Up for Debate: State Department accusations

Wednesday, June 12, 2013 at 1:40am

Are you shocked by the alleged behavior by State Department employees reported in a memo or do you believe such activity is probably more prevalent than the public expects? Do you believe it's too easy for government officials and employees to get away with or cover up such activity?

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86 Comments on this post:

By: Loner on 6/12/13 at 4:58

As long as Hillary Clinton remains the Democrat's top contender for the POTUS nomination in 2016, we can expect more accusations to be leveled against the State Department....this is an example of indirect character assassination... a witch hunt orchestrated by Republican operatives.

Any bureaucracy that is as bloated as the US State Department is bound to harbor a few rodent-types....this is not to condone or minimize the problem, it's just to put it into scale...the State Department employs about 50,000 people....according to Wiki:

11,500 Foreign Service employees
7,400 Civil Service employees
31,000 Foreign Service National employees

That's a large workforce....and there are those private contractors working for state...there will be saints...and there will be sinners in a group that large.

By: govskeptic on 6/12/13 at 5:08

The only surprise is that it has become public. Just like most of the nation's School
Systems, bad publicity is public enemy number one and must be avoided at all cost.
As is often the case, these are well paid employees that usually have been with the
State Dept for many years. For some odd reason they feel more privileged and
entitled to get away with more unprofessional conduct and actions than would ever
be allowed by most private sector employers.

In this particular report by the Inspector General's Office, they state their efforts were
hindered and scuttled as it got more and more disturbing information and shut down
by the higher ups in the Dept. Even an Ambassador, that's still on the job, is accused of using prostitutes within the unnamed country where he serves. These actions
leave all concerned open to Black Mail by the bad guys on many many fronts. Disgusting news to all Americans.

By: yogiman on 6/12/13 at 5:15

Accusations are just that; accusations. But proof is proof which presents the accusations as facts.

Too many government employees (from the president on down to the lowest grade employee) seek to take advantage of their employment using the money we tax payers pay for the privilege of living in the great USA .

It's ironical the government and news media can accuse a young man (Edward Snowden) of being a traitor for telling 'we the citizens' about our government monitoring our phone calls and issue all of the information available about his life in only 2 days; yet no government employee or news media source can find anything about the background of the man sitting in our Oval Office through all of the news sources. Even his legal name or place of birth.

By: govskeptic on 6/12/13 at 5:16

"Indirect character assassination"? May I point out this was an internal report and
or investigation instigated by the State Dept's own Inspector General and not at
all started or connected to the Republicans. "Bloated"is a good description of this
and most other departments, but arrogance, unprofessional, and incompetence
should and could be controlled if there was a true will to clean it up, versus using
it as an excuse to the public and continuance.

By: Libertine on 6/12/13 at 5:53

The behavior of a few isn't the story, the story is the coverup of their actions. It will barely get a mention since America has become desensitized by the constant stream of lies and corruption from the Obama Administration.

By: BenDover on 6/12/13 at 6:08

It's a politically appointed ambassador not a faceless 'employee'.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/12/13 at 6:53

yogi, have you penned your letter to John Boehner yet?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 6:55

The fact that budlight is working for the government gives evidence to my theory that the main reason governments were ever created, was to give stupid people a job.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 7:13

By: budlight on 6/12/13 at 3:46

Yogi, Blanket is smarter than anyone on the planet and tells us that daily.

Now if the old cow could remember this today, then she might recover some of her sanity.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 7:30

Loner, I see that you have not left for you retreat.

By: Rocket99 on 6/12/13 at 7:48

Not that any of this is good but, if this had happened in HCA, nothing would even be reported to the shareholders and it would be delt with internally. Since it's government, it's front page news because FOX doesn't know what real news is.

I have several news feeds on my PC I watch daily. It's way too easy to pick out the ones from the entertainment network which tries to pass itself off as a legit source of news. The Onion does a better job with their satire than that other company.

If this had happened under Bush's watch, no where near as much fuss would have been made about it. People are beating the dead horse beyond recognition.

Noticed that Jughead hasn't posted on this. Guess it's above his education level.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 7:55

Rocket99-

I think Jughead lost his I-phone after Channel 4 investigation.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/12/13 at 8:02

LOL, Nemo!

Rocket, I totally agree. BTW, The Onion does good satire. :)

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/12/13 at 8:08

It is amazing what HCA gets away with. And that's only for the things we know about!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/12/13 at 8:11

btw, I never thought I'd see the day that yogi is on the same side as the ACLU. I wonder if he realizes that? LOL

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 8:14

Blanket, I sure yogi has no clue that he is.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/12/13 at 8:14

You know what else is interesting about this whole thing with Snowden?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/nsa-revelations-put-booz-allen-hamilton-carlyle-group-in-uncomfortable-limelight/2013/06/11/8f4d9138-d2ca-11e2-a73e-826d299ff459_story.html

The Carlyle Group (think Bush family, the Saudi Royals, the bin Laden family) owns a majority of Booz Allen Hamilton (Snowden's company)

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/12/13 at 8:15

Maybe he should send this month's Tea Party support check to the ACLU instead.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 8:20

Wow, Blanket. Snowden could be just the tip of the….Snow-berg.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/12/13 at 8:48

LOL! I don't agree with all the snooping that the government is allowed to do under the Patriot Act however it's interesting to see how this unfolds. It's making for strange bedfellows.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 8:58

We the people tried to warn the fringe nuts, that the Patriot Act was not a good thing and now it has come to bit them on their deserving ass. We are just going to have to live with this mistake now and adapt to a new way of life.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 9:05

All we are going to hear from the fringe nuts to the right is how the liberals and Obama has ruined the country. They will spend more time whining and trying to blame this on everything, instead of facing what fools they are.

Strand Bedfellows, I say. I don’t feel sorry for them and I will shove their foolishness right back into their faces. Thanks a lot for nothing you so-called Patriotic Morons.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 9:08

I am surprise that BenDover has not compared the CCA, but then he might have stock into these companies.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/12/13 at 9:32

Yep, they'll try to blame Obama but this was put into place before him and therefore nothing that's going on is technically illegal. I'm mad that he extended it but you have to look at who in Congress was pushing to have it extended. If he didn't they be blaming him for making the U.S. less safe. Idiots.

By: Libertine on 6/12/13 at 9:37

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/27/patriot-act-extension-signed-obama-autopen_n_867851.html

Obama and the Democrats own the Patriot Act now. It expired and Obama and the Democrats extended it.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/12/13 at 9:41

Libertine, who in Congress voted to extend it? Obama couldn't do it on his own.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/12/13 at 9:41

Do you know the answer or do you need a link?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 9:43

Blanket-

The economic collapse started before Obama, but that did not stop them from pointing fingers at him. Two wars were started before Obama’s was elected and the right-wing says it is the fault of Obama. I can’t see them changing there strategy now. They have no other tactic, than to blame someone else for their screw-ups.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 9:46

Libertine prove my point.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/12/13 at 9:46

What kills me is they act like Obama does all this independently of Congress but they yell if he signs an Executive Order. Are they truly that ignorant of the process?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/12/13 at 9:46

Yes, he did Nemo.

By: BenDover on 6/12/13 at 9:49

FBI Patriot act 'requests' for records up 1000%.

This makes sense as there is much need to 'leak' such information to their political arm.

http://tinyurl.com/PatriotActRequestUp1000

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 10:04

Once again i can not get the like Ben.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/12/13 at 10:07

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/06/11/fbi-requests-for-records-under-patriot-act-have-increased-1000-in-just-four-years-update-data-mining-goes-deeper-than-thought/

Here you go, Nemo.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 10:17

Well Ben, there are other ways to destroy America other that by bombing. Cheating the government out of money do to the country, will weaken its ability to keep up its infrastructure. I consider that a passive attack to America.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 10:20

Thanks Blanket, I had found the link too.

By: brrrrk on 6/12/13 at 10:22

Blanketnazi2 said

"You know what else is interesting about this whole thing with Snowden?"

Maybe that he's a 29 year old kid whose only real academic creds are a GED, who seems to have been dipped in golden feces, who was making 6 healthy figures a year, who was living with a gorgeous dancer in Hawaii no less..... and he bolts from THAT!!!

By: BenDover on 6/12/13 at 10:26

This is all a distraction from the IRS and Benghazi debacles. It's actually working in Obama's favor not to his detriment.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/12/13 at 10:37

Ben, you're still holding on to those empty "scandals"?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 10:39

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 10:05

All we are going to hear from the fringe nuts to the right is how the liberals and Obama has ruined the country. They will spend more time whining and trying to blame this on everything, instead of facing what fools they are.

Strand Bedfellows, I say. I don’t feel sorry for them and I will shove their foolishness right back into their faces. Thanks a lot for nothing you so-called Patriotic Morons.
The fact that budlight is working for the government gives evidence to my theory that the main reason governments were ever created, was to give stupid people a job.

By: bfra on 6/12/13 at 10:45

Nemo - As much as bud keeps posting (nobody gets as many breaks, as she claims) on taxpayer's money, I wouldn't call it a JOB, she just got on the Gov. dole.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 10:49

Ben is proving my point.

By: bfra on 6/12/13 at 10:55

Ben proves the point of being like yogi & bud every time he post.

By: dargent7 on 6/12/13 at 10:57

I have no idea what they did.
I moved to San Diego yesterday....missed the ocean in San Jose'.
I love the statement, "If it happened under GW Bush's watch..."
As if 9/11, worse than Pearl Harbor, didn't happen "under his watch".
The president -elect starts getting PDB's and ramped up right after the Nov. 5th election, 3 full months before the whichever idiot(s) take office.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 11:00

I would not go that far about Ben, bfra. But he does fall into the rut of not facing up to the fact that the GOP is not prefect.

By: bfra on 6/12/13 at 11:06

Ben's comments are usually riddles, arrogant, not funny, don't make sense riddles.

By: dargent7 on 6/12/13 at 11:10

I'd advise everyone to read the recent Southern Tenn. Baptist's statement re: the inclusion of "gays" in the Scouts.
I'd join the Church of Satan, Scientology, and the Hare Krishnas all together before I'd become a Southern Baptist.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 11:25

Hello d7. I may come to Sad Diego next winter.

By: govskeptic on 6/12/13 at 11:25

The Patriot Act is a permanent law. What is being discussed now are two provisions
that require require the congress to let lapse or re-authorize. 2011 extension passed
the Senate 72-23 with only Rand Paul and 3 other Republicans opposing, in the House 250-153 favoring. So, unless changed this extension is in place until 6/2015.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/12/13 at 11:26

That is why I am recovering Southern Baptist, d7.