Up for Debate: What type of transit should the Broadway-West End corridor get?

Monday, December 12, 2011 at 10:19pm

What type of transit would you rather see along the Broadway-West End corridor, bus rapid transit or a streetcar?

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90 Comments on this post:

By: BenDover on 12/13/11 at 12:01

I remember when they were called whistle blowers instead of rat traitors, loner.

By: bfra on 12/13/11 at 12:02

Since yogi doesn't know which end is up, he just keeps spurting & wondering!

By: Loner on 12/13/11 at 12:03

One does not lose their American citizenship by being adopted by a non-American...where did that canard originate?

Soetero Syndrome can cause delirium...poor Yogi....making a spectacle of himself...ranting and raving in public....where are the Mental Hygiene Police and the EMT's? I feel sorry for the poor bastard.

By: BenDover on 12/13/11 at 12:10

Barry should go down for the $5,000,000,000,000+ in additional debt he's rung up in 3 short years and his perpetuation of this unemployment and economic bliss with his ridiculous fiscal policy. Toss in a little 'smart' diplomacy there too, so Carter won't be so lonely at the bottom.

By: MusicCity615 on 12/13/11 at 12:11

Streetcars like in Portland.

By: Loner on 12/13/11 at 12:12

A whistle blower reports wrongdoing...rats, however, report to their masters about perceived vulnerabilities in someone who trusts them. Dick Cheney has a trained rat sitting at the table, a trusted member of the President's inner circle.

This leak was done for political reasons...to discredit the president...it was not done out of a sense of duty to the American public.

Whistle blowers and rats are two different commodities, Ben....we are talking about a filthy rat here. The President MUST identify and fire the leaker ASAP....this is a serious breach of national security.

By: Loner on 12/13/11 at 12:31

Mass transit problems? Unemployment problems? Auto emissions problems? Noise problems? Municipal budgetary problems?

No problem. There is a time-honored, earth-friendly (green), quiet, and cheap solution to all these municipal maladies - the Rickshaw.

I suggest hiring and training a few dozen young, athletic, hot-looking females to pull the Metro rickshaws...I have some ideas for their work uniforms too.

What do you guys think?

By: yogiman on 12/13/11 at 12:32

Nah, Loner,

Y'all are the ones so willing to put up with the s..t from usurper Barry Soetoro. I drink plenty of coffee every day to make sure I can stay awake and alert on the issue.

It's funny, here I am with only half a brain and its apparently triple the size of y'all's.

By: Loner on 12/13/11 at 12:44

Mitt and Newt will be second-guessing the president on every issue..that's to be expected...but a former Vice President should not be gathering information from informants and then going on national TV - in prime time - to reveal the purloined and privileged information to the public....in an attempt to bring down a sitting US President. That's beyond lousy.

Cheney has personally profited immensely from his war mongering...unsatisfied, he still tries to meddle in foreign policy and military matters....the guy just can't get enough blood...Count Dracula was nothing compared to Count Cheney.

By: yogiman on 12/13/11 at 12:48

Loner,

If you're as smart as you seem to think you are, how about buying Barack's 'autobiography' and try reading it. You might learn a little something.

Question: What citizenship did he gain when his Indonesian stepfather adopted him so he could go to school in Indonesia, a nation that would not allow children in their schools who were not Indonesian citizens? How did he keep his American citizenship (if he ever had it) when he was adopted into Indonesia? Why did the school papers show him to be a Muslim of the Islam faith in Indonesia? Why did he thank George Stephanopolous for correcting him about being a christian when he was thanking John McCain for not mentioning his Muslim faith?

Wake up, fella. I may be a damn fool, but you and most of the others on this site are worse damn fools than I am for accepting a usurper in office.

By: judyboodo@yahoo.com on 12/13/11 at 12:49

Maybe they could put Chaney in a cell with that other American traitor Jane Fonda.

By: yogiman on 12/13/11 at 12:54

A lesson on civics, Loner: You cannot be officially elected to an office if you aren't legally eligible for that office, even if you gain 100% of the votes cast.

You need to learn a little more about Barry Soetoro.

By: Loner on 12/13/11 at 12:58

Jane Fonda was not a traitor...the Vietnam War was totally bogus - from the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, to the fall of Saigon. We backed the wrong side.

The military industrial complex controlled both major political parties in those days...they still do....there were bogus "good reasons' and there were unspoken "real reasons" for the war...just like the Holy Wars we find ourselves caught up in today.

Jane Fonda was well-intentioned; but her publicist screwed up royally. She meant well...I never hated her for her actions during those tumultuous times. The war was unnecessary, unproductive and exceedingly expensive....like today's Holy Wars.

Some things never change.

By: Loner on 12/13/11 at 1:09

Soetero Syndrome is something like Tourette Syndrome.

Tourette Syndrome (TS) is a neurological disorder characterized by repetitive, stereotyped, involuntary movements and vocalizations called tics.

Repetitive, stereotyped vocalizations - like yelling out, "USURPER!!"...."USURPER!!"..."USURPER!!" - are symptomatic of Soetero Syndrome.

We'll just have to endure it.

By: Loner on 12/13/11 at 1:23

Headline: Chelsea Clinton makes debut as NBC correspondent

Source:http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-chelsea-clinton-nbc-debut-20111213,0,929082.story

This story makes one want to toss their cookies.

Snippet:

She went on to say that her recently deceased grandmother had been "cajoling me and challenging me to do more with my life, to lead more of a purposely public life."

"That being Chelsea Clinton had happened to me and that I had a responsibility to do something with that asset and opportunity. And telling stories through 'Making a Difference' I believe will be one way to manifest that and I hope to make her proud," she said.

Give me a break, this royal family crap is disgusting.

By: yogiman on 12/13/11 at 1:32

Loner,

There is only two types of wars: Religious and political. I say we should put the disagreeing "religious" leaders or the "political" leaders in a small room, lock the door and let them fight it out.

But I'm afraid they would rather let us do the fighting for them because they can't take a blow to the head.

Wars are apparently made to keep the world's population under control and certain people in power.

By: brrrrk on 12/13/11 at 1:57

"Man is the only animal that deals in that atrocity of atrocities, War. He is the only one that gathers his brethren about him and goes forth in cold blood and calm pulse to exterminate his kind. He is the only animal that for sordid wages will march out...and help to slaughter strangers of his own species who have done him no harm and with whom he has no quarrel. ..And in the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood off his hands and works for 'the universal brotherhood of man'--with his mouth." - Mark Twain.

By: brrrrk on 12/13/11 at 2:04

BenDover said

"Toss in a little 'smart' diplomacy there too, so Carter won't be so lonely at the bottom."

Say what you will about Carter, but he is the only modern president (at least since Nixon anyway) that hasn't used to presidency to become wealthy after leaving office. And he was also the last president that didn't treat the inauguration as a coronation. We can thank Reagan for setting that standard.

By: Loner on 12/13/11 at 2:12

Nixon and LBJ are at the bottom...at least in the 20th century, IMHO.

By: judyboodo@yahoo.com on 12/13/11 at 2:16

I disagree Loner, right or wrong there are ways to protest your governments actions without giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Having publicity photos shot of yourself on a AAA gun is helping the enemy feel justified in his actions. Which was invading his fellow countrymen in their homes. We should not have gotten involved, granted but you can blame JFK and our great war criminal LBJ for that. Blaming a publicist is not going to play. She should have had her citizenship revoked.

By: Loner on 12/13/11 at 2:22

No blame for Tricky Dick Nixon, Judy?

In your world Republican = Good. Democrat = Bad.

By: BenDover on 12/13/11 at 2:54

Dick went down for 18 1/2 minutes of blank tape about a bungled attempt to score the democrat's book of prostitutes... and the news won't even report on Gun-Walker much less get a special prosecutor appointed.

The double standard in the media between conservative vs. liberal accounts for a 40 point spread on the running favorability ratings.

If Obama really left this technology on the ground to be found when he had a chance to destroy it; then that level of incompetence (or overt treason) certainly merits investigation and at a minimum accountability by the voters.

By: Loner on 12/13/11 at 2:59

We may find out more at 7 tonight on CNN, when Cheney spills the beans about what his informant told him concerning the secret meetings. I'd like to see Cheney and his informant both arrested..... and water-boarded, of course...Cheney needs to have that shit-eating grin wiped off his puss.

By: Loner on 12/13/11 at 3:00

Nixon should have been tried as a war criminal, not a petty and incompetent thief.

By: judyboodo@yahoo.com on 12/13/11 at 3:09

LBJ sent 55,000 young men to their deaths, Nixon gets credit for the war ending on his watch. Just like Obama gets credit for Osoma. My world is based in reality Loner, all wars suck, to use your vernacular.

By: Loner on 12/13/11 at 3:13

You are deluding yourself, Judy. Nixon kept the war going as a reelection ploy, but that's just the tip of the iceberg...I lived through those years, believe me, Richard Nixon was a complete @sshole.

By: judyboodo@yahoo.com on 12/13/11 at 3:15

I lived through them too, and if LBJ was still in office, we would still be fighting. Nixon for all his faults, ended the war.

By: Ask01 on 12/13/11 at 3:25

So, just to steer back toward the issue, at this juncture, buses are probably the best option for Nashville. Local drivers already display monumental difficulty dealing with existing traffic, including the local bus system. I shudder to contemplate the result if light rail and street cars were introduced into the equation. The smash ups would provide extra color, mostly red, for local news, I suppose.

I believe we should examine, as population density increases, introducing an elevated rail system. (Perhaps we could opt for a monorail and tell the tourists it's part of Disneyland Nashville. Sorry, just couldn't resist. Although, the core idea might not be so far fetched.) An elevated system would not interfer with street traffic and when gridlock grips the city, an elevated system could still move.

Bottom line, I use and encourage others to use public transportation. For my part, my blood pressure is under control and I don't have nearly as many anxiety and panic attack as in the past, making me much easier ti live with.

Seriously, I do believe we need to get Americans back into the habit of using public transportation in the city at least as a way to reduce pollution and congestion.

By: judyboodo@yahoo.com on 12/13/11 at 3:41

Ask01, I really think you've missed the boat..'er train. Federal money for this kind of project is going to be really hard to come by in the near future. There is lot's of pressure on Congress to reel in the spending for anything not essential. I just can't see this type of project without the feds money. When you look at it from local eyes with the cost involved its really expensive. Of course if you really want more mass transit then you can move to a more polluted and congested city.

By: brrrrk on 12/13/11 at 3:52

judyboodo@yahoo.com said

"LBJ sent 55,000 young men to their deaths, Nixon gets credit for the war ending on his watch. Just like Obama gets credit for Osoma. My world is based in reality Loner, all wars suck, to use your vernacular."

And the fact that in 2005 Bush actually closed the CIA Unit responsible for hunting down Bin Laden has no relevance? Apparently reality is a bit of a moving target in your world.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.html

By: brrrrk on 12/13/11 at 4:10

Speaking of LBJ, Nixon, and Vietnam.......

Nixon's 'Treason' and Historical Gaps
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/120508.html

LBJ accused Nixon of treason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3suucO6pOc

By: Ask01 on 12/13/11 at 4:37

Judy, you may be right but honestly, can you envision this as anything other than a boobdoggle, with a seed of federal money to start, and perhaps maintain, but which will eventually fall to the city to contribute more and more funding?

Beyond that, wouldn't it be wonderful if everyone wasn't so anxious to spend money just because it is viewed as 'free' federal money, flowing as it does from the great chief in Washington?

Don't misunderstand, I would love to see Nashville evolve light rail, even street cars and a subway system, but considering the resistance of so many to public transportation, I have now problems imagining the outcome mirroring a "Simpson's" episode in which Springfield opts to build a monorail, with Homer in charge. As befits an animated comedy show, of course, mayhem ensues and the city is left with nothing.

I hope you are right and I am wrong, but I would hate to see Nashville assuming the role of Springfield in this little play. Especially since own version of Mayor Quimby will be out of office, beyond reach if the train jumps the tracks.

Let's see what plays out. Have a great Holiday, whatever your choice of beliefs.

By: PKVol on 12/13/11 at 5:00

It would be nice to know what the $136MM buys. That seems like a lot to get this started.

By: judyboodo@yahoo.com on 12/13/11 at 5:08

Amen brother.

By: BenDover on 12/13/11 at 5:11

We really need a name for people who continue to lap up whatever thin gruel the NYT is serving as long as it reinforces a right-is-wrong left-is-right world view.

By: brrrrk on 12/13/11 at 5:45

BenDover said

"We really need a name for people who continue to lap up whatever thin gruel the NYT is serving as long as it reinforces a right-is-wrong left-is-right world view."

I'm sure your barb was directed at me...... but is the article I posted wrong? Did Bush shut down that CIA Unit or didn't he? The FACT is he did......

By: BenDover on 12/13/11 at 5:50

They stream-lined the whole process brrrk but the NYT took the opportunity to use the headline to spoon up another bowl of 'Bush is an Idiot' to their single-minded readership. You do know it was water-board intel that gave us Bin Laden, right.

By: bfra on 12/13/11 at 6:02

And everybody should know, by now, what big buddies the Bushes & Bin Ladens are. Big oil cartel, you scrarch my back, I'll scrarch yours. Bush never wanted Bin Laden in the first place!

By: brrrrk on 12/13/11 at 6:12

BenDover said

"You do know it was water-board intel that gave us Bin Laden, right."

Says who? From what I hear, it's only the right that is promoting this meme.... and it's primarily those who need to defend it because they're covering their own asses.

Sorry though, torture is torture, and if we use it as a tactic it only allows the other side to justify the same tactic against our own soldiers. Are you willing to assume that responsibility? Would you have defended the Japanese that used the very same tactic? Guess it might be hard to see that from your condo downtown....

By: BenDover on 12/13/11 at 6:28

I'm sure that's what you've heard. That's been my point. You read only 'news' sources that reinforce your 'right is wrong' predispositions.

If you read some other sources you'd see through all the mosaic spin and realize that we wouldn't have been following bin Laden's courier and his brother if it hadn't been for KSM coming out with the nick-name that they then put an emphasis on identifying and tracking down.