Up for Debate: Scrutiny descends upon accused in Afghan killings

Monday, March 19, 2012 at 2:01am

For better or worse, the media has begun dissecting the personal life of Army Staff Sergeant Robert Bales on the heels of his alleged involvement in killing 16 Afghan civilians. Can Bales hope to have a fair trial? Should a trial take place in the U.S. or in Afghanistan?

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By: jvh2b on 3/19/12 at 8:48

Loner asked: "Any second opinions on Yogi's mental health status?"

My official opinion: Nuttier than squirrel sh!&

By: JeffF on 3/19/12 at 9:14

I want to take a moment to thank the publisher and editor of the Nashville City Paper for dropping coverage of the Vanderbilt baseball team (est. 2002). I know it probably has something to do with the suckiness of this year's edition of the squad, but it is nice to not hear the fan boy breathless description of the storied program that plays in a stadium built with the aid of Reynolds Aluminum.

Here are the standings:
SEC Overall
W L W L
Kentucky 3 0 21 0
Florida 3 0 19 1
Arkansas 3 0 19 2
LSU 2 1 16 4
Georgia 2 1 15 6
Auburn 2 1 12 8
Ole Miss 1 2 15 5
MissState 1 2 15 7
Tennessee 1 2 11 8
S.Carolina 0 3 15 4
Alabama 0 3 8 12
Vanderbilt 0 3 7 13

By: bfra on 3/19/12 at 9:16

Trump shut up because he had no proof of his claim about Obama's eligibility. The one with the tape died befor his tape was shown to be a dud. None of the candidates are harping on his eligibility. Then there is po ole dumb yogi, still yammering about a moot point, day in & day out. Pathetic!

By: Loner on 3/19/12 at 10:03

Jvh2 registers his professional opinion....nuttier than the excrement of squirrels....if I understand his dialect....is that about right, JV?

By: gdiafante on 3/19/12 at 10:20

Looks like Peyton is going to Denver. The official Titans suicide watch begins...

I don't blame Manning, though I think SF was the closest to a SB, but both are much better than the Titans.

By: Loner on 3/19/12 at 10:27

Gd...will Peyton start? What about Tim Tebow?

By: gdiafante on 3/19/12 at 10:56

They're trying to trade Tebow. Of course Manning starts. Elway never wanted Tebow in the first place.

By: brrrrk on 3/19/12 at 11:06

Loner said

"I do not really give a rat's @ss at this point about the circumstances of President Obama's birth....few rational, people with a normal IQ are still questioning Obama's basic eligibility to be the POTUS."

Mississippi and Alabama...... nuff said.

By: brrrrk on 3/19/12 at 11:11

Loner said

"Gd...will Peyton start? What about Tim Tebow?"

From what I hear, the coaching staff at Denver will be more than happy to see Tebow hit the bricks.... in many ways that he has become an albatross around their necks. Sometimes having a lot of fans is a good thing for a player and sometimes it's a bad thing.

By: Loner on 3/19/12 at 11:33

We shall see...I gotta run now...time to man the sign.

By: gdiafante on 3/19/12 at 11:38

Well, I just hope Tebow doesn't take this personally...if god had wanted him to be the quarterback of the Broncos, he would have answered all the Titans prayers.

lol

By: yogiman on 3/19/12 at 11:47

Children (yes, even you adults by age with your minimal brains),

There's much more for you poor fools to understand than what you're getting on this site. I hate to tell you this, but Barry Soetoro seems to have you by the b@ll$$ and you feel so good you don't know what he's doing. You ain't gonna like it when you get castrated, boys.

When those retired investigators looked into Barry for 6 months, they didn't start looking for anything negative, they were only looking for evidence. And, boy, did they find it!

There is so much evidence against him it should make you wonder how he got away with it. But I'd say he did a good job the way he suckered so many people in it, and you are obviously with that group.

If you can read, I'd suggest you just start with his fake birth certificate, then read his autobiography.

By: gdiafante on 3/19/12 at 11:53

Shut your hole, yogi, and let the adults talk.

By: yogiman on 3/19/12 at 11:58

Sorry, gdiafarte,

You "adults" are obviously adults in body only. You still have a long way to go to get there mentally because of your lack of intelligence.

You don't seem to have the ability to think very well.

By: gdiafante on 3/19/12 at 12:04

**ignoring the idiot troll**

By: jvh2b on 3/19/12 at 12:07

Loner - Yes...you are 100% correct in your interpretation! =)

By: brrrrk on 3/19/12 at 12:18

Now that Santorum has come out "guns-a-blazin'" against pornography, we can all see who the real anti-stimulus candidate is.....

By: gdiafante on 3/19/12 at 12:22

Brrrrk, notice that the party of "no government meddling in the economy" is now hammering Obama for high gas prices...I seem to remember them giving Bush a pass because the President doesn't really affect global oil prices...

What hypocrites!

By: BenDover on 3/19/12 at 12:30

Peyton realized what I've been saying all week. If Adams won't let his Head Coach run the offense who really believes he'll give the QB any autonomy?

I'm really surprised Arizona passed on Manning. Good luck with the Bronco Peyton. I'd like to see you get another Ring or Two.

Tebow would be welcome in Jacksonville I suspect. I lived there for about 6 months... great little town. I'd love to go back for a while.

By: gdiafante on 3/19/12 at 12:32

I suspect that he may very well win at least another one, Ben. Now, had he gone to SF, it was practically guaranteed.

By: yogiman on 3/19/12 at 12:41

gdiafante,

Wanna see something interesting? If you've got the time for it, watch the "possee's" report on their findings on the www.wnd/arpaio-report/

Let me know what you think.

By: yogiman on 3/19/12 at 12:45

Sorry, I left a word out, that should have been www.wnd.com/arpaio-report

By: BenDover on 3/19/12 at 12:47

Actually Obama's meddling is what has hurt us gd. He's trying to take credit for for private drilling expansion and public leases written on W's watch but on his we've been stagnate. We went through the moratorium on the gulf drilling and permits are still as sparse as hens teeth.

He blocked the Keystone pipeline... thus more oil will be shunted to China rather than sent to the US. ... Plus there's always Anwar... the every-present mother lode that we are constantly banned from developing.

He tries to blame middle east instability on oil costs as if he's got nothing to do with middle east instability (hello Egypt, Libya and a now Nuclear Iran).

Then the old Democrat stand-by... "well if we issue the permits now it'll be 2 years before they come on line". They've been saying that same sh*t for the last 10 years.

And don't bore me with the WH talking points on all of this. It's been bouncing off the walls of the media spin cycle long enough that everyone knows it all by heart. Obama will get a pass but the whole hypocrisy charge on the Republicans is bunk. Obama is no friend of oil development.

We're already seeing $3.75 gas in March... we don't usually get the spike for the summer blend change-out until late April or Early May so I think the worst is yet to come.

The reason for this is that Chu was picked and directed to block fossil energy at every opportunity and to focus on untenable 'green' energy alternatives by giving massive dollars to the likes of Solandra, et al, so they can recycle it back into the Obama election campaign.

By: gdiafante on 3/19/12 at 1:05

Speculation is responsible, Ben. It's cyclical.

By: BenDover on 3/19/12 at 1:20

Mighty generous with those hall passes there gd. In the mean time a lot of people who can't afford it are really getting hurt right now and green energy closing the gap ain't gonna happen any time soon.

By: gdiafante on 3/19/12 at 1:23

And that diatribe is all good and well, though inaccurate. I'd argue that weather (mild winter, early spring, floods along the MS river, etc), the declining dollar, ME instability and speculators are more to blame than any U.S. Government policy.

And let's just be honest here, price increases have nothing to do with supply and demand anymore. It's all about the commodity traders. That's the problem.

They could institute a simple solution: require traders to take possession of what they buy.

By: gdiafante on 3/19/12 at 1:25

I'd say that people can afford it better this time than in 2008, which created a serious shock to the system. We've had almost four years to prepare.

Interestingly, we've been having this debate since the 1970's and we're no closer to alternative energy.

By: BenDover on 3/19/12 at 1:28

“Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.” Stephen Chu, Obama Energy Secretary

By: yogiman on 3/19/12 at 1:29

Isn't the performer responsible for acts of treason, gdiafante? Just speculation wouldn't make you responsible if someone else performed it unless they were operating on your advice, then you're in the game with them..

By: BenDover on 3/19/12 at 1:31

It's another case of Obama going out and doing whatever the hell he wants to and when the results come to bear; the media helps him cover it all up with spin.

Obama wants American's paying European gas prices so that his green energy boondoggle will continue to pay off.

By: gdiafante on 3/19/12 at 1:34

That's misleading, Ben. When he said that, he wasn't Energy Secretary. I expect better of you.

It's no more different than if I said it. Now, put it in context and demonstrate how Obama's official policy has been to raise prices (which would have to be much higher than $4/gal, by the way), then you'd have an argument.

By: gdiafante on 3/19/12 at 1:36

I argued in 2008 that Bush wasn't responsible for high gas prices, and I'll argue the same for Obama. There are too many outside forces involved. That's a simple fact that is, naturally, being lost due to the election cycle.

By: Rasputin72 on 3/19/12 at 1:47

Three tours in Iraq and an unexpected deployment to Afghanistan. I would imagine that this would send over 60% of the senators and congressmen into spasmodic hell. The man jumped time and I feel badly for him.

By: BenDover on 3/19/12 at 1:47

On this one I think we're going to have to disagree gd.

Invest tax dollars in green energy if you like but these are stated goals of the administration. Worst is that all of this amounts to a regressive non-value-added tariff that hurts the people on the bottom of the income scale worse than anyone else.

The only winners are the green energy companies (insolvent without the assist - and sometimes even with it); and the Obama war chest, by extension.

By: BenDover on 3/19/12 at 1:49

Have you noticed though that the media is apoplectic in making excuses for gas prices this time? I don't remember any of that in '08.

By: gdiafante on 3/19/12 at 2:03

I suppose we will. And as I said, we've been debating prices since the 1970's. I don't see that promoting alternative sources is bad.

In regards to the Keystone pipeline, there was no certainty that it would lower prices or increase supply. If I remember, once it leaves the refinery, it would probably have gone to Central America.

In regards to the Middle East, two wars...a possible war with Iran...yes, this instability contributes to higher oil prices. To say that it's the policy though...well you have a point with the wars. That is the policy. In that case, you would have to blame Bush for higher prices too, since he started both.

In Libya, it could have been worse. We could have put boots on the ground. That certainly would have caused uncertainty with oil prices. It would seem that, in this case, Obama's policy was the better choice.

Now, if we let the war drum beat, as Republicans would like, I suspect that you would have European gas prices here.

By: gdiafante on 3/19/12 at 2:04

Honestly, Ben, I don't really pay attention to the media. Given your posts, you shouldn't either.

By: Kosh III on 3/19/12 at 2:16

"He blocked the Keystone pipeline... thus more oil will be shunted to China rather than sent to the US. "
WRONG

During congressional hearings, Rep Markey asked the head of TransCanada how much refined gasoline would be sold in the US.
ZERO.
When Rep asked him to reconsider he flatly refused.

All that oil will end up in COMMUNIST China.

By: brrrrk on 3/19/12 at 2:32

Kosh III said

"During congressional hearings, Rep Markey asked the head of TransCanada how much refined gasoline would be sold in the US.
ZERO.
When Rep asked him to reconsider he flatly refused."

TransCanada's own report stated that gas prices will go up in the Midwest as a result of the Keystone pipeline....

By: yogiman on 3/19/12 at 3:28

Just curious: Isn't it interesting how much the news media has found out about Sgt. Bales in one week but haven't been able to find out anything about Barack Obama in more than three years?

Makes me wonder....

By: Loner on 3/19/12 at 5:53

Back from my protest gig...lots of supportive horn honking etc. ..my protest partner, Diana, was there too. She's got a lot of energy...very nice lady.

Yogi the Bear is becoming a pathetic embarrassment? (Pronounced: Em-bear-ass-mint). He eats nuts & Barrys, then excretes usurper comments....thankfully, it's easy to see where the bear sh*t in the buckwheat...just ignore the bear droppings.

As for the Keystone pipeline controversy...there are two elements there that I like, "stone" & "pipe"...they can keep their "lines" and their "keys"....Congress should lock them out...and throw away the keys.

BTW, extracting oil from tar sands leaves a permanent scar upon the land...or is that just Greenie BS? This pipeline would move crude oil extracted from tar sands, right? Sounds like dirty business all the way around....dirty politics...dirty product.

As for the price of gasoline under Bush and Cheney and today, under Obama and Biden, that was then and this is now...whole new ballgame, Ben....or is it?

Same Energy Lobby donors supported both the Bush and Obama regimes, as I recall...they tend to hedge their bets..no matter who wins the election, they are beholden to the Energy Lobby...but historically, Energy interests have given more to Republican candidates than to Dems.

The idea that Obama would deliberately let gas prices soar, in order to advance his secret green energy agenda is quite a stretch, Ben. Obama knows that if gas prices double by November...a distinct possibility...he is toast....if anyone wants gasoline prices to stabilize or go down it is the US President...regardless of political party.

If Israel strikes Iran this Spring or Summer, US gasoline prices could quickly double....let us pray that Netanyahu and the Likud hawks do not succeed in ousting Obama from power, by way of a war-related economic meltdown in September or October.

Could Santorum or Romney whip Obama under those circumstances? I believe that either one could.

By: yogiman on 3/19/12 at 8:08

Loner,

I'm gonna post my argument with y'all until election day on what I post on this site about Barack Obama. It seems you and your local cohorts feel it's okay for y'all to post what you wish, about whatever subject you're on, but I should "keep my mouth shut" because you don't agree with me and don't like what I'm posting. So be it.

I will argue for my Constitutional rights in the 1st Amendment that you are using as yours.

Now, you can argue all you wish about Israel or any other subject you wish. I'm going to argue about the usurper in office whether you like it or not.

I agree, you and your cohorts don't like what I'm posting. But then, I don't like what y'all are posting about some of your objections, so let's call it even; OK?