Up for Debate: Should Curry worry?

Wednesday, October 12, 2011 at 10:05pm

State Rep. Curry Todd (R-Collierville), chief sponsor of the controversial "guns in bars" bill, was arrested in Nashville Tuesday night. Todd was picked up by Metro Police and charged with DUI and possession of a handgun while under the influence. He was released on $3,000 bond. On Wednesday, Todd said he would meet with House Speaker Beth Harwell to determine his future status as chairman of the State and Local Government Committee. Your thoughts?  

 

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By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 3:13

Poetic justice.

By: govskeptic on 10/13/11 at 5:18

Todd will surely lose his Committee Speaker ship, and Yes, even his
gun carry permit. As to resigning from the office he will take the course
all democrats take and that is not resign and leave it up to the voters.
A course in posing for photographs from a professional is optional
but highly suggested as well. Expectation of maximum Press coverage
should be expected as well as a moral scolding by Gail Kerr!

By: govskeptic on 10/13/11 at 5:19

Sorry-"Committee Chairmanship".

By: dargent7 on 10/13/11 at 5:52

I never knew the face behind the idiotic law. Now we all do.
Nice mug shot. Looks like he has about a 50 IQ.
Allowing loaded guns in Nashville's hundreds of bars (and they cannot drink) is insane.
Tell me these yo-yo's didn't have a few brewskis while mowing the lawn or changing the tractor's oil earlier in the day?
Aren't on some type of medication?
Patronizing a bar and ordering a glass of warm milk or a Coke wastes the bartenders and waitstaff's time and space.
Stay home and wax your pistols.

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 6:12

Good morning, Nashville.

I saw the mug shot too, Darge; either he's sh*t-faced or brain damaged.This is the guy who said that Mexicans breed like rats. I love it when racist, gun-toting A-holes are hoist on their own petards.

If there is any justice in TN, this joker gets to spend some time behind bars with the brothers and the "rats".

By: dargent7 on 10/13/11 at 6:19

L'ner: If it's his 1st offence, he'll just get his wrist slapped.
People here worship guns.
Mary Winkler shot-gunned her sleeping husband, served 9 months, got out AND her three children back.
The court didn't want the youngin's "orphaned".
This guy's mug shot is right there with Nick Nolte's or Lindsay Lohans for "wacked-out".
At least Michael Jackson had time to put on some lipstick and rouge.

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 6:20

If a black man was caught by the Nashville police, driving drunk, in a vehicle that reeked of alcohol, with a loaded handgun on the front seat, you know that dude would be facing serious jail time...let's have some equal opportunity here, for Mr. Curry Todd, the Caucasian cracker. A black man in that situation would have been provoked and tasered?

No tasers? Easy bail? WTF? Curry is already getting white man's justice, IMO.

By: dargent7 on 10/13/11 at 6:22

"I thought the gun was loaded...." "It's not, but you are."
W.C. Fields, The Bank Dick.

By: yogiman on 10/13/11 at 6:23

I guess its a shame Curry isn't equal in mentality than you anti-gunners. Too many criminals have guns and too many honest citizens don't.

Curry did not pull that gun on the officer, he just had it in the car for self protection against any criminal that might attack him, drunk or sober.

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 6:26

Yeah, Darge, Curry will hire the best lawyers and avoid any jail time...this will cost him some big money and possibly his job...could drive the man to drink?

Perhaps you have served this slow-witted slobbering SOB, Darge, does he look familiar?

By: Kosh III on 10/13/11 at 6:28

Curry had a gun and was drunk. That is a criminal offense. Period.

One does not have to be anti-gun, just pro-law. He broke the law, he should accept responsibility and go to jail for his CRIME.

By: Funditto on 10/13/11 at 6:31

WOW Yogi - your blind loyalty is over the top. I suppose you would say if the gun had gone off on anyone, it would have been the victim's fault.

By: treehugger7 on 10/13/11 at 6:32

Is he the one who called hispnics "hispaniels?

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 6:32

Yogi jumps to Curry's defense; drunken gunners have their rights too....I expect that Serr8d, Bud and Ben will have sympathy for the poor devil.

In NY, refusal to take the breathalyzer test, or a blood alc. test is tantamount to a guilty plea....they throw the book at the refuseniks. What's the deal in TN?

By: treehugger7 on 10/13/11 at 6:33

Sorry shb hispanics.

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 6:43

No, Treehugger, he used scientific taxonomy terminology, he called Hispanics members of the species Rattus mexicanus, as I recall. They "breed like rats", according to the drunken gun-toter and TN lawmaker.

One wonders if Curry has a hood & sheet stashed somewhere....rebel flag too.

Good to see Kosh and Funditto posting here again.

By: dargent7 on 10/13/11 at 6:44

The whole episode is one right out of the Congressional playbook.
Elected officials who staunchly oppose gay rights, then are caught in Men's Rooms doing circle dances to get a hummer.
(not the car, yogi).
Or, chasing their pages around the desk fondeling them.
(not female, yogi).
Driving drunk is the salient charge.
All I want to know is his BAC level.
Let him keep his loaded gun. Take away his license to kill, ie., the car.
Period.

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 6:51

The irony and poetic justice of this story is sufficient to catapult the guy to national infamy, for a few hours, if this is a slow news day.

This Curry Todd case touches several passion points: DW-DUI, 2nd Amendment rights, guns in bars laws, Tea Party politics, corruption-ineptness in elected officials, racial bigotry, white man's justice etc.

Perfect for a PBS story.

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 6:53

5th Amendment rights are also involved here, refusing a DUI test is exercising your 5th Amendment rights, isn't it?

Hey, Ben Dover, please weigh in.

By: dargent7 on 10/13/11 at 7:01

L'ner:
I think refusing a BreathLyzer or a blood sample is within your right, but you will loose your license and be jailed.
On the positive side, there's this new hot chick who advertises all the time, "Grumpy's" bail-bonds.
I think yogi started to drink heavily again just to get arrested and bailed out by her.

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 7:02

This goes beyond the DWI-DUI charge, Darge...this guy stepped in real deep doo-doo. I agree, drunks should not drive....and drunks should not have a gun within arm's reach, whether driving, or not, IMO.

Again, you saw the mug shots, did you ever serve that guy...just curious, Darge. I understand that you have served thousands over your three decade career...so, if you can't say for sure, I understand. Beer man, wine or liquor?....only his bartender knows for sure....and his gunsmith.

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 7:14

The libertarian in me has trouble with the notion that refusal to undergo chemical testing for substance abuse prosecution is an admission of guilt. But that noble ship sailed years ago; workplace drug-testing and DWI tests are generally accepted as a case of the ends justifying the means...it's "settled law". Real freedom has been exchanged for perceived security.

New technologies will come forward in the coming years. Someday, one may be found guilty of a crime(s) by refusing to take a brain probe test...or refusing to take the "truth serum" prior to interrogation...or refusing to undergo all sorts of truth machine testing....we have started down that slippery slope and we are picking up speed....it's Orwellian.

By: dargent7 on 10/13/11 at 7:20

L'ner: Cruise over to The Tennessean today.
There's 50 comments, re: Todd, and lawyers are weighing in on the law.
Guy is a retired Memphis police officer....
If you lose your driver license, you automatically lose your carry permit.
Takes 5 years to get it back.
Refusing a BreathLyzer is an automatic 1 year revocation.
Stay tuned.

By: sidneyames on 10/13/11 at 7:23

sidneyames on 10/13/11 at 7:26
Motorshag on 10/12/11 at 1:01
"So he was arrested for presumably being drunk, and they found a gun in his car. You don't know if he was drunk yet, you can only speculate, because he has not gone to court yet. There is no mention of a blood or breath test. He has not been proven guilty yet. But yet, he is the worst person in the world to you gun haters. I hope and pray a guy like this is around when I need him, drunk or not, he is better off than the rest of you that want guns eradicated from the earth. Get a life you stupid 2nd amendment haters."

Sounds like you have a level head, Motorshag, ie, "innocent" until PROVEN guilty. And I agree with Kosh, if he is found guilty, do the time.

And the rest of you gun haters and illegal immigrant lovers need to take note: CALIFORNIA signed into law NO GUNS and they have the highest number of illegal immigrants on the planet. MOVE THERE. If you hate guns and love illegals so much, move to California and shut up with your complaints about Tennesee. Most of the people here ARE law abiding citizens. I am sure the family of that 19 year old shot because a racist supremist thought he was Jewish wishes their son HAD a gun and knew how to use it and how to discern WHEN to use it. Also, the supremist shot a man "because" he was black. These are the people we should fear. Not a legislator who makes a mistake now and then.

California is the place you ought to be if you hate guns and love to cater to and cowtow to illegals!

I wonder what those people in CA will do when someone like Charles Mansion breaks into their homes? Sharon Tate and all the people he killed should have had guns and known how to use them. We would not be paying for Manson and his Ilk to be fed, housed and clothed today if someone in Tate's home had a gun and knew how and when to use it.

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 8:01

I went over to the Tennesseean and left a post, Darge....I'll keep that BINGO card up alongside the others. I'm working four boards simultaneously.

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 8:02

Sidneyames is Budlight...do we agree on that?

By: BenDover on 10/13/11 at 8:09

It's a stupid law. They over-cranked the screws again. Drunks should be allowed to defend themselves too. I'd go for a 2nd amendment constitutional case here.

By: BenDover on 10/13/11 at 8:11

They nailed Steve McNair for the same thing Loner.

By: BenDover on 10/13/11 at 8:13

Only the gang-bangers are allowed to cruise the streets of Nashville with loaded weapons. Anyone abiding by the law after a beer or two is unarmed.

By: BenDover on 10/13/11 at 8:18

"...and drunks should not have a gun within arm's reach, whether driving, or not, IMO."

And just how the hell do you expect to shoot up road signs on your way home if your hog-leg is in the trunk, loner?

By: pswindle on 10/13/11 at 8:24

He should be treated as anyone else should be. He broket his own law.

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 8:37

I see your point, Ben Dover...road signs and mailboxes need to be shown who's the boss.
Armed drunks are entitled to a shot and a beer, right? Sheriff Matt Dillon thought of drunks at the Longbranch Saloon meant job security, for himself and Miss Kitty...(re:Gunsmoke)

Maybe what's called for here is a Designated Gunner program...similar to the Designated Driver program. Drinkers may need a Designated Driver and a Designated Gunner; but some chauffeurs could perform both duties...Gunner-Driver.

The legal and social costs of a DWI are so high, that hiring professional Designated Gunner-Drivers may be the cheapest and best way to go. Maybe that expense could be a tax write-off....it's a public safety contribution, right?

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 8:48

McNair was not provoked and tasered; but he is a known celebrity. The average black dude in that same situation may not have been treated with the same civility as an NFL star was treated.

Was that response to my post on the Tennessean from you, Ben?

By: brrrrk on 10/13/11 at 8:54

Why we's is good God-fearin', gun-totin', law-abidin' folks here in Tennessee... There's no way one of us would do somethin' so stoopid like gettin' drunker'n Cooter Brown and drive around.... and fur shur not with a loaded gun in the car. Why, that would be just plain ol' ig-nert. It just ain't a gonna happen. - Curry Todd, poster boy.

By: brrrrk on 10/13/11 at 8:57

Loner said

"Sidneyames is Budlight...do we agree on that?"

Yes, Bud "not so bright" light is indeed Sidiot.

By: BenDover on 10/13/11 at 9:02

No loner... .I only have time, with work, for this one little bingo card.

What did you think I said?

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 9:05

Thanks, Brrrrrk....I thought that had been established....she's bipolar...schizoid? Or just plain weird?

By: brrrrk on 10/13/11 at 9:08

Loner,

All of the above...... :-)

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 9:08

One comment was deleted before I even saw it, the other was from a guy calling himself justplainuts. Here's the URL:

http://www.tennessean.com/comments/article/20111013/NEWS02/310130046/DUI-gun-charge-put-TN-lawmaker-s-career-doubt

Yeah, I got work to do too, Ben...time to wind the BINGO down....see ya around 4:20...at least that's my plan.

By: Loner on 10/13/11 at 9:09

LOL Brrrrk....I gotta roll.

By: dargent7 on 10/13/11 at 9:14

This pervasive concept, here in Nashville, (I live 3.5 miles from downtown), is that gang-bangers "roam the street" at will, raping our women and sexually assulting our children.
The Police precint is at Broadway and 7th, for God's sake.
What toatal, 100% bullshit.
The g-bangers DO NOT go out with their family and friends to Shoney's and I-Hop for a early evening dinner. Other patrons DO NOT need a gun for protection.
They DO come out after 2:00am and roam alleys.
I don't think anyone posting here is out at 2:00am, needing a gun to "protect one's self".
If you need a gun, don't leave your house.

By: dargent7 on 10/13/11 at 9:21

I, for one, don't think SidneyAmes is "Bud Light".
Her vernacular is way different.
I think, however, she is "Scorpio" in the Zodiac murders.

By: Mike Burch on 10/13/11 at 9:21

The idea that we will be "safer" if drunken rednecks like Curry Todd are allowed to pack heat in bars and restaurants is ludicrous.

After assuring anyone dumb enough to listen that people with gun permits can be trusted not to drink, the sponsor of the whole mess proved it was all a fairytale.

By: BenDover on 10/13/11 at 9:26

Ahhh.... blow it out your @$$ Burch...

By: brrrrk on 10/13/11 at 9:29

Mike Burch said

"After assuring anyone dumb enough to listen that people with gun permits can be trusted not to drink, the sponsor of the whole mess proved it was all a fairytale."

As I said in an earlier post, Todd is the poster boy for the naïveté of this states attitude towards guns and drinking.

By: BenDover on 10/13/11 at 9:35

Conservatives are chastened by their principle of imperfectability. Human nature suffers irremediably from certain grave faults, the conservatives know. Man being imperfect, no perfect social order ever can be created. Because of human restlessness, mankind would grow rebellious under any utopian domination, and would break out once more in violent discontent—or else expire of boredom. To seek for utopia is to end in disaster, the conservative says: we are not made for perfect things. All that we reasonably can expect is a tolerably ordered, just, and free society, in which some evils, maladjustments, and suffering will continue to lurk. By proper attention to prudent reform, we may preserve and improve this tolerable order. But if the old institutional and moral safeguards of a nation are neglected, then the anarchic impulse in humankind breaks loose: “the ceremony of innocence is drowned.” The ideologues who promise the perfection of man and society have converted a great part of the twentieth-century world into a terrestrial hell.

Russel Kirk - Rule 6 from Ten Conservative Principles

http://tinyurl.com/KirkTop10

By: BenDover on 10/13/11 at 9:40

And, as always, the marxist ideal guide-stone behind wanting to chip at our constitutional liberties:

“While an equality of rights under a limited government is possible and an essential condition of individual freedom, a claim for equality of material position can be met only by a government with totalitarian powers.” [emphasis mine]

― F. A. Hayek, Law, Legislation and Liberty, Volume 2

By: dargent7 on 10/13/11 at 9:41

Let's get back to the law:
Patrons who frequent a bar, carrying a loaded gun, CANNOT legally drink.
As I said 100 times before, they IRRITATE bartenders and the entire waitsaff...down to the hostess, busboy and dishwasher. They waste space and pre-clude TIPS.
They think they're John Wayne or Clint Eastwood sittin' there drinking a sweet tea or a Coke for 2-3 hours.
On the look-out for trouble to break out.
No bar staff...from the owners, managers, staff, worry about a gang-banger coming in and robbing the place.
They'll tip $1.00 whereas a drinker will tip $5.00 for the two Jack 'n Cokes or two beers.
Non-drinkers waste everyone's time in bars/ restaurants and you can argue this point with someone who gives a rat's ass.

By: brrrrk on 10/13/11 at 9:41

Ahhh yes, Russel Kirk..... I've read the Conservative Mind.... anti-democratic drivel.

By: brrrrk on 10/13/11 at 9:45

Here's the reality.... for all the guns rights absolutists protestation, Todd has proved that even they can't be guaranteed to be completely responsible gun owners when it comes right down to it.