Up for Debate: Todd steps aside

Monday, October 17, 2011 at 11:22pm

Given Rep. Curry Todd’s statement Monday to “step aside as chairman of the House State and Local Government Committee until this matter is resolved,” how well have he and the Republican leadership handled his arrest to this point? 

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100 Comments on this post:

By: dargent7 on 10/18/11 at 8:56

I did my homework, and the slimeballs in the GOP who I misspelled are:
*John Ensign -R Nevada who had the ongoing affair w/ a staffer...
*Mark Sanford, Jr.- R SC who went on his "soul mate" extravaganza. Had 5 boys left behind on "Father's Day".
*Nimrata "Nikki" Haley-R SC who had 50 calls to a male staffer after 12:00am lasting up to 3 hours each call.While her husband was out of town.
All married.
My personal favorite is William "Big Billy" Bennett who championed "family values" while accruing a $3. million gambling debt.
Obama is squeeky "Mr." clean compared to these losers.

By: dargent7 on 10/18/11 at 8:59

s/h/b "4 boys" for Sandford.
Willard "Mitt" Romney has the 5 boys, all of military age, who ALL declined to join the military for Willard's wars.

By: BenDover on 10/18/11 at 9:01

Teleprompter In-Chief Kidnapped.

http://tinyurl.com/teleprompterKidnapped

By: BenDover on 10/18/11 at 9:05

Certainly it was an attempt by his own party to side-line Obama for a few weeks so his approval ratings could start to recover.

By: Loner on 10/18/11 at 9:06

I went to the WSJ article that Serr8d cited in his 8:19 post:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576637082965745362.html

It's a load of statistical BS. The WSJ was once a credible and fair source, but ever since Rupert Murdoch bought the paper, it has gone over to the FOX News style of yellow journalism.

Here's a snippet:

Half (52%) have participated in a political movement before, virtually all (98%) say they would support civil disobedience to achieve their goals, and nearly one-third (31%) would support violence to advance their agenda.

Having protested before is not a sin, or a negative and most Americans would support the idea that civil disobedience is legit. The 31% who would support violence probably includes the agents provocateurs on the Koch Brothers' payroll...you know they are in there, infiltrating, agitating, trying to provoke unlawful acts, to discredit the movement...in all probability, those right-wing goons make up the majority of that 31% figure.

I'd like to know how members of the Tea Party, the rally goers, would respond to these same polling questions. I'd wager that the two groups are remarkably similar in their views on those three topics.

The author of that WSJ article draws several non sequitur conclusions from his own data. Hey, the guy's on Rupert's payroll?

The author compared the Vietnam War protesters and the political reaction in 1970 to the OWS protesters in 2011and the political fallout from that...that's a very shaky analogy to begin with and the editorial massaging of the data makes the argument even more dubious. It's a load of BS and GOP wishful thinking.

The WSJ has deteriorated to the level of right-wing-rag. Everything Murdoch touches turns to crap.

By: BenDover on 10/18/11 at 9:13

Loner this Dead Horse issue is the Big Lie strategy of the new City Paper editors.

They hammer the issues they want to see emphasized and they ignore the issues they want to see go away. We might as well be reading the Tennessean or the Scene anymore. There is no news in Nashville anymore... just de facto editorial... by omission and commission.

By: Loner on 10/18/11 at 9:55

Ben Dover, I went to and read that report...obviously, it was the Iranian Quds Force at work...trying to plant a bomb in the President's podium...in a typically ham-handed fashion, as is their Modus Operandi. As we have seen on display recently...idiots and A-holes...yep, gotta be Iranians.

What was McCain's chant?....wasn't it "BOMB, BOMB, BOMB - BOMB BOMB IRAN"?? Can you imagine the sh*t we'd be in if that joker were in charge?

BTW, McCain took in $774,327 from the Israel lobby, in just this last election cycle...he's been a Senator for decades, he's received millions from the Israel lobby. McCain would have attacked Iran by now...shifting US troops from occupying Iraq to invading and occupying Iran....neocon style.

As for Todd's indiscretions, I agree, let's give it a rest...they do a story on it with its own board, then pile on with this up-for-debate board devoted to the same subject...it's too much, IMO.

Maybe the up-for-debate- board should be a total free-for-all...no suggested topics...just let it rip...it'll find it's own way....as it is now, the board is an echo chamber for a similar board. Why not give Total Posting Freedom (TPF) a chance? NCP's TOS would still apply, civility would be the key to success....just a suggestion.

By: brrrrk on 10/18/11 at 9:58

Loner said

"One would think that Tod would be too embarrassed to face hi s colleagues and constituents"

That seems to be the problem with most of the GOP these days.....

By: brrrrk on 10/18/11 at 10:00

Captain Nemo said

"Subject change; Alberto Gonzales and Belmont."

Yeah anyway, what's up with that?

By: brrrrk on 10/18/11 at 10:03

Really serr8d, how much are you paid to post here?

By: BenDover on 10/18/11 at 10:03

Reminds me of the Duke Faculty's knee-jerk condemnation of the lacrosse team in the fake-rape case.

By: Loner on 10/18/11 at 10:15

Hey, Brrrk, welcome to the fray. If the constituents knew all the facts, every elected official would be too embarrassed to face them. Here's the breakdown on John McCain's financial backers:

http://maplight.org/us-congress/legislator/592-john-mccain

Notice how that Israeli money ($774,327) did not make the top ten of his contributors....McCain raised $174,172,718 in the past six year cycle...he's the top recipient, I believe.

But then again, according to a a fairly reliable source, in the 2008 race:

"He (Obama)spent $740.6 million, eclipsing the combined $646.7 million that Republican President George W. Bush and Democratic nominee John Kerry spent four years earlier....McCain spent $227.7 million; among Republicans, that was second only to Bush’s $269.4 million in 2004."

Source:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=anLDS9WWPQW8

There can be no doubt, we have the best federal government that money can buy...it's a millionaires only club. No wonder they are so elite and aloof...git a rope!

By: Loner on 10/18/11 at 10:42

The irony with McCain is that he co-sponsored the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform legislation...and he claims to be the "maverick"...nobody's man....what a complete and utter phony, the guy is Mr. moneybags....using other people's money.

Now, we have Cain...as the GOP's top contender....first McCain (Son of Cain) and now Cain....seems like they want a "Cainholio", as POTUS...that's the influence of the TP...Cain definitely needs TP for his bunghole... he's always asking, "ARE YOU THREATENING ME??"...I tell you Simple Simon is going for the Pie-man...just dial 9-9-9 and order a pie today!

FDR: "A chicken in every pot."

Cain: "A pizza in every pie-hole."

Cain's 9-9-9 plan is simply pie-in-the-sky, a half-baked idea that would rob Uncle Sam of more dough.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 10:53

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 6:57
dumba..,
How would you like to look at the dumbest person you would ever see in your lifetime? If you would, just go look in the mirror and see that smiling face.

Dungba you already have that title as dumbest.

By: Loner on 10/18/11 at 10:53

Is Perry, the former jet pilot, going to eject?

His low-flying aerial stunts have caused some problems. He scraped the top of Niggerhead Mountain on take-off and his machine sustained structural damage and a flame-out.....he's losing altitude and fuel...his wife sees visions of a burning bush...time to bail out Governor...hit the silk...don't be a fool, blow the canopy and eject!!

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 10:54

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 7:05

Let's see, we haven't been in a declared war since WWII, which was started by Franklin Roosevelt.

Once again the micro brain has his history wrong. It was the Japanese that attacked Pear Harbor and not FRD.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 10:55

By: budlight on 10/18/11 at 8:20
First 6 posts by someone claiming to be intelligent. Oh well, we all know the answer to that question.
It sure isn’t budlight being known for her intelligent thinking.

By: Loner on 10/18/11 at 10:58

I cannot help myself, Nemo's 10:54 post is a classic...I truly laughed out loud...tears welling up...this place is an effin riot. Give that post a good read...classic.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 11:05

GOP presidential hopeful Herman Cain came down hard on immigration Saturday on the campaign trail, telling crowds in Tennessee that part of his policy would be to build an electrified fence on the Mexican border that could potentially kill anyone trying to enter the country illegally.

This should help with the Hispanic vote.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 11:09

I can’t take all of the credit Loner. He does must of the work. LOL

By: Loner on 10/18/11 at 11:15

You are a comedy duo, Cap'n....slapstick though it may be. It's human nature, somehow a bitch-slapping-fest is entertaining...it brings the board from ethereal heights...down to reality.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 11:20

Loner-

Like dirt and a broom, me being the mop and yogi being dirt.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 11:39

Taking another gaze at my last post, It somehow went from a broom to a mop. It must be my computer on the fritz again. lol

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 11:51

serr8d,

Sorry to be late in commenting about your 7:31 post. I was referring to "declared" wars, not "conflicts" or disagreements.

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 11:53

Sorry, I meant declared wars and conflicts.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 11:56

The song and dance routine begins.

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 12:03

Sorry, I meant declared wars and conflicts.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 12:18

And the songs........

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 12:26

Sorry, dumba..,

Japan only bombed Pearl Harbor. They didn't declare war on us. But ol' FDR did."ask" congress to declare war on them.

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 12:30

It ain't the computer, dumba.., its the dumb user.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 1:00

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 12:30
It ain't the computer, dumba.., its the dumb user.
…………………………………………………………..
Dungba, you are the expert. Here are two of your dumb user mistakes.

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 11:53
Sorry, I meant declared wars and conflicts.
By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 12:03
Sorry, I meant declared wars and conflicts.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 1:05

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 12:26
Sorry, dumba..,
Japan only bombed Pearl Harbor. They didn't declare war on us. But ol' FDR did."ask" congress to declare war on them.

Dungba, by attacking us the Japanese most certainly did declare war. You really are stupid aren’t you.

Never mine you don’t have the brains to answer.

By: dargent7 on 10/18/11 at 1:06

But Truman made the call to drop two atomic bombs on Japan.
Did he get Congressional authority? I don't know.
He's Commander-in-Chief and can do what ever he wants.
Just like the Bush's.
Up to, and including, LYING. News flash: America doesn't run things any more.
But, the planet is getting smaller and these world leaders have to account for their actions. Worldwide.
Even the one's we elect as President in the USA. They have to answer to the world.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 1:22

It is a global village now d7, but don’t tell yogi. He thinks the world is flat and his pigpen is at the center.

By: BenDover on 10/18/11 at 1:43

Sadly all the politically expedient 'war crimes' rhetoric used to undermine an American political opponent has gotten traction in the hate-America realm of world politics. People used to know better... they used to see a consequence beyond the borders for inflamed hyperbole but now people aren't even smart enough to see how world rule is inconsistent with the liberties provided by our constitutional republic. Oh well... It'll be Texas against the rest of the world in the end, I guess.

Enjoy your beheadings... good luck with the co-equal misery... have fun with American un-exceptionalism.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 2:17

How so BenDover. What is the matter of being apart of the world instead of being the world bully?

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 2:20

Enjoy your beheadings... good luck with the co-equal misery... have fun with American un-exceptionalism.

If we go so does BenDover, are do you think you will escape.

By: Loner on 10/18/11 at 2:20

Ben, my old friend, every person is exceptional, in their own way and every nation is exceptional in its own way. "American Exceptionalism" goes beyond national pride and patriotism, it's national smugness...a national superiority complex, if you will.

People who suffer from a superiority complex often become bullies; same goes for nations. That bully BS is passe today..from grade school to international relations.

And now it's time for Kum-ba-yah:

Inspiring Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJJnu3qaquE

Lyrics:

The Lyrics

Kum Bay Yah, My Lord, Kum Bay Yah
Kum Bay Yah, My Lord, Kum Bay Yah
Kum Bay Yah, My Lord, Kum Bay Yah
Oh Lord, Kum Bay Yah

Someone's crying, Lord, Kum Bay Yah
Someone's crying, Lord, Kum Bay Yah
Someone's crying, Lord, Kum Bay Yah
Oh Lord, Kum Bay Yah

Someone's praying, Lord, Kum Bay Yah
Someone's praying, Lord, Kum Bay Yah
Someone's praying, Lord, Kum Bay Yah
Oh Lord, Kum Bay Yah

Someone's singing, Lord, Kum Bay Yah
Someone's singing, Lord, Kum Bay Yah
Someone's singing, Lord, Kum Bay Yah
Oh Lord, Kum Bay Yah

Kum Bay Yah, My Lord, Kum Bay Yah
Kum Bay Yah, My Lord, Kum Bay Yah
Kum Bay Yah, My Lord, Kum Bay Yah
Oh Lord, Kum Bay Yah

Oh Lord, Kum Bay Yah

Source:

http://www.ericgwin.com/pages/lyrics_pages/kum_bay_yah.htm

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 2:21

OK, children,

For those of you who weren't alive when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, I was. And no, dumba.., Japan had not declared war on the USA at that time. But the Japanese admiral that was operating under orders made the comment about it being a bad mistake. The next day, FDR, ASKED congress to declare war with Japan. Understand, dumba.., he didn't declare it on his own, or ORDER congress to. He asked them. And he didn't have to ask them twice.

And to bring you up on Truman, dargent7, that nuclear bombing was his decision. It was after they had developed the nuclear bomb that he thought about it. He discussed it several days with everyone he believed he could trust. But that decision was his alone.

Of course, many civilians were killed and Mr. Truman knew that would happen. He didn't want it to, but he also knew what would happen to many more of our troops that were on their way to Japan at that time. Ask any GI if they felt Truman made a dumb damned mistake.

He "talked" to Japan before it happened, telling them about it, hoping they would surrender and save many Japanese civilians lives. They ignored him. He then thought Japan would surrender when the first bomb was dropped showing them what the devastation was. He gave them 3 days. They still didn't and he dropped the second one. They then decided this man wasn't going to quit and would kill everyone in Japan if they didn't quit.So, they surrendered.

And that, children, began the history after WWII.

So now, with your beloved usurper in office, what is our future going to be? I feel sorry for you young people and especially my grandchildren. I'm glad I'm on my way out.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 2:32

So now, with your beloved usurper in office, what is our future going to be? I feel sorry for you young people and especially my grandchildren. I'm glad I'm on my way out.

Dungba you have been out of it for years, your just to stupid to know it.

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 2:35

Loner,

In my earlier years of life, England had the reputation of the sun never setting on the British Empire. And it was so. I've often wondered; before I arrived on this earth our founders got tired of being bullied and beat the hell out of the bullying Empire's soldiers to gain our freedom.

It was pretty much leave us alone and we'll leave you alone for decades. Then along came WWII. Industry grew leaps and bounds to put our GIs up front well armed.

I'm beginning to wonder now; is the sun ever setting on the USA [Empire]? We have troops stationed around the world. What are they there for?

Has the USA become the bullies of this world?

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 2:44

It was call a sneak attack, Oh Great Idiot of morons. FRD did not declare war on Japan and then attack them.

The Japanese military was asked to devise a war plan. They proposed to sweep into Burma, Malaya, the East Indies, and the Philippines, in addition to establishing a defensive perimeter in the central and southwest Pacific. They expected the U.S. to declare war but not to be willing to fight long or hard enough to win. Their greatest concern was that the U.S. Pacific Fleet, based in Pearl Harbor could foil their plans. As insurance, the Japanese navy undertook to cripple the Pacific Fleet by a surprise air attack. http://www.pearlharbor.org/history-of-pearl-harbor.asp

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 3:01

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 2:35
Loner,
In my earlier years of life, England had the reputation of the sun never setting on the British Empire. And it was so. I've often wondered; before I arrived on this earth our founders got tired of being bullied and beat the hell out of the bullying Empire's soldiers to gain our freedom.
It was pretty much leave us alone and we'll leave you alone for decades. Then along came WWII. Industry grew leaps and bounds to put our GIs up front well armed.

I suppose this is what Dungba means in "we'll leave you alone for decades"

.1850

The continuing debate whether territory gained in the Mexican War should be open to slavery is decided in the
1863 Homestead Act becomes law, allowing settlers to claim land (160 acres) after they have lived on it for five years (Jan. 1).
1876 Lt. Col. George A. Custer's regiment is wiped out by Sioux Indians under Sitting Bull at the Little Big Horn River, Mont. (June 25).

(July 2). Last major battle of the Indian Wars occurs at Wounded Knee in South Dakota
1898 Spanish-American War: USS Maine is blown up in Havana harbor (Feb. 15), prompting U.S. to declare war on Spain (April 25).
(Dec. 10); Spain gives up control of Cuba, which becomes an independent republic, and cedes Puerto Rico, Guam, and (for $20 million) the Philippines to the U.S.
1898 U.S. annexes Hawaii by an act of Congress (July 7).
1899 U.S. acquires American Samoa by treaty with Great Britain and Germany (Dec. 2).

1903 U.S. acquires Panama Canal Zone (treaty signed Nov.

1914–1918 World War I: U.S. enters World War I, declaring war on Germany (April 6, 1917) and Austria-Hungary (Dec. 7, 1917) three years after conflict began in 1914. Armistice ending World War I is signed (Nov. 11, 1918).
1916 U.S. agrees to purchase Danish West Indies (Virgin Islands) for $25 million (treaty signed Aug. 14).

By: Loner on 10/18/11 at 3:22

Yogi, you are starting to make sense. What are those soldiers, leathernecks, sailors and airmen doing out therein all those outposts, on all those ships, and in all those submarines and aircraft? How much of this is Defense and how much is Offense?

Yeah, I know, the best defense is a good offense. But this kind of conventional force is burdensome, expensive and possibly ineffective in fighting stateless terrorists...our main concern these days.

The conventional wisdom is hard to change...jobs are at stake...whole industries as well. The momentum is strong; change is hard.

Take these unmanned aerial vehicles - the "drones" - for example. They are much cheaper to build than manned aircraft and they require no life support systems. They can pull G's that humans cannot tolerate. The operators are not in danger of being killed or captured by the enemy. It's a lot cheaper and easier to train drone operators, as opposed to training pilots and aircrew...physical requirements are not so rigid etc.

These drones are quickly evolving in form and function; in the opinion of many experts, they represent a major new advancement in weaponry. Drones, (UAV's), may prove to be cheaper and better than manned aircraft in the majority of wartime situations, both tactical and strategic.

Given all that, one wonders why we are still building three new aircraft carriers designed for conventional aircraft.

Again, it could be a jobs issue, continuing to build three new aircraft carriers designed for conventional manned aircraft may not be a militarily sound idea, in my most humble of opinions....I'm no General.. I'm a general taxpayer, however.

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 3:24

duma..,

Was you alive when the sun never set on the British Empire? I was.

Was FDR in on Japan's way to create a war with the US? Hell, being a democrat, he may have been.

You post FDR did not declare war on Japan then attack them. When did he attack Japan before declaring the war? I'm sure you can read it somewhere.

Its good to see you can read. It would bed great if you could understand what you are reading.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 3:26

The plot thickens;

US presidential candidate Herman Cain has been found to be closely linked to two billionaire industrialists who have bankrolled at least two other Republican contenders and conservative grassroots initiatives across the country.

http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/10/16/herman-cain-a-koch-brothers-sock-puppet/

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 3:34

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 3:24
duma(sic)..,

Was(sic) you alive when the sun never set on the British Empire? I was.

I sure was Dungba.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
England
Wales
Scotland
Ireland, independent 1921, Republic 1938, leaves Commonwealth 1949
Northern Ireland
Isle of Man
Channel Islands (Duchy of Normandy)
Jersey
Guernsey
Alderney
Sark
Gibraltar, seized 1704, ceded by Spain 1713
Heligoland, 1807, to Germany 1890
Hanover, 1714, independent 1837, to Prussia 1866
Ionian Islands, 1809, to Greece 1864
Minorca, 1708, to Spain 1783
Malta, 1800, independent 1964, republic 1974
Cyprus, 1878, independent 1960, Turkish invasion, occupation of northern Cyprus 1974
Egypt, shares of Suez Canal purchased 1875, country occupied 1882, protectorate 1914, independent 1922, Suez Canal occupied until 1956, Canal nationalized 1956
Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, condominium 1898-1956, independent 1956
Palestine, occupied 1917, mandate 1921, independent 1948 (Israel; Palestine to Jordan & Egypt, territories occupied by Israel 1967)
Transjordan, occupied 1917, mandate 1921-1946, independent 1946 (Jordan 1949)
Iraq, occupied 1918, mandate 1921-1932, independent 1932
Kuwait, protectorate 1904, independent 1961
Bahrain, protectorate 1882, independent 1971
Muscat & Oman, Treaty 1798, independent 1971
Qatar, protectorate 1916, independent 1971
Trucial States(/Coast/Oman), protectorate 1820, independent 1971 (United Arab Emirates)
Abu Dhabi
Ajman
Dubai
Al Sharqah
Umm al Qawain
Ras al Khaimah
Fujairah
Aden, 1839, independent 1967 (South Yemen)

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 3:37

By: yogiman on 10/18/11 at 3:24

Its good to see you can read. It would bed(sic) great if you could understand what you are reading.

Dungba..
Too bad you can understand simple things.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 3:43

Dungba.. for someone who claims to be smarter then anyone on this board, you sure don’t know anything about history.

British Empire and setting sun

Hew Hebrides, 1887, Anglo-French Condominium 1906-1980, independent (Vanuatu)
Union of South Africa, 1910, Republic of South Africa, out of Commonwealth 1961-1994, rejoins Commonwealth 1994
Mosambique, former Portuguese colony, joins Commonwealth 1995
Kenya, 1887, independent 1963
Tananyika, from Germany 1917, independent 1961 (Tanzania 1964)
Zanzibar, 1890, independent 1963 (Tanzania 1964)
Uganda, 1888, independent 1962

By: Captain Nemo on 10/18/11 at 3:44

It is getting about time for the empty beer bottle to chime in.