Up for Debate: TNDP chair

Monday, January 28, 2013 at 2:27am

On Saturday, the Tennessee Democratic Party elected Roy Herron as its new leader to replace Chip Forrester. What do you think of the choice? What do you think of the party as it stands now?

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By: Captain Nemo on 1/28/13 at 3:47

Lets hope they will be better than the last bunch and far better than the GOP.

By: Ask01 on 1/28/13 at 4:41

I confess I don't know very much about Mr. Herron.

To be perfectly honest, the "chair," much like the one Clint Eastwood spoke to, embarrassing himself and the Republican Party, is sort of a figurehead. The actual power resides in the people comprising the party.

The gerrymmandered districts did little to help, and the propensity for Republican candidates to pander to voters basest fears, while Democrats tried to be reasonable was another problem, Many undecideds fell for the Tea Party's simple minded rhetoric.

As the elected officials continue to come out of the closet and show their true face, I believe the reasonable voters will abandon the wild eyed lunatic fringe and return Tennessee to the Democratic fold.

Of course, another problem could the racist attitudes of many putting in Republicans to punish Democrats for putting an African American in the White House.

By: Loner on 1/28/13 at 7:03

Good morning, Nashville.

When hypocrites and incompetents like Curry Todd and Scott Desjarlais can retain their seats, after pulling bone-headed stunts like they did, then the Democratic Party in Tennessee is functionally non-existent.

The Repubilicanization of Southern ignorance & bigotry, what Tricky Dick Nixon started in 1968, has been completed in the former confederacy. The Party of Lincoln is now the party of secessionists, white supremacists, Jesus freaks, Israel-firsters, environmental polluters, anti-union scabs, gun nuts, rednecks and A-holes....enjoy!

By: gdiafante on 1/28/13 at 7:08

I believe the reasonable voters will abandon the wild eyed lunatic fringe and return Tennessee to the Democratic fold.

That will never happen. To many rednecks. They believe the second coming is near and this time Jesus is packing an AK47.

http://tinyurl.com/bhayz2g

By: yogiman on 1/28/13 at 7:09

I hoped racism had left the USA when LBJ got his desegregation bill passed in 1965 Ask01, but it's apparently still here in too many of the Democrat's corners.

Did the party go from "common sense to nonsense" when the members elected Mr. Herron as it's 'chair'? The Democrat party showed it's nonsense when they picked a candidate who wasn't constitutionally eligible for the Oval Office.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/28/13 at 7:12

The chair can lead and direct the party in a direction toward leadership. Looking for and encouraging new people for public office.

By: Loner on 1/28/13 at 7:19

Great link, Gd...LOL material.

But seriously, millions of otherwise reasonable Americans believe that the crucified Jewish carpenter from the West Bank is coming back real soon...and yes, he's packing heat....the streets will run red with the blood of the non-believers....once the unconvinced Jews, the infidels and the back-sliders have been cast into the Lake of Fire, Jesus will then remove his crown of thorns and put on a golden crown, then he will rule the earth for one thousand years....this is the fantasy of Divine Right Monarchists, not small "d" democrats....scratch a Republican, and the monarchist underneath the paint reveals their true identity....they long for a king....not for a great POTUS and Congress.

By: Loner on 1/28/13 at 7:23

Will somebody please put our usurper troll out of his misery? This is like witnessing an abandoned pet writhing in pain every day.....give him the needle already....just kidding, of course....heh...heh.

By: bfra on 1/28/13 at 7:28

Loner - Can a brain dead person feel anything? If not, the usurper would never know when the needle went in.

By: Kosh III on 1/28/13 at 7:28

Herron needs to 1) find and support viable candidates with broad appeal.
2) Vigorously put forth genuine Democratic values, not me-too RepublicanLite: equality, personal responsibility, rejection of the GOP Nanny-state mentality, economic development that is fair to all, not just the top few.

By: treehugger7 on 1/28/13 at 7:30

I wish someone could take us out of our misery by electing dems. What the heck is in the water in TN that makes so many people so STUPID?

By: Loner on 1/28/13 at 7:36

Good suggestions, Kosh....the Dems need to highlight the differences between the two parties and convince voters that they are on the right track...that's a tall order.

Hugger, all that nuclear WMD testing in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, during WW2 and the Cold War, may have had more "fallout" than is commonly recognized....did the military secretly test a "Stupefying Agent" in the Volunteer State?

By: Captain Nemo on 1/28/13 at 7:40

Bobby Jindal called the GOP, the stupid party. The dim wit from Gordonsville is a good example.

By: Rasputin72 on 1/28/13 at 7:42

Personally, I find myself only remotely connected to the Democratic party in Tennessee. I know Chip Forrester and find him quite odd but very likeable. I have childhood friends of the working class who are staunch Democrats.

We agreed years ago never to discuss politics. In Florida I have a couple of Jewish golf buddies that are Democrats when it comes to National politics and Republicans when it comes to local politics.

At my club in Nashville which I have been a member for 25 years I know a Lawyer and the head of a very large commercial real estate firm who are Democrats. Obviously my conection with the Democratic party is limited by
association.

I have always wondered however why the Democratic party in Tennessee does not have more of its leaders come from the housing projects since that is where I see their core strength.
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By: Captain Nemo on 1/28/13 at 7:43

Good point bfra. It has been dead for years, but to stupid to know it.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/28/13 at 7:47

Raspy old boy you are remotely connected to the human race. More like a sub spices oh humanity.

By: treehugger7 on 1/28/13 at 7:50

Good point, Loner...I had not thought of that! Explains a lot!

By: gdiafante on 1/28/13 at 7:50

I think it's interesting that so many GOPers are on the record that they have to find ways of getting people to vote for them but aren't really talking about their platform...they talk about who they need to reach out to more...minorities...but in a Republic, where the government is supposedly of the people, by the people and for the people, it's not the people that need to change, it's the GOP.

Of course we know that that really means...gerrymandering. They're already trying to manipulate the EC to their advantage...

http://tinyurl.com/ab28wko

And we know how they narrowlyretained the House...

http://tinyurl.com/aczqzeh

Apparently, if you can't beat them, change the rules so you can. That's the new, improved GOP.

By: Loner on 1/28/13 at 7:52

Bobby Jindal is in no position to call anybody, "stupid".

The guy rejected his family's traditional religious beliefs and became an exorcizing, evangelical Catholic...he started calling himself, "Bobby", because he liked the "Bobby" character on a TV sitcom, ( Eight is Enough")....Jindal adopted the values of a Southern, middle-aged, white man and entered politics as the kind of "minority" person that the GOP loves....it's the Uncle Tom effect....Jindal gives the GOP a fig-leaf of tolerance, multiculturalism and diversity to hide behind....he's a token and he's being exploited....but he's too stupid to realize it....or so it appears.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/28/13 at 7:57

The GOP spend to much time trying to rig the elections, by passing laws that make it difficult for people to vote, or jury rigging districts.

By: Loner on 1/28/13 at 8:07

Gd...it's all perfectly legal...apparently, gerrymandering and accepting campaign financing "donations" were not foreseen by the framers of the US Constitution...since they were not specifically outlawed, and since money is the mother's milk of US politics, they became a grim reality.

Sadly, the original system was vulnerable to subversion, perversion and exploitation by ambitious politicians and their backers. The political parties have had two centuries to defeat the Founder's Plan....they have done a pretty good hatchet job on the original compact.

By: Loner on 1/28/13 at 8:11

It's all about winning elections.....once elected, the lawmakers follow their orders, as dictated by the special interests. This is the root of our problem today; we no longer have "statesmen"...we are governed by the paymasters of the election winners.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/28/13 at 8:13

Loner, there was a Constitution History Professor on one of the talk show yesterday, saying that it was written by people who live 200 years in the past. Maybe it should be rewritten.

By: Loner on 1/28/13 at 8:18

Rasp wrote: "At my club in Nashville which I have been a member for 25 years I know a Lawyer and the head of a very large commercial real estate firm who are Democrats."

I thought that they shut down the gay bath-house "clubs" in Nashville.....just sayin'.....

By: Captain Nemo on 1/28/13 at 8:20

It is just another one of his fantasy Loner.

By: Loner on 1/28/13 at 8:23

Captain: Since amending the Constitution requires 2/3 of the states, to ratify the proposal, positive change is extremely unlikely...the rise of the Christian and right-wing media has polarized the nation as never before....compromise is out of the question....we are stuck with an obsolete, tattered and hammered-upon document, to serve as our guide into the future.

By: budlight on 1/28/13 at 8:24

By: treehugger7 on 1/28/13 at 7:30
I wish someone could take us out of our misery by electing dems. What the heck is in the water in TN that makes so many people so STUPID?

Tree. you live in TN, so does that makes you stupid also? Think about this for a while: The GOP has an elephant for it's symbol; elephants are loyal and good animals. The democrats have a donkey, also known as a jacka$$. Stubborn and obstinate and won't budge an inch. The democrats picked a donkey for a reason.

Stop trying to build yourself up by putting everyone else down. We are all on this planet for a reason. Let's all try to get along.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/28/13 at 8:28

Loner, there are many people leaving the church. Its influence in waning.

http://organicfaith.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/why-are-so-many-people-leaving-the-church/

By: Captain Nemo on 1/28/13 at 8:31

Stop trying to build yourself up by putting everyone else down. We are all on this planet for a reason. Let's all try to get along.

Practice what you preach…COW.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/28/13 at 8:36

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By: Loner on 1/28/13 at 8:38

With John Kerry at State, will their budget increase.....to reflect the dramatic increase in hair-spray purchases? The guy is a freakin' fire hazard....potential terrorists won't need an incendiary device...one spark and POOF!!

I thought that Newt and his wife, Caligula, had the "hair helmet" look...but Kerry has them both beat...the man's gone from a shaggy Vietnam War Protester, to a Liberace look-alike.

Early Kerry:
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRh_GEubqpVUuCm03UkoB73iPiPhGzhYPEDKc2xgTQgwbphejCDBg

Today's Kerry:
http://uptownmagazine.com/files/2012/12/uptown_johnkerry.jpg

Liberace:
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/L/Liberace-9381642-1-402.jpg

By: gdiafante on 1/28/13 at 8:40

We are all on this planet for a reason. Let's all try to get along.

Yeah, we're here because our parents were horny.

By: gdiafante on 1/28/13 at 8:41

I thought that Newt and his wife, Caligula,...

You owe me $70 for a new monitor...my old one is drenched in coffee now...

By: pepawjoe on 1/28/13 at 8:41

While our seventhy year grows closer and closer, I can't see much change in Tn's Democrat Party. No grooming for an office. Name recognization outside close surroundings of candidate's resident. Little to no real actions by the Party Leadership for it's candidates.
The colors of "RED" are just almost a give-me at election time. Hoping won't fix the problems either.
$$ MONEY $$ is a major problem in all elections. When our "Already Elected" Candidates want and seek this "SECRET MONEY PITS", Tn will stay "RED" even longer.

By: Loner on 1/28/13 at 8:47

Phil Bredesen was the last of the elected Democrats in Tennessee? Of course, he's a "carpetbagger", from Shortsville, NY.....a tiny berg about 40 miles from here....in the Finger Lakes region.

Phil was GOP-Lite?

By: Loner on 1/28/13 at 8:50

Sorry, Gd....you should take out a "Spit Take Policy" on your equipment...mine is covered...premiums are quite low....there's a $500 dollar deductible, however.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/28/13 at 8:53

You hit the nail on the head pepawjoe. The main reason that the TDNP is so weak is due to Gov Ned McWherter. He only appointed his cronies to office of power and never groomed. I can say that I never voted for him or his son, Mike.

By: Rasputin72 on 1/28/13 at 8:54

I guess the rabble who dominate this board are not interested in why more leaders in theDemocratic party do not come from the lower class and the housing projects.

Could it be that they are more interested in class envy?

People like me disrupt their life before cremation.

By: gdiafante on 1/28/13 at 8:55

You'd be hard pressed to find a lot of people who didn't like Phil around here, Loner. That's why he was mayor of Nashville and governor of TN. I think Dean would like to follow in those footsteps but he doesn't have the bipartisan support that Bredesen enjoyed.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/28/13 at 9:02

Raspy old boy you have no class to be envy of.

By: gdiafante on 1/28/13 at 9:02

I guess the rabble who dominate this board are not interested in why more leaders in theDemocratic party do not come from the lower class and the housing projects.

Um...the defacto head of the Democrats...you know, the President...how about Bill Clinton...two of arguably the most successful Democrats of our time. Other than that, you have a point.

Of course, if you come from too much poverty, you get yogi whining about how you can't possibly be eligible.

By: slacker on 1/28/13 at 9:11

Herron would be wise to seek the counsel of Bredesen. Phil is a smart guy, and has appeal outside of Davidson county. Obama should have involved him in healthcare discussions.

By: yogiman on 1/28/13 at 9:16

I hate to tell you this, Loner, but the Republicans had a legitimate candidate running for office. Your dumboldcrap party bent over backward to put an illegal man on their ticket and you people had better wake up before it's too late.

Why do you think the federal government is buying millions of hollow point bullets? Wake up, Loner, before it's too late.

By: Loner on 1/28/13 at 9:23

Like I said....an abandoned pet, writhing in agony....is that not our usurper troll? Merciful heavens...how long can the man's suffering go on?

By: bfra on 1/28/13 at 9:24

I guess the rabble who dominate this board are not interested in why more leaders in theDemocratic party do not come from the lower class and the housing projects.
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NO Raspy, the rabble (you) don't dominate this board with your made up fantasy ego! You just clutter it up with your nonsense that, from all indications, no one but yogi & possibly bud buy into.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/28/13 at 9:25

Haslam was an excellent man for the governor. The Democrats had a weak candidate in Mike McWherter and the Republican has a bunch of Screwball Right-wing Tea Baggers. I think Tennessee did right in its choice.

By: slacker on 1/28/13 at 9:25

Loner, Kerry's dew is bonded with a mixture of clear Hunt's Catsup. After drying, Lurch's Pompadour..can withstand winds of 100+ mph. No worries about roadside bombs, when he travels the mid-east, 50 cal. rounds bounce off the dew.. like rice krispies.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/28/13 at 9:28

“Wake up before it is too late,” said the idiot stepping into traffic.

By: slacker on 1/28/13 at 9:36

Kerry will be a successful SOS. World leaders will be putty in his hair..er..hand.
Kerry's unending, boring the s#$% out of you droning, will drive leaders to agree to anything. Large shipments of Hunt's Catsup, will soon be popping up in world capitals.. Lurch finally found his calling.

By: Loner on 1/28/13 at 9:37

Clear Hunt's catsup....sounds plausible, Slack. The smell of catsup usually attracts seagulls; they hang around the fast food places, eagerly waiting for the tossed bag of half-eaten chow. Hopefully, Kerry's guards will keep looking up...not just down and around.

Looking at the images of Liberace, one can see where today's politician's got their fashion cues:

http://www.google.com/search?num=10&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=625&q=liberace&oq=liberace&gs_l=img.12..0l10.1265.3177.0.6194.8.7.0.1.1.0.326.1139.1j4j1j1.7.0...0.0...1ac.1.8gJSSsQqvL4

All they need is the candelabra and keyboard.