Letter to the Editor

Tuesday, August 16, 2011 at 10:05pm

The City Paper has quoted Page Turner as saying she wasn’t called “Mayor Karl Dean’s Black Charlie’s Angel” in person. She said that through “hearsay,” she learned the phrase was used at the site of a candidates’ forum she could not attend.

"Hearsay" is not accepted in a court of law, nor should it be accepted on the street. If Ms. Turner is a diplomat, a peacemaker or a politician, she would not take gossip so seriously. The plain truth is that Ms. Turner has no record to run on, while her opponent in the District 33 run-off (Robert Duvall) has a proven track record of success and works well with his constituents as well as fellow council members.

The City Paper asked her about running a clean campaign.  How does one conduct a clean campaign when the mayor has bought and paid for her? A very expensive 8 1/2 x 11 double-sided glossy flyer was sent out to District 33 implying that Ms. Turner was responsible for the fire station in Antioch, the library, a donated park and other significant accomplishments in Antioch that have occurred in the last eight years.  That is all so untrue.

The councilman responsible for any successes in Antioch is Sam Coleman.  He has worked diligently with and for the people in his district for eight years.  As well, Robert Duvall has done the same in his previous district for four years.  Ms. Turner never appeared in the last eight years at a community meeting for this district until she attended one before the election to state she was running for council. 

Most people prefer a council person who is results oriented, hard working and respectful towards all citizens, and who knows the difference between a resolution and a bill. No one wants someone who will parrot Dean and/or be his puppet when it comes to voting to raise your taxes, spend your money on his whims (convention center) or take away your city's landmarks (fairgrounds). 

Ms. Turner appears to be an immature young woman because a mature woman would not repeat the hearsay comments; she would ignore them. And if someone called her the "b" word to her face (or within her earshot), she should have spoken to that person directly and resolved the matter at the time. To whine about it to the newspaper is immature and fits into the category of "who cares?”  Hopefully District 33 will not have to be subjected to her for four or eight years.

Sidney Ames

Antioch  37013

75 Comments on this post:

By: govskeptic on 8/17/11 at 3:42

The voters of that district, that have enough sense to keep up with affairs at all,
should know Mr. Duvall has served the district as well as anyone could being
one Council member. Mrs. Page's is a candidate wishing to serving the Mayor
and his wishes over the next 4 years versus district needs or wishes! The day
after the election discussions were already being mentioned to the Press
about the upcoming need for a property tax increase (Didn't we all know that
was coming) so to the voters who do you think will ask the Administration a
few tough questions on this issue and which will blindly vote "yes"?

By: gdiafante on 8/17/11 at 5:24

Yawn

I'll go ahead and change the subject as the LTE would likely beat paint drying head to head.

The idiot winner of the Iowa straw poll wished Elvis a happy birthday yesterday...except it was the 34th anniversary of his death...he was born in January.

Every time that woman opens her mouth stupidity flows.

By: dargent7 on 8/17/11 at 5:27

gD: Details, details. I'm sure she was told of the gaffe afterwards, and spun some crap about left wing media assassination, "like what happened to JFK".

By: gdiafante on 8/17/11 at 5:28

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/business-leaders-respond-starbucks-ceos-pledge-boycott-campaign/story?id=14315653

That's interesting...first Buffett's remarkable diatribe that the uber rich can afford to pay more, now business leaders threatening to withhold political contributions until a long term debt deal can be reached...likely some saber-rattling, but it's a start.

By: yogiman on 8/17/11 at 6:14

You never gain experience until you begin a job. How much experience did Mr. Duvall have when he first began his position? More then Mrs. Page.

Experience can be considered on any election, but for a public office, integrity, honesty and personality is a major factor.

By: JayBee56 on 8/17/11 at 6:29

Great letter. Good points. Mr. Duvall has done an admirable job. The fact that Mr. Dean has endorsed her should be a clue as to her impartiality or lack thereof.

By: Kosh III on 8/17/11 at 6:47

Congratulations on your 15 minutes of fame Syd!

It's not my district but I've met Mr Duvall and get his email newsletters. He seems to be doing a good job for the District. His opposition to Dean is a bonus.

By: macjedi on 8/17/11 at 6:57

Duvall is another relic. Time to go. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fire-Robert-Duvall-Nashville-Council-Runoff-2011/181067348628039

By: bfra on 8/17/11 at 7:02

macjedi - Think for yourself & quit kissing up to Karl!

By: dargent7 on 8/17/11 at 7:21

Tell you what. I've lived here for only 4+ years but if Karl Dean got that new Music City Convention Center pushed thru, then he's a genius.
Add in the Omni hotel, and Nashville can start playing with the Big Dogs.
That area was a blight and a black hole. Crime rampant.
With Bridgestone Arean right there, it's going to open the downtown area way up.
Unless you still prefer to use an outhouse.

By: serr8d on 8/17/11 at 7:24

I lived in Antioch, years ago. Antioch is now a blight on the city. Cane Ridge, not so much. Whoever allowed that signature mall to run down to it's current condition needs be held responsible; in the past 8 years, it's bottomed out.

Whoever is the incumbent, kick it to the curb. It's time the incumbent faced some real-world challenges, no matter what else they've done. Let it eat some nice Private Sector for awhile.

Government officials, if they don't suck going in, start to suck if they stay in Government for too long. You can take that to the bank.

By: budlight on 8/17/11 at 7:36

Serr8d, the Mall at 100 Oaks was a blight a few years ago; now it's flourishing. It takes time to rebuild.

Thank you Jaybee and Kosh.

Macjedi, I second bfra's emotion; quit kissing up to Dean. Gov is on top of things when Gov said "The day after the election discussions were already being mentioned to the Press about the upcoming need for a property tax increase (Didn't we all know that was coming) so to the voters who do you think will ask the Administration a few tough questions on this issue and which will blindly vote "yes"?

Dean IS going to raise our taxes. He can and because he can, he WILL. Mr. Duvall will not vote for tax increases. Turner will.

Yogi, Duvall had much experience before he was elected; I don't want to have to suffer while Turner gets her experience the way we have suffered while Odrama got his. Now after 3 years he looks older than any other president before him. Usually they take 8 years to age.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/17/11 at 7:41

Here is her responce d7.

Ms Bachmann did not respond and launched into her speech, but she corrected herself later as she spoke with reporters, noting the date marked Presley’s death, not his birth. He was born on January 8, 1935.

“As far as we’re concerned, he’s still alive in our hearts,” Ms Bachmann said.

By: Loner on 8/17/11 at 7:51

Page Turner? You gotta be kidding...is it time to turn the page on Page Turner?

Gppd morning, Nashville....let the games begin!

By: Loner on 8/17/11 at 7:53

Nice start...Good morning...I'm working without my reading glasses, in a dark corner of my cell....

By: Captain Nemo on 8/17/11 at 7:58

The 100 Oaks Mall was hurt when they built the Interstate next to it, with no way to get to get to it. The reason it is flourishing now is because Vanderbilt Clinic now anchors it.

Hickory Hollow Mall; one does not have the type of customers living in the area to support the type of retail, Two Cool Springs has siphon off customers from both Nashville and Murfreesboro and three the on and off ramps really suck. Plus what serr8d said.

By: bfra on 8/17/11 at 8:01

Of course, if you go to Cool Springs, try to go when it isn't going to rain or your car might be floating when you come out. The short is, I don't like malls.

By: Loner on 8/17/11 at 8:06

GD, threats from big business to withhold campaign donations sounds like a bluff....somebody else will take up the slack, if US business interests withhold their "donations"...as you say, "saber-rattling".

We should never forget that President Obama signed into law the 2-year extension of the Bush tax cuts for the rich. Eight years of riding the gravy train wasn't enough for those fat cats. The revenue foregone is in the mega-billion range; of course we are sinking into lethal debt.

And the swaggering born-again Texan, Rick Perry, would continue with more Bush-type policies.

Maybe Rick Perry will come up a big loser and act accordingly...he may ask the Texas state-house to compose secession documents...he is on a mission from God, you know. Texas may be forced to withdraw from our satanic union of states.

Good riddance!

By: Captain Nemo on 8/17/11 at 8:06

It is going to be an Air Toxic Event today.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/17/11 at 8:10

bfra-

I now go to Nashville West. The Hickory Hollow type malls are a thing of the pass now.

However Greeh Hills is nice.

By: Loner on 8/17/11 at 8:15

If Texas seceded from the USA, that could solve much our US-Mexico border problems.
The "illegals" would probably stay in the Republic of Texas, as the Texas-US borders would be well-patrolled. White Texans could deport the brown-skinned Texans with impunity...once the constraints of the US Constitution were removed. Christianity could become the official religion of the Republic of Texas...English would be the official language...sounds like a Pat Robertson wet dream.

By: bfra on 8/17/11 at 8:16

Green Hills is ok, if you like bumper to bumper traffic and paying double price at most stores. I like The Avenue in Murfreesboro or shopping at the many stores at the I-24 & Hwy 96 exit.

By: Loner on 8/17/11 at 8:16

Hey, I gotta ride..I'll check in later.

By: bfra on 8/17/11 at 8:17

Nemo - Where is Nashville West?

By: gdiafante on 8/17/11 at 8:18

"We should never forget that President Obama signed into law the 2-year extension of the Bush tax cuts for the rich."

That's why it's somewhat funny how some paint Obama's policies as the ruination of the world...whether speaking of the tax cuts or bailouts, and even in regards to expanding military involvement, he resembles Bush in many ways.

Of course, you can't tell that to the Kool-Aid drinkers...

By: Captain Nemo on 8/17/11 at 8:28

bfra-

I know the area you are talking about in Murfreesboro and I agree it is nice, but too far for me to travel.

If you take the back roads to Green Hills and avoid the traffic, it is not too bad. Lol

Nashville West is at the intersection of I-40 and Charlotte Pike. It is an out door mall, which is the wave now. I suspect it is to keep teens from gathering.

By: bfra on 8/17/11 at 9:26

Sounds like a place I would like. Thanks

Parental guidance seems to be a thing of the past, for the most part and indoor malls are being used as a drop off the kids for babysitting or entertaining. That being the reason, I was amazed that they are rebuilding Opry Mills. That was one of the worst for parents leaving the kids. I go to the bass shop and nothing else.

By: gdiafante on 8/17/11 at 9:31

Dropping off teenagers at the mall isn't babysitting, it's socializing. Has been for years. And...gasp...they do it at open air malls too.

Oh the horror...

By: budlight on 8/17/11 at 9:33

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By: Captain Nemo on 8/17/11 at 8:58
The 100 Oaks Mall was hurt when they built the Interstate next to it, with no way to get to get to it. The reason it is flourishing now is because Vanderbilt Clinic now anchors it.

Hickory Hollow Mall; one does not have the type of customers living in the area to support the type of retail, Two Cool Springs has siphon off customers from both Nashville and Murfreesboro and three the on and off ramps really suck. Plus what serr8d said.

Thank you capt for saying so politely what I could not. I did not want to sound "biased" however, you are correct when you say "type of customers living in the area to support the type of retail". One of the people in charge of the mall stated that she was trying to bring in the "type" of business to fit into the community. She admitted that she may have brought in too many of them -- ie, long baggy pants showing plumber's cracks (my words not hers), hippity hoppity tennis shoes, long baggy athletic type uniform shirts and just an assortment of stuff. It's a shame. When I go to the mall to get my eye glasses (EyeMasters) I am actually clinging to my purse for dear life.

Now that Vanderbilt has taken over 100 Oaks, the quality of the shops has gone up. I believe that can be done at any mall. However, some want to bring in a college or technical school type atmosphere. Again, how wealthy are these students? What do they eat? Wear? Buy? Not nearly what we need to turn it around.

By: budlight on 8/17/11 at 9:38

Loner on 8/17/11 at 8:51
Page Turner? You gotta be kidding...is it time to turn the page on Page Turner?

Gppd morning, Nashville....let the games begin!

You hit that nail on the proverbial head. One thing for sure, she is a puppet and Dean is her puppetier (spelled right?).

Of course, I'm trying to sell my home in Antioch now that it's gone down in value. I wanted to sell 3 years ago, but hubby is a "thinker" and he was thinking about it. He has thought us into a loss. But I love him anyway. After all, it's only money. I believe our home would be great for a family who wants a big yard (4.65 acres) for their children to play in safely; a huge dog run (about 30+ feet by 40+ feet with 6' chain link fence), equipped with it's own brick patio, big dog house w/front porch. And who wants a nice view of nature.

Oops! Didn't mean to turn C P post into for sale by owner. Ha, ha.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/17/11 at 10:06

bfra-

I go to Opry Mills for a movie once in a while. I avoid the area if I can.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/17/11 at 10:06

bud-

I don’t recall saying anything about baggy pants.

By: dargent7 on 8/17/11 at 10:52

For Bachmann, like Palin before her, to make such a goofy, "Let's all say Happy Birthday to Elvis Presley"...( guy's death, not birth), then spin her gaffe into, "he lives forever"...shows how shallow and incompetant she is.
It's like when Bush sat in the 4th grade classroom being told TWICE planes were flying into the Twin Towers....dim-wits, yet people vote for them.

By: budlight on 8/17/11 at 11:19

: Captain Nemo on 8/17/11 at 11:06
bud- I don’t recall saying anything about baggy pants.

Capt. I don't recall saying that you said anything about baggy pants. LOL

D7, some of the 6, 7 year olds who were in that room when Bush was told about the Twin Towers have stepped forward saying that they are glad he did not jump up and rush out. They are saying that his demeanor kept them from being afraid and alarmed as small children. They are actually praising him for his handling of the moment.

I agree with them. He could have looked panicked and scared the beejeebies out of them. He did not. And really, D7? What could he have actually done at that moment other than falling to his knees and praying?

And look at the current white house administration. Do you think that there are less dim wits in the white house now? NOT!

By: gdiafante on 8/17/11 at 11:27

Wow...still debating Bush's immediate reaction...why not discuss William Henry Harrison having three first names...

By: bfra on 8/17/11 at 11:35

bud - Lame excuse! Even 6-7 year olds understand when someone says, excuse me, and leaves the room.

By: gdiafante on 8/17/11 at 11:36

I'm going to take a wild guess here...I bet those who think Bush's reaction was appropriate are Bush supporters...and those who disagree are not...I know, crazy...

Personally, I don't care, I'd much rather have seen hidden camera footage of him choking on a pretzel...

By: budlight on 8/17/11 at 11:52

bfra on 8/17/11 at 12:35
bud - Lame excuse! Even 6-7 year olds understand when someone says, excuse me, and leaves the room.

bfra, I'm just telling you what a 16 year old and a 17 year old teenager said. Google "teens with Bush on 911" and read or watch video for yourself.

Seven-year-olds can’t understand what Islamic terrorism is all about. But they know when an adult’s face is telling them something is wrong — and none of the students sitting in Sandra Kay Daniels’ class at Emma E. Booker Elementary School that morning can forget the devastating change in Bush’s expression when White House chief of staff Andrew Card whispered the terrible news of the al-Qaeda attack. Lazaro Dubrocq’s heart started racing because he assumed they were all in trouble — with no less than the Commander in Chief — but he wasn’t sure why. “In a heartbeat, he leaned back and he looked flabbergasted, shocked, horrified,” recalls Dubrocq, now 17. “I was baffled. I mean, did we read something wrong? Was he mad or disappointed in us?”

[...]

Similar fears started running through Mariah Williams’ head. “I don’t remember the story we were reading — was it about pigs?” says Williams, 16. “But I’ll always remember watching his face turn red. He got really serious all of a sudden. But I was clueless. I was just 7. I’m just glad he didn’t get up and leave, because then I would have been more scared and confused.” Chantal Guerrero, 16, agrees. Even today, she’s grateful that Bush regained his composure and stayed with the students until The Pet Goat was finished. “I think the President was trying to keep us from finding out,” says Guerrero, “so we all wouldn’t freak out.”

[...]

One thing the students would like to tell Bush’s critics — like liberal filmmaker Michael Moore, whose 2004 documentary Fahrenheit 911 disparaged Bush for lingering almost 10 minutes with the students after getting word that two planes had crashed into the World Trade Center — is that they think the President did the right thing. “I think he was trying to keep everybody calm, starting with us,” says Guerrero. Dubrocq agrees: “I think he was trying to protect us.” Booker Principal Gwendolyn Tose-Rigell, who died in 2007, later insisted, “I don’t think anyone could have handled it better. What would it have served if [Bush] had jumped out of his chair and ran out of the room?”

By: budlight on 8/17/11 at 11:52

Not all of them are Bush supporters G.

By: dargent7 on 8/17/11 at 11:53

You know Bud, you had me and all of us going with your LTE. It was redundant and sophmorish, but it was published at any rate.
Then you have to screw everything up by defending Bush's face ( for 14 seconds) while being told TWICE by Andy Card (Chief of Staff) that TWO planes had hit the World Trade Center. (Mr. President, the United States is under attack). He had to back in the room and physically pick Bush UP by the arm!
And your defense is a group of 4th graders praising Bush's restraint?
Then the moron builds a case for invading Iraq!
Dumbest President in the American W.H.
Go pick me some blueberries.

By: gdiafante on 8/17/11 at 11:57

I have to say, honestly, who cares what the students thought...they are seven year olds that would hardly understand what was happening other than it was bad...and there were teachers and counselors there to deal with it.

It isn't the President's job to placate the non-existent fears of seven year olds.

By: brrrrk on 8/17/11 at 12:02

bfra said

"bud - Lame excuse! Even 6-7 year olds understand when someone says, excuse me, and leaves the room."

Exactly.... even 6 and 7 year old kids can be presented with "excuse the president....he has to leave" without there being panic. If you ask me, Bush was sitting there thinking, "Shit, I thought I could coast through this gig!!".

By: Captain Nemo on 8/17/11 at 12:08

Where are the links to this bud?

By: Captain Nemo on 8/17/11 at 12:27

Never mind bud I found it myself. I wish when people post something as a fact from another source they would give the link too.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/17/11 at 12:32

I agree bfra and brrrrk.

I was surprised with the country was under attack, that the Security Service had not rush in and hurried him to safety.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/17/11 at 12:36

brrrrk, he looked to me as if he had pissed in his pants. Not saying that I would have not reacted any different.

By: Loner on 8/17/11 at 12:48

Remember, Prescott Bush was the old block. GHW Bush was a chip off the old block. George W Bush was just a flake off the old chip.

When Junior Bush was told about 9-11, he looked every bit as vapid as he actually is. Talk about your empty suit...sheesh!

The Republicans and Democrats are big fans of royal family rule; trouble is, the quality of the product is greatly reduced with each new edition. Of course, incompetent leaders are more easily controlled; both parties want leaders who are under party control. The net result is increasingly shabby governance.

By: Loner on 8/17/11 at 12:50

Junior Bush's first thoughts after being informed about 9-11, were concerned with the safety of the Saudi royals living in the USA. Those royals were flying, when everything else was grounded....you can bet on that.

By: bfra on 8/17/11 at 1:14

brrrrk - If you ask me, Bush was sitting there thinking, "Shit, I thought I could coast through this gig!!".=================================

That is a good one! I'm still laughing and Nemo's about the pants is good also.

Speaking of laughing, where is house?

By: bfra on 8/17/11 at 1:19

I am not saying I would have acted any different, I don't know. But don't go making up every Tom, Dick & Harry excuse and expect people to swallow it.