The Supreme Court has made too many ignorant decisions over the years.

It's going to be interesting how our government will be changed if Barry succeeds in his takeover.

By: yogiman on 6/5/13 at 6:10

Hey, Loner,

Since you're an admirer of Israel I thought you might like this joke about the Jewish deal maker.

An old Jewish man is walking down the street one afternoon when he sees a young woman with perfect breasts.

He say's to her, "Hey, miss, would you let me BITE your breasts for $100?"

"Are you nuts?!" she replies; and keeps on walking.

He turns around, runs around the block and gets to the corner before she does.

"Would you let me bite your breasts for $1,000?" he asks again.
"Listen you, I'm not that kind of woman! Got it?"

So the little old Jewish man runs around the next block and faces her again.

"Would you let me bite your breasts-just once- for $10,000?!"

She thinks about it for a while and says... "Hmmmmm, $10,000... OK, just once, but not here. Let's go to that dark alley over there."

So they go into the alley, where she takes off her blouse to reveal the most perfect breasts in the world, As soon as he sees them, he grabs them and starts caressing them, fondling them slowly, licking them, burying his face in them - but not biting them.

The woman finally gets annoyed and asks, "Well, are you going to bite them or not?"

"Nah", says the little old Jewish man... "Costs too much!"

By: Kosh III on 6/5/13 at 6:19

One more step along the road to right-wing fascism.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/13 at 7:26

Ben; PBS Nature will be a show about Victory Falls tonight.

By: yogiman on 6/5/13 at 7:26

Three sources some of you might be interested in: www.shoebate.com/ www.benbarrack.com/ and www.olivetreeviews.org/

dargent7,

You 'argued' about the deaths of children yesterday. May I ask if you have ever read about Adam and Eve? You know, that woman that convinced her man to eat that damn apple after God told them not to eat it?

That should explain to you why everyone is dying after they are born. And only God knows when he wants them.

Just think, if Adam hadn't eat that damn apple to satisfy Eve everyone on this earth would still be alive. Recon that's why so many people don't like apples today?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/13 at 7:44

Stupid yogi.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/13 at 7:46

Adam lied to hide his sins.

By: bfra on 6/5/13 at 8:22

Nothing like a dumb old fool to ruin everyday's discussion with his stupidity. Shut up yogi, you old fool!

By: yogiman on 6/5/13 at 8:35

Since I'm not as stupid as you, I don't feel I should shut up, bfra... nd throw your buddy dumba$$' stupidity in there with yours.

By: BenDover on 6/5/13 at 8:39

Scalia did not surprise me. Breyer defecting is a surprise though. I thought Thomas would draw the line but he sided with the earlier precedence, equating DNA to fingerprinting, which is wrong I think. Alito surprised me too. Roberts never hesitates to give government more power though so it was obvious where he'd fall.

We already know there are genetic predispositions for mental disorders like schizophrenia, psychopathy and such. How long before mama gov. goes prospecting into those databases for more opportunities to save us from ourselves?

On the positive side hopefully this will hang a few murders and rapists who otherwise would roam free. The disadvantages outweigh the advantages in my mind. Digging deeper I bet we will find that the challenge was, more or less, anemic and; this was just a formality to codify the growing authority.

By: yogiman on 6/5/13 at 8:40

If there's any true American citizens out there, General Patrick Brady just wrote an interesting article you might want to read about Barry's efforts. Consider how weak our military has become since Barry usurped the office.

www.wnd.com/2013/06/a-helpless-military-just-what-obama-ordered/

By: yogiman on 6/5/13 at 8:43

It's just one more step in their takeover, BenDover.

By: bfra on 6/5/13 at 8:54

yogi, don't worry, nobody wants to take over a stupid old fool so you are safe.

By: yogiman on 6/5/13 at 9:12

So, following you you ignorance you're accusing me to be stupider than you, eh, bfra? Or are you acknowledging you're more stupid than I?

Gotta go. You made be able to come up with a reply. Have fun.

By: brrrrk on 6/5/13 at 9:19

Captain Nemo said

"Ben; PBS Nature will be a show about Victory Falls tonight."

If that's the same show I saw on Victoria Falls.... it's very good.

By: budlight on 6/5/13 at 9:23

Ah yes, and moving forward from yesterday:

Captain Nemo on 6/4/13 at 12:42
Not any more d7, bud comes and goes from nut to just crazy.

Nemo, I may go from nut to just crazy, but you actually stay in that mode.

Have a nice day. And no I was not fired from any gov't job, or else why would they rehire me so readily? You crazy or what?

I don't care what you think. Cause your thinking went awry many moons ago.

By: BenDover on 6/5/13 at 9:30

That is one place I would love to visit. That train ride that goes near the falls looks fantastic.

By: BenDover on 6/5/13 at 9:38

The poor timing of the minimum wage increase right before the housing bubble burst is bringing the death knell to rural America. Historically we would eventually inflate our way out of the problem. Now rural manufacturing has been almost totally eliminated by imports; and while urbans and rurals alike benefit from the lower costs, it is the rurals who suffer most from international labor competition for low wage positions.

http://tinyurl.com/poorTimingMinimumWageIncrease

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/13 at 10:27

When we take over, the lets strip yogi to his wrinkled ass and tar and feather the old bird.

bud =cow.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/13 at 10:28

It is a repeat on the falls. I know you like them, Ben.

By: dargent7 on 6/5/13 at 10:41

Swabb 'em? You betcha'.
This just in....My New Column: "You Simply Cannot Make This Shit Up!";
A Navy SEAL just came out "as a woman"....a freakin' woman...on Team 6 that took out bin Laden.
And yogi is obsessed with Obama's Birth cert.
Like the Titanic is broken in half and sinking, and some morons on the top floor still want room service.

By: bfra on 6/5/13 at 10:47

Nemo - Tar & feathers won't stick to slime!

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/13 at 11:17

If bud doesn't care,what I say, then why did she tell me?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/13 at 11:18

I still don't see what the difference between DNA an d fingerprints.

By: yogiman on 6/5/13 at 11:30

Considering your lack of intelligence, dumba$$, that's understandable.

By: bfra on 6/5/13 at 12:28

yogi - If you ever get enough sense (doubtful) to realize how stupid you are to even mention anyone else's intelligence, you would keep your dumb trap shut.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/13 at 12:49

yogi you have the worst record for having any sense, to be telling anyone that lie.

Now make me shut up, you son of dumb-ass parents.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/13 at 12:50

Stupid yogi.

By: yogiman on 6/5/13 at 1:49

One thing I know as a positive fact, dumba$$, your parents are much more 'dumbassed' than mine. Your parents were so dumbassed they let you live after you was born. I guess they didn't know how ignorant you was going to be when you grew up... physically, that is. You obviously couldn't make it mentally.

Is bfra your kin? You two sure do act like you're close cousins.

By: brrrrk on 6/5/13 at 1:51

BenDover said

"That is one place I would love to visit. That train ride that goes near the falls looks fantastic."

Ben,

If it's a fantastic train ride you're after, consider the Durango & Silverton out of Durango CO. Skirting along the edges of the Animas Canyon while being able to look straight down several hundred feet to the river below is pretty fantastic. Plus, you just can't beat the clickety clackity feel of riding a narrow gauge steam railroad.... And, going to Durango is a helluva lot cheaper than going to Africa....

By: brrrrk on 6/5/13 at 1:55

Ben,

Here's a link....

http://www.durangotrain.com/

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/13 at 2:00

Stupid yogi.

By: brrrrk on 6/5/13 at 2:06

House Republicans To Defund ACORN Again, Even Though It Still Does Not Exist

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/04/defund-acorn_n_3384060.html

By: BenDover on 6/5/13 at 3:08

Thank you brrrrk... I'll check it out.

By: Libertine on 6/5/13 at 3:20

While blaming Bush and the right, Loner and Kosh need to realize that this is the Obama Administration that convinced the SCOTUS to take away even more of our basic individual civil rights.

By: BenDover on 6/5/13 at 3:26

Nemo, I think the difference between fingerprints and DNA is that having the database will allow them to prospect in our private being in the most intimate ways. Where they can determine very little about you with a fingerprint they can know everything about you if you are in their DNA database.

Suppose they did find that elusive 'gay' gene. It would open people with that gene and predisposition to unfounded scrutiny. Same thing with the psychopathy. Most psychopaths are thoroughly well adjusted people who have learned to get along in society without the ability to feel any empathy for others. Should they be subjected to extra scrutiny because another person with the psychopath gene acts on their natural selfishness to the demise of others.

As for not having to check race on a form, well that's out the window... it's all in the dna database in enough detail to satisfy any bigot.

Many people say things like this won't happen. I'll point you to this nice story about UK Schools not teaching about the holocaust because it offends the Muslims. We, like the boiling frog, are casually observing all those things we say will never happen, happening every day.

http://clashdaily.com/2013/06/the-uk-is-screwed-in-order-to-not-offend-muslims-british-schools-drop-holocaust-from-history-lessons/

By: Libertine on 6/5/13 at 3:37

The Obama Administration argued that DNA is no different than fingerprints, but there is a federal employee that follows Obama around collecting his poopoo and peepee in baggies so his DNA cannot be attained from them.

By: Rasputin72 on 6/5/13 at 3:48

I would agree with the scotus if they had limited the collection of DNA to the Underclass. N

The people I know would like the policy used by Obama. Keep my piss and shit sacred as well as any other DNA.

By: dargent7 on 6/5/13 at 5:27

Fingerprints can be erased. Skin grafts.
DNA is forever.
That's why it is a Godsend courts allow DNA as evidence to either convict a man or free a man of a crime.
Eyewitness accounts are bullshit but was the standard 100 years ago.
How many cases have you read about, where a man has been released from prison after serving 25 years, because his DNA wasn't found at the crime?
Fu!ck the lawyers...all crimes and courtroom proceedings should be surrounding DNA.

By: yogiman on 6/5/13 at 6:45

DNA evidence has entered the courts as a proof positive, dargent7. There are times and reasons for DNA tests. The times are when you're going to court on a criminal issue and the reason is to prove your innocence.

Too many prosecutors like to hold anything out of court fearing they might loose.

But just to have your DNA test on government isn't the thing for the common citizens.

By: budlight on 6/5/13 at 8:25

Nemo, I know you and bfra and brrrrrk think about me even when you are not posting, or else why would you even bother?

And I CARE what you all think. That is IF you all ever think.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/13 at 8:40

Stupid bud.

By: budlight on 6/5/13 at 9:39

: bfra on 6/5/13 at 1:28
yogi - If you ever get enough sense (doubtful) to realize how stupid you are to even mention anyone else's intelligence, you would keep your dumb trap shut.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/13 at 1:49
yogi you have the worst record for having any sense, to be telling anyone that lie.

Now make me shut up, you son of dumb-ass parents.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/13 at 1:50
Stupid yogi.

Yogi, have you ever noticed how easy it is to set these guys off? Wow! like ticking time bombs. And they are so gullible! They will bit on any hook, even if it's a shark hook! Oh,they're bottom feeders anyway. Well,good night boys! Not you, Yogi. You are a real man. These ya-hoos are boyz!

By: Loner on 6/6/13 at 4:59

This litter box is full....filthy stuff!