Letter to the Editor

Tuesday, November 2, 2010 at 5:09pm

Editor,

As hunting and fishing season is before us, the left wing, liberal treehuggers will be out in force, proclaiming hunting is not what God meant when He said something about "dominion" over wildlife. I'm not sure, but I don't think the Almighty meant using rifles, scopes and night vision goggles to blow away His offspring. Hunters claim they're helping Mother Nature along in Her constant battle to keep checks and balances in Her network. Seems Darwin and his "survival of the fittest" doesn't match up to a Remington, locked and loaded. They all say, "We only kill what we eat". Or is it, "We only eat what we kill"? Hard to make the distinction. Even in NYC, the hardest of American cities, police are called to escort a mommy Mallard and her 10 ducklings across the street. Ooh's and aah's accompany the procession. 

Here in Tennessee, the duck call is sounded, and beefy men emerge from the bushes to shoot these creatures out of the sky. Last time I looked, Kroger's had a fully stocked meat section, complete with Mallard duck and foie gras. Let's not even get into Bambi and her family tree, also on the menu.

Paul D'Argent
Nashville, TN 37209

Filed under: City Voices

132 Comments on this post:

By: serr8d on 11/2/10 at 8:48

Paul, you're an idiot who couldn't survive ten days without a well-stocked freezer. Just let the power go out for several weeks; you'll be wondering why on earth you didn't learn how to hunt and fish, as you scrabble for juicy bugs, just before wondering how you'll survive when the hungry big-city cannibals come after your scrawny a$$.

Don't bother coming out to the Country. We won't feed you, give you drink or shelter, heal your broken bones or protect you from the cannibals. We.Won't.Care.For.You.Period.

By: dargent7 on 11/3/10 at 5:45

I thought "serr8d" was still incarcerated?
When'd he get out?
Better watch my backside.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/3/10 at 6:32

that's right, dargent. folks like serr8d won't care for you but they may make you squeal like a pig.....

By: Loner on 11/3/10 at 6:47

Good morning, Nashville!

Congrats, again, Dargent7...the NCP should just give you a column. I agree with the gist of your LTE. As I said before, if sportsmanship is paramount, then firearms should be banned from hunting. Let the hunters use stealth and skill instead of hi-tech hunting aids and lethal firearms. Let the sportsman use bow, sling, harpoon, machete, pocket knife or whatever. Of course, hunting is a billion-dollar industry and that's where the political power resides.

The morning-after blues are setting in....the recriminations and the autopsies.....the finger-pointing and the gloating. The nation could use a good Bromo at this time.

As I reluctantly predicted, the medical marijuana growers banded together with the law enforcement lobby to defeat Prop. 19 in California. Medical grade Cannabis goes for $80 for an eighth of an ounce there...that's $640 an ounce! Those growers do not want competition, their greed and their cash has helped to preserve the flawed status quo.

There is a lesson in all that. States should opt for full legalization with taxation, instead of opting for "medical marijuana"; once the "medical marijuana" growers get a monopoly on this lucrative trade, further reform is not likely to occur.

Welcome back, Serr8d.

By: dargent7 on 11/3/10 at 6:49

BN2: For the record, I bray like a donkey.....

By: gdiafante on 11/3/10 at 6:57

"Don't bother coming out to the Country. We won't feed you, give you drink or shelter, heal your broken bones or protect you from the cannibals. We.Won't.Care.For.You.Period."

Ah yes, more of those compassionate Christian values...

By: dargent7 on 11/3/10 at 6:58

Loner: Thanks. How's Lake Erie? I grew up on Lake Huron.
The sad thing is, with "dooley" passing, I'm all alone out here.
At least this week they're changing the LTE's for a fresh bored.
If you give me your mailing address I'll send you the CP's 10th Anniversary hard copy.
It's pretty cool.
Can you believe CA rejected Prop. 19?
Freakin' California?

By: dargent7 on 11/3/10 at 6:59

gD: Right on the money.
I am starting to wonder who they pray to and what they pray about on Sundays.

By: Loner on 11/3/10 at 7:04

Eric Cantor will be the new House Majority leader, the US House of representatives will now be controlled from occupied Jerusalem....in the past a fair amount of control came from Tel Aviv. Rep. Peter King (NYC) will head-up Homeland Security; again, this will insure full Israeli participation in the fear-mongering, law-making and war-making functions of our government.

I see young and good-looking Marco Rubio and the evil-genius Eric Cantor as top prospects for Pres - VP in 2012.

With a 60 seat sweep, many Dems will be abandoning Pres. Obama, in an effort to save their own skins in 2012. Obama's only hope for re-election lies in the hope that Sarah Palin enters the race....IMO.

By: Loner on 11/3/10 at 7:15

Darge, Lake Erie actually runs by my front door ....the water in the Erie Canal comes from Lake Erie. We have excellent fishing right in my "front yard". Lake Ontario is much closer to where I am, about ten miles North from this point....Lake Erie is about 70 miles East of my place.

Google sat maps for Spencerport, NY....I live right on that canal widewaters, just West of Spencerport....you can see how close I am to Lake Ontario. Had to scrape the windshield this fine November morning...summer is over, baby.

Hmmm...a free hard copy, you say. That's tempting, let me think it over...I don't want the trolls to know my mailing address.....Homeland Security, of course, already has that info....send it to them, they'll forward it to me....with a strange white powder on the inside.

By: Loner on 11/3/10 at 7:16

Correction: Lake Erie is about 70 miles WEST of my place...not East...need meds, now.

By: dargent7 on 11/3/10 at 7:33

ok, Loner.
But, this is a collectors edition. I have several.
We can write in code, like how Scorpio communicated with the Police before he committed a muder.
Same thing.

By: Loner on 11/3/10 at 7:39

Ser8d and Ben Dover both suffer from the same delusion: that city folk and country folk are two different sub-species or variants of Homo sapiens. They point to two different, exclusive sets of "values", specific to each group...they speak of two "cultures", rural and urban. I reject that view.

With cable TV, the internet, cell phones, Twitter, Facebook and the traditional MSM, a great homogenization of American culture is more likely the case. The "melting pot" is still hot...assimilation is the rule, not the exception. If they have electricity in the house, chances are, they are plugged into the mass culture... a culture that has penetrated every nook and cranny of the fruited plain.

By: girliegirl on 11/3/10 at 8:21

Oh gdia, it's just survival of the fittest....which is how we arrived at this point. And yes, I can point, shoot, and HIT the target. Gladly....'cause one of these days, your sweet little Kroger's isn't going to be there for ya. (hey, just sayin')

By: girliegirl on 11/3/10 at 8:25

Also, how absurd that everyone gets their panties in a wad over hunting season, but then....when your 19 year old daughter smashes her tiny car into a buck, oh...the horrors! "That mean ole nasty deer just came outta nowhere!" Well, she'll say that "if" she survives. Thing is, without the culling of the herd, more of your relatives will become injured or die when they hit the now suddenly-overly-populated-with-deer state. Just drive up to Ohio in the fall and the sides of the highways are teeming with dead deer that were victims of a car/deer entanglement.

By: Loner on 11/3/10 at 8:42

The "over-population" of the deer herds is primarily the result of loss of habitat, which tends to concentrate the populations into smaller and smaller pockets, where they appear to be too numerous. Habitat is lost with every new housing tract. Agribusiness has reduced the natural habitat available to deer populations.

Leash laws for dogs have also reduced predation; the reduction in the numbers and types of natural predator species is another factor to consider.

As a motorcyclist, I don't like to see deer in the roadways...but where else can they go? Their habitat has shrunk; and predation has been reduced...it's a tough situation for all concerned.

By: Funditto on 11/3/10 at 8:47

Does this mean I can take out all those pesky squirrels that drive my dogs insane and the owl that keeps eating my fish? I'm headed out to KMart to get my gun today.

By: AmyLiorate on 11/3/10 at 8:51

I sure do like fresh trout. What's wrong with trading an earthworm for a trout?

We put a little salt/mineral block out in the back yard last week. I hope it attracts more deer. While the purpose is just so they will hang out and we can look at them... if there was ever a time well I guess they'd be tastier than an empty plate.

Who is bringing up cannibals? Before we see roaming cannibals I think you'll see the large and small game population decimated. In the unlikely 'what if' scenario where Kroger has gone lights out, people will be over fishing and over hunting within two weeks. When famished no one will care about hunting season or bag limits, doe, fawn, etc. Finding game for protein will be extremely difficult before you know it.

Since we still haven't heard (herd?) from Nemo:
http://images31.fotki.com/v1097/photos/6/690644/2573094/DeerSunrise07200101-vi.jpg

I'm not trying to steal his place but think of it as a Get Well/ We Miss You card via this forum.

Here's a quote for today:
"Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods."
-H. L. Mencken

By: Loner on 11/3/10 at 8:54

There's not much "sport" in sitting in a tree stand, with a high-powered rifle, or 12 gauge with deer slugs, waiting for a big buck to come and sniff the buck lure you sprinkled on the ground, below your tree stand. All those items, (except the buck), are available and on sale at Walmart's Sporting Goods Dept.

And certainly there is no "sport" involved in a deer-vehicle collision.

Let's let the true sportsmen hunt year round....but no firearms, tree stands, buck lure, salt licks etc. Let the hunters get back to hunting...not slaughter-house-style harvesting.

By: Loner on 11/3/10 at 9:01

Did you consult the earthworms on that, Amy? Their opinion may differ.

By: Loner on 11/3/10 at 9:04

Recent scientific research has suggested that the Supreme Being may actually be an unearthly earthworm.....a super annelid....one that slithers through the cosmos, excreting solar systems as it moves along.....at the speed of light.

By: bfra on 11/3/10 at 9:07

From the comments of those that evidently do not hunt or fish, you really should get your information straight, before commenting. They like their meat & fish filled with plenty of artificial, whatevers, so the producers can get more "bucks for their product", pun intended!

By: AmyLiorate on 11/3/10 at 9:10

One day I may provide the earthworms with food. They won't be asking me about the matter.

By: dargent7 on 11/3/10 at 9:15

Oh, I "hunt and fish" alright.
It's called the Meat & Poultry isle at any Kroger, Harris Teeter, and Publix.

By: dargent7 on 11/3/10 at 9:19

And as Loner stated, sitting in a tree stand, dressed in camoflauge (sp?) with a Winchester/ Remmington and scope, with "deer scent" sprayed all over the ground, listening to Ted Nugent CD's, drinking Budweiser, is hardly what I'd call, "sport".

By: cookeville on 11/3/10 at 9:21

Left to their own devices, wildlife regulates itself. Left to humans, and you see what happens. When I was a kid in the 50s, there were no deer on the farm. Now, they are everywhere. As another poster said, they have been run out of their habitats, mild winters have increased numbers of deer, bear, and other animals, human growth has led to migrations(coyotes). We can't go back to the way it was, so we have to come up with solutions. Unfortunately, no one seems to have any practical solutions that help both the animals and humans. Shooting fools would kill everything in sight just for fun and the animal lovers would save them all until the animals could no longer survive in an over crowded habitat. We need laws that give hunters a chance to thin numbers and the animal rights people need to think about what keeping the animals alive at all costs is really doing.

By: Loner on 11/3/10 at 9:21

There's two sides to that meaty issue, Bfra. You are suggesting that those who do not unt or fish, prefer "meat & fish filled with plenty of artificial, whatevers",

One could make the argument that those who prefer wild game to "store-bought" meat prefer meat & fish filled with plenty of " whatevers".

Toxins, such as heavy metals have degraded the environment to the point where fish caught in the Great Lakes are not fit for human consumption....I am not making that up...those prize salmon and lake trout are not recommended for consumption by humans, according to the NYS authorities....heavy metals concentrate up the food chain.

With store-bought meat, we have the USDA inspectors out there and the FDA and the USDA all dedicated to protecting the nation's food supply. That's a modicum of protection, but better than none.

Reducing meat in the diet is one of the best ways to improve health and longevity. Humans are omnivorous...not carnivores, in spite of our obvious thirst for blood....bananas are better than beef....all the other primates seem to realize that.

By: gdiafante on 11/3/10 at 9:26

Personally, I think the human race is overpopulated. How about we thin the herd?

I'm writing Congress...

By: bfra on 11/3/10 at 9:37

Loner - With store-bought meat, we have the USDA inspectors out there and the FDA and the USDA all dedicated to protecting the nation's food supply. That's a modicum of protection, but better than none.
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Do you really depend on those "Federal clowns" to do their jobs? Now you have amazed me!

By: bfra on 11/3/10 at 9:41

g - When you contact Congress, be sure to put illegals at the top of the list for elimination.

By: Loner on 11/3/10 at 9:41

Here is a link to Canadian site that cites official sources concerning the toxicity of fish caught in the Great Lakes:

http://www.toxicnation.ca/node/244

The link between pesticides in the environment and diabetes in humans is also discussed. Seems like a reasonable site; other sources confirm it...the Great Lakes are the Not-So-Hot Lakes. Thousands of years in the making, these freshwater inland seas have been defiled by humans in a little over 200 years.

What the acid rain hasn't done, pesticides and heavy metals have done...Mother Nature is on the ropes.....The Tea party and the GOP may believe that she can still take more of a beating, in the name of progress , commerce and development...let's hope that they are right, because the drop-kicks and sucker punches are still coming from the right....Momma nature is getting woozy, still they chant, "Drill, baby, drill!"

By: gdiafante on 11/3/10 at 9:42

Bfra, haven't you heard? Deportation is at an all-time high.

I think we have bigger fish to fry...so to speak...

By: BenDover on 11/3/10 at 9:45

"It's People!"

By: bfra on 11/3/10 at 9:47

g - No I haven't heard that and see no evidence of it either.

By: Loner on 11/3/10 at 9:47

Like I said, it's a modicum of protection. Under the Bush dynasty, government meat inspectors and their programs and agencies were de-emphasized and under-funded...to get guvmint off the backs of commerce. The E coli outbreaks and Salmonella outbreaks are the result of a federal priority shift...from protecting the food supply, to invading foreign countries on the neocon's hit list. Obama continues with that tradition.

By: gdiafante on 11/3/10 at 9:49

Here you go Bfra...

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/state-and-regional/article_001a11d0-9f92-11df-acbe-001cc4c03286.html

By: Loner on 11/3/10 at 9:53

Soylent Green, Ben? I don't eat soy, because of that flick. I Googled it:

Det. Thorn: It's people. Soylent Green is made out of people. They're making our food out of people. Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle for food. You've gotta tell them. You've gotta tell them!
Hatcher: I promise, Tiger. I promise. I'll tell the exchange.
Det. Thorn: You tell everybody. Listen to me, Hatcher. You've gotta tell them! Soylent Green is people! We've gotta stop them somehow!

By: bfra on 11/3/10 at 9:54

g - I couldn't get that link, tried twice, came up Page not found.

By: gdiafante on 11/3/10 at 9:57

Try this one, bfra...

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700056194/Pending-deportation-cases-hit-all-time-high-in-Utah.html

Here is a highlight:

“For example, it reported last week that from October 2009 to the end of June 2010, the Obama administration removed more non-U.S. citizens from the country than during any similar period in the Bush administration.”

You can google it, many such articles will come up. It was widely reported.

By: bfra on 11/3/10 at 10:03

g - Did you note "pending"? Also, the shortage of judges? Two very important factors in actually deporting these illegals.

By: BenDover on 11/3/10 at 10:04

Yep, loner... Charlton Heston had some great lines:

"It's People!"

"Take your stinking paws off of me you damn dirty apes!"

"Let my people go!"

"I'll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hands!"

By: gdiafante on 11/3/10 at 10:04

See the highlighted passage, Bfra.

What does it mean? The government is actually doing it's job. Isn't that enough for you? Is anything?

By: bfra on 11/3/10 at 10:08

g - It means, more government propaganda! Look around, when did government do their job?

By: gdiafante on 11/3/10 at 10:10

That's what I thought. Some people are never satisfied. Oh well, it's your problem.

By: Loner on 11/3/10 at 10:11

Ben, I liked Heston in Ben Hur....especially when he explained to the Roman Admiral, now his captive on a raft of flotsam, as to why he was being kept alive: "....row well and live".

By: Loner on 11/3/10 at 10:19

"...when did government do their job?" Every time that government-sponsored medical research comes up with another breakthrough, government has done its job.

Every time you get a piece of mail, government has done its job.

Every time you use the Interstate highway system, government has done its job.

Every time your airliner lands safely, it is because government has done its job.

Every time a kid graduates from a public school with a diploma, government has done its job.

The complete list is a very, very long one...we need government, let's all deal with it, this is the 21st century, not the wild frontier....NRA propaganda notwithstanding.

By: bfra on 11/3/10 at 10:20

g - Pending deportation and a shortage of judges, means "a stand still"! No that is not enough.

By: yogiman on 11/3/10 at 10:27

Well, no hunters, maybe they could kill all of the deer that is causing so many accidents and put them in with the dinosaurs. That would give us more of what we need... oil. Then our gas prices could go down. We could even through in all animals that are bothering us... dogs, cats, monkeys... no, wait! they are our ancestors.

The need for wild food today isn't like it was 50 years ago. City folks just go to the store. A few might get permission to go out to someones farm and hunt. The times they are a changing, folks. Better for some, lousy for others. Which side do you sit on?

By: gdiafante on 11/3/10 at 10:30

My point stands, some people are never satisfied.

By: slacker on 11/3/10 at 10:32

I run behind my prey, screaming like a banshee, beating on a pot with a large spoon.
Eventually my prey runs off a nearby cliff, landing below with a loud thud. And then I build a fire.